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Sep 1, 2011 12:02 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So I really wanted to know what is under the bed and it's the following,

Ringo got fooled! Big time! It's a trap! At least her figure was shown a little in the lighting and by that I mean the spoiler
which also in the dark her figure is not bad. Whether the BDs will reveal more remains to be seen but if they decide so her breast many shall see indeed. However that did not stop Ringo in her devious plans in fact she was most amazing in that. I mean she freaking drugged Shouma, the penguin and Tabuki! Most of all her true expression finally comes out in the following,

With a brilliant rape of doing what looks like a blow job, giving out a moan and being on top of Tabuki censored by the shitty fan in the spoiler
add to that the fact that Ringo had no panties at that time and that in fact we may have a uncensoring in the Bds based on this here. In thee end Tabuki still had the boxers on so WTF @ the moan? There was no penetration so is that how sensitive Ringo is to a first time? Oh my my that’s quite unique. Feeling up a male’s thing and instant moan. Interesting aspect. On top of that more delicious Ringo fan service in the spoiler
was delicious particularly that night gown, hmmmmm black right?

Ring also had killer instinct based on the following spoiler
that segment of the Western looked to me like she was thinking of killing Yuri.
  • I find the gag “Keep the chicken rolling rolling and oops too much oil splash” in the spoiler
    let me tell you ouch! The other penguin really was pissed off and that I saw. It was still very hilarious gag.

  • Ringo has a total sick mind in regards to the family in the spoiler
    that actually gave me a O_O bad feeling.

  • While I found it totally hilarious of how Shouma reacted in the gift part in the spoiler
    pretty sure he though of something crazy there. While I liked Himari boxing around and of course this portrait here spelled out doom at first towards Ringo.
About thee end, dear END you are totally fucked up but brilliantly chaotic and incredible in the spoiler
let’s see my reactions? WTF diary is taken suddenly by motorcycle person that I have high suspicions it’s Natsume then oh shit the dairy is ripped O_O but most of all holy shit at Shouma getting hit by a car. The way I see it is that Ringo was in a total deep lost depressive trance shock and was about to get hit while Shouma sacrificing himself to save her got a flag point triggered and as such a event that may lead to Ringo x Shouma. That much is clear.

The question is will Shouma survive or will there be a miracle revival? Also will Ringo fall in love with Shouma because of this and the Touma type speech eh gave her after really being stupid in interfering in that rape IMO. Regardless there may be a Ringo x Shouma coming up! I am cool with it. I prefer Ringo losing her innocence to a cool guy than a nerdy teacher TBH. Right? It was certainly another most excellent and amazing episode. I liked it! More later.

BTW Image Stitches in the spoiler
the one of Ringo looks so bad ass due to her hair style and the one where she is screwed is freaky!
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Sep 1, 2011 1:13 PM
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This episode get me to vote 5/5. Excellent.

So Ringo got trolled. lol.
Shouma went flying. That's cool. Wish him luck.
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I guess it was quite good episode!

Don't you think that anyone would be a shocked if you saw someone got killed just in front at you?
Surviving
Ringo don't know that was him that save her before when she drowning.

When the diary went broken and the Biker stole it, she become broken and don't know were she going.

Momoka?
Duh why do something for her and not for herselF?

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Sep 1, 2011 7:17 PM
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Just when I start feeling terrible for Ringo she goes and drugs Tabuki/Shou/Penguin #2 with a cake then attempts to rape while pretending to be Yuri.

Shou was just awesome this episode, someone finally told Ringo she was a crazy bitch at her face & he is a fucking hero for sacrificing himself for the same girl he called fucking crazy..I say after this, Ringo should treat him better..(if he still is alive, which i'm sure he will be.)

Anywho, only person I can think of that was on the motorcycle ripping the diary is Natsume.

Overrall, best episode yet, IMO.
Sep 1, 2011 7:30 PM
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Shou was just awesome this episode, someone finally told Ringo she was a crazy bitch at her face
I though this was like so much of Touma's speeches to her because in thee end there is a lot that Shouma does not know about Ringo.
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& he is a fucking hero for sacrificing himself for the same girl he called fucking crazy.
That is where re redeemed himself but he was still a fucking idiot for interfering in that rape. I cannot deny how much better it would have been to have Ringo get her kid but I guess I go back to Ringo x Shouma.
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Anywho, only person I can think of that was on the motorcycle ripping the diary is Natsume.
Glad I though so too.

