Ruined by shameless pandering

Scordolo said:
"Anime is intended for JAPANESE AUDIENCE"
And there are plenty of Anime that have completely different settings and places but have Japanese names.
And how is it "pandering"? Looks like an Sjw just discovered this word.

Scordolo said:
"Anime is intended for JAPANESE AUDIENCE"
And there are plenty of Anime that have completely different settings and places but have Japanese names.
And how is it "pandering"? Looks like an Sjw just discovered this word.

Hauntholic said:
To put it bluntly, it's wish fulfillment for ugly asian men. I'm noticing a recent trend of anime trying to shoehorn Japan and Japanese people into every possible world and setting, no matter how divorced from the actual setting it is. It's set in medieval Europe and is about pirates. Why would a princess have a knight named Yukimaru? And why is her character written to be obsessed with his "black eyes" with no explanation, as if that's actually desirable by default?

It's not that they're not allowed to have creative freedom with writing their own script, but that this is clearly just pandering to the domestic audience (asian men) in a way that breaks the 4th wall and ruins the quality of the story. In older anime we didn't see this as much, nowadays you'll be hard pressed to find any fiction coming out of Japan that isn't full of this form of shameless pandering. I've seen 1 ep and I don't even want to watch more.

Animillion said:
I haven’t watched this yet. I was just wondering if someone could tell me if Yukimaru has a big role. Like is he a main character with good amount of screen time or is he a supporting character with less of a role?

Gween_Gween said:
lmao the mental gymnastics you have to do in order to make this conclusion are incredible. what if I say that it is a western female fantasy? fena is between the west (Us) and the asians (BTS), both are fighting for Fena, kind of like the US market is fighting to keep the western girls in the western market, and BTS is saving her
yeah that sounds absurd, like your post

RobertBobert said:


It amuses me that even when the show is obviously focused on female fantasy, people still complain that it is supposedly pandering for men.

Hauntholic said:

Nothing about the show is a female fantasy.

theGodde said:
This is as ridiculous as the Last Samurai being American, when the character he was based off was French, and barely played a role in the conflict being displayed in the film. That was a loosely adapted "true story" by Hollwood. Considering it was limited to being true, in this light fantasy universe with Samurai, a floating island, a mysterious island 'not raftel' that psychically advises Fena on how to find it, and a bunch of random famous historical Europeans bizarrely shoehorned into the plot, honestly I think the Japanese Samurai pirates are one of the lesser weird aspects of this story.

If we're thinking of this show being primarily to Japanese target audience, then it makes logical sense from a storytelling perspective to have the main characters be Japanese, with familiar technology and culture, and explore this world from their Japanese perspective.

ashley5891 said:
It's dumb but it's not going to spoil an anime.

Hauntholic said:

At least the movie is actually a true story. You can't say the same for any of the terrible pandering Japan does. It's like Japan has a major inferiority complex, so they're incapable of producing any work of fiction that doesn't somehow insert themselves not just in the "normal" way, but in the FULL ON wish fulfillment way. It's ruining anime that would otherwise be great.

theGodde said:
As an Australian who has watched a shit ton of hollywood garbage, what Japan's peddling isn't any different.
It seems to me like your own preconceived notions are ruining your immersion. Just consider it a "Japan-ism" or something. It's not worth stressing over.

Hauntholic said:

Wtf is BTS? Learn English and then get back to me.

SteelingMax said:
Behind The Scenes

theGodde said:
honestly they might even be referring to the boyband BTS lmao

Hauntholic said:
To put it bluntly, it's wish fulfillment for ugly asian men. I'm noticing a recent trend of anime trying to shoehorn Japan and Japanese people into every possible world and setting, no matter how divorced from the actual setting it is. It's set in medieval Europe and is about pirates. Why would a princess have a knight named Yukimaru? And why is her character written to be obsessed with his "black eyes" with no explanation, as if that's actually desirable by default?

It's not that they're not allowed to have creative freedom with writing their own script, but that this is clearly just pandering to the domestic audience (asian men) in a way that breaks the 4th wall and ruins the quality of the story. In older anime we didn't see this as much, nowadays you'll be hard pressed to find any fiction coming out of Japan that isn't full of this form of shameless pandering. I've seen 1 ep and I don't even want to watch more.

theGodde said:
honestly they might even be referring to the boyband BTS lmao

animeizboring said:


Whats shameless is you making this thread about something you barely understand, at least catch up before you can confidently talk about the 'issues' here or else just shut up and dont say anything

Hauntholic said:

Haven't heard of it. That's an incredibly stupid comment, because kpop is for fat girls and weird people, and outside of Korea most of the fans are in South America.

theGodde said:
with a statement so extremely incorrect (like actual surveys of BTS fans exist so you're wrong on an objective metric as well) I have now lost all faith in the quality of your opinions
you're either a troll or a bigot

Hauntholic said:

It's 100% correct. No one is going to admit that they're fat or weird in a survey. Now stop trying to take my thread off-topic with some random irrelevant nonsense. Has as much to do with the topic as Lil Uzi Vert does.