The Case Study of Vanitas
| It won't be like that during the whole show, but the first chapters are a little comedic. Later it gets more serious. |
| 1) The manga does use chibi a lot throughout. Those "funny" scenes are pretty important characterization so I suggest paying attention even if you don't like them. 2) I think the animation having color contributed to the jarring feeling. I personally don't mind, but I do feel it's more noticeable. 3) I think most people would gradually get used to it once the plot picks up. Artistic transitioning stands out mostly because there's not much coherence in the first episodes to grab the viewer's attention. Other than that, no guarantees on what Bones will or will not do. |
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| Don't worry, even Noé doesn't get the comedy sometimes. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| There is a lot of those kind of moments in the manga, but while there its a bit charming, I agree that it feels off with the first episode. Transitions being non-existent really didn't help. |
| Even though the manga has moments like this, I agree that the anime overdid it a little. There weren't chibis in that scene in the church, for example. But, as it has already been said, the story gets more serious. Vanitas, for instance, becomes really different as time progresses. He kinda stops being so loud all the time and starts being a little more taciturn. Even a little grumpy at times, I would say. |
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SirTristam said: Imagine being wrong about the fujoshi-bait claim.Yeah I noticed it too. This anime is mainly for female audience. With that fujoshi bait. Shouldn't have expected more |
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| I kind of feel this is just a nit-pick and a flaw for the viewer, I personally don't mind with the comedy appearing during the serious moments, I have read the manga, so I am pretty immune to this. However, it does get serious further in the series and you won't see much more of the "chibi" funny moments. I can promise you that, but in the end, it is your decision and your opinion. |
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| The comedy was smack on point for me, I love it when someone cracks a joke during a serious bit in certain situations, helps lighten the mood and might make me laugh. |
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| I've never liked the funny face thing in anime, I just hope it's not excessive in this one. |
Gween_Gween said: I don't mind the change of tension throughout the scenes, it does add an spice of surprise Interesting. For me it's the opposite: once the tension is diluted with some comedic effect, then the possibilities for surprise are instantly over, because you know that from that point onwards nothing serious will actually happen and that everything will be fine. Take the fighting scene for example. After a face like this shows up:  ... then you know everything is just for the laughs and kinda ruin whatever serious possibilities you were thinking of. From the spectator point of view, up until that moment they seemed to be in a potentially deadly fight. It's a valid choice for comedy-led shows, but somehow it throws me off in this one... maybe because this is not what I would expect from serious scenes in the setting that was established (vampires, somber atmosphere, etc). I guess adding a comedy tag would help setting more appropriate expectations for this anime. @Germs_N_Spices @TheOneOfSeven you guys have good points too. Although I wasn't trying to say that I dislike chibi or comedy. The post was more about the timing when those appear. At least it's good to know that it seems to have worked ok in the manga medium for you. |
| This is probably the only thing that truly bugged me about the adaptation itself. Not the comedy itself though, but rather the nonexistent transitioning between scenes when it comes to the comedy. They could have handled that better, in my opinion. It will not be like this throughout, but it will have a more lighthearted tone in the beginning. I am unsure how much they will be able to adapt, but if they do adapt as much as I think they will, there'll be a noticeable difference unless Bones changes it (which I doubt they will). However, if you like the setting, characters, story and so on, but not the way the anime presents its comedy, I'd definitely recommend the manga instead, since I personally feel that the comedy works way better in that format. Either way, it's only been one episode so far, so we'll see how it goes! |
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| Why is that only anime babies have problem with occasional comedic deformation? Japanese people and anime connoisseur simply got used to it years ago. |
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| Mochizuki does use this kind of comedy often. I agree with the other commenters, it was fine in the manga but it did not translate as well in the anime. It might be the background changes or the comedic bits happening over the dramatic music that makes it jarring. Though I can vouch that this doesn't happen at any high stake fight scene, if that's what's you're worried about. Hope you can still enjoy the show! |
myaoyaJul 4, 2021 10:45 AM
| I can't help but agree. In fact, that was my one and main issue I have so far in the series. But comedy is subjective so it's understandable I guess? |
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skysurf said: Gween_Gween said: I don't mind the change of tension throughout the scenes, it does add an spice of surprise Take the fighting scene for example. After a face like this shows up: ... then you know everything is just for the laughs and kinda ruin whatever serious possibilities you were thinking of. From the spectator point of view, up until that moment they seemed to be in a potentially deadly fight. It's a valid choice for comedy-led shows, but somehow it throws me off in this one... maybe because this is not what I would expect from serious scenes in the setting that was established (vampires, somber atmosphere, etc). Tags are used to indicate principle elements of the series, it shouldn't be used to point out every little literary device incorporated. If that's the case, you wouldn't be able to fit all the tags for Gintama within an encyclopedia. And frankly, the example you raised was precisely the reaction the author intended to have by using chibis, minus your frustration of course. In retrospect, Vanitas's scuffle with Noe wasn't a deadly fight. Vanitas is a vampire doctor and Noe is a pacifistic bystander, there's no reason they would be out for each other's throat in their first meeting, so the use of funny faces doesn't affect the the narrative significance of that "fight" whatsoever. I thought this was rather evident especially with the way music was incorporated in that scene to make it look more like a dance than a fight, and if anything, the funny face serves the same purpose in signaling mood. Vanitas pulling out a blade was a dramatic misdirection on the author's part, but there's absolutely no reason to feel angry about being deceived when the entire series leans heavily into plot twists and mystery. At any rate, there's little meaning to all this bickering since the first episode simply establishes the overall atmosphere, and correcting the viewer's expectations is one of the functions of the premier. It's completely normal to be jarred by the first episode especially knowing how Jun Mochizuki's works deviate from conventional animanga, but I think it's important to keep in mind that a lot of these directional choices would work out differently in hindsight and once the entire season is taken into account. The series, viewer expectations, and even our values and tastes in anime evolve over time in ways we do not expect, and it makes for a much more pleasant viewing experience to just sit back and watch for now without judging. |
Germs_N_SpicesJul 4, 2021 12:20 PM
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| Yup,the comedy was off putting for me as well but then again,this is Bones so I should've expected there will be random comedy ruining serious moments like they've done in Fmab. ManWild said: But comedy is subjective so it's understandable I guess? Every opinion is subjective so I don't get what you mean. |
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Scordolo said: Yup,the comedy was off putting for me as well but then again,this is Bones so I should've expected there will be random comedy ruining serious moments like they've done in Fmab. ManWild said: But comedy is subjective so it's understandable I guess? Every opinion is subjective so I don't get what you mean. But the fma manga always had chibi comedy if you read it. The 1st fma anime actually had less chibi comedy than FMA: brotherhood. LOL |
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Old_School_Akira said: Scordolo said: Yup,the comedy was off putting for me as well but then again,this is Bones so I should've expected there will be random comedy ruining serious moments like they've done in Fmab. Every opinion is subjective so I don't get what you mean. But the fma manga always had chibi comedy if you read it. The 1st fma anime actually had less chibi comedy than FMA: brotherhood. LOL What's your point?I generally dislike chibi comedy at the wrong moment so I don't get what you're saying. |
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