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May 6, 2011 8:37 AM
#1
| Has anyone seen this video on youtube before? Nothing really special about the vid but let's look at her channel comments... http://www.youtube.com/user/lowplastic Doesn't this seem somewhat familiar? One bad vid is all it takes to send your youtube account to hel loll. But seriously, does she deserve this? And about the age old debate; do fish feel pain or are those just nerves at work? |
May 6, 2011 8:45 AM
#2
| What I'm feeling sorry is the fish. ___________________________________________________________ Japanese make and show this kind of shows, but still censor their porn.... |
May 6, 2011 8:49 AM
#3
| ^ Same here. It's not the girl you should feel sorry for, it's the fish. And why feel sorry for her? by uploading something like that, you're bound to get people hating on you for it. If the comments upset her that badly, she'd take the video down. |
May 6, 2011 8:56 AM
#4
| Hmmm live fish, I hope its clean though. Since you never know might have worms in it. |
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May 6, 2011 8:56 AM
#5
| I loled at the comments. People wanting her to die because of a fish. |
May 6, 2011 9:32 AM
#7
| Seriously she should die for this. Why feel sorry for her? If anyone gives a crap about what people say about them on the internet then that's their own fault.... |
May 6, 2011 9:46 AM
#8
| She really should do that, just kill the fish and eat it already, no reason to torture it like that. |
May 6, 2011 9:46 AM
#9
| That was creepy, random and unnecesary in so many ways. Someone please kill her. |
May 6, 2011 9:50 AM
#10
| This woman does not represent Asia or Asian people as a whole, backlash protection just in case, however she should be ashamed for posting that, PETA is not going to like this. |
May 6, 2011 10:05 AM
#12
| Thats the definition of "nasty" right there. |
May 6, 2011 10:12 AM
#13
Drunk_Samurai said: It does seem rather random, yes, unless the fish was their pet or something. I loled at the comments. People wanting her to die because of a fish. At least when I want people to die, it's due to personal gain, like wanting 90% of the students around me to die so the average score is lowered thus making it easier for me to breeze through without effort, wanting the dog in the apartment beside me to die because it's got an annoying bark or wishing someone would choke on their food because it would be entertaining to watch. |
May 6, 2011 10:23 AM
#14
| KILL IT UNTIL ITS DEAD, THEN EAT IT YOU ARSEHOLE! People eat fishes everyday, but the thought of eating something while its alive and especially the pain it had of being cooked alive before it..... is just.... bleaaahhhh~ and fuck... she's from hong kong..... why am i not suprised? :/ |
May 6, 2011 10:36 AM
#16
Baman said: Drunk_Samurai said: It does seem rather random, yes, unless the fish was their pet or something. I loled at the comments. People wanting her to die because of a fish. At least when I want people to die, it's due to personal gain, like wanting 90% of the students around me to die so the average score is lowered thus making it easier for me to breeze through without effort, wanting the dog in the apartment beside me to die because it's got an annoying bark or wishing someone would choke on their food because it would be entertaining to watch. Now MAL members are making me laugh because of this thread. What about for money? |
May 6, 2011 10:44 AM
#17
| The fish is actually probably dead. Animals still moving and having basic reflexes after death is not unheard of (chickens running around without their heads, for example, is not a myth, it does happen). If that fish were alive, it would be flopping all over the place with whatever was left of its muscles. So quit being so easily disturbed and learn to tolerate other cultures' practices, even if you don't agree with them. Edit: does anyone what that dish is called? I'd like to do some actual fact-checking. |
May 6, 2011 10:46 AM
#18
| Is the fish even safe to eat.... I MEAN THE FISH IS MOVING STILL? TALK TO THE CHEF DAMN IT |
May 6, 2011 10:47 AM
#19
| As for why I'm feeling sorry for her, it's because eating live food seems to be pretty much a culture thing, especially in the East. Japan does it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOUnjB6SPxE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M90BO-KFyQk Korea does it too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4c4g3iXv0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTjBFI4VVys But only this girl has to die? :/ Plus she also seems pretty disgusted by the dish in front of her, judging from what she's saying in the video. |
May 6, 2011 10:48 AM
#20
