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May 14, 2011 1:21 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Shit went down at the end there. Looks like the plot is going full force now. Got a nice fight with mr blue flame, who calls himself Lunatic.

I quite enjoyed the quiet scientist guy in his screen time this week. "ARE YOU ASLEEP? HEY TIGER ARE YOU SLEEPING YET WOULDNT THIS BE A REALLY COMFY PLACE TO SLEEP?"

I think that creepy guy at the end might be Lunatic, the colors on his tie matched the flames perfectly.
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May 14, 2011 1:30 PM
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That was a really intense episode. I thought Lunatic's design looked silly from the main website but he was really creepy. When he shoots his arrows and leaps around it almost sounds like people screaming.

Kind of wondering what his idea of "Justice" is though, because in the preview it looks like he attacks the NEXT kid fighting with Ivan. Seems like he doesn't care if he's fighting NEXT or regular people.
May 14, 2011 1:45 PM
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FUCK YEAH THIS EPISODE

I don't care how many times the differant brands of justice clash thing has been done, that was such a sick way to debut Lunatic. And to top it off, there was Blue Rose being a sexy motherfucker and even better bromantic banter than usual. Before it amused me that both Blue Rose and Fire Emblem made better partners for Kotetsu than Barnaby, but seeing how Kotetsu(and others) handled him in his desperation this episode was such awesome development on both sides.
May 14, 2011 2:04 PM
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Damn, this episode was intense.
It keeps on getting better & better. I'm really glad I stuck with this show.
May 14, 2011 3:37 PM
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Poor Tiger. Everybody's so mean to him. Even Barnaby got nicer treatment in the sleeping pod. :(

Woah, get a load of that judge's hairdo!!

Paiguy said:

I think that creepy guy at the end might be Lunatic, the colors on his tie matched the flames perfectly.


Yeah, I was wondering too. I went back and forth to Lunatic's voice and his to compare them, but I'm not sure.
May 14, 2011 3:52 PM
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I would not be surprised if that guy at the end was actually Lunatic. First off, his tie colors match his flames. Second, he's a judge. Think about it. He says he has his own code of justice or something like that. And he's only killing criminals. So, as a judge, maybe he has to sometimes declare people innocent even if he knows they're not. So then what does he do? Takes up the mask of Lunatic and makes sure they get what they deserve.
May 14, 2011 4:39 PM
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I thought Lunatic being the judge was as good as established before we even knew much about Lunatic. The end of episode five(after credits) had him exiting as he dropped a newspaper that spontaneously combusted blue. Lunatic was in the OP with his blue flames before he even made an appearance in-show.
If that's not good enough for you, the third DVD/BD cover now features Barnaby, Barnaby in powersuit, the judge and Lunatic.
May 14, 2011 4:48 PM
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Excellent episode, especially the second half. It was interesting to watch the heroes try to save lives while Barnaby was dealing with a grudgematch. Also, apparently those flames are really hot, since they can melt those wires that Saito is so proud of.

The judge being Lunatic is fairly obvious, but at least it's being ambiguous enough in-show to not come off as clark kenting.
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May 14, 2011 5:33 PM
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Torisunanohokori said:
The judge being Lunatic is fairly obvious, but at least it's being ambiguous enough in-show to not come off as clark kenting.
Yeah, it obvious to the viewers but it's understandable that the characters don't see it automatically. There's probably plenty of people they meet on a daily basis that some random judge wouldn't give off warning bells immediately.

Anyway, I liked this episode and I'm continually surprised by how much I enjoy this show.

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May 14, 2011 10:25 PM

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Lunatic's sense of justice is to kill criminals so he's the NEXT Kira XDD I guess he has nothing to do with Ouroboros after all.

Is that Origami Cyclone in the preview? OH yeah! I've been waiting for his own ep XDD

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May 14, 2011 11:38 PM
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DenjaX said:
I guess he has nothing to do with Ouroboros after all.


