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Sep 1, 2011 2:14 PM
#1
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Now surpassing the limit, Miria equals her enemies speed. |
Sep 1, 2011 3:49 PM
#3
Sep 1, 2011 4:31 PM
#4
Too weak in plot wise... Damn, I kinda feel like Claymore's too predictable now. Miria's likely going to awaken in next chap and maybe deal an instant fatal blow on Hysteria. Though I'm not sure if Miria did manage to kill her in the last page when she used her new technique :D Hysteria must DIE!!! *evil smirks* |
Sep 1, 2011 5:39 PM
#5
Listen here, Cassy, if you don't hit her we're breaking up! I love Hysteria's ara ara. |
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Sep 1, 2011 6:02 PM
#6
Miria playing with the limit, a little like Clare use to do. I'm certain she will manage not to lose control and completely awaken. Haha! That number 10 is fucking with the Dust eater's mind. Next chapter i expect the arrival of the other girls. They've be running for quite a while now. I think is about time they show up. |
Sep 1, 2011 6:11 PM
#7
well if she awakens it will be interesting, but i am thinking someone will intervene. Raki still owning while keeping the girls calm......do i small a harem of monsters hahahaha. |
Sep 1, 2011 6:17 PM
#8
Miria, still pulling all the badass stunts. |
FatherAndersonSep 1, 2011 6:57 PM
Sep 1, 2011 9:38 PM
#9
So what exactly is dust eaters move? from the explanation it just sounds like she can tango.. |
Sep 1, 2011 10:19 PM
#10
What does the number 10 do again? Interfere with youki? |
Sep 2, 2011 3:27 AM
#12
sigh- for all the hard work of those trainee warriors trying to help Reftela (?) - I can totally see Roxanne undoing them all in the next chapter- lol- and the possibility of an awakened miria- can't wait to see what her form would be like- :D |
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Sep 2, 2011 4:59 AM
#13
Sep 2, 2011 12:03 PM
#15
Sep 2, 2011 2:53 PM
#16
Wow... awakened Miria?? Raftela and those trainee's, nice scene. |
Sep 2, 2011 5:36 PM
#17
Jean_Claymore said: Too weak in plot wise... Damn, I kinda feel like Claymore's too predictable now. Miria's likely going to awaken in next chap and maybe deal an instant fatal blow on Hysteria. Though I'm not sure if Miria did manage to kill her in the last page when she used her new technique :D Hysteria must DIE!!! *evil smirks* This. And also the recent chapters feel very slow. |
Sep 2, 2011 6:12 PM
#18
at this point I don't think Miria is going to partially/fully Awaken. though we do kinda see her face looking like Luciela/Hellcat-Awakened-like face when she ddi her new speed increase, and her face now looks like its peeling off... unless those are jsut basic cuts upon her face, lol we learn finally practically in full now how the Phantom Step works: Miria does a near 80% YR Burst of Yoki. it's more that she's merely doing the "QS" but with her legs, and she's finally found the courage to try 80% or more YR, and of course she's trying it in terms of her Bursts of yoki, unlike everyone else as Miria seems to be the only one who uses Bursts of Yoki (can Miria ONLY use Bursts of Yoki, and is unable to use Yoki normally/non-Burst like everyone else? hmm). I don't think she's going to partially or full Awaken from what we see in this chapter, I think Miria will probably be able to control the Yoki/Yoma power, whereas Hysteria will be forced to use 80% or more YR, which she won't be able to handle, as she's not a HA like Miria is, at least this is my understanding of Miria's strategy... though if Hysteria Awakens... doesn't that kinda make the situation even worse... with Hysteria now being even more powerful... as an Awakened.. lol and meh.. the question is: is Hysteria only using like 10% YR and thus using 70% YR should be able to presumably easily handle Miria... or is Hysteria already using like 70% YR and thus now Miria is going to push her to or beyond 80% YR which Hysteria won't be able to handle like Miria can ?? |
