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Feb 17, 2011 10:47 PM
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Feb 17, 2011 11:17 PM
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Nice chapter, pretty wierd to have said 2 words almost the same amount of times in your life =P
BUT, i didn't like the ending, he looks like naruto when he went berserk on orochimaru/pain.. And it makes Naruto's power less awsome in my opinion... -_-
Would be awsome if Naruto stepped on-screen now and stopped him, but highly unlikely..
Feb 17, 2011 11:41 PM
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this chapter was pretty garbage its rips of yu yu hakusho and has a huge asspull with the changeing of words at the last secound
Feb 17, 2011 11:47 PM
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wow nice chapter. Clever way by repeating sorry.
Feb 17, 2011 11:54 PM
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kenichi-san said:
Would be awsome if Naruto stepped on-screen now and stopped him, but highly unlikely..
Yeah, but we all know he's too busy looking for Armadillo penises.
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Feb 18, 2011 12:08 AM
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Nomen est omen: This chapter was more than dull.............
Feb 18, 2011 12:10 AM
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Anyone else think Kishimoto doesn't give a crap about his manga anymore?

For instance: Madara recruits Kabuto to help him capture Naruto for the Kyuubi's chakra. Kabuto revived two dudes with Kyuubi chakra. Why not seal THEIR chakra in the meantime?

And why the focus on new characters instead of trying to further develop the existing ones.

And WWHAAARRRRBLLLLLL!!!1!
Feb 18, 2011 12:11 AM
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kenichi-san said:
Nice chapter, pretty wierd to have said 2 words almost the same amount of times in your life =P


lol agreed, that is one luck he got there
Feb 18, 2011 12:14 AM
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Wow what a twi..s..zZz
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Feb 18, 2011 12:28 AM

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I call foul on this chapter.
I reject your reality, and substitute my own.
Feb 18, 2011 12:38 AM

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lol what a lame way to save him and that was not even the worst part of the chapter....
Feb 18, 2011 12:39 AM

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this chapter was great! still missing naruto
Feb 18, 2011 1:58 AM

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actually I thought that this chapter was pretty interesting. Definitely the best chapters in quite a while.
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HawthorneKitty said:
kenichi-san said:
Would be awsome if Naruto stepped on-screen now and stopped him, but highly unlikely..
Yeah, but we all know he's too busy looking for Armadillo penises.


lol xD

well nice chap ^^
Feb 18, 2011 3:24 AM

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Did Kishimoto just rip off the Sora Arc from the anime?
Feb 18, 2011 4:35 AM

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Very awesome battle so far. Lets see how they stop the semi nine tails transformation.
Feb 18, 2011 4:42 AM

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angry Kinkaku xD

in this episode, you will die horribly... *laughs just as shion*
lightness vs. darkness
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Feb 18, 2011 4:54 AM

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Could have sworn that I was reading Bleach instead of Naruto just now.

Déjà vu
Feb 18, 2011 5:01 AM

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2000shadow2000 said:
this chapter was pretty garbage its rips of yu yu hakusho and has a huge asspull with the changeing of words at the last secound


As one said half-knowledge is worse than no knowledge. That flask that sucks people and those weapons are a classic legends and everyone take elements from such things. So No it wasn't some marvelous idea of the guy who wrote Yu Yu Hakusho.

Heatwave111 said:
Anyone else think Kishimoto doesn't give a crap about his manga anymore?

For instance: Madara recruits Kabuto to help him capture Naruto for the Kyuubi's chakra. Kabuto revived two dudes with Kyuubi chakra. Why not seal THEIR chakra in the meantime?

And why the focus on new characters instead of trying to further develop the existing ones.

And WWHAAARRRRBLLLLLL!!!1!


It's more like you ain't trying to use your brain hard enough. Their chakra doesn't compare do the real thing. Madara needs the full Kyuubi power. Simple as that.
And the focus on new characters is because HIS TRYING TO SHOW A WAR!!! Is that so hard to understand?

