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May 22, 2021 8:58 PM
#401
purplemoon_ said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: I'm in complete disagreement here. In the latest interview, Miura said it was closer to 70% done and it was the home stretch. Some assistants might be livestock, but Miura had an excellent rapport with his, paid them well and was incredibly close. I don't mean that he flat out shared the ending with them, I meant that (especially at the tail end that he was moving faster than ever to get to) he no doubt had tons of notes or even a possible completed outline. There is no doubt he wasn't sure where to go by that point and at that speed. It makes no sense. He had those assistants to help out, sure, to start, but the real intent behind them was to have them work more and more on Berserk. I assume they can and will pick up the slack, with Miura's original story, and someone as meticulous as him set it up that way from the start, should this happen at all. Berserk is not a mainstream cash cow to milk like that; its fans love it too much and it's completely unapproachable as easy brand marketing, given its graphic nature and length. Why do you think there hasn't been a good adaptation yet? So I am in total disagreement; I'm going on everything I know, and less about unfounded paranoia. No one asked you to hold an opinion, actually, it might have been better if you didn't. Berserk is 70% done? Prove it? If you wanna play, learn to know that I always win. https://www.otaquest.com/kentaro-miura-interview-duranki-berserk/ Speaking very candidly about the future of Berserk during the interview, Kentaro Miura revealed that the story of Berserk is ‘approaching it’s back half’ (sic) and that ‘many surprises are in store.’ Assistants are chosen for their dexterity, to fill out margins and backgrounds. They aren't writers and don't act in the stead of the author. Art is burdened by the fact that it's artists are mere humans, and mortality is it's final construct. You need to accept that Berserk, as art, will remain incomplete. By blindly letting your democratization seep into your lax views of artistic expression, you end up with just another sterile franchise. You want it to essentially become fan fiction just so you could continue to consume a franchise you enjoy, just like what happened to Dune, a shallow pit of prequels, sequels, continuations that denature the themes and characters of the series. But just as Nietzsche brilliantly said himself, we need mediocre authors for mediocre people. Since when a profitable manga isn't a cash cow? If I understand this correctly for you, an anime being "good" (by your extremely lax criteria) justifies the fact that it exists solely to sell useless crap? And Berserk is peak mainstream, even Pewdiepie talks about it to his fanbase of prepubescent virgins (even if I remember most bookstores asking for an ID to purchase issues, back when I was buying physical tankōbons). Having Berserk as your favorite manga is like saying that Tarantino is your favorite director, 2001 is your favorite film, and The Beatles your favorite band, there's nothing blander and more normie when it comes to taste. Berserk is the ultimate title which serves as a paragon of otaku culture, it's the image that illustrates maturity in Seinen manga, it's even the only good one according to it's fanboys. And before you come back at me, it's franchise titties have been milked drier than a virginal waifu in a Fate work. Just look at Guts and Griffith promoting obesity and American imperialism. And also gambling addiction. I'm so glad I don't think like you. Anyone who thinks Pewdiepie is mainstream lives in a totally different reality from the real world. You live exclusively on the internet, I can tell; just the fact all you care about is 'winning' all but proves that for me. Ask people who don't spend all their time inside and on the computer all day who Pewdiepie is and see how many actually know who he is. Now ask anyone you can possibly meet anywhere to sing the famous song from Frozen. See the difference yet? What's mainstream on the internet isn't mainstream everywhere else. Internet mainstream is niche at best in the real world. I don't agree with your notion of what mainstream is even a little bit and I think you're wrong. Who said anything about having the assistants WRITE the series? You like to assume a lot; I'm saying there's a very high chance Miura left notes, outlines and even had it planned out, and in that case, the assistants can then bring that story to life via their art. No one said anything about them now penning and coming up with their own ending. There's nothing else to say to you; this isn't a debate, this is you desperate to prove your E-penis and win an argument. As for your article, you took "back half" as literally as literal gets. As in OMG THAT MUST BE 50%; it could be interpreted so many ways. I