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| Suika to the rescue! Man she looks so good now. |
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| We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore. I'll tear the third paper and put it away. Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right. On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious. |
yellowheartrenSep 18, 7:14 AM
| Suika had to be so strong for 7 long years on her own. She didn't give up and made the revival fluid from scratch. What an amazing feat regardless of instructions. If this was me, probably no one would've been revived even after 20 years, lmao. Been looking forward to see this animated and the moment she revived Senku was beautiful as expected. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Suika's truly the goat ;_; |
| Deep dark fantasies |
| Suika is a testament of diligence, perseverance and an unfathomable level of faith for Senku and her friends. Senku did well during his first 6 months all alone in the wilderness, but in this case, Suika did exceptionally well. Considering she has spent 7 YEARS all alone by herself. The responsibility she has on her shoulders is massive; she knew that without her efforts, she may never be able to depetrify and see her friends ever again, so she did her very best and struggled endlessly whilst trying to survive all by herself, all so that she can revive at least Senku. All whilst being a small girl. And now look at how magnificently she's grown! This is one of my favourite parts of the story. When the grown-up Suika was finally revealed in the manga, it was a moment of pure elation as did here this time! More than her tireless efforts, more than her natural beauty, the most lovable thing about her is how much faith she has in Senku. Surviving 7 years without human contact is no joke, but Senku's presence, even if petrified, is all that she needs to push onwards, towards a brighter future... A Science future! (Part 2) ~lol And then Senku did it all in the blink of an eye XD |
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| Damn, it was so heart-wrenching seeing one thing after another fail like that while being literally all alone (for real this time, since no astronauts could've been away for duty at the time of the second stone reckoning. Mad respect to her for keeping it up non-stop and her post-timeskip appearance is crazy, I knew there was something with Ishigami lineage xD. Jokes aside, it was a massive effort from her and Senku with the little cheeky "just seven years" is a little insensitive, if I may be blunt lol. There were moments like the scene with the wind gust but thankfully Suika had her hands on the papers and the ocean travelling - I was just praying something wouldn't be irreversible but I guess I got to calm myself down since it's just a show. I feel that's testament to how attached I've become to these characters and it can be a little stressful, lol. Also, glad that no wild beast or poisonous animals made their way to them even though they're geographically at the location where that seems to be one of the peak on our real life Earth (aka Amazon rainforest). Just one more episode to go, damn! I've heard it takes a little bit of a downward trend from here (story-wse until the conclusion) but I have yet to be fazed by the series so let's see. |
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| This episode was something special, got me a little teary eyed.... |
| Suika Stone Shippuden |
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Reply to yellowheartren
We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
I'll tear the third paper and put it away.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
| @yellowheartren While I do agree we have strayed so far from the original premise, this has been the case since season 2. You do realize that the numbers on the papers were not steps, right? They were 3 different ways to achieve the same thing. Suika put away the 3rd one because she wanted to save everyone the fastest way possible and that method would take a year. Eventually, she realizes that one is her best shot because she failed with the 1st and 2nd alternatives. Regarding Suika's ability to do all this, it took her 7 years while following the most basic method. If anything, the most absurd thing about all of this is this 8-year-old not giving up after being alone and hopeless for so long. "On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious." What does this mean? Every single piece of media is trying to manipulate the emotions of its consumers. Seeing a character we have known since season 1 struggle alone is meant to be sad. Her being younger than everyone else is supposed to add to that. Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago. Mod Edit: removed spoiler related to another series |
SushiRoeSep 18, 3:36 PM
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| Suika is the GOAT. I spent most of the episode with tears in my eyes. All the effort, time, and perseverance she poured in was the key to the scientific kingdom—and to humanity’s return. She always wanted to be useful, and even though she had already proven herself before, now there’s no doubt: she’s a true scientist. Despite failure and delay, she never gave up. She’s a being of pure light. |
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Reply to Mat5i6
@yellowheartren This has been going on ever since the stone wars, so I'm not sure why you are bothered by it now. But I do agree, the part that drew me in is more or less long gone. I still want to watch it tho, just not for the original premise.
| @Mat5i6 Well said. That season 1 aspect to the science was fantastic, it will be missed dearly. However, the series seriously needed to skim over a lot of stuff as the story progressed, otherwise it would've ended up moving along at a snail's pace. So I would agree with you, I also want to keep watching this series for it's current story rather than the science. |
Reply to HistoricalMaize
@yellowheartren
While I do agree we have strayed so far from the original premise, this has been the case since season 2.
You do realize that the numbers on the papers were not steps, right? They were 3 different ways to achieve the same thing.
Suika put away the 3rd one because she wanted to save everyone the fastest way possible and that method would take a year.
Eventually, she realizes that one is her best shot because she failed with the 1st and 2nd alternatives.