HegemonKhanSep 2, 2011 6:16 PM
Sep 2, 2011 9:10 PM
#19
Somehow I have the feeling that this fight (with all 3 of them) will drag on for at least few more chapters... Most likely we will not see it's conclusion in this year. Still, Miria did pretty good - her enemy can't be so full of herself anymore. |
New profile design sucks. |
Sep 3, 2011 5:44 AM
#20
Sep 3, 2011 6:24 AM
#21
Zell182 said: What're the chances of Miria finally dying in the next chapter... Zero. |
Sep 3, 2011 3:21 PM
#22
at the end of this battle Miria will have a new technique |
Sep 4, 2011 10:45 AM
#23
I think only helen and Anastasia can match with Cassandra because helen has elastic arms and Anastasia can fly. |
Sep 6, 2011 12:21 AM
#24
err, I wasn't paying attention to who you said, but if it were especially Dietrich: "what goes up, must come down,... into the Dirty Dancing Meat Grinding of the Dust Eater", hehe Cassandra's new name for her Dust Eater: Dirty Dancing "Dirty Dancing, no wonder she's so blushingly shy, (who knew she had such a wild side!)" -HK Cassandra's Dust Eater could very well be the equivalent of the Drill Sword... Cassandra can spin her body so fast and attack that it's no different than the speed at which the sword in the Drill Sword spins at... a possibility... :D |
Sep 6, 2011 12:26 AM
#25
or Cassandra just spins out of the way of Helen's extendable Drill Sword, and slices off Helen's sword arm... just like Priscilla was about to do to Helen too.. except Priscilla simply caught-grabbed it with her hand, lol, no need to spin-dodge it, when you can just grab it, lol :D |
Sep 6, 2011 9:35 AM
#26
Lol, I already forgot that Clare even exists, I wonder when we will see her again... It's not like I miss her, my favorite character was always Miria so I'm pretty happy that she's the "main" character now. It's kinda obvious that Miria will win, I just hope nothing bad will happen to her afterwards. I was also wondering what will happen after they defeat the Organization... The rescue of Clare or something? |
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Sep 6, 2011 2:24 PM
#27
other people disagree, and they use this point for it: (paraphrasing) Hysteria appears to not be using any YR thus far, and yet poor Miria has to use or exceed 80% YR, just to finally get a cut on Hysteria. Miria was and is still f'ed... as all Hysteria has to do is YR. Miria never had a chance to begin with... ----- it's similar to Teresa vs Priscilla... it took 70% YR of Priscilla just to get a cut upon No YR Teresa... I guess... Miria can hope for the same outcome... and end up decapitating Hysteria, as Priscilla did to Teresa... |
Sep 7, 2011 3:34 PM
#28
Sep 7, 2011 8:37 PM
#29
Rank 10 Raftela's (Yoki) Abilities: 1. Senses Yoki Manipulation Ability: messes up target's depth perception with their sight (Raftela vs Miria, and maybe Raftela vs Cassandra*) 2. Mind/Brain Yoki Manipulation Ability: causes hallucinations in the target (Raftela vs Miria. Theorizingly, the Destroyer has this Ability too, causing Clare to hallucinate) -------- *maybe - ch 118 - the text seems to be saying Raftela can do this #3 Yoki Ability, but maybe she's just messing with Cassandra's Senses too, which would be #1 Yoki Ability. *3. Physical Yoki Manipulation Ability: able to slightly move/control the body and/or the attack's trajectory of the target. (Raftela vs Cassandra. This is the same Ability that Galatea uses against Dauf) |
HegemonKhanSep 7, 2011 8:42 PM
Sep 11, 2011 1:54 PM
#30
Sep 15, 2011 9:56 AM
#31
::sigh:: I need a flow-chart or something to keep track of all these new Claymores; which is why I'm glad Miria got a cross-scar because she now stand out more. Wish I could have Clare back now though. |
Sep 15, 2011 11:19 PM
#32