Anyway, quite an amusing chapter, the only thing i found a little too much is the fact that his second most used word was so close to his first. What are the odds of that?
I wonder if someone is gonna come and help our apologetic friend.
BTW i really want to see what is going on with those zombie Kages and Gaara. I really hope Kishi can show us an awesome battle there.
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Well there were quite a few things that happened in this chapter I didn't expect.

First off the whole switch from Dull to Sorry was definitely a surprise didn't see that coming. But then again I didn't expect Darui to be sucked in to begin with. Was that whole right arm/dull thing lost in translation? And with sorry, looking back over the chapters darui appears in he does say sorry quite a bit.

Anyways the cloud village is still the village of badass.

About the whole Kinkaku turning into a similar fox mode as Naruto. I didn't really like it it feels like it chepaens Naruto's and Killer Bee's powers. But Kinkaku's probably isn't as strong. Something I did think of though is that he can go into that super mode but doesn't have to worry about the fox affecting his mind.

And as I think some others said before and in the last chapter discussion. These weapons, and pretty much the characters of Kinkaku and Ginkaku, are lifted from the classic tale Journey to the West. It is an homage to that classic tale.

And even if they weren't it barely has any similairty to YYH to begin with. It would be like calling a bone bone fruit in One Piece a ripoff of Kimimaro.

Lastly. Kakuzu spoke! Kakuzu finally got a line! I'm so happy, I'm such a Kakuzu fangirl.
Feb 18, 2011 7:36 AM

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-Nice, interesting way for Darui to escape getting sucked into the gourd.
-O_O at the ending.

Heatwave111 said:
Anyone else think Kishimoto doesn't give a crap about his manga anymore?


Heatwave111 said:
And why the focus on new characters instead of trying to further develop the existing ones.

And WWHAAARRRRBLLLLLL!!!1!


I actually have to agree with this. I know shounen are known for their huge range of characters but it would certainly be much nicer if Kishi made each character contribute more to the story rather than adding another additional, huge cast.
Feb 18, 2011 8:37 AM

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Seriously, you people are surprised his numer 1 and number 2 words were close? You guys really think there's a certain word you use more than others by alot? :P

I don't like this fight. The two brothers and Darui bore me.
Feb 18, 2011 8:38 AM

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Better than previous chapters in my opinion. When he was getting sucked into the gourd and then got out of it, I thought that was a bit silly, but the rest of the chapter / back story easily makes up for it.
Feb 18, 2011 9:01 AM

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Kinkaku, ninja's aren't supposed to show there emotions....
Feb 18, 2011 9:54 AM

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Nothing more embarrassing than being taken out by your own weapons. Darui still has a significant problem right now though, those weapons drained a significant amount of his chakra. He can't just dump them because they have his friends inside and that remaining brother, Kinkaku is coming for his ass.

By the way, anyone wanna get Kakuzu? He seems to be wrecking shop himself over there. >:-/

Feb 18, 2011 10:53 AM

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Dauri luckily survived because of his second most using word. that was not the good way to save him but luck chances like this happen in mostly every manga. e.g: one piece. luffy survived from a certain death because of sky lightning in louge town arc, going merry come to save straw hats in the end of enies lobby arc and there are lots of examples like that. so the point is, coming up with luck chances like this doesn't mean, kishimoto doesn't care about his manga.

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First off the whole switch from Dull to Sorry was definitely a surprise didn't see that coming. But then again I didn't expect Darui to be sucked in to begin with. Was that whole right arm/dull thing lost in translation? And with sorry, looking back over the chapters darui appears in he does say sorry quite a bit.

About the whole Kinkaku turning into a similar fox mode as Naruto. I didn't really like it it feels like it chepaens Naruto's and Killer Bee's powers. But Kinkaku's probably isn't as strong. Something I did think of though is that he can go into that super mode but doesn't have to worry about the fox affecting his mind.