Regarding Suika's ability to do all this, it took her 7 years while following the most basic method. If anything, the most absurd thing about all of this is this 8-year-old not giving up after being alone and hopeless for so long.
"On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious."
What does this mean? Every single piece of media is trying to manipulate the emotions of its consumers.
Seeing a character we have known since season 1 struggle alone is meant to be sad. Her being younger than everyone else is supposed to add to that.
Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago.
Mod Edit: removed spoiler related to another series
While I do agree we have strayed so far from the original premise, this has been the case since season 2.
You do realize that the numbers on the papers were not steps, right? They were 3 different ways to achieve the same thing.
Suika put away the 3rd one because she wanted to save everyone the fastest way possible and that method would take a year.
Eventually, she realizes that one is her best shot because she failed with the 1st and 2nd alternatives.
Regarding Suika's ability to do all this, it took her 7 years while following the most basic method. If anything, the most absurd thing about all of this is this 8-year-old not giving up after being alone and hopeless for so long.
"On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious."
What does this mean? Every single piece of media is trying to manipulate the emotions of its consumers.
Seeing a character we have known since season 1 struggle alone is meant to be sad. Her being younger than everyone else is supposed to add to that.
Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago.
Mod Edit: removed spoiler related to another series
| @HistoricalMaize HistoricalMaize said: Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago. She still has her glasses though? Damaged, yeah, but still usable with some suspension of disbelief from us, the viewer. It's DR.STONE, if you're disbelief somehow isn't already suspended enough, idk how you would've made it this far. |
| This episode was certainly my highlight from reading the manga post s1 anime. So glad to finally see it animated. I couldn't help but cry at the end with the bittersweet reunion of Senku and a now, much older, Suika. |
Matt_KingSep 18, 8:28 AM
| That was very emotional and heartbreaking... , going through all that hardship alone but Suika's determination made her strong and that determination finally bore results. Such a heart-tugging reunion.  |
| I'm watching peak right now. This just shows the stubborness of humanity to keep on pushing forward. No matter what challenges we face, we'll still give our all in order to succeed in the end. Just that line by Senku was absolutely perfect. Truly amazing episode. |
"Like rowing a boat, we enter the future backwards. All we see are scenes of the past, and no one can control the views of tomorrow" - Wit Studio  |
Reply to Matt_King
@HistoricalMaize
She still has her glasses though? Damaged, yeah, but still usable with some suspension of disbelief from us, the viewer. It's DR.STONE, if you're disbelief somehow isn't already suspended enough, idk how you would've made it this far.
HistoricalMaize said:
Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago.
Edit: The glasses thing is the only indefensible part because the author wanted things to happen like this and ignored how bad her vision was shown to be 3 seasons ago.
She still has her glasses though? Damaged, yeah, but still usable with some suspension of disbelief from us, the viewer. It's DR.STONE, if you're disbelief somehow isn't already suspended enough, idk how you would've made it this far.
| @Matt_King Sure, but she is not just reading. She is surviving by herself in the middle of the forest. Those damaged glasses should not make up for all of this, but if this is the only thing, then, I am not personally bothered by it. |
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| I was bawling my eyes out throughout the episode seeing Suika try her best to bring everybody's petrified bodies together and trying to make the revival fluid. Our Cute little Suika cooked the best that she could in the absence of Senku and the others and she finally did it in just seven years and she has turned into a fine woman 🥹❤️❤️ |
| Unexpectedly, Suika has become one of the greatest heroes of all time. I adore her! |
 "Tarapia tapioco! Brematurata la supercazzola, o scherziamo?" |
Reply to yellowheartren
We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
I'll tear the third paper and put it away.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
| @yellowheartren This confuses me a lot. 1) Didn't we already have massive amounts of suspension of disbelief from the start? By episode 1 they're asking you to believe that people can be turned to stone, and such a thing can be reversed with essentially modified bat pee. Shortly after that Tsukasa straight up punches a lion. It's science fiction (and a shonen literally released in Shonen Jump), of course they have to BS through some of the science for it to be feasible, Dr. Stone's goal was never 100% realism. 2) The fastforwarding is annoying at times (e.g. skipping building the fortress before Stanley arrives), but in a lot of cases it's necessary to prevent the story from dragging. They reuse materials and inventions all the time and it would eventually be a pain to reexplain how everything was made every time they are used. It's better for pacing to skip materials we already have (metal parts for bikes) and focus on the new parts (rubber for the bike tires). We see this all the time with the cable cord from treasure island being used for the cable car to cross the desert as another example. I see no issue with preventing redundancies as long as we're not skipping entirely new and complicated inventions that couldn't have just spawned out of nowhere (again, Inagaki really should have given more attention to that fortress). Making these things takes a long time too so jumping through time has been sort of essential from the get go. Many years have passed in their time because the story is constantly skipping weeks or months at a time when they are working on the same project (like building the Perseus). Hell, don't they have a massive time jump to make revival fluid literally in season 1 episode 1? I don't see how Dr. Stone has really lost sight of it's premise here, this has been going on from the beginning. Sure, the writing has room for improvement, but I can see where these writing decisions come from and it is not a new thing for the series. If it's still bothering you this deeply this far into the story, I would just recommend dropping the anime altogether. None of these things are going to magically fix themselves in the last cour, which as a manga reader is probably the weakest arc in the series already. It seems more like a waste of your time to see it through. (side note, Suika still has her glasses, they are just broken. As someone who also has horrible nearsightedness, you could see well enough to read with the amount of her glasses she has left. It's not ideal, but it's not enough of a stretch to be problem) |