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Sep 1, 2011 8:06 PM
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CELTY WHY

omg Shouma noooo
Sep 1, 2011 8:22 PM
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I'm repeating myself with every new ep, but yeah, this was the best, or at least, the most intense episode so far. Much better than the previous one! And the direction of the last five minutes! Fabulous!

I knew Ringo was nuts, but I never thought she'd go to such lengths as drugging Tabuki in order to fulfill 'destiny'. That's pretty demented.
But I can't really condemn, only pity her, cuz it's obvious she's far from being sane.

I found Ringo's vision of her father being taken away by another family represented as evil monsters/eels to be striking.

On a side note, I loved the little funny homage to westerns.


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LOL I actually thought that too >.<
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Maidloid said:
CELTY WHY

That's what I was thinking at first as well.
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Sep 1, 2011 8:29 PM
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Gah, can anyone tell me which fansub actually synced the second half correctly?
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Wow this recent episode really did piqued my curiosity. How could Ringo's Project M, also known as Project Maternity, could possibly have some involvement with Natsume's Project M, assuming she was the one on the motorcycle and thought Project M would be more of a sinister plan.

And Shouma nooo!
Sep 1, 2011 9:33 PM

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Dammit. Shouma just should have left that crazy bitch to get run over.
As much as I abhor Ringo, I can't help but pity her since her father ran away with another family. It's pretty saddening.
The diary was ripped in half, so how will Himari fair now?
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Gah, can anyone tell me which fansub actually synced the second half correctly?


Nutbladder released a v2 torrent.
Works fine now.

P.S.
This show is fucking awesome.
Sep 1, 2011 9:42 PM

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That was a great episode, with lots of misdirection. But let's get back to a very critical unexplained part:

Why were the stuffed animals under the bed, where was Tabuki, and what was he doing? I don't believe that he was deliberately setting up Ringo - I think that there is much more going on here.

And will another emperor penguin be needed to save Shouma?
Sep 1, 2011 9:47 PM
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Ringo...girl you is fuckin' crazy ._.
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This anime just gets more exciting by the episode! I loved when Shoma called Ringo a crazy bitch. I hope she becomes less crazy after all this.
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It's gonna be a loooooooong week now.
Maaan that was crazy. (but awesome)
Sep 1, 2011 10:09 PM

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Shouma probably saved by his football...err penguin in the accident, the penguin jumped in front of him which served as a cushion for most of the impact.
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The one who ripped the diary in half was probably his brother. That's probably what he meant by taking it by force.

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That was a great episode, with lots of misdirection. But let's get back to a very critical unexplained part:

Why were the stuffed animals under the bed,
Very interesting and gave some thoughts about it. 2 meanings:

One is that it could mean Tabuki was having sex somewhere else since chicken + eggs = birth of some kind.

The other one is that someone knows of Ringo's intention to reproduce with Tabuki and the chicken just meant you have been had. I don't see any other meaning.
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where was Tabuki, and what was he doing? I don't believe that he was deliberately setting up Ringo - I think that there is much more going on here.
Like I implied he probably had FABULOUS MAX is you know what that means. I doubt he was telling the truth to Shouma back in class.
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The one who ripped the diary in half was probably his brother. That's probably what he meant by taking it by force.
I was thinking that too and then Kanba suddenly becomes cooler for being able to ride motorbikes? Heck yeah but it could still be Nastume.

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omg i had a flash back to Durarara!! lol Celty your so epic. Anyways bout time Shouma told the Ringo she out her damn mind. Ofc, Ringo went and been a bitch and start trash talking about Himari and such man he should of slapped Ringo. But then he went and saved her? +infinity respect points to Shouma he deserves them though I hope he doesnt die. Perhaps his little deed will wake Ringo up to reality.
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If Shouma truly is dead, he should be given a certain hat, so we may ROCK OVER JAPAN TWICE AN EPISODE!!
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If Shouma's really dead, that would just suck D: I'm glad he finally told Ringo what an crazy bitch she is. I feel bad for her having a shitty life yeah, but she took it way too far this episode.