Confucius said: Is the fish even safe to eat.... I MEAN THE FISH IS MOVING STILL? TALK TO THE CHEF DAMN IT It is safe to eat however yes condemning the chef was a better idea. |
May 6, 2011 11:55 AM
#21
| I do not see a substantial difference between eating the fish dead, or eating it while living. You are bound to throw away food every day, do you not think of the chicken? It died for nothing. Chopped to bits and roasted and you didn't even want it. You threw it down along with eggs and asparagus in a trash can. Left it to rot. Isn't such a pointless death quite on par with senseless torture of a fish? The philosopher Black Dynamite said, though in the context of ends justifying the means rather than this, "You know people, they don´t want to see the cow killed... they just want their steak on a plate. Can you dig it?" I find these words poignant, and relevant, in a mysterious way. AbstractCalamity said: If that fish were alive, it would be flopping all over the place with whatever was left of its muscles. Which is pretty much nothing; everything below its head is crispy fried. That's how she takes a bit so easily, you couldn't do it while the fish was still structurally integral and not fried in hot oil. I don't know if it is actually alive, whatever that means. |
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May 6, 2011 12:11 PM
#22
| lol people are hating her for just because she was served a dish with a half dead fish on it. I also seen a video of something similar to this on America's Funniest Home videos some people eat fish like that in some countries get the fuck over it. I would understand the rage if it was a cat, dog, horse,etc..... |
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May 6, 2011 12:15 PM
#23
| HOLYSHIT.... yeah....... I only feel sorry for the fish. Very sorry for the fish (and all the other fish/etc that have to go through that). I don't think eating live, conscious animals is okay and I don't care how cultural it is. If the video is just some post-mortem twitches, that'd be fine. However, that begs the question of whether the fish was fried while it was still alive/conscious, and that would not be fine. Kaiserpingvin said: You are bound to throw away food every day, do you not think of the chicken? It died for nothing. Chopped to bits and roasted and you didn't even want it. You threw it down along with eggs and asparagus in a trash can. Left it to rot. Isn't such a pointless death quite on par with senseless torture of a fish? I completely agree, and back when I ate meat it was my honor code to never throw any away precisely for that reason. Although it's not killing that I find morally objectionable, but senselessness and suffering. |
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May 6, 2011 12:15 PM
#24
| At least you know it's still fresh. No, seriously, I don't see anything wrong with the video. People are overreacting. Every day people die, but when a fish dies, people get upset about it. Sure, the fish got some more pain than needed. Sure, she could just kill it and release it out of his misery. But would it really matter? I'm pretty sure every day uncountable amounts of fish die and suffer, no need to insult someone who just uploaded it. |
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May 6, 2011 12:27 PM
#25
ByeByeMrMoon said: At least you know it's still fresh. No, seriously, I don't see anything wrong with the video. People are overreacting. Every day people die, but when a fish dies, people get upset about it. Sure, the fish got some more pain than needed. Sure, she could just kill it and release it out of his misery. But would it really matter? I'm pretty sure every day uncountable amounts of fish die and suffer, no need to insult someone who just uploaded it. This pretty much. I called people out on her channel and told them if they were PETA supporters go get off their lazy asses and destroy things like puppy mills instead of flaming one person over the internet and over a most likely dead fish at that. xD |
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May 6, 2011 12:31 PM
#26
