RWBY: Hyousetsu Teikoku Episode 11 Discussion

Animemes_Enjoyer said:
This is my first ever time posting on a forum...I dunno what to expect below

CodeBlazeFate said:
This is marginally better than Volume 5 (the worst RWBY has ever been) but worse than V7 and even V1.

xZabuzax said:

I will admit that V5 in the OG RWBY is indeed bad, I didn't like it either but I'll be honest, I did enjoy V5 more than this anime. I don't know why V1 receives this much hate though, it's not that bad IMHO, it may have wonky animation, the budget wasn't that good there but it does have nice music, nice comedy, and nice character development (something this anime clearly lacked) and it had very nice choreography in the action scenes too, especially that part with monkey boy and Penny.

CodeBlazeFate said:
Volume 1 has a lot of the problems this does in terms of rushed development, and that awful Jaune arc, and yeah the visuals are still kinda bad even tho some of the fights are good (at least the ones not involving grimm) but yeah V1 at least had some fun humor here and there. This anime is even dumber than V1 and with almost none of the charm or humor or chemistry to make it palatable.

V5 and this anime both waste a lot of time but in different ways. It's just that V5 also ruins some characters and kills any and all momentum its first two eps and the previous volume all built while also being really dumb, whereas this show doesn't have such stakes placed upon it, even if it isn't much better.

xZabuzax said:
I've been shitting on this anime since the very first episode but finally, this is the only episode I enjoyed from the entire anime, this episode had wonky animation here and there but it had pretty decent animation as well, obviously, all the budget went to this episode, the OST was pretty nice too so yeah, it was a decent episode overall.

Too bad the rest of the episodes was a piece of crap though so my rating won't change but I can finally praise something about this anime. Why on earth did it take this long to get decent? goddamn it. Whatever, 1 more episode to go so I can finally get this crap over with, I praise the things that deserve to be praised so I'm praising this episode, the rest of the episodes are garbage, unfortunately.

CodeBlazeFate said:
The asspulls and contrivances just keep coming and coming and the anime has some abysmal moments again, but at least there is some good sakuga sometimes here so it's not quite as badly produced as eps 6, 9 or 10. Still, man this arc somehow wound up being just as broken as the V1 retread stuff. We get a decent new INS, but man, I know this is a dubiously canon "canon-adjacent' midquel thing, but busting out the Silver Eyes when she didn't even know she could do that until accidentally/instinctively unleashing it SEVERAL MONTHS AND TWO VOLUMES AFTER THE EVENTS OF THIS SERIES AND WHAT IT COVERS is even worse than all the inconsistencies present here. Couldn't they find a better way to hint at her having those powers? Fuck this show. Can't wIt for the V2 retread episode to suck, too.

This is marginally better than Volume 5 (the worst RWBY has ever been) but worse than V7 and even V1.

xZabuzax said:

Yeah I get your point, that Jaune arc has wonky animation too and it wasn't that good either but I did love the character development and the resolution between Jaune and Pyrrha, that character development alone is better than any character development I've seen on this anime, this barely had character development at all which didn't help.

Vol 1 has some great things going for it too apart from the wonky animation because honestly, it did have wonky animation, they where on a limited budget too but I do praise Vol 1 for the things it did correctly which are: character development, music, hype moments, comedy and the awesome fight choreography which is the thing I love the most about the RWBY franchise, this anime lacked all that, apart from episode 11 which has nice fight choreography too but it's still inferior than what Vol 1 provided IMHO, this anime lacks everything else I mentioned and I didn't like that one bit.

Vol 1 managed to entertain me since episode 1, even with the wonky animation, I was invested in Vol 1 since the 1st episode since this one did a magnificent job with the character development and it made me bond with the characters quickly, this anime failed miserable at it and had me bored 99% of the time, that crappy story with the dream arc simply dragged for way too long too and that crappy animation in the fight scenes wasn't helping in the slightest either, plus no character development, I didn't bond with a single character here, plus crappy directing, even a crappy story can be saved with a good director but even that failed here.

So much things went wrong with this anime.

GodOfWolves said:


I AGREE so much with the silver eyes thing I despiseddddd that! they crammed so much future plot from legit 6 seasons/volumes into 1 single season and it felt so cheap and rushed and dumb because of it, not seeing the OG show might of made it somewhat barrable, but its like they're trying to piss of the original fanbase with this nonsense.

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I also agree with zabuzax on this one, vol 1 was great, and despite the low budget animation, i was invested in the characters as well, the comedy made me laugh, not oh thats kinda funny, or cute, but genuinely laugh and feel good about it - they even played with the animation for a few jokes as well, a trip fall in the middle of a grimm battle honestly made me laugh when i was rewatching the first scorpion battle to compare it to this shows scorpion battle - had forgot so many small moments like that its probably time for a legit rewatch

vol 5 was weird if thats the one with the giant robot fights, it was weird like legend of korra and the giant mana laser beam battle bullshit --- but even season 5 was funner than this trainwreck icequeendom was in a lot of ways, so much story was wasted up until this point...

like zubu said, better directing or even some comedy or decent character development could of changed so much of that but everyones discussions were not funny nor in the least bit real dialogue it was empty and hollow words and insults and jokes and objectives that amounted to cardboard cutout characters that im totally unattached to in anyway possible and thats just that, a terrible shame, but one that can't be fixed this late into the show or dreamworld game whatever... - eitherway, season 5 1 and 7 was deff better, and i dont know why you dont like 7 either, it wasnt that bad either

GodOfWolves said:


Well i finally made it to EP 12 and it was a pretty good ep as you said, ill wait for the next, my only complaints was 2 things - ruby using her silver eyes, that felt really anti-climatic and kinda lame - and the blake and weiss thing with racism bla bla was a bit okward and not really anything, from this anime itself to back it up, but overall, it did halfway redeem it for a few minutes cause i almost dropped my score to a 2 - but its sticking to a 4 for now, only one ep to go once the last dub releases lol

But holy hell this was a nightmare to get through, pun intended, the nightmare was too much effort and too many long story plotlines crammed into the first season, really made all the progress feel cheap but that's looking at it as even a side story ---- if i totally remove the idea of OG rwby and purely look at it as a hypothetical discussion about OG rwby and using a dream to hypothetically discuss the teams issues, it does make it seem a little less shit

Overall i don't believe the people giving it a 9-10, even if they haven't seen OG rwby , which they should, i don't see it getting over 8 legit-ly, cuz if they did see the original they'd automatically take off 2 points - but so many eps were so slow and bad like you said, i personally couldn't see ever giving it above a 5, the last ep will determine it, but im thinking its gonna stick to a 3-4 for now...