Yes...I ate 5 slices of pizza...those mozzarella sticks were good too...Yes, I'm lactose intolerant, what about it?? |
| Damn. I had no idea Suika was strong like that. I guess that's a stone world girl for you. But seriously, she went through so many different things that'd be impossible for an average 8-year-old. It's very impressive. Senku and the others taught her well. If you can't find revival fluid, make them. It's crazy how if Luna didn't throw the one she had a huge problem like this probably wouldn't exist. The thing that I feared(?) the most happened: Suika spent years developing the revival fluid. That took 7 years? Senku probably included the time Suika was stone too. But man, it feels so amazing now that Suika is all grown up. It's so freaking crazy. It's almost unbelievable. Suika Stone was amazing. The last scene with the ED song playing almost made me tear up. Can't wait for the last episode. |
| Man... The end wtf 😭 One of the best episodes in the entire series. --- lol wtf with the edgy comments poisoning the thread, do you guys want a Suika hug. |
| Swear I’m saying this every week at this point, but one of the best Dr. Stone episodes ever. The ED playing as Suika continued to work on the revival fluid and building structures for the materials just made me cry sm man. I didn’t appreciate these suika chapters enough when reading them. I knew she was the MVP, but the anime did a great job of driving home just how utterly lonely and sad it is to be the only person in the world while the people you feel are much more qualified to have been entrusted with the revival fluid, are all stone statues. Mind you suika is just a little girl, too. So much pressure to put on her, but it shows you how much senku truly trusted her. More importantly, it shows you how science doesn’t just belong to geniuses, but to everyday normal people. Here’s someone with no scientific background or training that uses science to save her friends. “I’m gonna keep trying” I am so proud of her for not getting discouraged and giving up, but fighting and clawing to overcome adversity and bring the group back. That hug at the end meant everything to me, first time she could talk to or hug someone in nearly a decade. I couldn’t imagine. |
Marinate1016Sep 18, 10:28 AM
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| congratulation Suika <3 you worked very hard |
Reply to yellowheartren
We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
I'll tear the third paper and put it away.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
| @yellowheartren Those are some of my biggest problems with Dr. STONE too. This series could've been SO MUCH better if it took itself a little more seriously AND the pacing didn't become so fast with just the 2nd season. In some ways, Season 1 is still peak Dr. STONE. I liked it when the series had a much slower pacing and would explain every scientific invention step by step. Every step felt like a journey. Like when they went to get sulfuric acid. I still remember that. I don't like how everything is just skimmed over without giving much importance like when they built Perseus or how in this season they just made the fortress instantly. Sure, things would become much slower. But that's not really a bad thing. Which brings me to my second point. Most characters in this series is very one-dimensional. Every once in a while someone does get some time to shine like Suika in this episode but it's like these characters don't even exist when the plot doesn't need them. If the pacing was slower, there might be more time to explore these characters and make them human. You can hear the characters say their "unique and quirky" catchphrase with their exaggerated voice so many times before going mad. Luna has to be the worst offender here. "I am cool-headed Luna." yeah I got that the past 100 times you said it. The author should know that's not how you write compelling characters. Also, so many of the past villains become "good guys" and we're just supposed to accept that somehow. It doesn't even matter cause none of them really even do anything interesting. I think only Magma, Tsukasa and Hyoga were properly redeemed, just barely, if you can even call it that. But again, they only do anything when the plot needs it. Tsukasa especially feels like an incredibly wasted character considering he was the first antagonist of this series. I feel like it could've been great if the characters of Ryusui and Tsukasa were merged somehow. These are pretty major flaws imo. Dr. STONE is a very plot-driven series, not character-driven. Personally, I prefer the latter more. But ideally, you want a balance of both. Despite its flaws the series is pretty unique and I'm not gonna just randomly stop watching it. Call it the sunk cost fallacy or whatever. But I'm not gonna look past its flaws either. I just feel disappointed in what Dr. STONE could've been. |
| Suika is a testament to how much time spent learning science has been throughout this series. All that she managed to do by herself in the world is just absolutely peak. What an episode. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| What an episode, probably the best Dr Stone episode of them all so far. You can only imagine being in Suika's position, especially at her young age, all alone in the world and going through a huge amount of trial and error to be able to round up all of her friends and being able to decipher the notes Senku had on him in order to make new revival fluid. I wouldn't blame anyone if being in this position would break you mentally, but it's all the more reason to applaud Suika for her strong willpower to keep on trying and trying, even when staring at the face of failure time and time again. After 7 years, she was finally successful in making revival fluid and she chose to revive Senku first. Their reunion was VERY touching and emotional, that's for damn sure. Not only that, but Suika herself looks so beautiful, which is another reminder of how long it has taken her to get to this position now. It's another reason as to why I love this series. Here's hoping the last episode ends this cour on a high note! =D |
Reply to HistoricalMaize
@Matt_King
Sure, but she is not just reading. She is surviving by herself in the middle of the forest. Those damaged glasses should not make up for all of this, but if this is the only thing, then, I am not personally bothered by it.