| If I were into psychology, this type of thing would probably be a real gold mine. It's such a striking example of how simple a person's thought process really tends to be, on so many levels. They don't contemplate the validity of their reaction to what they are seeing: They don't ask "is the fish dead or alive"? It moves, so they assume it is alive. Assuming the fish is alive, they don't ask whether the fish has the capacity to "suffer", they project and then think "that looks unpleasant, the fish must be suffering." Assuming the fish is alive and suffering, they think, "the person responsible for this should suffer too." They don't apply that concept to themselves, they don't consider all the similar "awful" things that have happened and happen to support their lifestyle; they don't feel even a slight bit of guilt. So assuming all those things, they assume that the natural conclusion is for the person behind the camera to die, which is a great irony when you give it some thought. I think questions like "why do people kill each other", and so on, all have very simple answers that are exemplified by this thought process--people ultimately act in accordance with how they feel, to the extent that their feelings resemble the feelings of some local majority. And yet, of course, they would claim that morals are not relative. |
May 6, 2011 1:17 PM
#27
| Why should she be resented when it is a dish on a menu thought up by by either the cooks or the owner and then cooked by the chiefs. All she did was order food to meet her daily requirement of nutrients. We have the right to do anything we want within the limit of an individual's own power. |
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May 6, 2011 1:27 PM
#28
| That video's nasty.. but all of the hate (s)he received from it's too much. Quoting a comment from that channel: Did u no that a fishes body functions are active long after their dead? Its kinda like a freekin zombie. U gotta chop of the head. Anyone thats every gon fishin would no this. A fish is good and dead after a few minutes out of water. So theirs nothing cruel about this video. Just a little twisted. It would hella creap me out eating a fish with its head still attached still moving. Not sure if that's true or not though. |
May 6, 2011 1:53 PM
#29
Orca said: I feel sick after watching that. Poor fish Yea. If people are gonna eat it, it better be dead. Geez. |
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May 6, 2011 2:08 PM
#30
| the video was weak and there was no need to hate on the chick in the vid as she was disgusted about it as well(even though she ate it)...for a lot of Asians that's a rare treat, I know as I'm Asian and my parents love that whole raw fish delicacy(I find it disgusting myself)...but could be worse, like a chick eating maggots like in this vid: |
May 6, 2011 2:12 PM
#31
| Totally not cool. I don't think she deserves to die, but maybe someone should smack some sense into her. |
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May 6, 2011 2:16 PM
#32
| Seeing stuff you eat alive like that is a bit nasty, well yes we all eat chicken, fish, but it's still alive and it looks in pain, wouldn't it be better to kill it fast and eat it then, now eating fish alive and uploading video on youtube you really have to have nothing else to do or be out of your mind, it's disturbing... |
May 6, 2011 2:28 PM
#33
Nebulous57 said: Totally not cool. I don't think she deserves to die, but maybe someone should smack some sense into her. for what exactly? Ordering a fish and having it show up still twitching. The fish is dead, it's pretty baffling that people have such strong words like "She should die" Etc. when they're too stupid to know what they're even talking about. |
May 6, 2011 2:29 PM
#34
| You can eat your food that you paid for anyway you want it. |
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May 6, 2011 3:08 PM
#35
| The moment someone puts dead fish over human life there is something very wrong with their morals. |
May 6, 2011 3:30 PM
#36
Neiru2012 said: HOLYSHIT.... yeah....... I only feel sorry for the fish. Very sorry for the fish (and all the other fish/etc that have to go through that). I don't think eating live, conscious animals is okay and I don't care how cultural it is. If the video is just some post-mortem twitches, that'd be fine. However, that begs the question of whether the fish was fried while it was still alive/conscious, and that would not be fine. Kaiserpingvin said: You are bound to throw away food every day, do you not think of the chicken? It died for nothing. Chopped to bits and roasted and you didn't even want it. You threw it down along with eggs and asparagus in a trash can. Left it to rot. Isn't such a pointless death quite on par with senseless torture of a fish? I completely agree, and back when I ate meat it was my honor code to never throw any away precisely for that reason. Although it's not killing that I find morally objectionable, but senselessness and suffering. So you must hate people who eat lobster. |
May 6, 2011 3:32 PM
#37