I'm glad Kanba got some screentime too. Anyway, motorcycle person has got to be Natsume. I can't see it being Kanba at all.
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Hang in there, Shouma! You said Hi to the birdies, but stay here on earth, please!

I LOVED the paper-cutout Western-style interlude....hilarious!
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That was quite an expisode. It's going to be a long week, but Shouma can't die....can he?
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Awesome episode! Especially the end.
Liked how Shouma saved Ringo although she drugged her and he told her that her heart is completely black...
Hoping for a Shouma x Ringo ep next time! And of course he will survive (I believe).

Liked the western scene, too. It was somehow stupid but still very hilarious^^
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Woah...just when I thought Ringo couldn't get any crazier...the whole drugging Tabuki thing...I...I don't know...

Looking forward to the next episode.
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Woowww this episode was something else. Its about time Shouma called Ringo a crazy b*tch!!! Cant wait to see what happens next!!!
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If Shouma truly is dead, he should be given a certain hat, so we may ROCK OVER JAPAN TWICE AN EPISODE!!


Yeah, was this the first episode where they didn't use that whole transformation scene? I missed it.

Good thing this show is 24 episodes long, even though I suspect the next few episodes will be just as, if not, more intense.
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"Out of all the women i've met before, you're the worst (you heart is pitch black)!" That's a more accurate translation of Shouma's line. It impacted her not because she was called out for her craziness, but rather her selfishness.
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Looks like we'll finally move away from Ringo a bit. I really want to see more about these other characters. Also it seems like 'fabulous max' is officially a sexual euphemism.
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Yeah, was this the first episode where they didn't use that whole transformation scene? I missed it.


No, the third (or the fourth?) episode didn't have it...

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Obviously Shouma is going to be alive somehow. This accident will be next stage for the relationship between Shouma and Ringo. I'm more curious on who stole half of the diary.
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wow, his brother say he gonna steal it by force and he really done it.


Hope this won't end up like episode 1 where both Himari & Kanba almost kiss and then they just start another story without telling us what happen to the kiss scene =(
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What a crazy bitch.
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Ow god, I love this show. It just keeps surprising me.

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Im surprised Shouma still had the energy to move after getting drugged like that and his facial expression already shown how tired he was . For once Ringo did something i cant blame her for hurray!

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Brilliant episode and my favourite one so far, I must admit I slightly saw the drugging them coming, but still seeing Shouma passed out with his face in the food accompanied by his penguin was rather amusing, despite the seriousness of the situation.

My respect for Shouma has gone from 0 (because he was a punching bag) to off the scale, first he stops Ringo from raping Tabuki whilst partially drugged, and then puts Ringo in her place, his words seemed to hit home rather well.

Ringo's words were nothing more than a simple retaliation due to the stress she herself is under both to become Momoka and seeing her dad get a new family, seemingly forgetting her, this is probably why she hit out at the idea of a family and why she attacked Shouma's views in regards to his own family, the scene where Ringo's dad was basically gaining a new family in front of Ringo was surprisingly powerful, I too have been in the situation, granted I didn't particularly care about my dad so it's different.

The one who ripped the diary is Kanba or so I believe, the only reason is that he mentioned taking it by force earlier in the episode, still with only half the diary he is sure to come back for the second half.

What I find striking is that Ringo hesitated before picking up the diary thinking of Shouma's words as if they had actually sunk in and she was starting to believe them slightly, or maybe she was actually hurt by what he said, indicating some potentially stronger feelings that she hasn't recognised, still though she looked broken when the diary was ripped.

The scene afterwards was predictable, because there is no protagonist in a show that wouldn't push a girl out of the way of moving traffic, still though the expression Ringo made when she realised that Shouma saved her was kind of upsetting, it looked kind of like the eyes of someone whose just been broken, an expression seen in many animes (even more so in hentai manga)

I think there is more significance than mere affection and shock causing her to make that expression, perhaps something to do with Momoka, she may have experienced something similar or witnessed death before (Momoka) which would obviously make her panic.

In general if Shouma survives (which i'm guessing he will) Ringo's attitude towards him may change, not only that I think once Ringo snaps out of her depression which is bound to follow she'll be less crazy than before, especially since you could take the ripping of the diary to be severing the fate that was meant to be, thus her destiny to become Momoka was halted, or torn before she had a chance to achieve it.