personally see it as the final quarter and others could see it many other ways as well. You don't suppose there's a reason Miura didn't actually give a concrete number? Don't remember where I heard 70, but it was in a lot of places, and just in common sense standards alone, it's far more than just half. Stop taking things so damn literally. (More proof you're a total internet dweller); I would find it, but honestly, I don't care to argue with you. I don't care about your stupid attempts. Your game is utterly boring. You are of no interest me, you've proven unable to form a coherent argument or provide context to your arbitrary qualifications. While insults might be amusing, you need to have something more developed behind them. I didn't even want to have a debate, you don't seem to understand that I have no reason to ''engage'' you in a debate, just like adults don't debate kindergartners. I might maybe educate a kindergartner, help him provide context to his arguments, help him come to sustained conclusions and identify fallacies. What would Epictetus have to say about your little rage right here ? You just see what you want to see, that's it. And you telling me that I'm a basement dweller, hilarious (I would have said that I'm ten times as cultured as you, but 10x0=0) That's the problem with children raised by Youtube. Social media influencers aren't the new mainstream? You think notes form a coherent narrative, are you even reading what you write? And assistants who are artists now, kek. Nietzsche also spoke about this, how the weak would never seek to broaden their knowledge, they consider what they already know to be sufficient. @CrimsonCW I know next to nothing about Berserk so i wont comment on that, but saying Pewdiepie isnt mainstream is just silly. The first time i even ever learned about him was from a literal south park episode that he was featured in and south park is one of the most popular influential tv shows of all time. Not to mention he’s been on several late night tv talk shows and mentioned to me by my friends. Its not as if im a big fan of him even at all,but generally speaking youre bound to hear about him at some point (both online and offline)just saying. You’d be surprised how many people blew up into mainstream simply from starting on youtube. A news thread made about Kentaro Miura's death turned into "is pewdiepie mainstream" You all have way too much time |
I don't speak English that much, so please cut me some slack |
May 22, 2021 10:35 PM
#402
I saw this like 2 days ago on Discord when someone posted about Muira being dead and I thought we're just on the usual shitposting spree again. A day after that, I saw that he was actually dead and I was like "wow... this is prolly gonna go down to the world history book" F for him, I hope Amazon delivers im@s games in heaven for our Muira onii-chan. |
May 23, 2021 2:10 AM
#403
sad that i won't get to see a Manben episode with miura (i don't really care about berserk ending or not +_+) now this... i want to try these "calorie mates" now :) |
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May 23, 2021 5:33 PM
#404
Rest in peace. Thank you for giving me a story that broke my heart and mend it altogether, a story that taught me there is no abyss that love cannot pull us back from. I'm starting to believe now. |
May 23, 2021 6:26 PM
#405
My deepest condolences for the great man, a legend, the creator of great Masterpiece for all of us. R.I.P Kentaro Miura. |
May 24, 2021 3:10 PM
#406
Is it possible that the Berserk manga might continue under a ghostwriter much like the Mitch Rapp spy thriller books? |
May 25, 2021 12:37 AM
#407
Nalusa_Falaya said: purplemoon_ said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: I'm in complete disagreement here. In the latest interview, Miura said it was closer to 70% done and it was the home stretch. Some assistants might be livestock, but Miura had an excellent rapport with his, paid them well and was incredibly close. I don't mean that he flat out shared the ending with them, I meant that (especially at the tail end that he was moving faster than ever to get to) he no doubt had tons of notes or even a possible completed outline. There is no doubt he wasn't sure where to go by that point and at that speed. It makes no sense. He had those assistants to help out, sure, to start, but the real intent behind them was to have them work more and more on Berserk. I assume they can and will pick up the slack, with Miura's original story, and someone as meticulous as him set it up that way from the start, should this happen at all. Berserk is not a mainstream cash cow to milk like that; its fans love it too much and it's completely unapproachable as easy brand marketing, given its graphic nature and length. Why do you think there hasn't been a good adaptation yet? So I am in total disagreement; I'm going on everything I know, and less about unfounded paranoia. No one asked you to hold an opinion, actually, it might have been better if you didn't. Berserk is 70% done? Prove it? If you wanna play, learn to know that I always win. https://www.otaquest.com/kentaro-miura-interview-duranki-berserk/ Speaking very candidly about the future of Berserk during the interview, Kentaro Miura revealed that the story of Berserk is ‘approaching it’s back half’ (sic) and that ‘many surprises are in store.’ Assistants are chosen for their dexterity, to fill out margins and backgrounds. They aren't writers and don't act in the stead of the author. Art is burdened by the fact that it's artists are mere humans, and mortality is it's final construct. You need to accept that Berserk, as art, will remain incomplete. By blindly letting your democratization seep into your lax views of artistic expression, you end up with just another sterile franchise. You want it to essentially become fan fiction just so you could continue to consume a franchise you enjoy, just like what happened to Dune, a shallow pit of prequels, sequels, continuations that denature the themes and characters of the series. But just as Nietzsche brilliantly said himself, we need mediocre authors for mediocre people. Since when a profitable manga isn't a cash cow? If I understand this correctly for you, an anime being "good" (by your extremely lax criteria) justifies the fact that it exists solely to sell useless crap? And Berserk is peak mainstream, even Pewdiepie talks about it to his fanbase of prepubescent virgins (even if I remember most bookstores asking for an ID to purchase issues, back when I was buying physical tankōbons). Having Berserk as your favorite manga is like saying that Tarantino is your favorite director, 2001 is your favorite film, and The Beatles your favorite band, there's nothing blander and more normie when it comes to taste. Berserk is the ultimate title which serves as a paragon of otaku culture, it's the image that illustrates maturity in Seinen manga, it's even the only good one according to it's fanboys. And before you come back at me, it's franchise titties have been milked drier than a virginal waifu in a Fate work. Just look at Guts and Griffith promoting obesity and American imperialism. And also gambling addiction. I'm so glad I don't think like you. Anyone who thinks Pewdiepie is mainstream lives in a totally different reality from the real world. You live exclusively on the internet, I can tell; just the fact all you care about is 'winning' all but proves that for me. Ask people who don't spend all their time inside and on the computer all day who Pewdiepie is and see how many actually know who he is. Now ask anyone you can possibly meet anywhere to sing the famous song from Frozen. See the difference yet? What's mainstream on the internet isn't mainstream everywhere else. Internet mainstream is niche at best in the real world. I don't agree with your notion of what mainstream is even a little bit and I think you're wrong. Who said anything about having the assistants WRITE the series? You like to assume a lot; I'm saying there's a very high chance Miura left notes, outlines and even had it planned out, and in that case, the assistants can then bring that story to life via their art. No one said anything about them now penning and coming up with their own ending. There's nothing else to say to you; this isn't a debate, this is you desperate to prove your E-penis and win an argument. As for your article, you took "back half" as literally as literal gets. As in OMG THAT MUST BE 50%; it could be interpreted so many ways. I personally see it as the final quarter and others could see it many other ways as well. You don't suppose there's a reason Miura didn't actually give a concrete number? Don't remember where I heard 70, but it was in a lot of places, and just in common sense standards alone, it's far more than just half. Stop taking things so damn literally. (More proof you're a total internet dweller); I would find it, but honestly, I don't care to argue with you. I don't care about your stupid attempts. Your game is utterly boring. You are of no interest me, you've proven unable to form a coherent argument or provide context to your arbitrary qualifications. While insults might be amusing, you need to have something more developed behind them. I didn't even want to have a debate, you don't seem to understand that I have no reason to ''engage'' you in a debate, just like adults don't debate kindergartners. I might maybe educate a kindergartner, help him provide context to his arguments, help him come to sustained conclusions and identify fallacies. What would Epictetus have to say about your little rage right here ? You just see what you want to see, that's it. And you telling me that I'm a basement dweller, hilarious (I would have said that I'm ten times as cultured as you, but 10x0=0) That's the problem with children raised by Youtube. Social media influencers