Source: http://mangahelpers.com/forum/showthread.php/56930-Characters-of-Claymore-Project and my notes from my computer Isley's Era: Rank 1 Isley the Silver King of Alphonse (the Northern Land) Rank 2 Rigardo the Silver-Eyed Lion King Rank 3 Dauf Rank ?? Gaheh, yes this appears to be his actual name, and not merely the expression of laughter Rank ?? (10's; probably near Rank 10) "Lido Spiderman male AB" etc... nearly all 47 of them (over 40) have been killed... Riful's Era: Rank 1 Riful "the Child Prodigy" of Luatrec (the Western Land) Luciela's Era: Rank 1 Luciela "the Squid Kitty" of Mucha (the Southern Land) and older sister of Rafaela Rank 2 Rafaela, and younger sister of Luciela. According to Rubel her power is equal to Luciela's Rosemary's Era: Rank 1 Rosemary Teresa's Era: Rank 1 Teresa of the Faint Smile, or Smiling Teresa Rank 1->2 Rosemary -> Awakened, "the Alien Queen" -> Deceased (killed by Teresa) Rank 2->3 Irene of the Quick Sword Rank 3->4 Sophia, Muscular Sophia, Noel derogatorilly calls her Gorilla Sophia Rank 4->5 Noel, Whirlwind Noel, Sophia derogatorilly calls her Monkey Noel Rank 5->6 Elda Rank 2 Priscilla, "Pissy Prissy Pretty Priscilla the Psychotic Princess of Power", she was to be Teresa's replacement, to be Rank 1, as soon as Teresa was executed. Clare's Era: Rank 1 Alicia Zemas the Black of Sutare (the Eastern Land, the Org's Land) and identical twin sister to Beth Rank 2 Beth Zemas, Alicia+Beth are known as the Black Ones, and identical twin sister to Alicia Rank 3 Galatea, God Eye Galatea Rank 4 Ophelia the Blood-Soaked Warrior, and unofficially Ophelia's own titles for herself: "Ophelia of the Ripples" or "Rippling Sword Ophelia" or "Rippling Ophelia" Rank 2->5 Rafaela the Assassin of the Organization and younger sister of Luciela. According to Rubel her power is equal to Luciela's Rank 6 Hilda -> Awakened -> Deceased (killed by Miria) Rank 17->8->6 Miria, Phantom Miria Rank 7 Eva Rank 18->8->6 Miria, Phantom Miria Rank 8 Flora, Windcutter Flora Rank 9 Jean Rank 11 Undine of the Twin Swords Rank 13 Veronica Rank 14 Cynthia Rank 15 or 19 Deneve Rank 17->8->6 Miria, Phantom Miria Rank 17 Eliza Rank 18 Lily Rank 19 or 15 Deneve Rank 20 Cuinee Rank 22 Helen Rank 24 Zeruda Rank 27 Amelia Rank 30 Wendy Rank 31 Tabatha Rank 35 Pamela Rank 36 Claudia Rank 37 Natalie Rank 39 Carla Rank 40 Yuma Rank 41 Matilda Rank 43 Juliana Rank 44 Diana Rank 47 Clare Rank 30's Katea Rank ?? (probably 40's; 45 or 46) Elena Rank ?? Raquel Rank ?? Kate Rank ?? Lucia Clarice's Era: Rank 1 Alicia Zemas the Black of Sutare (the Eastern Land, the Org's Land) and identical twin sister to Beth -> Awakened -> Deceased (killed by Priscilla) Rank 2 Beth Zemas, Alicia+Beth are known as the Black Ones, and identical twin sister to Alicia -> Awakened -> Deceased (killed by Priscilla) Rank 3 Audrey Rank 4 Miata, Blood Eyes Miata. According to Rimuto himself and Rado, Miata is a Rank 1 in power. Rank 5 Rachel Rank 6 Renee Rank 7 Anastasia, the Winged Anastasia Rank 8 Dietrich, Tracker Dietrich. She was either demoted from Rank ? to Rank 8 or from Rank 8 to Rank ??. Rank 9 Nina Rank 10 Raftela Rank 14 (Unnamed) Rank 15 Nike Rank 28 (Unnamed) Rank 31 Phina or Keira Rank 35 (Unnamed) Rank 38 Phina or Keira Rank 42 (Unnamed) Rank 47 Clarice Unknown Eras: Rank 2 Agatha, Crimson Agatha or Blood Red Agatha Rank ? "Gonahl female AB". I wonder if this is Elda from Teresa's Era, but she could be from many other Era's too. Rank ?? "Lacroa female AB" Hysteria's Era: Rank 1 Hysteria the Elegant Licht's Era: Rank 1 Licht, Three-Armed Licht Chloe's Era: Rank 1 Chloe, Heavy-Bladed Chloe Sistina's Era: Rank 1 Sistina the Divine Oracle Lutecia's Era: Rank 1 Lutecia the Universal Cassandra's Era: Rank 1 Cassandra the Dust Eater (title given by Roxanne) Rank 5 Elizabeth Rank 35->24->11->5->1 Roxanne of Love and Hate, and while Rank 35, Roxanne+Uranus were known as the Blades of Evil Rank 9 Neideen Rank 35->24->11->5->1 Roxanne of Love and Hate, and while Rank 35, Roxanne+Uranus were known as the Blades of Evil Rank 18 (Unnamed) Rank 22 (Unnamed) Rank 35->24->11->5->1 Roxanne of Love and Hate, and while Rank 35, Roxanne+Uranus were known as the Blades of Evil Rank 31 Uranus, Roxanne+Uranus were known as the Blades of Evil Rank 35->24->11->5->1 Roxanne of Love and Hate, and while Rank 35, Roxanne+Uranus were known as the Blades of Evil Roxanne's Era: Rank 1 Roxanne of Love and Hate |