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just CRAZY episode!!! the ending was chaotic as hell, but brilliant!!
really can't wait for the next one!! XD
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That was fabulous max just brilliant. Words can't describe impact this ep had on me.
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RAEP!!
..almost. Tsk.
No Survival Strategy and Kanba is just getting less involved.
Still, great episode.
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Wilio said:
Gah, can anyone tell me which fansub actually synced the second half correctly?


Go to animefansftw and they have the fixed version of nutbladder's sub
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SkyHigh said:
Ringo's words were nothing more than a simple retaliation due to the stress she herself is under both to become Momoka and seeing her dad get a new family, seemingly forgetting her, this is probably why she hit out at the idea of a family and why she attacked Shouma's views in regards to his own family, the scene where Ringo's dad was basically gaining a new family in front of Ringo was surprisingly powerful, I too have been in the situation, granted I didn't particularly care about my dad so it's different.
Same here except me I don't give a fuck about the new family made and decided to stay by my father's side but I did think of one point of doing a shotgun family massacre but just thoughts really way back when all the shit started. Yet you can see that as how you should say Ringo may be especially with the anger present in the Western segment as in shooting with a gun Yuri and those 2 other ones in the spoiler
or did you forget that one?
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The scene afterwards was predictable, because there is no protagonist in a show that wouldn't push a girl out of the way of moving traffic, still though the expression Ringo made when she realised that Shouma saved her was kind of upsetting, it looked kind of like the eyes of someone whose just been broken, an expression seen in many animes (even more so in hentai manga)
I don't agree, I think her expression was something along of lines of "Oh shit he saved me? Me that is nothing worth to him?" Something like that in other words surprise beyond anything.

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+1

Such a...FABULOUS MAX-ey episode. Great storytelling, intriguing implications and overall I like the unpredictableness of the series. Ringo was wicked as ever but I love how she is kind of... logically crazy, if I would say so.

Shouma went flying, woah.
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SkyHigh said:
Ringo's words were nothing more than a simple retaliation due to the stress she herself is under both to become Momoka and seeing her dad get a new family, seemingly forgetting her, this is probably why she hit out at the idea of a family and why she attacked Shouma's views in regards to his own family, the scene where Ringo's dad was basically gaining a new family in front of Ringo was surprisingly powerful, I too have been in the situation, granted I didn't particularly care about my dad so it's different.
Same here except me I don't give a fuck about the new family made and decided to stay by my father's side but I did think of one point of doing a shotgun family massacre but just thoughts really way back when all the shit started. Yet you can see that as how you should say Ringo may be especially with the anger present in the Western segment as in shooting with a gun Yuri and those 2 other ones in the spoiler
or did you forget that one?
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The scene afterwards was predictable, because there is no protagonist in a show that wouldn't push a girl out of the way of moving traffic, still though the expression Ringo made when she realised that Shouma saved her was kind of upsetting, it looked kind of like the eyes of someone whose just been broken, an expression seen in many animes (even more so in hentai manga)
I don't agree, I think her expression was something along of lines of "Oh shit he saved me? Me that is nothing worth to him?" Something like that in other words surprise beyond anything.


First answer, I forgot.

Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret.


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Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret.
Well SHOCK was part of the factoring among the others of her surprised state and yes she was still broken at that time indeed. Guilt? I did not see it in her that way yet.

I do believe that Shouma did knock some sense into her but I think his sacrifice is what made Ringo realize them. What do you think?

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SkyHigh said:
Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret.
Well SHOCK was part of the factoring among the others of her surprised state and yes she was still broken at that time indeed. Guilt? I did not see it in her that way yet.

I do believe that Shouma did knock some sense into her but I think his sacrifice is what made Ringo realize them. What do you think?


I think I mention this slightly, in regards to knock some sense into her, by saying his words hit home and that this event will probably snap her out of her crazyness once she gets over some depression which will probably follow.

I believe Shouma's 'sacrifice' is what really drilled the message in, because before she probably was able to delude herself into thinking "this guy hates me, just trying to upset me, he's the crazy one" or how she may have reacted to his words originally, but once he proves that he doesn't hate her or at least proves that he wouldn't want harm to come to her regardless of how he feels towards her she wouldn't be able to deny his words, thus the sacrifice was necessary.