hikky said: If I were into psychology, this type of thing would probably be a real gold mine. It's such a striking example of how simple a person's thought process really tends to be, on so many levels. They don't contemplate the validity of their reaction to what they are seeing: They don't ask "is the fish dead or alive"? It moves, so they assume it is alive. Assuming the fish is alive, they don't ask whether the fish has the capacity to "suffer", they project and then think "that looks unpleasant, the fish must be suffering." Assuming the fish is alive and suffering, they think, "the person responsible for this should suffer too." They don't apply that concept to themselves, they don't consider all the similar "awful" things that have happened and happen to support their lifestyle; they don't feel even a slight bit of guilt. So assuming all those things, they assume that the natural conclusion is for the person behind the camera to die, which is a great irony when you give it some thought. I think questions like "why do people kill each other", and so on, all have very simple answers that are exemplified by this thought process--people ultimately act in accordance with how they feel, to the extent that their feelings resemble the feelings of some local majority. And yet, of course, they would claim that morals are not relative. Couldn't have said it better myself (I really couldn't have). You, sir, get it. |
May 6, 2011 3:39 PM
#38
Drunk_Samurai said: So you must hate people who eat lobster. I never liked the way lobsters are eaten and I have never eaten lobster. However, lobsters are arthropods, and their nervous systems are much simpler than that of a vertebrae (such as fish), so it's unlikely they are able to process pain. I'd still rather not take the risk with any creature that has evolved the mobility to avoid pain. |
May 6, 2011 3:43 PM
#39
May 6, 2011 3:55 PM
#40
Shant said: I like "Sunkist02"'s comment, I only assume it's someone from here though, lol. Yess. ^^ I totally agree. :D lmao. The reaction I saw from people was hilarious but it's not really right to bag on a culture like that. I mean sure, it's kinda creepy to eat a fish like that, but I'm sure it's just the nerves reacting to the chop sticks and stuff. Anyways, people can sure be hypocrites when they want to, it's kinda sad and extremely pathetic. |
May 6, 2011 4:06 PM
#41
| I feel bad for her. It just seems a little... excessive. |
May 6, 2011 4:14 PM
#42
-Arthur said: What I'm feeling sorry is the fish. ___________________________________________________________ Japanese make and show this kind of shows, but still censor their porn.... AGREED!!! Cook your fish and UNCENSOR your Porn.....Fucking Japan.... |
May 6, 2011 4:44 PM
#43
Wiibii said: KILL IT UNTIL ITS DEAD, THEN EAT IT YOU ARSEHOLE! People eat fishes everyday, but the thought of eating something while its alive and especially the pain it had of being cooked alive before it..... is just.... bleaaahhhh~ and fuck... she's from hong kong..... why am i not suprised? :/ Um? Whats wrong with being from Hong Kong? I'm Taiwanese/Japanese and we serve dog in Taiwan. |
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May 6, 2011 5:06 PM
#44
Kenshin- said: That was creepy, random and unnecesary in so many ways. Someone please kill her. I agree |
May 6, 2011 5:24 PM
#45
May 6, 2011 5:25 PM
#46
Kaiserpingvin said: I do not see a substantial difference between eating the fish dead, or eating it while living. You are bound to throw away food every day, do you not think of the chicken? It died for nothing. Chopped to bits and roasted and you didn't even want it. You threw it down along with eggs and asparagus in a trash can. Left it to rot. Isn't such a pointless death quite on par with senseless torture of a fish? The philosopher Black Dynamite said, though in the context of ends justifying the means rather than this, "You know people, they don´t want to see the cow killed... they just want their steak on a plate. Sorry but you are completely off-topic here. What does throwing away your dead chicken has to do with eating something alive? It's a waste to throw away good food but is irrelevant. If you die and the next day i chop you to pieces and throw you in the garbage would that make any difference to you? It really won' because you won't even exist and of course you won't feel anything. Your body is soulless, it's just an object. Also as humans we have a realization of death. We all gonna die one day and many of us risk their lives or sacrifice them for different purposes. The shock has nothing to do with death. Killing something to eat has an understating to it. We even kill each other let alone a fish. Whether a death was pointless or not is irrelevant. The problem is if that fish is alive. Sorry but that is not understandable. And there's your big difference from eating the already dead cow and all that. Killing something and then eating it is not the same with torture. Just imagine your self being chased as food by some higher