That's going on the assumption that Ouroboros is a regular crime syndicate. I don't think so, that'd be boring... thusly I predict:

Ouroboros's purpose is to kill criminals ; however, they can't just let unsteady members leak information, so they (Lunatic) kills them. This would also make it 'interesting' in that Bunny's parents would be criminals or Ouroboros members.
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akovaski said:
DenjaX said:
I guess he has nothing to do with Ouroboros after all.
That's going on the assumption that Ouroboros is a regular crime syndicate. I don't think so, that'd be boring... thusly I predict:

Ouroboros's purpose is to kill criminals ; however, they can't just let unsteady members leak information, so they (Lunatic) kills them. This would also make it 'interesting' in that Bunny's parents would be criminals or Ouroboros members.
^wow, that would be an interesting plot twist if you ask me. Lunatic could be a leader or an executive in Ouroboros.Its still too early for the boss to appear so I'll assume he's the right hand or something XDD And when Bunny finds out the truth, he would go emo and may become an enemy hero XDD

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May 15, 2011 12:34 AM

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so Lunatic is that judge at the end. interesting with a judge giving out his own judgements of justice. this was a really good episode and this is really getting good. Fire Emblem and Blue Rose are better partners for Tiger. Tiger really is a good guy though stlil trying to help everyone even if they are kinda mean to him. Bunny maybe will be nicer soon. still want to see more Rock Bison, and Sky High they are real bros.
May 15, 2011 12:57 AM

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I thought Lunatic being the judge was as good as established before we even knew much about Lunatic.


my thoughts exactly??? i'm actually surprised there's actually people having /doubts/ about it when it's so obvious.

that aside, lunatic reminded me of anima from ffx lmao. THAT UGLY FISH FACE UGHHHSDFUYR. also, scientist dude is quickly becoming one of my favourites. /quietly looks up his seiyuu....
May 15, 2011 1:57 AM
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I'm guessing Lunatic is some bastard who thinks he's right (actually that's pretty obvious), who thinks completely silencing the criminal is best.
Instead of trying to change them.

I'm also guessing that the pony tail guy is Lunatic.
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I'm raising my score of this series up to 10. Yeah, it's that good, although i didn't expect much from it in the beginning.
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May 15, 2011 3:26 AM

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I totally forgot about this episode when I so Ivan in the preview. I need ep 8 naw D: !!
May 15, 2011 11:32 AM

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At least they are fooling around this time. Lunatic is an interesting character to have in this show and they better not turn him into a good guy or crappy final boss character.


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May 15, 2011 12:33 PM

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Loved how Kotetsu had to finish off Blue Rose's catch phrase when they partnered. She was so tsuntsun when she booted him off the stage. I wonder if they'll show a dere side to her?

On the action front, it looks like things get more serious from now on. Interesting that for the first time all the heroes disregarded points and were trying their hardest just to save lives. I wonder if this sets up a collision with the corporate mission statement for hero tv?
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May 15, 2011 1:17 PM
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Tiger + Blue Rose was adorable.
May 15, 2011 4:16 PM
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Too bad the second part of the episode was so-so due to an average battle direction, the first part was really good. Still, this Lunatic NEXT is an interesting addition, very Kira-ish at that (well, he's a judge, so...).

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May 15, 2011 4:23 PM

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Hell of an awesome episode. Lunatic was cool, I hope he turns out to be a great villain...
May 15, 2011 6:17 PM

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Tiger + Blue Rose was adorable.

I second that. They are always great together.

WOW this episode blew me away. They introduce a villain that is seriously amazing and an excellent antagonist, however I get the feeling that he is not the end, I'm betting Lunatic is going to be defeated by episode 12-13 when someone even worse shows up that will be the real bad guy for the rest of the series. But that's just my theory, Lunatic just doesn't seem like a long term villain to me.