aren't the new mainstream? You think notes form a coherent narrative, are you even reading what you write? And assistants who are artists now, kek. Nietzsche also spoke about this, how the weak would never seek to broaden their knowledge, they consider what they already know to be sufficient. @CrimsonCW I know next to nothing about Berserk so i wont comment on that, but saying Pewdiepie isnt mainstream is just silly. The first time i even ever learned about him was from a literal south park episode that he was featured in and south park is one of the most popular influential tv shows of all time. Not to mention he’s been on several late night tv talk shows and mentioned to me by my friends. Its not as if im a big fan of him even at all,but generally speaking youre bound to hear about him at some point (both online and offline)just saying. You’d be surprised how many people blew up into mainstream simply from starting on youtube. A news thread made about Kentaro Miura's death turned into "is pewdiepie mainstream" You all have way too much time Could be worse. |
I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
May 25, 2021 12:40 AM
#408
This is sad. RIP - Unbelievable man. |
May 25, 2021 1:19 AM
#409
Ahegyao said: Nalusa_Falaya said: purplemoon_ said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: DYNASTIA said: CrimsonCW said: I'm in complete disagreement here. In the latest interview, Miura said it was closer to 70% done and it was the home stretch. Some assistants might be livestock, but Miura had an excellent rapport with his, paid them well and was incredibly close. I don't mean that he flat out shared the ending with them, I meant that (especially at the tail end that he was moving faster than ever to get to) he no doubt had tons of notes or even a possible completed outline. There is no doubt he wasn't sure where to go by that point and at that speed. It makes no sense. He had those assistants to help out, sure, to start, but the real intent behind them was to have them work more and more on Berserk. I assume they can and will pick up the slack, with Miura's original story, and someone as meticulous as him set it up that way from the start, should this happen at all. Berserk is not a mainstream cash cow to milk like that; its fans love it too much and it's completely unapproachable as easy brand marketing, given its graphic nature and length. Why do you think there hasn't been a good adaptation yet? So I am in total disagreement; I'm going on everything I know, and less about unfounded paranoia. No one asked you to hold an opinion, actually, it might have been better if you didn't. Berserk is 70% done? Prove it? If you wanna play, learn to know that I always win. https://www.otaquest.com/kentaro-miura-interview-duranki-berserk/ Speaking very candidly about the future of Berserk during the interview, Kentaro Miura revealed that the story of Berserk is ‘approaching it’s back half’ (sic) and that ‘many surprises are in store.’ Assistants are chosen for their dexterity, to fill out margins and backgrounds. They aren't writers and don't act in the stead of the author. Art is burdened by the fact that it's artists are mere humans, and mortality is it's final construct. You need to accept that Berserk, as art, will remain incomplete. By blindly letting your democratization seep into your lax views of artistic expression, you end up with just another sterile franchise. You want it to essentially become fan fiction just so you could continue to consume a franchise you enjoy, just like what happened to Dune, a shallow pit of prequels, sequels, continuations that denature the themes and characters of the series. But just as Nietzsche brilliantly said himself, we need mediocre authors for mediocre people. Since when a profitable manga isn't a cash cow? If I understand this correctly for you, an anime being "good" (by your extremely lax criteria) justifies the fact that it exists solely to sell useless crap? And Berserk is peak mainstream, even Pewdiepie talks about it to his fanbase of prepubescent virgins (even if I remember most bookstores asking for an ID to purchase issues, back when I was buying physical tankōbons). Having Berserk as your favorite manga is like saying that Tarantino is your favorite director, 2001 is your favorite film, and The Beatles your favorite band, there's nothing blander and more normie when it comes to taste. Berserk is the ultimate title which serves as a paragon of otaku culture, it's the image that illustrates maturity in Seinen manga, it's even the only good one according to it's fanboys. And before you come back at me, it's franchise titties have been milked drier than a virginal waifu in a Fate work. Just look at Guts and Griffith promoting obesity and American imperialism. And also gambling addiction. I'm so glad I don't think like you. Anyone who thinks Pewdiepie is mainstream lives in a totally different reality from the