The reason I say guilt is just a theory, I believe there may be more than one reason why she is so obssessed with becoming Momoka, or why she would try to hard to become her, not just to re-unite her family, I think she may have accidently attributed towards her death or atleast she has made herself believe this, which would obviously mean that if she saw someone 'die' in front of her she would be overcome with grief, shock and guilt, of course this is just a theory.

There is sense in what your saying though and I understand what you're getting at, but I think there is something more, I mean sure someone would be surprised and shocked but those eyes looked strangely similar to the eyes I saw in a anime where someone died because of the character and they were overcome with grief/guilt, dont ask me for the anime I really cannot remember.


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Poor Shouma ;_;.

The person who grabbed the book was probably one of 3 (or 4) people.
1.Natsume-san...my most likely guess.
2.Kanba- kinda is young x-x
3.The guy in the coat.
4.The pink haired guy...this might be hard to believe but It's about time he made an appearance =)
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SkyHigh said:
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SkyHigh said:
Secondly I think you are misunderstanding what I was saying is her expression is someone who is broken, it doesn't just refer to Shouma, it could be the culmination of many events such as her anger/sadness at her father and her new family, the fact that her fate may have been torn up (in reference to the diary) and the fact that someone may have just died for her, you could say it is also guilt, I don't think it's surprise, instead it's more like shock, I mean she had just said all those things to him making him angry at her and then he saves her, of course she is going to be shocked and also upset, perhaps even feel instant guilt and regret.
Well SHOCK was part of the factoring among the others of her surprised state and yes she was still broken at that time indeed. Guilt? I did not see it in her that way yet.

I do believe that Shouma did knock some sense into her but I think his sacrifice is what made Ringo realize them. What do you think?
I think I mention this slightly, in regards to knock some sense into her, by saying his words hit home and that this event will probably snap her out of her crazyness once she gets over some depression which will probably follow.
I see, well we hope she does. We want this whole arc done soon.
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I believe Shouma's 'sacrifice' is what really drilled the message in, because before she probably was able to delude herself into thinking "this guy hates me, just trying to upset me, he's the crazy one" or how she may have reacted to his words originally, but once he proves that he doesn't hate her or at least proves that he wouldn't want harm to come to her regardless of how he feels towards her she wouldn't be able to deny his words, thus the sacrifice was necessary.
YES! I come back to reality due to her illusionary thinking being premordial in her actions. Indeed she always shut herself in in a disbelief system.
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The reason I say guilt is just a theory, I believe there may be more than one reason why she is so obssessed with becoming Momoka, or why she would try to hard to become her, not just to re-unite her family, I think she may have accidently attributed towards her death or at least she has made herself believe this, which would obviously mean that if she saw someone 'die' in front of her she would be overcome with grief, shock and guilt, of course this is just a theory.
Interesting so you theorizing that Ringo indeed saw her sister die in front her and had the same reaction of today as she had which means that a shift from Momoka towards Shouma may have a mental impact and change it? That would be good although I think that she should not forget Momoka. If she can be gone and be replaced by Shouma so much the better to dumb that shit ass teacher. TBH I love to insult him now because he screwed up Ringo's life! RAGE! Now I feel the built up! Because of that teacher and his involement he made Ringo into a crazy btich as some woudl say.

This has got to stop and this teacher out of the picture. I would have liked to have a double kill but it won't happen so I am hpong Natsume does something. Still that teacher screwed x days x life time. Making poor Ringo be so crazy of him to go under hishouse and all. *Shakes head*
SkyHigh said:
There is sense in what your saying though and I understand what you're getting at, but I think there is something more, I mean sure someone would be surprised and shocked but those eyes looked strangely similar to the eyes I saw in a anime where someone died because of the character and they were overcome with grief/guilt, don't ask me for the anime I really cannot remember.
I also get what your a saying and TBH am pleased to have started a discussion with you.

We hope that Ringo will become more normal and fuck the teacher. I am hoping for a lovely Shouma x Ringo in the future where Ringo may be an amazing ally for Shouma and his family. Having gone out of the teacher arc and learning the lessons from there. I possibly would love to have a twist where the teacher reveals that Ringo's sister was killed by him or Yuri and it's a plot! Ringo taking revenge on him and Yuri. Something like that would be fun to move up.

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