The character development was good too, Bunny is significantly better in my eyes. My favourites (in order) are now:
Tiger, Blue Rose, Bunny, and Cyclone (XD)
May 16, 2011 3:44 AM
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Hell yeah, Blue Rose. Sure, there's a huge age difference but I can't help but ship Tiger/Blue Rose.

I wonder what happened to Tiger's wife. I'm guessing she was probably killed or sth, but it's also possible that she left him.

Urgh, the moment the Director messaged the Justice Bureau asking for permission, warning bells started going off in my head. Figures that was the way Lunatic learnt about the hideout.

akovaski said:
DenjaX said:
I guess he has nothing to do with Ouroboros after all.


That's going on the assumption that Ouroboros is a regular crime syndicate. I don't think so, that'd be boring... thusly I predict:

Ouroboros's purpose is to kill criminals ; however, they can't just let unsteady members leak information, so they (Lunatic) kills them. This would also make it 'interesting' in that Bunny's parents would be criminals or Ouroboros members.
It'd really be interesting if they went with that route.

However, it could just be that Lunatic has nothing to do with Ouroboros and is just wrapped up in his own brand of "justice" or whatever.
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May 16, 2011 4:22 AM
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Blue Rose has effectively won my heart. I mean, I was crushing her hard this whole time, but this episode sealed the deal.
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Blue Rose has effectively won my heart. I mean, I was crushing her hard this whole time, but this episode sealed the deal.


Same here, I liked her before this episode, but in this one she showed more personality than before. I guess that's why she's always one of the three people on the covers/posters. Tsundere rocks, best trope ever invented.

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Hell yeah, Blue Rose. Sure, there's a huge age difference but I can't help but ship Tiger/Blue Rose.

I wonder what happened to Tiger's wife. I'm guessing she was probably killed or sth, but it's also possible that she left him.

Urgh, the moment the Director messaged the Justice Bureau asking for permission, warning bells started going off in my head. Figures that was the way Lunatic learnt about the hideout.

However, it could just be that Lunatic has nothing to do with Ouroboros and is just wrapped up in his own brand of "justice" or whatever.


Lunatic is the one thing that is leaving me perplexed, and that is a good thing. I don't want all the Ouroboros stuff to get resolved. Drag it out, make us wait, maybe take us one massive side trips that end up completely sidetracking us. And most importantly make it so we have a SECOND SEASON!!! (and that season will cover Ouroboros... or just get closer *wicked grin*)

I never ask for a second season this early in the show, but Tiger and Bunny is different, I could watch and rewatch this series, never growing tired of it. So if it got 50+ episodes in all I would be set for life.

Now, back to Lunatic, who else had this O_O plastered on their faces when he appeared and started doing stuff?
May 16, 2011 8:33 AM
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50eps? I personally think 12 would be enough, 25 is already stretching it.With the judge probably not being part of Ourowhatever (or at least not the boss) I can see where this'll go. He is the first big bad, let's see how much cliché they'll use when tackling the "kill vs. arrest" theme. I hope they don't go over board, it's really good right now. :D
May 16, 2011 8:43 AM

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Now this is interesting ,the plot thickens with the villain Lunatic(the judge) with secret motive !!

May 16, 2011 9:35 AM

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May 16, 2011 10:31 AM

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Blue Rose and Tiger tandem was good.

Blue Rose: ....... cold.
Tiger: ...... on hold. xD

And the chase scene was intense!!

Lunatic seems an interesting character and so with his cool powers.

