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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Awsome episode! Filled with action, we finally got to know what Konoe was, too. It was pretty interesting to see Hecate and Feccor appear at the scene. I want to know more about that plan, as it's obviously(?) related to Silver. |
| man, awesome indeed. it was so crazy with all that was happening. |
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| Crazy indeed, but amazing. I loved it, I was a bit worried when Shana had tears in her eyes, too. Looking forward to more. :D |
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| Pew, that was crazy, a lot has happened. I was so reliefed that Johan turned back to Yuji and didn't make him disappear.. Can't wait for more :D "This' Party's getting crazy!" |
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| Just like Margery, I don't know what's going on anymore. Johan actually came out from seal, that surprised me. With Pheles gone, now the Bal Masque appears. And when this happen, it made me happy. Kazumi already had too much moments with Yuji already~ |
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| Whoa...so much has happend. I was really worried that the reiji maigo will disappear or something like that when Johan came out from the seal and gave his power to Pheles. Loved this episode. Cant wait for more, cause there are a few questions that have to be answered now. |
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| It keeps getting better and better and also gives more meaning to the first slower episodes. Finally up to the first season's greatness again! |
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| 4th week in a row with an awesome episode. I, for one, forgive all the sins commited on the first half. |
| Interesting episode. Phele's entrance was great. Phele's second entrance was better. Hecate's entrance was best of all. So Hecate, with that insane attack power of her staff + the bat guy, who supposedly has some form of ultimate defense, attack a severely wounded Pheles, who just had a giant arm the size of her waist rip through her and drain her energy, and they couldn't even penetrate that wind aura she flies around in--and she wasn't even trying to defend....she was just ignoring them!... Sad though . . . the two most interesting characters are now gone (Pheles and Hecate), leaving next episode with the same ol Shana and (even worse) that tiring Yoshida.... Ah well, maybe they'll return soon.... |
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| great episode. those blocks, falling from the sky were hilarious. But finally when shana is closer to Yuji again, Kazumi can't shut her mouth and gets present from pheles. This "shakugan no shana", not "shakugan no shana constantly interupted by Yoshida Kazumi" >.< |
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Mathes said: lol Amen, quoted for truth. I can understand her character, Shana’s love rival, she had done nothing wrong and all that, but she perpetually buts in between Shana and Yuji. Though, the character development from the first half wasn’t too shabby at all. Then again, I don’t know what a drama romance without a love rival.This "shakugan no shana", not "shakugan no shana constantly interupted by Yoshida Kazumi" >.< |
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ChiBuki said: Mathes said: lol Amen, quoted for truth. I can understand her character, Shana’s love rival, she had done nothing wrong and all that, but she perpetually buts in between Shana and Yuji. Though, the character development from the first half wasn’t too shabby at all. Then again, I don’t know what a drama romance without a love rival.This "shakugan no shana", not "shakugan no shana constantly interupted by Yoshida Kazumi" >.< yeah, it's ok for her to appear too from time to time - even trying to get closer to Yuji, but it gets annoying after a while if she interrupts really every fucking episode. At the start she was only a side character - something that shana doesn't get bored, but now if she wouldn't realize that she has no chance (and it's good she does at least that) she's handled nearly equal with shana. |
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Mathes said: great episode. those blocks, falling from the sky were hilarious. But finally when shana is closer to Yuji again, Kazumi can't shut her mouth and gets present from pheles. This "shakugan no shana", not "shakugan no shana constantly interupted by Yoshida Kazumi" >.< Fighting geometry, a la Gurren Lagann. Heh. Also, agreed with many here. I'm sick of Yoshida, it's always the same thing. Hopefully the treasure will give her a interesting side. |
overfunk said: Fighting geometry, a la Gurren Lagann. Heh. Also, agreed with many here. I'm sick of Yoshida, it's always the same thing. Hopefully the treasure will give her a interesting side. Hopefully the treasure will kill her in an instant - or better: let her become a torch and slowly disappear from the others memory. :D And when we're just at it: What could that hogue be? I guess it's something that will make her able to fight to, since thats what she seems to wish for the most. (fighting bloody battles and dieing warrior death) |
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Mathes said: overfunk said: Fighting geometry, a la Gurren Lagann. Heh. Also, agreed with many here. I'm sick of Yoshida, it's always the same thing. Hopefully the treasure will give her a interesting side. Hopefully the treasure will kill her in an instant - or better: let her become a torch and slowly disappear from the others memory. :D And when we're just at it: What could that hogue be? I guess it's something that will make her able to fight to, since thats what she seems to wish for the most. (fighting bloody battles and dieing warrior death) haha, that would be a fate fitted for her... although, i think its probably another useless trinket like the first one she got to stay mobile in the fuzetsu... probably this time it will help her fight... although i seriously hope that doesnt happen |
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| Everything I could wish for in a Shana episode, absolutely fantastic. I was worried for a moment that they were going to try and pack too much into this episode, but they wrapped things up just in time! My guess is that the Hougu Yoshida got will be something that will allow her to support Yuji, if not outright fight with him. A healing charm or a shield of some sort perhaps? |