HegemonKhanSep 16, 2011 12:32 AM
Sep 15, 2011 11:48 PM
#33
my guess at the chronology of Era's (there's still huge problems with this guess of mine) 100 years / 14 Eras = ~7 years per Era Teresa is the 77th Generation and 182 Warrior. I take "Generation" to mean Year and 182 to be # of Claymore to be given a rank (Trainee to Ranked, mission assigned, Claymore) 77 / 7 = 11th Era = Teresa's Era --------- Era 1: Isley's Era Era 2: Riful's Era Era 3: ~Licht's Era Era 4: ~Chloe's Era Era 5: ~Sistina's Era Era 6: ~Lutecia's Era Era 7: ~Cassandra's Era Era 8: ~Roxanne's Era Era 9: ~Luciela's Era Era 10: Rosemary's Era Era 11: Teresa's Era Era 12: ~Hysteria's Era Era 13: Clare's (Alicia's) Era Era 14: Clarice's (Alicia's) Era Era 15: "Monster-AFs and 100% Robotic Claymore Era" (Rimuto's Enraged Vow and Rimuto's Permission to Dae) ---- P.S. Roxanne to Luciela+Rafaela+Soul Link now makes some connective sense... Roxanne's Powerful Yoki Synchronization was the "forerunner" to the Soul Link's discovery. Obviously Roxanne's Era comes after Cassandra's Era, lol. I put Hysteria's where it is, because Miria says EVERYONE knows about Hysteria and Rockwell Hill. Since EVERYONE knows about it, I feel it couldn't be in the distant past, as only a few high rank Claymores know about past, and especially distant past, history. |
HegemonKhanSep 16, 2011 12:02 AM
Sep 20, 2011 8:32 AM
#35
Sep 22, 2011 7:42 PM
#36
@HegemonKhan Eh? Wasn't Katea/Kate the #32? It's stated in the datebooks. She was the one sent to Witch's Maw and got killed by Dauf if I recall. Though it's a nice statement xD |
Sep 25, 2011 4:43 PM
#37
I had thought I had seen long ago within the manga of Katea being rank 32, but I haven't been able to find it again since, maybe it might have been a different translation where I saw it, but I can't find any translation that has Katea as rank 32. All the translations I have been looking at say she's rank 30, but not rank 32. So, I don't know if it's said in the manga, and I just can't find where, or if it was never said, or if it was only a single old translation which said Katea was rank 32. Or, it is possible that within the anime they say Katea is rank 32, and I'm confusing this with the manga, but I haven't checked the anime to see on this, if it mentions she's rank 32 or whatever within the anime. If you perchance know where in the *manga* (not the databook) that it says Katea is rank 32 (if it does say so), please let me know where! --------------------------------- while it's possible that Katea was rank 30, died in the Witches Maw, and then we have Wendy as the rank 30 during the Pieta Battle, I find this very unlikely, that Katea was rank 30 and was then replaced by Wendy as the new rank 30. rank 32 is conveniently avalable, but along with also available ranks 33, 34, and 38 for the 30's. --------------------------------- Kate and Katea are two different Claymores Katea was apart of Rank 9 Jean's team that went to Zakol Mtns in Luatrec (western land), who had Awakened in the Witches Maw chapters and was smash-killed by Dauf Kate was apart of Rank 7 Eva's team in Alphonse (northern land) which found and was wiped out by Isley's 31 male AB army, which however, made the Organization aware of Isley, and responded with sending their 24 troublesome Claymores to delay Isley long enough for Alicia+Beth to complete their Soul Link Ability at 100% YR and Full Awakening of Alicia. |