Sure, but she is not just reading. She is surviving by herself in the middle of the forest. Those damaged glasses should not make up for all of this, but if this is the only thing, then, I am not personally bothered by it.
@HistoricalMaize Wasn't she already sort of doing that prior to meeting Senku? If anything the precision needed for reading is significantly more of a challenge than seeing large plant life and moving animals. Either way, it's definitely doable by just holding the pieces of broken glasses up to her eyes. The faces she and Chelsea make are mostly just for exaggeration and humor like most other faces the characters make. If you actually refer back to season 1 episode 11 they show you her vision and it is enough that she needs to squint (causes the faces that are embarrassing to her) but tbh it's kind of manageable? Even a small amount of vision correction is probably enough for her to read and survive in a forest when she grew up around wildlife anyway. |
| Yes...I ate 5 slices of pizza...those mozzarella sticks were good too...Yes, I'm lactose intolerant, what about it?? |
| I like this part in the manga so much, in the anime it was so cool, I love you Suika, congratulations for trying so hard, congratulations |
| hello, just a brazilian boy who likes anime |
| bro, thanks god she knows how to read |
| This was a beautiful episode. Suika's perseverance has elevated her to my favourite character of this show. |
| Cried two episodes in a row. Great character development for Suika <3 |
| Imagine how boring this world would be without Japan - a comment at youtube |
| dayum i thought suika's solitary story gonna be like half an episode. and got enough of hearing dayo again and again. but man that ending was fkin amazing and wholesome. previous episode i predicted she's gonna make the revival fluid when she's in her 20's or so. pretty impressive she did that in 7 years. and looks like the sience team gonna be senku-chrome-suika now. wonder if she's the same age as kohaku now. need to look into their ages. |
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Reply to yellowheartren
We have strayed SO FAR from the original premise of a semi-believable afternoon science club, through "streamlining" and oversimplification and fastforwarding, not to mention straight-up shounen, to whatever this was, I just can't even. The warning at the end seems completely pointless and superfluous at this point, because nobody could even attempt to follow any "science" anymore.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
I'll tear the third paper and put it away.
Yeah, sure, that's just how science works, right? Sorry not sorry but even a willing suspension of disbelief can only stretch so far. And it'd gotten well past breaking point several times already. Now with little Suika, who couldn't even distinguish faces without her glasses, is suddenly reading tightly packed pages of science, following instructions to create revival fluid.... after who knows how much time of searching up and down for the last remnants of the batch they did have. And suddenly in all that time, time actually passes and it's visible and she gets to grow up. Right.
On top of all this, the emotional manipulation is way too obvious.
| @yellowheartren Vision issues doesn't make everything blurry automatically, it depends on distance. Suika is most likely extremely near sighted, so everyone she looks at has blurry faces, but hold the paper close enough and she can still just barely read it. Not to mention she still has part of her lenses which affect how the light goes into her eyes. Not to mention that it would take 1 year PER attempt to try and get revival fluid. The area they were fighting in wasn't THAT large, by foot she probably could've explored enough of it to find everyone and realize the revival fluid was all gone in less than a year. |
| I like to watch some anime, I like to talk about some anime, I dislike wars over some anime, but more than anything I love to live my life, anime is an enjoyable and entertaining addition onto my life but it's not my whole life. |
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@Fabio_R according to wiki
Age
12 (Chapter 99)
18 (Chapter 196)
she is 18 years old now so legal adult right?
Age
12 (Chapter 99)
18 (Chapter 196)
she is 18 years old now so legal adult right?
| @deg Really? I thought she was like 8-10 years old? Interesting, also, how is she 18 if 7 years past? Just hasn't hit her birthday yet? |
| I like to watch some anime, I like to talk about some anime, I dislike wars over some anime, but more than anything I love to live my life, anime is an enjoyable and entertaining addition onto my life but it's not my whole life. |
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