Looking forward for more!!
May 16, 2011 11:41 AM

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Kiru_im_Ufo said:
50eps? I personally think 12 would be enough, 25 is already stretching it.With the judge probably not being part of Ourowhatever (or at least not the boss) I can see where this'll go. He is the first big bad, let's see how much cliché they'll use when tackling the "kill vs. arrest" theme. I hope they don't go over board, it's really good right now. :D


Yeah, we'll have to see. I re-watched the first five episodes again. Despite the cleaver writing and fantastic animation, there are still some significant flaws, but that episode 7 really sold me. I'd like to see where they go, if they end it one season... well ok... but I hope there will be more, because if done right this story could go a long distance. K-ON! got 36 episodes and that was freaking amazing.
P.S. (NOT asking for Bleach length though... love that show but wow it is running way too long.)
P.P.S. (Cliché isn't a bad thing, necessarily.)
May 16, 2011 2:22 PM

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Judge is fab xD
May 17, 2011 2:42 AM

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Finally some Major villains and little bit more plot advancement seems like this anime got more interesting. I like the battle scene with Bunny and Lunatic was well animated and highly action packed so far in the series.
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Once again, I'm rather disappointed with Tiger's personality. It's odd for me that for someone who's more experienced than his partner didn't really prove that he is. Esp in terms of attitude. Kinda expect him to be more of a father/brother figure to Bunny to the point Bunny secretly starts to admire him as a hero. Nonetheless, Tiger is still my fave superhero :3

Alright, as for Lunatic, i hope he's an acceptable villain. but now i'm thinking that he probably killed those bad guys cos he got sick of dealing with them in court lol.
May 17, 2011 10:27 PM

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I find that this series being up to this episode makes me feel like a kid from the 1990s! It is brilliant in super heroes and marketing with brands such as Pepsi, Softbanks and Bandai sponsoring the series, I have no doubt it will the EPIC super heroes show of this season. I like everyone except Fire Emblem’s tendencies of gay stuff. I don't have anything against it but it is just annoying sometimes even though it is funny at times. My favorite is Dragon Kid! She is cool and I like her appearance much more than Blue Rose. Tiger and Barnaby are pretty cool so far but the King of Heroes is like the Rocketeer.

This episode makes not mistake in being glorious in its fight of Barnaby VS Lunatic. I think it was great! Loved all the jumping and slamming! I also had a few tears here and there of Nostalgia due to the OST more than the scenes themselves.

About Lunatic, lunatic is pretty nuts himself as follows,

his powers are insane in the membrane! I mean one sudden non seen shot and the Church is engulfed then sudden freaking arrow rain and the whole Church is engulfed! Holy shit only Fire Emblem might do that and the engulfing is rather crazy IMO since it's really fast. Lunatic's flying is not steady like the King of Heroes but his face is like his name implies “Lunatic!” According to the flying pattern in the spoiler
he uses his hands' powers to propel himself thus why it is not steady. It acts more like a rocket boost when he needs to. Loved seeing Barnaby and Lunatic in parallel while right next to a building. Wonderful Good Luck kick towards Lunatic, which unfortunately dodged it. I find it pretty wild of Tiger having guts to stare at Lunatic's face since it is creepy. In the end Lunatic escapes and his justice is to kill criminals.

That's no surprise since I am 100% that the following,

is him exactly! In fact him being a judge makes sense of wanting to do such a justice while always seeing some criminals coming back because after they got out of prison they commit the same crime again.

About preview, looks like next episode Tiger visits a school and I seriously wonder what is it going to be with seeing 2 of him at one point. Looks like Lunatic is back at firing his arrows, almost killing someone again. Strangely those 2 people fight and among it all a sandstorm? Maybe one of them is a NEXT with powers of Sandman. I love the title of the next episode being There is always a next time. Great series! Super Heroes like in the 1980s/1990s.

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May 18, 2011 6:05 AM

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Blue Rose is just pure sex lol
and that Lunatic is awesome, his blue flames can be his boosters to fly
May 19, 2011 2:28 AM
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LOL Tiger+Blue Rose scenes were so lmfao i laughed so hard.
And LOL at the scenes in the capsules lmfao...every1 so mean with Tiger [grrr grrr ]
Nice plot development.Oh and now we already know who Lunatic is .I think it's Petrov Yuri,the guy after the ending credits [ their voices match ] Ivan is appearing next episode,can't wait !
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/rant

Oh my fuckin god..it's obvious that judge is lunatic..but what a surprise tiger & bunny don't remember his features.