And as I think some others said before and in the last chapter discussion. These weapons, and pretty much the characters of Kinkaku and Ginkaku, are lifted from the classic tale Journey to the West. It is an homage to that classic tale.

And even if they weren't it barely has any similairty to YYH to begin with. It would be like calling a bone bone fruit in One Piece a ripoff of Kimimaro.

Lastly. Kakuzu spoke! Kakuzu finally got a line! I'm so happy, I'm such a Kakuzu fangirl.

This.

they should have posted a note with japanese ramanji word and explain why dauri sucked because of saying different words. the whole translation didn't make up.( i guess anime will make up for it.)
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Feb 18, 2011 12:51 PM

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Monad said:
2000shadow2000 said:
this chapter was pretty garbage its rips of yu yu hakusho and has a huge asspull with the changeing of words at the last secound


As one said half-knowledge is worse than no knowledge. That flask that sucks people and those weapons are a classic legends and everyone take elements from such things. So No it wasn't some marvelous idea of the guy who wrote Yu Yu Hakusho.
The Kinkaku brothers, Temari, the third Hokage, those villians Yu Yu Hakusho AND Dragonball were all based on the Sun Wukong's Novel Journey to the West.
Feb 18, 2011 1:26 PM

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I thought this chapter was pretty clever but I could've done without the usual cliche shonen speech.
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Monad said:
2000shadow2000 said:
this chapter was pretty garbage its rips of yu yu hakusho and has a huge asspull with the changeing of words at the last secound


As one said half-knowledge is worse than no knowledge. That flask that sucks people and those weapons are a classic legends and everyone take elements from such things. So No it wasn't some marvelous idea of the guy who wrote Yu Yu Hakusho.
The Kinkaku brothers, Temari, the third Hokage, those villians Yu Yu Hakusho AND Dragonball were all based on the Sun Wukong's Novel Journey to the West.

Yeah.

peoples just love to complain, (like what is going on in bleach topics about swastika and nazis) and someone was asking, is it sufficient to sue kishimoto in last discussion. lol.. peoples need to know difference between plagiarism and inspiration.
i think killer bee character is also someone else idea.
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Feb 18, 2011 3:12 PM

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Not awesome, but at least was very entertaining
Feb 18, 2011 5:02 PM

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I can't believe that he had enough of the Nine tail's chakra to turn into the nine tail fox. I wonder what he's going to do about it?

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Heatwave111 said:
Anyone else think Kishimoto doesn't give a crap about his manga anymore?

For instance: Madara recruits Kabuto to help him capture Naruto for the Kyuubi's chakra. Kabuto revived two dudes with Kyuubi chakra. Why not seal THEIR chakra in the meantime?

And why the focus on new characters instead of trying to further develop the existing ones.

And WWHAAARRRRBLLLLLL!!!1!


Well, kabuto probably doesn't use the brothers, because they each only have residual amounts of the chakra. Probably nothing compared the real deal. So if Naruto did indeed fight this battle, he would be much stronger. Still, he would probably lose pretty quickly as well, considering the conditions of the "game" the brothers set up.

Anyway, yeah, Darui won by luck, but luck is important to battle, too. In fact, as one of my friends has always said, it can be the most important factors in a battle. Let's just see if Darui's experience with a real jinchuuriki can help him in this battle.
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It's more like you ain't trying to use your brain hard enough. Their chakra doesn't compare do the real thing. Madara needs the full Kyuubi power. Simple as that.
And the focus on new characters is because HIS TRYING TO SHOW A WAR!!! Is that so hard to understand?

Maybe you should try using your own brain because I clearly stated "in the meantime". There's no guarantee that Madara will succeed in capturing Naruto, so it only makes sense to look at other avenues to complete the juubi. And it's not like it matters because he's planning to make do with the seven beasts already in posession.