being. Sure you wouldn't like to die and you will fight to save yourself but in the end if you get caught and get killed in a second. Well it sucks but hell, shit happens and it was just a second. Now imagine getting caught and getting cooked alive and eaten alive, suffering horrendous pain and misery. Others eating you legs, hands and liver while you scream from excruciating pain. Is that really the same? And if it's the same with just being killed then why the hell will you be praying and hoping that they will just kill you fast? Because believe me you will. Anyone would. Sure as the top of the food chain we have the luxury of making other creatures as our pray and kill them for our needs, but we at least should have some decency while standing on our superior food chain podium and not torture them too. Saying all that, i don't really know if that fish is really cooked alive and if that movement isn't some kind of other phenomenon so i reserve judgment about this specific habit. Is there an Asian friend here that knows about this dish and can enlight us whether the fish is really cooked alive? |
MonadMay 6, 2011 5:54 PM
May 6, 2011 5:31 PM
#47
| I find it hilarious that people are telling her to die over a dead fish... |
May 6, 2011 5:35 PM
#48
Gogetters said: I find it hilarious that people are telling her to die over a dead fish... Drunk_Samurai should sue you over copyright infringement. |
May 6, 2011 5:37 PM
#49
Monad said: Kaiserpingvin said: I do not see a substantial difference between eating the fish dead, or eating it while living. You are bound to throw away food every day, do you not think of the chicken? It died for nothing. Chopped to bits and roasted and you didn't even want it. You threw it down along with eggs and asparagus in a trash can. Left it to rot. Isn't such a pointless death quite on par with senseless torture of a fish? The philosopher Black Dynamite said, though in the context of ends justifying the means rather than this, "You know people, they don´t want to see the cow killed... they just want their steak on a plate. Sorry but you are completely off-topic here. What does throwing away your dead chicken has to do with eating something alive? It's a waste to throw away good food but is irrelevant. If you die and the next day i chop you to pieces and throw you in the garbage would that make any difference to you? It really won' because you want even exist and of course you won't feel anything. Your body is soulless, it's just an object. Also as humans we have a realization of death. We all gonna die one day and many of us risk their lives or sacrifice them for different purposes. The shock has nothing to do with death. Killing something to eat has an understating to it. We even kill each other let alone a fish. Whether a death was pointless or not is irrelevant. The problem is if that fish is alive. Sorry but that is not understandable. And there's your big difference from eating the already dead cow and all that. Killing something and then eating it is not the same with torture. Just imagine your self being chased as food by some higher being. Sure you wouldn't like to die and you will fight to save yourself but in the end if you get caught and get killed in a second. Well it sucks but hell, shit happens and it was just a second. Now imagine getting caught and getting cooked alive and eaten alive, suffering horrendous pain and misery. Others eating you legs, hands and liver while you scream from excruciating pain. Is that really the same? And if it's the same with just being killed then why the hell will you praying and hoping that they will just kill you fast? Because believe me you will. Anyone would. Sure as the top of the food chain we have the luxury of making other creatures as our pray and kill them for our needs, but we at least should have some decency while standing on our superior food chain podium and not torture them too. Saying all that, i don't really know if that fish is really coked alive and if that movement is some kind of other phenomenon so i reserve judgment about this specific habit. Is there an Asian friend here that knows about this dish and can enlight us whether the fish is really cooked alive? That's a contradiction. |
May 6, 2011 5:42 PM
#50
Bostonblows said: Nebulous57 said: Totally not cool. I don't think she deserves to die, but maybe someone should smack some sense into her. for what exactly? Ordering a fish and having it show up still twitching. The fish is dead, it's pretty baffling that people have such strong words like "She should die" Etc. when they're too stupid to know what they're even talking about. More than anything its just odd. Cool opinion though. |
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