Every animal on Earth somehow gained human intelligence and the ability to speak, are you still going to eat meat?

A more interesting question is, in this scenario, would you reproach predatory animals for eating other (roughly) equally intelligent animals?

I omitted the obvious fact that carnivores need to eat meat to survive. eheh...

A more interesting question is, in this scenario, would you reproach predatory animals for eating other (roughly) equally intelligent animals?

What would happened if all plant life also gained human intelligence and the ability to speak?

@fleurbleue

Fleur-senpai...

I don't care what happens.

I ain't ever giving up my cheeseburgers. Ya hear?

LMAO LOL XD

If that became the case, then animals would use their newfound intelligence in the same way humans did: they'd try to become the most dominant species on earth, which means we'd have to fight seemingly endless global wars against animals, even WW1+2 combined would probably be peanuts in comparison.

"Every animal on Earth somehow gained human.." no, no, no. I definitely don't like where this title is going given MAL's history.

Edit: Oh, it's about... Erm, we eat some of the most intelligent ones already. It's not like intelligence was ever the deciding factor.

@Zarutaku Maybe with other primates, but I have a hard time envisioning animals with no hands being much of a danger to humans.

It was kind of a trick question to see how people would react. hehe


I would strike terror into their bovine hearts! We bred them for food and that ain't gonna change, baby!

I went to a cow auction with my grandpa as a kid. The cows seemed to love getting attention.

Now I'm imagining all the new religions and wars that would come about by all the animals being so smart.

Your threads are getting wilder and wilder, Fleur.

I will never say no to a steak.

With human intelligence they'd surely figure out how to fight humans.

@Zarutaku Crows are already awfully smart and the best they can do is dive-bombing.🤔

Awfully smart for non-human standards, but still nowhere near humans.

@Zarutaku Well they are supposed to be about as smart as a 7-year-old or something. If every crow on Earth wanted me dead versus every actual 7-year-old wanting me dead then I'd still pick the crows for sure.🙃

Cows can get sick and even die if they're not milked, plus they enjoy it, so I don't think they'd mind that. They voluntarily milk themselves at stations.

Does this question imply eating human meat of stupid humans who can't speak?

Oh no, is this some kind of subtle warning? 😭

I'm just trying my best to think of threads that can be interesting all while not being exaggeratedly controversial.🥲

@thepotatoprince Absolutely no hesitation, I see.🤣 Think of the poor cows verbally begging for their lives while they enter the slaughterhouse.

@fleurbleue

Beef is not going to eat itself.

Somebody has to eat those cheeseburgers.

Yes, no hesitation.

@no_eyes_sight Well, not really but that's an interesting question. Would find it more morally acceptable to eat non-verbal mentally disabled humans?

@fleurbleue I see already now zero comma zero difference in life-value between an intelligent human and a plant or an insect, let alone an animal. And I am not even vegetarian.
Human are nothing but ants in front of the infinity of all what's out there. I have not the slightest anthropocentric value in me. All life is just life. There is no "superior" life for me. There is just life that I care about, and life that I don't care about.
If I love a dog, I'd value him/her more then any human and even more than all humans. Specially in this current human society which makes me puke.

But your question is misleading. I said stupid humans, not mentally disabled humans. Don't try to push woke narratives on me as if I had said that disabled people should be thrown in a well like in Sparta.

@149597871 Well of course there are gonna be people who still gonna eat them. The question is what you are gonna do.

@thepotatoprince You know, if everyone stopped eating beef, there eventually wouldn't be any to eat. That would only be a noble sacrifice if beef just appeared out of nowhere with no explanation. 🤣

@fleurbleue

Hmmm. Fleur-senpai.

You ask people in your threads, but you don't tell us what you would do.

It's a mystery.

Would you give up your favorite meat dish to just eat veggies? Or keep eating meat?

Btw, I had bacon and eggs a few hours ago. Poor bacon. Devoured by me. :(

@thepotatoprince I already almost never eat beef or pork, maybe twice a year at most (mostly because it's healthier not to eat them) so chances are high I wouldn't eat it them at all anymore. I eat chicken quite often, though. But now, would I stop eating them if they became extremely intelligent? First, is there a strong connection between intelligence and suffering? I'm no biologist but higher intelligence could probably give those chickens a higher comprehension of their situation and future untimely fate, so I don't think it's wrong to say they would suffer even more than when they were dumber. But there is also the fact that you can relate to them more now that they can talk and express their suffering. Would it make a vegan out of me? To be honest, the answer is probably not but I would still be conflicted, and somehow would try to find some middle ground. I could very much keep chicken around for their eggs and only eat them when they die on their own.

@fleurbleue

Yeah, it did cross my mind that one can eat the talking animals if they're old and close to their natural deaths.

But I don't know if I can wait. Food is delicious~

@no_eyes_sight Welp, I'm not trying to start things with you, I simply equated being non verbal with being disabled rather that just being plain stupid.