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| A wonderful episode indeed. When the first season ended, I was a bit disappointed at how Hecate had been "defeated," so I'm glad to see the return of the Bal Masque and will hopefully be getting some better closure this time. |
| Wow great ep. Lots of action and I thorougly enjoyed it. It was so crazy >_< |
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| I see yuji's training didn't help him at all except to scream, ask a few questions, and then almost pass out xD So I guess Bal Masque is in charge of the silver, which is pretty cool. For some reason I feel as though too much happened in one episode compared to everything else...but any was still good! |
Guidan said: If Margery doesn't realize that Bel Masque and the Silver are connected, someone better hit her...and hard. Also, it isn't possible to DO anything when you are being handled back and forth between two psychotic Crimson Denizens and have both a silver armored dude escaping from your gut and an effeminate boy trying to take control of you. I see yuji's training didn't help him at all except to scream, ask a few questions, and then almost pass out xD So I guess Bal Masque is in charge of the silver, which is pretty cool. That said, I somehow doubt Pheles's memento will be something usefull. If it is usefull, maybe it will be something that helps her realize when she's lost. Seriously, it's gotten to the point Kazumi's only purpose is to annoy or get in the way of Shana and Yuji's romantic moments. |
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Leon-Gun said: Also, it isn't possible to DO anything when you are being handled back and forth between two psychotic Crimson Denizens and have both a silver armored dude escaping from your gut and an effeminate boy trying to take control of you. He was able to DO something. Yuji listened when margery told him to get off his ass and help with the spell on the silver. And he had half of the silvers body sticking out then! That aside you can still not deny the fact yuji would have done nothing either way. Example A - Pheles first appears, circles yuji in the wind or what ever and he just sits there screaming, while she patted him on the head. Unless your going to say her force stopped him from moving, which I doubt, he was just as useless without a giant silver knight sticking out of him. And example B would be yet again when the real pheles appeared, yuji screamed for her to get away and did nothing, nothing else was going on during this time either. Either he has learned nothing from training or was just full of fear. At least that's how I look at it. Meh it was just a comment, if I wanted to do this I would have started a topic. xD |
| so much stuff happened....y couldnt they do this b4? Like 4 episodes were used just over sum stupid quarre with Shana and Yoshida fightingl over Yuji who didnt even notice anything.... geez... Well at least they gave us alot of action scenes which were rlly good |
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Guidan said: I think my point in pointing out all the events was that he OBVIOUSLY would be frozen of fear by the bloody silver armored guy that was trying to escape from inside him. I think it was obvious from the several training sessions that Yuji doesn't have the heart of a warrior in him. The few times he's able to muster up courage where the times Shana herself was in danger. It's totally in-character for him to freeze up when he's the one in danger.Leon-Gun said: Also, it isn't possible to DO anything when you are being handled back and forth between two psychotic Crimson Denizens and have both a silver armored dude escaping from your gut and an effeminate boy trying to take control of you. He was able to DO something. Yuji listened when margery told him to get off his ass and help with the spell on the silver. And he had half of the silvers body sticking out then! That aside you can still not deny the fact yuji would have done nothing either way. Example A - Pheles first appears, circles yuji in the wind or what ever and he just sits there screaming, while she patted him on the head. Unless your going to say her force stopped him from moving, which I doubt, he was just as useless without a giant silver knight sticking out of him. And example B would be yet again when the real pheles appeared, yuji screamed for her to get away and did nothing, nothing else was going on during this time either. Either he has learned nothing from training or was just full of fear. At least that's how I look at it. Meh it was just a comment, if I wanted to do this I would have started a topic. xD Of course, I'm not going to keep arguing over Anime mechanics. Simple to say, Yuji is a coward when he's the one in actual danger and always freezes up (with Shana having to bail him out). |
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| Point taken and I completely agree, he is a coward. I didn't think he was that much of a coward to not use something he learned against pheles in his first encounter though, but even then he fails. Funny how they worked on dodging for a couple of episodes though and all he does is freeze up lol, they should have worked on some blocking technique if there is one xD |
Nataki said: My guess is that the Hougu Yoshida got will be something that will allow her to support Yuji, if not outright fight with him. A healing charm or a shield of some sort perhaps? I'm more hoping for something that will point her in the right direction, i.e. Ike-kun. |
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deli53 said: so much stuff happened....y couldnt they do this b4? Like 4 episodes were used just over sum stupid quarre with Shana and Yoshida fightingl over Yuji who didnt even notice anything.... geez... Well at least they gave us alot of action scenes which were rlly good I also thought that too much happened in this one episode and it got hard to follow. It would have indeed been better to drop some of the shallow stuff from the first episodes and use that time to spread the important stuff so that you can get it bit by bit and not being hit by a chunk of information. (the events in this episode felt like being hit by that giant cube XD) I don't dislike Yoshida anymore since she seems to get abit more mature, she also seems to understand deep down inside that she is no match for Shana, still she just can't stop hoping. =/ Would be nice if she would finally completely understand her place and make Ike-kun happy. :P Loved the *Shana catches Yuji* scene btw. ^^ |
