Kimi to Boku no Saigo no Senjou, Aruiwa Sekai ga Hajimaru Seisen Season II Episode 12 Discussion

OK, this shit has finally ended.

With no deaths, literally all talking, significant action at all, and with the shitty animation, this season was like a nightmare. I really loved the first season, but it's sad that I have to give this one a low score.

Maybe I'll give this season a 4(bad) or lower.

I want either this season to be re-animated or a third season with a different, faithful studio this time.

yeah, this one... S1 was ok 6/10... S2 i'm giving the same rating 6/10. i personally can't see any improvements from the first episodes released before the hiatus in Aug 2024 till now... shrug... they're all decent enough... the CGA magic effects are still great work. honestly that IS the best part visually in both seasons. character design basically is meh. good but meh. Alice is obviously tig ol biddy bait for tweens to fap to. blatantly. she's that peculiar blend of yandere and tsundere that creeps up now and again in anime tropedom. 'i hate you and beat you up and obsess about killing and defeating you. but i wuuv you! and anybody else that tries to kill you will die too!!!' she's an airhead bimbo with too much mojo and actually babbles out her dirty/obsessive/kinky thoughts at inappropriate moments... but only her personal attendant Rin ever EVER catches on to them... even when Alice clearly says them in public.

Sisbell... sigh... i'm not even going to bother. too shallow to for me to even take a moment to analyze her character.

Elletear... worthless character... so stupidly shallow and vain and bitching about being a weak mage when she's a princess and potential queen with every privilege that includes? do the average everyday waitresses, floor moppers, street sweepers, garbage men, hotel maids, all those people NOT in the mage military with strong enough astral spirits get treated like dirty trash bottom of the fishtank citizens? no. they're not. abdicate your princessdom. go be a commoner. find a guy to marry and hump and pump out some kids and live a real life. or get a real job or whatever. why hang out in an ivory tower and growing up like she did? ya got two other sisters, Alice who is obviously the drawn to be queen character. same hair body stature and power level as their mom. Sisbell the obviously secret police investigator type reading the past character. shrug.

also, who are their gdam daddies? three girls. only one looks even REMOTELY like their mom. i bitched about this in S1 Forums. who impregnated the queen three times? 1 guy? 2 guys? 3? makes ZERO sense.

Iska. Kobayashi Yuusuke really never should have taken this part. he should have stuck with Subaru and Senku and Arthur Boyle.

Captain Mismis is nothing but comedy relief. busty. cute. short. cuddly. clutzy. stupid. Shiraki Nao even makes Mismis SOUND like a little girl who isn't even anywhere NEAR puberty. let alone leading a supposedly elite military unit.

ughh... this franchise does NOT deserve a 3rd Season. let it die right here and now. just... sit it on a shelf and exist as a warning to LN authors and anime studios to NOT do crap like this in the future.

@Rom-Com_lover That's what happens when Silver Link basically ditches this show for their other projects leaving Studio Palette to do their job for them.

I actually think this season wasn't half bad compared to S1 aside from the animation problems and the plot was at least a little better than S1 imo.

Was it? I don't know man. The season had some unnecessary romance, with Sisbell being clingy and Alice's jealousy. The chemistry between Alice and Iska felt more natural in season one. Then again, most of the season was just bullshit talking during the battle, and what's more messed up is that the whole Alice vs Iska battle happened in the background while Salinger was sprouting his past. The whole Imperial army's attack ended ambiguously. We weren't shown who won against whom; we just went straight to the aftermath. And about the plot, what was the plot? Bringing Sisbell to the castle? That's literally how the lore of this season began, and they just ended it with a cliffhanger.
Elletear going to the Imperial was the only thing that interested me in the whole season.

@KiliianSleipnir I mean, your points pretty much get all the issues with this series and are certainly valid but they're just maybe delivered a little bit too harshly, maybe?


The show has a lot of issues no doubt, but I think most of the issues are mostly a problem due to poor execution than anything else. For example the "fan service" this show has isn't inherently a problem so much as the show lets it's fan service get in the way of it's own plot. A prime example being Mismis, her being comedy relief from time to time isn't a problem and her design is fine enough even if it doesn't fit her role. The big problem is the fact that she did absolutely nothing aside from that this season and her "astral mage" side being basically a side note was flat out misuse of her character and a criminally bad decision. The author wrote a pretty meaningful twist for Mismis and hasn't really used it at all since S1 ended. She's even the "boss" of her team, meaning she SHOULD have a decent amount of skill right? Just imagine if she used her ability even once while in the Sovereignty, especially for a meaningful purpose, yet all she did was basically hold her gun while Jihn did all the fighting. Honestly she'd be fine if she was comedic, short, and obvious "fan service" as long as she's ACTUALLY useful and fits her role, not always being a "stand around and act cute" character.


Don't misunderstand I'm not trying to criticize your points, in fact I actually agree with almost all of it, I just personally have a different reason for having issue with those things. The only part I actually disagree with you on is about Kobayashi Yuusuke, he's is a voice actor, that's his job, actors will play characters they dislike or in series they dislike all the time, it's perfectly normal and expected. They do it because it's their job and because it's their job they'll put in effort even if they don't personally like it. If I was a voice actor and was offered a character role to play and had enough openings in my schedule I would take it, because it's work, it's income, and there's pretty much no reason not to take the job then. Most actors would do that, as unless it's something with a lot of moral issues associated with it. They'll take the work because they need to make their living just like the rest of us.

@MewsicMagic :D thanks for the intelligent and polite disagreements! the only counterpoint i see that needs to be pointed out. anime JVAs are nigh-on rockstars in their native land. ESPECIALLY those like Mr. Kobayashi who has not just one but TWO leading male/female roles in LONG running shows as i mentioned previously. also, i doubt he and his wife Uchiyama Yumi (also an anime VA) are hurting for cash and neither one is missing out on roles either. Mrs. U since the beginning of 2024 has had 23 roles. Rudeus Greyrat from Jobless Reincarnation is her only leading role though. Mr. K in the same time period has had 22 roles. 9 of those roles are leading male characters. so, Mr. K NOT having his name and voice attached to these two lackluster seasons most probably wouldn't have hurt him much, neither in the pocketbook nor dinging his reputation.

@KiliianSleipnir Well that's just the best idea I could give as it's really common to see voice actors take just about any role because it pays, one prime example being Alec Guinness who played Obi-wan in Star Wars 4-6, he hated Star Wars and yet he still worked on it and did his job really well. Another example from Star Wars is Harrison Ford when Disney did the rather disliked Star Wars 7-9 Movies, the main reason Disney killed off Han Solo was because Harrison Ford didn't even want to act in a sequel at all. I've seen Kana Hanazawa and Kitou Akari also do voice acting in quite a few anime that were really bad in terms of production to the point that would wonder how the heck it even happened at all. In any case I personally don't really care why they'd take such a role as that's their personal choice and they are free to make it. For me at end of the day all that I really care about is that they do good on their job voice acting in the show I'm watching as their job can be crucial in how enjoyable a show can be.