| What do you guys think could be the "next big thing" after Isekai genre will slowly die out? Why do you think that could be? |
| Isekai is new age copium replacing oldschool religions, don't think it's gonna die anytime soon. |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| Not sure but i have a feeling it won't be anything positive. |
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| It's probably going to be something worse than isekai. :C |
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| I do not expect anything to overcome isekai as reality gets harder for people based on inflation. |
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| Whatever it is, it will likely be combined with isekai as the previous popular genre/trend/theme already has. |
| Can we just go back to traditional fantasy ? |
| Either battle shonen or something moe related |
| To be quite honest, Isekai is never going to die, it may diminish but one good show will shoot it right back up. Cant do nothing about it, everybody loves Truck-kun end of the day, their followers are vast and can fill the oceans if need be. If they were accepted as a character on MAL, they would be the most loved. Anyways, jokes and isekai notes aside, if i had to bet some green on the next genre to cover some Isekai smoke, itd definitely be something Battle related [War], id love to see some more Militiary oriented shows, but who knows?? If not Battle Shounen, next bet would be Fantasy with Mystery elements to them, that would make a killing in the current audience of anime as a whole [Netflix and stuff] |
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| Fantasy will always be the most popular genre, since being able to portray fantasy worlds and fantastical powers decently enough without needing an enormous budget is the added value of animation over live-action. I hard disagree with this (I do believe in the added value animation provides over live-action even in realistic settings like CGDCT), but that's what most people think and it's understandable. A new trend that recently came out is the reincarnation/time loop/time travel but within the same fantasy world, unlike isekai which requires that the MC comes from Japan. |
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| the multiverse time travel plot like how marvel movies are |
| Keeping with the theme of escapism, I think romcoms will be the next big thing should the isekai boom ever end. Today's world is full of a lot of lonely people. |
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| Assuming the situation is that Isekai is still relevant but it's just been done to death then maybe you could just distill isekai to its core. I feel like the base appeal of isekai is that 1) You get a second chance at life, often with great advantages 2) You live a comfortable existence in a interesting world. The first point is pretty much present in some form or another in most power fantasies, but in isekai specifically it feels like quite often it's given away for free, you don't have to pay a terrible price for your power or slowly earn it, hence the comfort aspect. keeping that in mind maybe there could come a genre which I will call "comfortable fantasy" (patent pending) where the point is to really lean on that comfortable power fantasy aspect. Maybe you could have a story about a person who can change his past freely if he doesn't like the outcome, hell, maybe he can sort of even influence the outcome itself without worrying about the chain of events that lead him there and the show is structured kind of like saiki kusuo no psinan where the person wants to live a semi normal life despite this insane world changing power. So yeah, I guess the idea is that you don't need the isekai to do what isekai protagonists do, you can just give your protagonist a broken special ability and live a comfortable life. |
| For me that's hard to say, the funny thing the Isekai genre started all the way back to the 80's with Aura Battler Dunbine, and Super Dimension Century Orguss and yet the genre didn't become a fad until Sword Art Online started the craze in 2012/2013. So we came a long way for Isekai genre to become mainstream. So my takeaway is that a lesser well-known genre which started back in the 70's or 80's and probably in waiting until many years later when a certain modern-day anime jump-start that forgotten genre. One loose footnote: as much as I credit Aura Battler Dunbine for jumpstarting the modern isekai, it seems that today's isekai fanbase do not give Dunbine (nor any other classic pre-SAO isekai anime titles) the same love it deserve from today's fan despite the fact that it's directed by Yoshiyuki Tomino. |
| Nothing because we get NTHE. It is that simple. |
| Whatever it is it can't be as bad as the blandness of isekais right? Right??? |
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Nothing because we get NTHE. It is that simple.
