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| i didn't quite get the staircase scene. why exactly is lawrence a "smooth talker"? im quite confident in my english but sometimes i just don't get it... could someone spell it out for me please? what was going on behind the scenes? |
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| Nice cute episode. And after the developments of the first episodes Holo and Lawrence seem to be closer and more sincere with there feelings. By the way this new character why is it blond again? Or is it that shepherd girl from season one? Also am kind of wondering what's wrong with that town. Every one seem to be afraid of something. |
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| A very nice ep :)) after all those very serious episodes there's a one which makes you LOL :D |
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| Aww! Such a cute episode! I'm loving the relationship development <3 |
| Hmmm I think Horo may still be a Virgin. Even though she does have a human form she still thinks very much like a wolf and wolves usually don't have sex unless it's to produce off spring and I'm pretty sure Horo isn't a mother, she would have at least said so by now. Also Horo is a goddess of harvest. Which ties in with fertility, which is associated with the Virgin image. Also back then I'm pretty sure they had little to no contraceptives, so if she was having sex, it would be fair to say she would have kids by now. But also because of Horo's own personalty has some thing to do with it. I think Horo is way to proud to be dominated by a man like that. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
Jigero said: Hmmm I think Horo may still be a Virgin. Even though she does have a human form she still thinks very much like a wolf and wolves usually don't have sex unless it's to produce off spring and I'm pretty sure Horo isn't a mother, she would have at least said so by now. Also Horo is a goddess of harvest. Which ties in with fertility, which is associated with the Virgin image. Also back then I'm pretty sure they had little to no contraceptives, so if she was having sex, it would be fair to say she would have kids by now. But also because of Horo's own personalty has some thing to do with it. I think Horo is way to proud to be dominated by a man like that. Well I suppose that's a way to look at it too, and I'm quite sure that we just can't be sure about this, if they don't bring it up in the anime itself, which I find.. highly unlikely : p |
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| Well anyway, their bond is growing stronger each episode it comes by, I can tell by the way they both sometimes blush out of nowhere, the stair scene was just lovely; I can't use another word except that one, maybe it was really a spell? Joking of course. I can't really say what is Lawrence thinking since he had that random thought on the wagon, I don't even know who was with that Idea. Maybe they both? Horo wasn't blushing by then, so it was probably Lawrence. |
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israfel070 said: Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation, that was very helpful :)OK, I promised some people that I would post this here. Some of you might recognize me as the "Novelfag" who has been explaining confusing scenes this season on /a/. Becuase of a combination of subtitle errors and things that are just plain impossible to subtitle at all, our beloved Spice and Wolf has been hard to understand lately! So, this will focus on the whole hand-kiss scene from Ep 07. There were a lot of questions floating around about it. Horo is flirting and says "There's something you want, isn't there?" Lawrence shrugs it off, as usual, and basically calls her a spoiled child. She responds by bringing up that time when he slapped her hand, and claps her hands to "break the [romance] spell," a playful way of saying "Well, it was fun while it lasted!" Lawrence plays along, "waking up" from the spell and going into merchant mode, with "What am I doing here? Oh, right, furs and lumber! Serious business!" It’s nice to see them treating a breakup as an impossible joke to laugh about :) Horo brings the teasing back to niceness with "Will you recast the spell, then?" An open invitation to flirt at her. He drops to one knee and gives the deep-voice, eye-contact kiss on her hand. He didn't think it would be a big deal, since Horo is usually bulletproof, but she gets wet and pushes him against the wall. Despite the good atmosphere, he freezes. She asks "When are you going to loosen up?" He responds, "When you stop doing this to tease me" (better translations). His words imply that what he truly wants, is for Horo to be lovey-dovey with him, for real. Horo is shocked at how openly he said it, and asks if he was "smooth-talking." He still doesn't understand, and says that it just popped out. Horo goes "D'awwwww! That makes me so happy!" Lawrence finally realizes what he siad, and blushes because he hadn’t meant to reveal those feelings. One problem with animating these novels is that the book narrative makes it very clear that Horo’s feelings for Lawrence are serious. In Lawrence’s private thoughts, he is very insecure and doubts her. He thinks most of her advances are just mind games, and he always deflects them because he refuses to be a sucker. To Horo, however, their romance is 100% real and her way of seducing him is just playful. In the anime, we are restricted only to Lawrence’s thoughts, which makes many viewers misunderstand Horo. “Couldn’t she just TALK TO HIM?” you ask? Rather than directly tell Lawrence that his assumptions are wrong, Horo’s approach regarding his deflections is to wait patiently until he accepts that she really is serious about him. When he trusts her and understands her true feelings, his resistance will naturally end. To confront him about his insecurities would be ungraceful, and would force things before Lawrence is truly ready. |
sarahwest said: I have to agree, it was very elucidating.israfel070 said: Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation, that was very helpful :) |