And are you seriously trying to say okay to neglect the original cast just because of the war? Established characters, such as those in the Konoha 11 should just continue being sidelined for years and never get any development, while new guys like Darui get their own mini arc? Oh, right, because it's war. Because war automatically excuses hamfisted writing.
Feb 18, 2011 11:22 PM

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Meh
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Feb 19, 2011 12:07 AM

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That black dude is smarter than others
Feb 19, 2011 4:46 AM

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that switching of the most used word was a nice catch, guess he was just lucky, and btw i liked the story of the brothers, cant wait for the next chapter, im surprised by the sudden transformation
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Heatwave111 said:
Maybe you should try using your own brain because I clearly stated "in the meantime". There's no guarantee that Madara will succeed in capturing Naruto, so it only makes sense to look at other avenues to complete the juubi. And it's not like it matters because he's planning to make do with the seven beasts already in posession.

And are you seriously trying to say okay to neglect the original cast just because of the war? Established characters, such as those in the Konoha 11 should just continue being sidelined for years and never get any development, while new guys like Darui get their own mini arc? Oh, right, because it's war. Because war automatically excuses hamfisted writing.

Tsunade didn't believed raikage story. lets assume that is true and brothers stayed in kyubi stomach for two weeks and got that chakra, but seriously there is no comparison between that and the real thing. kyuubi is sealed within naruto and brother got a little bit chakra just because of staying there.

ok, lets assume you're right and those brother chakra can help madara "in the mean time" BUT did kabuto discussed it with madara? who he revived and who's not? i think you know that kabuto had some hidden motives and he is thinking to oppose madara later, so why would he help madara to get his jyubbi plan? he is helping in war because he had grudge against konoha and other villages. so basically he is using madara to get what he want to destroy all vilages, while madara using him.

about focusing on unknown characters. i just don't know why people are so impatient. did war is going to end after few chapters?, that's why you're worried about konoha rookies and other known characters? its just barely started and we know this is going to be a huge arc. so why kishimoto should focus only on konoha rookies? i think he will focus on them later. right now team captains are more important to show why they become captains in this war. we saw kakashi fight and we will see more his fight later, how he will go on rampage. now we are seeing darui fight. i think gaara is the next. that's how kishimoto planned fights (first captains and then other characters)
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wheres naruto
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is anyone else seeing the picture of sasuke crying in the end or is that just from the scans on mangareader...cuz im seeing a pic of sasuke crying and the last chapter was when naru and sasu were fighting...am i the only one?
Feb 20, 2011 5:33 AM

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So even Kishi himself knew something is wrong with ninja these days?


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
Feb 20, 2011 6:20 AM
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wheres naruto

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Feb 21, 2011 1:43 PM
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I expected the dude get sucked in, but he's pretty good.






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I find this arc very lame although the fighting scene's are still improving..but
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Now that was.... lucky... You gotta be kiddin... I seriously didn't believe this chapter... was so unbelievable that I just laughed out of disappointment shame and craziness.... Okay only out of craziness... It was such a bad chapter that made me crazy... Nah... just an okay chapter... wasn't really that bad since we're having new chracs introduced and they are having their own screentime and they're showing off and we're seeing what they can do... And you know it's not that bad... Doesn't really matter if it's a YYH rip off or a Journey to the West one, Naruto is back and it's at least interesting to read....

And that's great, I'm happy I've stayed here and I've read so far since this war isn't as bad as I thought it could be... Just look at this Darui... I like him... Why you ask? Well because he's just like me... and I love the fact that he saved his own ass and he actually managed to get one of the KinGin bro's... Too bad the second one got pissed and now he's behind his back...

Oh what turned me off the most on this chapter was Kinkaku's transformation into pseudo Kyuubi.... Really bad idea... Well me wonders what will happen next...

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because when you combined anD and I'll it becomes DULL...true :/
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He turned into a mini kyuubi!
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more classic tailed beast nonsense. sigh




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I know it's been a long time, but I'm still intrigued to know how Kakuzu knows Kinkaku's Kyuubi Chakra Cloak...

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