| @DesuMaiden I'm going to regret this, but it's bothering me: What the hell is the NTHE?? |
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| セカイ系 Sekai-kei / World style https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/セカイ系 Google translating a wiki page Sekai-kei (Sekai-kei, Sekai-kei) is a type of story in Japanese subculture fields such as manga, anime, games, and light novels. Since it is an Internet meme that has spread mainly through the Internet without a clear definition, there are various theories about its meaning, but it has been variously referred to in sociology, modern literature theory, subculture theory, etc. First appearance and early usage[edit] The term Sekai Kei first appeared in late October 2002, on an Internet website run by Ikumu Tsukiya (Kanakado[1], Purunie)[2][3], a juvenile porn author. It is said to have appeared in "Prunie Bookmark" [4][5]. Initially, this term was used to ridicule and exclude elements that were frequently seen in anime and light novel works of the time, as well as the works of peers who used them easily. Ikumu Tsukiya said, ``It's just a word that one person uses without permission, so it doesn't really mean much.'' ``I use it with a slight mockery in relation to Eva-like works (intense monologues).'' ``These works are unique. As a result, there was a tendency for the narrator to express his own understanding with the exaggerated word ``sekai,'' which led to the name ``sekai-kei.''[5] The works were thought to be strongly influenced by the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion.[4] For this reason, it was also called ``Post-Evangelion Syndrome'' at the time.[Note 1][7] Eventually, the phrase ``Sekai-kei'' spread as an Internet meme, and is said to have become popular in the first half of 2003.[8] This term took on a positive tone in the mid-2000s, when critic Hiroki Higashi, Katsushi Ota, who was the editor-in-chief of Kodansha's literary magazine Faust, and Yoshihiro Shiozawa of Hayakawa Shobo published a paperback label. It was after ``Real Fiction of Next-Generation Writers'' and other publications strategically cited it. However, due to the business circumstances of each label, the works that were defined were not consistent, and works that were initially defined as ``sekai-kei'' were no longer categorized. In later years, Masaru Maejima, who examined the discourse of this period, said that under the influence of ``Neon Genesis Evangelion,'' giant robots, beautiful fighting girls, detectives, etc. were created from the late 1990s to the 1990s. , a group of works that depict the self-consciousness of young people (especially men) while introducing elements and genre codes that are highly compatible with otaku culture into their works.''[9] Therefore, its usage varies depending on the narrator and context, and can be positive or negative. Sekai-kei as defined by Hiroki Higashi et al.[edit] It is said that the term ``Sekai-kei,'' which was circulated on the Internet, began to appear in print publications around 2004 [Note 2], but since then, it has been discussed in various ways outside of the Internet. Become. At that time, what was frequently referenced was the editor's note for ``Namijo Genron: The Critical Point of Bishoujo Games,'' which was published mainly by Hiroki Higashi, who was attracting attention as a critic who discussed subculture, and Ken Maejima. He was also the editor of this doujinshi. According to him, Sekai-kei is ``a problem of a small relationship (``you and me'') centered on the hero (me) and heroine (you), without any concrete middle terms, and ``the crisis of the world''. A group of works that are directly connected to abstract big issues such as ``the end of the world'', and representative works include Makoto Shinkai's anime ``Voices of the Star'', Shin Takahashi's manga ``The Last Weapon Girlfriend'', and Mizuto Akiyama's novel ``Illya''. He gave three positive reviews, including ``Sora no Sora'' and ``UFO Summer.''[11] A "world crisis" refers to a final war on a global or cosmic scale, or an invasion of the earth by aliens, and "without any concrete middle ground" means that nations, international organizations, societies, and the people involved It refers to a situation in which the actions and sense of crisis of the main characters are depicted in sync with the ``world crisis'' without being depicted much of the time.[12] The three realms "You and Me/Social realm/World crisis" that appear in the Sekai-kei schema are respectively "Near view/Medium view/Distant view" (according to Minoru Betsuyaku) and "Imaginary world/Symbolic world/Real world". It is also sometimes referred to in conjunction with terms such as (by Jacques Lacan) [13]. This kind of ``story that methodically erases the social realm'' is said to be one of the characteristics of Sekai-kei works [14], and Sekai-kei works are characterized by the fact that they turn a blind eye to the social realm and do not depict economic or historical issues at all. was often criticized.