israfel070 said: .... Despite the good atmosphere, he freezes. She asks "When are you going to loosen up?" He responds, "When you stop doing this to tease me" (better translations). His words imply that what he truly wants, is for Horo to be lovey-dovey with him, for real. Horo is shocked at how openly he said it, and asks if he was "smooth-talking." He still doesn't understand, and says that it just popped out. Horo goes "D'awwwww! That makes me so happy!" Lawrence finally realizes what he siad, and blushes because he hadn’t meant to reveal those feelings. ... To Horo, however, their romance is 100% real and her way of seducing him is just playful. .... 0_0 Wow... thats something that makes sense. But it is way beyond everything I have expected from that conversation. I thought they would just tease each other again, and Horo would be surprised about how good Lawrence became in giving response. Where do you get your information about Horo being 100% sure about her romance with Lawrence? Did you read Volume 5 of the novel already? |
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neverless said: Well Lawrence is gonna stick his head too far into the towns' situation, not suprising at all lol yeah --" |
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 Lawrence of the Rebellion? Doesn't he seriously look like Lelouch? o.o |
controlmajortom said: Lawrence of the Rebellion? Doesn't he seriously look like Lelouch? o.o Sure does, although it's not really surprising at all : p |
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Voiced408 said: I think Horo and Lawrence is the best couple in all of anime history, and this opinion is coming from the heart. Liiike seriously...I literally watch the episodes from both season over and over again just to see them talk to each other. You've seen 600+ series (including every single series that I've watched) so I think it's fair to say that your opinion is one that I can value quite highly. Doubt that any couples in anime will surpass the chemistry between Horo and Lawrence.. Good episode once again! Series keeps getting better and better. S2>S1 Also, in reply to above post: It kinda fits that Lawrence and Lelouch look similar since the same VA is being used. |
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| That's quite entertaining episode..sit back and lay low, slowing pacing..good for me |
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| Really nice, cute, "lovey-dovey" episode xD I hope they will become a couple at the end of the season! |
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| Horo you teaser! :D Omg, this episode is full of flirts. Loved how their relationship starts to evolve into a different level. Come on Lawrence, mate with Horo and make wolf babies already! Wonder who was that mysterious girl in the cloak. |
| It was so lovely, cute episode plus it was filled of flirts. The progression of their relationship is very wonderful, and their bond is growing stronger each episode. I loved how they blush each other, and Lawrence is a lucky guy to have her. |
| I think Lawrence finally felt in love. So episode is a lot of flirting. But I have a strange feeling about this. Isn't it to fast? In the other hand I'm glad that Lawrence and Horo relationship has levelup ^^ |
| Horo is SO kawaii. What did she really think about Lawrence's first kiss on her hand? And yes, I'm sure Lawrence will dig in too deep here. |
| Love the interaction between Horo and Lawrence as usual. |
| ^^' i suppose Lawrence doesn't want to have a peaceful travel with Horo after all... |
| What a sweet couple they are... ^^ |
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| New arc makes me curious. o: I also thought that other hooded character was guy until Horo pointed out that it was a girl... She reminded me of Sheik almost. XD All the little moments between Horo and Lawrence were adorable. :) Watching their relationship actually progress... is fun. |
| that scene at their room leading to the stairways was truely "magical" it was awesome!! best moment ever also, this new "shiek" woman will probably make horo jealous, which will be awesome to see, tsundere girls (or just girls having tsundere moments) are truely one of the cutest things when they have those moments, lol |
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| Nice episode~ |
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| That was a powerful spell.But was that girl Nora, hmm. >.> |
| I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls. |
| Lawrence has really become the smooth talker. I just wonder what is Holo thinks she's doing, going all nice on him. At some point they'll have to get their paths separated and Lawrence was really doing it right, acting so tepidly with her. But Holo is really irresponsible after all, she's not surprising me about it. |
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| That. Was. A. Cute. Episode. Meritas said: Lawrence has really become the smooth talker. Agree. xD |
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| There was a lot of "Spice" and a lot of "Wolf" in the first six episodes, but this episode really put the "and" in "Spice and Wolf." |
Hakuromatsu said: There was a lot of "Spice" and a lot of "Wolf" in the first six episodes, but this episode really put the "and" in "Spice and Wolf." This. Their relationship is finally developing. Great episode. |
| I loved this episode, favorite so far in the series. |
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| Pretty good episode! Almost makes of up Holo missing an episode or two! |
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| Nice and sweet episode really liked how playful they where! The story is a bit slow on the moment but knowing that it will probably change quite soon! Let's see what will happen next episode! |
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| quite a bit of hnngs. I've seen enough Sheik to know where this is going. |
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| Really cute |
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| Nice episode. Lawrence and Horo became more closer to each other. And Lawrence is a smooth talker indeed. And who was the woman in the cloak? I've seen her in the OP all the time. |
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