real world. You live exclusively on the internet, I can tell; just the fact all you care about is 'winning' all but proves that for me. Ask people who don't spend all their time inside and on the computer all day who Pewdiepie is and see how many actually know who he is. Now ask anyone you can possibly meet anywhere to sing the famous song from Frozen. See the difference yet? What's mainstream on the internet isn't mainstream everywhere else. Internet mainstream is niche at best in the real world. I don't agree with your notion of what mainstream is even a little bit and I think you're wrong. Who said anything about having the assistants WRITE the series? You like to assume a lot; I'm saying there's a very high chance Miura left notes, outlines and even had it planned out, and in that case, the assistants can then bring that story to life via their art. No one said anything about them now penning and coming up with their own ending. There's nothing else to say to you; this isn't a debate, this is you desperate to prove your E-penis and win an argument. As for your article, you took "back half" as literally as literal gets. As in OMG THAT MUST BE 50%; it could be interpreted so many ways. I personally see it as the final quarter and others could see it many other ways as well. You don't suppose there's a reason Miura didn't actually give a concrete number? Don't remember where I heard 70, but it was in a lot of places, and just in common sense standards alone, it's far more than just half. Stop taking things so damn literally. (More proof you're a total internet dweller); I would find it, but honestly, I don't care to argue with you. I don't care about your stupid attempts. Your game is utterly boring. You are of no interest me, you've proven unable to form a coherent argument or provide context to your arbitrary qualifications. While insults might be amusing, you need to have something more developed behind them. I didn't even want to have a debate, you don't seem to understand that I have no reason to ''engage'' you in a debate, just like adults don't debate kindergartners. I might maybe educate a kindergartner, help him provide context to his arguments, help him come to sustained conclusions and identify fallacies. What would Epictetus have to say about your little rage right here ? You just see what you want to see, that's it. And you telling me that I'm a basement dweller, hilarious (I would have said that I'm ten times as cultured as you, but 10x0=0) That's the problem with children raised by Youtube. Social media influencers aren't the new mainstream? You think notes form a coherent narrative, are you even reading what you write? And assistants who are artists now, kek. Nietzsche also spoke about this, how the weak would never seek to broaden their knowledge, they consider what they already know to be sufficient. @CrimsonCW I know next to nothing about Berserk so i wont comment on that, but saying Pewdiepie isnt mainstream is just silly. The first time i even ever learned about him was from a literal south park episode that he was featured in and south park is one of the most popular influential tv shows of all time. Not to mention he’s been on several late night tv talk shows and mentioned to me by my friends. Its not as if im a big fan of him even at all,but generally speaking youre bound to hear about him at some point (both online and offline)just saying. You’d be surprised how many people blew up into mainstream simply from starting on youtube. A news thread made about Kentaro Miura's death turned into "is pewdiepie mainstream" You all have way too much time Could be worse. This is freaking messed up, What an insensitive wannabe troll |
I don't speak English that much, so please cut me some slack |
May 25, 2021 8:58 PM
#410
May 26, 2021 12:47 AM
#411
May 26, 2021 5:09 AM
#412
though late in this reply, many akin to myself found solace in the world which kentaro created. berserk for me enlightened my philosophy as it garnered the concept of what it means to be human by exploiting the extremities of dark fiction. it was the only book that actively made me cry. fully crafting all negative emotions for us as the readers to reflect on ourselves. its rather funny that it took kentaro's death for me to fully realize that he was my only idol in my life. i started berserk a few years ago when one of my best friends kept on pestering me about it as he said it was "the only good thing that my people made". and from there i witnessed a journey of a lifetime unfold right in front of my eyes. the writing with the gorgeous art only enhanced what one would call perfection. i love berserk too too much and the pain i felt, still feel with the death of kentaro was beyond indescribable as he made me a better person. i cried, i cried for someone that I've never met in my life as he made me realize that the strongest weapon that we have in this world is books. it can shape a man for the better or the worse. I've always wanted to meet kentaro and give him the biggest hug as he helped me though some toughs times within the confines of my life by intrinsically applying real world emotions to something so fantastical. berserk will always be the best manga in the world and this is enough for me to say that kentaro wasn't a man but a hero to the world of manga and literature. rest in peace kentaro, your work captivated the hearts of millions with the upmost dedication that could only be fictional |