[15][16] In other words, during this period, Sekai-kei was a work based on ``the imagination of an overly self-conscious protagonist who speculatively and intuitively connects to the ``end of the world'' without having an image of the world or society.'' It is said that there is [17]. In these world-class works, the fate of the world is primarily in the hands of the heroine. The character arrangement of ``a beautiful girl who is destined to fight (battle beautiful girl) and a helpless boy who can do nothing but watch over her'' is also said to be a common structure in the Sekai genre.[18] Parallel to the world crisis, the romance between this hurt girl (= ``you'') and the helpless boy (= ``me'') is often depicted as a school romantic comedy, and for this reason, ``Kimi and Boku Kei''. It was also called. Furthermore, he goes on to say very rudely that ``Sekai-kei'' is an easy (and therefore powerful) combination of ``school romantic comedy'' and ``giant robot science fiction,'' in other words, it combines the two most popular genres of ``anime = game'' and raises the purity to its fullest. Atsushi Sasaki has also explained that this miniaturized world of pure love of ``you and me'' and the megalomaniacal ``crisis of the world'' are synchronized. The strangeness with which the story progressed was considered to be a characteristic of Sekai-kei. There continues to be a view that Neon Genesis Evangelion had a strong influence on these usages of "Sekai-kei" [12][20], but on the other hand, "Kimi to Boku" + "World Crisis" It has also been proposed that this structure appeared as a method unique to gal games/adult games.[21] As mentioned above, these world-related works have been criticized for not depicting the social realm, and anime director Goro Taniguchi has said, ``If you over-incorporate things like laws and morals, it will become too realistic. That may be true, but it doesn't bother me (lol).I understand that feeling, but I'm the type of person who thinks about ``society'', so I incorporate social elements into my works. It is said that [22] Kumi Saori, who was a leading writer for Shueisha Cobalt Bunko, wrote a commentary on a novel that was considered world-class at the time, in which a boy does not fight but lets a girl do it for him, is loved by the girl, and ultimately loses the girl. This scenario is nothing more than ``self-centered opportunism and a cowardly abdication of responsibility,'' [23] and critic Tsunehiro Uno said, ``By being immersed in maternal approval, they are not even aware of their own choices. [24] On the other hand, it is also used by genre-proper writers and readers to criticize and mock border-crossing works with strong literary elements, ``purunie bookmarks.'' It is similar to the usage in . However, since the late 2000s, the definition has become dominant as a commercial promotional phrase related to light novels, and the number of cross-border works has decreased, so opportunities for it to be used as Internet slang have decreased. |
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| My guess is regression style, tower style or levelling style series. Pretty much if more Korean adaptations get picked up |
| Seems like Reincarnation trope is already doing that. Isekai split into reincarnation power fantasy and Leveling/skill-up ones.../ It's basically the same as isekai BUT the makers get to save another $5 by not having to animate those 3 frames of truck-kun hitting MC-kun. |
| Isekai about a knight from Middle Earth falling into modern Japan. |
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| Fast food never dies. Just look at United States of America, the father. |
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| Regression has really been picking up steam recently. |
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| Truthfully... We don't know, the best candidate would be the "I was banished to (insert guild or hero party) because (insert weak skill) yadda yadda then became the strongest with a harem of cute girls. |
| Anime is an epic fail...to begin with tbh. And industrial civilization will epically fail when NTHE arrives... |
| I will never watch a manwha adaptation |
| Isekai will never be replaced, and there will never be another "next big genre". Why? All entertainment media are escapism, and isekai is the pinnacle of escapism. It doesn't get any better than this. |
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Isekai will never be replaced, and there will never be another "next big genre".
Why? All entertainment media are escapism, and isekai is the pinnacle of escapism. It doesn't get any better than this.
Why? All entertainment media are escapism, and isekai is the pinnacle of escapism. It doesn't get any better than this.
| @BigBoyAdvance and you dont think NTHE aka Near Term Human Extinction will arrive? It will, of course... |
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