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canis said: I don't think there was an effective way of conveying all this information beforehand, since They couldn't have showed "The Silver" earlier else they would have ruined the surprise appearance, and they had already showed plenty of hints about Konoe already (There were a few scenes in which they discussed how they had "fooled the Flame Haze", not to mention showing the bracelet, Konoe's complete resemblance of Hecate and the fact she was the first one to notice Pheles presence and get surprised about it). Bel Masque's intentions had already been exposed in the past season too. The only information that could have been relayed a bit earlier may have been some of the Pheles backstory, and even then that was shown in the last episode, not in this one. So, the fact it was confusing was because there were a lot of different enemies frantically trying to obtain the same thing.I also thought that too much happened in this one episode and it got hard to follow. It would have indeed been better to drop some of the shallow stuff from the first episodes and use that time to spread the important stuff so that you can get it bit by bit and not being hit by a chunk of information. (the events in this episode felt like being hit by that giant cube XD) |
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| I WANT MOAR SHANA!!!!!!!! T_T Awesome episode. Felt like soooo much went on really fast. Hope the next episode clears up some of the questions I have. o.o |
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WinterNightsFall said: I WANT MOAR SHANA!!!!!!!! T_T Awesome episode. Felt like soooo much went on really fast. Simply amazing... I will not bother saying anything else to add to the story, since everyone already has used up 2-3 paragraphs with numerous quotes already :P Sooo many question, only one answer... |
| It's a bit confusing and it could be better. This kind of episodes should repeated more often though.... Unfortunately, next episode is not as interesting..... I want more Bal Masque....and I will get it for sure..... I hope Yuji didn't lost his wonderful power of existence....(he shouldn't since he didn't in the novels) have to watch my weekly gundam 00 now!!! :) |
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wakka9ca said: Well, I don't think they are following the novels to the letter, so it could happen.It's a bit confusing and it could be better. This kind of episodes should repeated more often though.... Unfortunately, next episode is not as interesting..... I want more Bal Masque....and I will get it for sure..... I hope Yuji didn't lost his wonderful power of existence....(he shouldn't since he didn't in the novels) |
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| woot, I'm glad Yuji didn't end up disappearing for good. And everyone's pretty much said what I wanted to say. |
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| awesome episode. i agree with a lot of people here, specially with the ones that think that yoshida is just a hindrance for the weekly shows. she appears and ruins the mood in every episode (most of them), plus she is always interfering with things that she should not even be caring about. the shana x yuuji moment was total win. also too much happened this episode, so action packed, and such a fast paced episode. i loved it. i am getting back into the action animes, yahoo |
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| A great episode. It looks like everyone pretty much beaten to death of what was the great highlights of this episode. So I really have nothing to contribute, but I all I have to wonder is when are we going to see a new opening and ending. |
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DivineTrinity said: Somehow, I think they should stick to this one. All the characters in it are current, and the music is kickass.A great episode. It looks like everyone pretty much beaten to death of what was the great highlights of this episode. So I really have nothing to contribute, but I all I have to wonder is when are we going to see a new opening and ending. |
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Leon-Gun said: wakka9ca said: Well, I don't think they are following the novels to the letter, so it could happen.It's a bit confusing and it could be better. This kind of episodes should repeated more often though.... Unfortunately, next episode is not as interesting..... I want more Bal Masque....and I will get it for sure..... I hope Yuji didn't lost his wonderful power of existence....(he shouldn't since he didn't in the novels) He still has the Reiji Maigo, so I think it should be obvious that his power gets restored at midnight again as usual. |
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| There were little stuff happening in the earlier episodes and now suddenly too much stuff happening...Ok... |
luinthoron said: Ah yes, I totally forgot the exact way it's power worked. Yeah, he can't lose his Power of Existence else they contradict themselves.Leon-Gun said: wakka9ca said: Well, I don't think they are following the novels to the letter, so it could happen.It's a bit confusing and it could be better. This kind of episodes should repeated more often though.... Unfortunately, next episode is not as interesting..... I want more Bal Masque....and I will get it for sure..... I hope Yuji didn't lost his wonderful power of existence....(he shouldn't since he didn't in the novels) He still has the Reiji Maigo, so I think it should be obvious that his power gets restored at midnight again as usual. |
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| Even though it was something that was pretty easy to see coming, I did not, so the Johann coming out thing was a genuinely awesome moment for me. The last few episodes have been really good :) |
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| Truly awesome episode,that was the first in months to have me hanging on the edge all the time!! |
| wow i was really worried that we were gonna have to deal with Johan for a whole epi. thank god yuji came back (for now). i wonder what Kazumi got from Pheles |
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| yoshida-san, please leave. |
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| wow.. a lot happened in this episode.. even Johan came out.. |
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| What a rush. These last two episodes are fast and chaotic what a turn around compare to the 1st half. |
| This is going to be a wild ride... |
| yhea like we didn't see that coming with hecate. ne |
| Wow like marco said, too many things are happening all at once. Its getting hard to keep up haha.. Epic episodes! looks like im powering through this season too |
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