May 29, 2021 3:04 PM
#414
This is a sad news. Rest in peace Kentaro Miura. I believe Berserk will continue to strive and stay strong just as Guts did. You can leave it to other mangaka worthy to continue your manga... Thank you! |
May 30, 2021 12:22 AM
#415
Noitora33 said: Is that really the first thing you say when someone dies?Now who is gonna finish the manga? |
May 30, 2021 12:44 AM
#416
-StOrmShaDoW- said: Noitora33 said: Is that really the first thing you say when someone dies?Now who is gonna finish the manga? Yes. Because Berserk is a great manga and it will be very sad if it remains unfinished. And whoever will finish it, it won't be the same. So, yes. I wanted him to finish the manga before he died. |
May 30, 2021 6:59 AM
#417
Noitora33 said: I understand what you are saying, but you should have at least expressed some condolences.-StOrmShaDoW- said: Noitora33 said: Now who is gonna finish the manga? Yes. Because Berserk is a great manga and it will be very sad if it remains unfinished. And whoever will finish it, it won't be the same. So, yes. I wanted him to finish the manga before he died. |
Jun 3, 2021 3:12 AM
#418
You can tell the majority of userbase is from the third world with all the eulogy for a greedy author. |
And still, Bill will live on. He will befriend the next inhabitants of the earth, beings of light who revere him as a god. And Bill will outlive them all... for millions and millions of years...exploring, learning, living, until the earth is swallowed beneath his feet. Until the sun is long since gone. Until time loses all meaning and the moment comes that he knows only the positions of the stars and sees them whether his eyes are closed or open. Until he forgets his name and the place where he'd once come from. He lives and he lives until all of the lights go out. |
Jun 10, 2021 7:38 PM
#420
You know its Berserk when the fans and haters are waging the literal Battle of Thermopolae in the replies here. Hopeful the hate doesn't end when the series finally does continue, which is basically inevitable. RIP Miura and even if you hate Berserk, you have to respect the sheer controversy his work brings to the world. The message I get from this; NOTHING IS EVER SETTLED ! |
Jun 12, 2021 6:28 AM
#421
Rest in Pieces Kentarou-dono. Thank you for representing the crusades like they were in a bloody awesome manga. I hope your soul is in your personal Valhalla with your cute girls. @Berserkfans let's finish the story through doujins. Who's with me? |
Jun 13, 2021 4:17 PM
#422
So many good manga's have it either be on indefinite hiatus like Highschool of the dead, Dragon eye and others. Some of them have it because the author dies or are sick. |
Jul 12, 2021 1:33 PM
#423
Tons of respect for this man Rest In Peace. |
I can't even function as a human being anymore. |
Jul 15, 2021 3:40 PM
#424
Jul 18, 2021 4:46 PM
#425
Rip sir . you will be missed , you gave us one of the greatest masterpiece of all time . We love you sir . |
Jul 31, 2021 6:24 PM
#426
F .............. |
Aug 1, 2021 10:28 PM
#427
I don't know what to say. It's such a tragic that he died without even finishing the berserk |
Aug 8, 2021 10:15 AM
#428
RIP Never read this manga but I always knew that its not going to be finished (sighs) thats why I never picked it up... |
Aug 19, 2021 7:57 AM
#429
Aug 23, 2021 1:42 PM
#430
Still can't believe this happened 😢 |
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Aug 23, 2021 1:42 PM
#431
Still can't believe this happened 😢 |
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Dec 18, 2021 11:26 AM
#432
Rest in Peace Miura. Berserk will forever be the greatest manga. |
Dec 18, 2021 5:55 PM
#433
;( |
Jan 2, 2022 2:52 PM
#434
rest in peace the man whose works make me spend my most enjoyable time. You will never be forgotten. |
Jan 5, 2022 6:47 PM
#435
I have only read it now - even though it's my favorite anime. There is no need to be sad if he was a good man - it is better for him now. When such people leave, it is a greater pity and sadness for us - because new works will not be created |
Mar 18, 2022 6:59 AM
#436
i'm so sad... this is a masterpiece without an ending... i hope some kind of novel that he would've wrote for the end comes out ))))))))): |
Sep 30, 2023 2:44 PM
#437
Rest in peace Kentarou Miura. |
Oct 1, 2023 6:27 PM
#438
Well holy cow. R.I.P. 54 is pretty young still. |
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