Also i can't take this guy seriously calling himself "lunatic" surely he is clever enough to know people will not take his "way of justice" seriously if he calls himself lunatic.. typical generic bad guy..bollocks!

/end rant
May 19, 2011 9:54 AM
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Oh my fuckin god..it's obvious that judge is lunatic..but what a surprise tiger & bunny don't remember his features.

Also i can't take this guy seriously calling himself "lunatic" surely he is clever enough to know people will not take his "way of justice" seriously if he calls himself lunatic.. typical generic bad guy..bollocks!

/end rant


Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious the judge is Lunatic, in episode 2 he showed up with the blue flames (and he was at the banquet in episode 1).

I don't think he actually cares whether people take him seriously or not. And generic? Well generic is good sometimes. The fact that he is a judge already makes him a little less generic though.
May 19, 2011 1:05 PM
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From what it looks like Lunatic wants to crate a society were the NEXT rule.
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From what it looks like Lunatic wants to crate a society were the NEXT rule.

Like Magneto? That would be interesting, but he hasn't been throwing around any jargon about NEXT being anything resembling a superior race or those who should rule. Quite the opposite, he seems to believe that NEXT should be public service who rid the world of evil for the sake of normal people. Now what is behind those views and how sincere they are? That is all supposition until we find out more about him.

Making the NEXT rule might be something another villain (probably group of villains) would push for later in the series. (or in the second season *crosses fingers*) *is shot for being a long show addict*
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IIxAnxietyxII said:
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Oh my fuckin god..it's obvious that judge is lunatic..but WHAT A SURPRISE tiger & bunny don't remember his features.

/end rant


huh o.O???
what features do you mean they should remember? lunatic is hiding behind his costume

it's pretty obvious for us, the viewer. but of course NOT for them.
May 19, 2011 11:47 PM

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good ep
May 20, 2011 1:58 AM

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IIxAnxietyxII said:
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Oh my fuckin god..it's obvious that judge is lunatic..but WHAT A SURPRISE tiger & bunny don't remember his features.

/end rant


huh o.O???
what features do you mean they should remember? lunatic is hiding behind his costume

it's pretty obvious for us, the viewer. but of course NOT for them.


His eyes & lips come on now..
May 20, 2011 2:54 PM

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well, it's obviously his voice
memorable, as for me :)
May 20, 2011 5:42 PM

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This series is really picking up, now! Definitely getting the Light Yagami vibe from Lunatic.

The oxygen chamber scene was pretty great. xD
Eat some steak and scoot up to bed~
May 21, 2011 11:31 AM

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Obvious end is obvious!
May 21, 2011 7:43 PM

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Wow, this show is getting better and better! Loved the fight in this episode ... plus the oxygen chamber thing was hilarious lol XD
Hmm, so I want to know about Ouroboros too ... ah well, I like that Tiger is trying to help Bunny lol :S
Plus, lol judge ... is obvious XD
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When I heard the name Lunatic I just nodded my head. It works for me. What a horrible combination Tiger & Blue Rose make. But to get another chance to see Blue Rose, it was worth it.

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rechajulay said:
IIxAnxietyxII said:
/rant

Oh my fuckin god..it's obvious that judge is lunatic..but WHAT A SURPRISE tiger & bunny don't remember his features.

/end rant


huh o.O???
what features do you mean they should remember? lunatic is hiding behind his costume

it's pretty obvious for us, the viewer. but of course NOT for them.
yah people seem to have a hard time following this concept. i rememebr people wouldnt shut up throughout star driver how no one saw past the masks even though its just suppossed to be obvious to us not the charecters. plenty of things do this its just some viewers get pretty dumb about very simple things like this
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