HegemonKhanSep 25, 2011 5:09 PM
Sep 26, 2011 8:46 AM
#38
Jean_ClaymoreSep 27, 2011 6:06 PM
Sep 27, 2011 1:30 AM
#39
1. actually, if the manga did (old version-translation) or does (new/current-version translation) had Katea listed as specifically Rank 32, I have a possibly "inkling-memory" that it was actually elsewhere in the manga, in a very obscure location (and thus why I haven't re-found it yet, if it is there, lol), and not the location you just cited, as that's the well-known location, which in my memory has never said rank 32. If the manga mentions/mentioned that Katea is specifically rank 32, it's somewhere else, obscurely so, within the manga, some obscure chapter and page number, which I haven't been able to re-find (if it does exist). 2. It's my understanding/theory that Claymores are actually rarely immediately replaced. Instead, there's a mass-wave of replacement all at once. as you brought up, Ophelia was not replaced, instead the Org waited for the additional deaths of the 17 out of the 24 Claymores at the Pieta Battle, before they issued all the new Claymores, which I mark as the end of "Clare's Era" into the new "Clarice's Era". there's many other examples of dead/missing/rebelling Claymores not being replaced immediately either. Ophelia is not the only one. but, to be fair, there are some examples of some Claymores at least being moved/promoted to fill the empty ranks (but this still leaves an empty weaker rank not being replaced), and maybe there's some actual new Claymore replacements but I can't think of any off the top of my head at the moment, grr. 3. here's how to do the spoiler code: [spoiler.](your message or url link or image link or etc)[/spoiler.] for an example: [spoiler.]Here's how to do the spoiler code[/spoiler.] remove the dot (".") from [spoiler.] and from [/spoiler.] and here it (the example) is, when done correctly: Here's how to do the spoiler code . |
HegemonKhanSep 27, 2011 1:35 AM
Sep 27, 2011 1:38 AM
#40
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HegemonKhanSep 27, 2011 2:00 AM
Sep 27, 2011 6:38 PM
#41
1. Well I don't like to jump into conclusions that Katea was number 32 either with no solid proof she WAS within the manga's range (I know... databooks' info weren't very convincing this time). I just tried pop up other sources to make us have some knowledge and/or other possibilites she could have been placed at rank 32, nothing more (though I couldn't help it but rely on them since they where in Japanase). but yes, nowhere inside the manga where mentioned her exact position, not even in obscure pages (mind you). Anyways, we are trying to only speculate here... which it makes them worth discussing too :D 2. My point exactly ;) I believe the org members just leave there positions vacant until someone stronger takes its position; and as you've mentioned it, I guess the only exception came when Rafaela replaced Noel being promoted to number 5. 3. Thanks!! owe you one. Jeez, never thought MAL worked the same way other forums had :p |
Jean_ClaymoreSep 27, 2011 6:43 PM
Sep 12, 2012 11:10 AM
#42
Miria is once again magnificent and Raki proves to be pretty useful for once. He is going to have a lot of loli admirers after this. |
"Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Apr 27, 2013 3:28 PM
#43
Sep 3, 2017 3:36 AM
#44
Miria takes a hard way, but necessary if want to defeat Histeria!!! kekeke |
Jul 4, 2022 5:14 PM
#46
Sep 25, 3:44 PM
#47
Despite Raftela’s purpose being specifically to counter Claymores her desired to be part of the group came out as ironic, like wow how incompetent can the Organization get? The Organization should’ve used someone different, someone touched in the head like Ophelia for that role hahah. |
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