| Damn, all these people have some really weird priorities trying to change how you watch anime I watch dubs when I can! Funimation sub has been great. For me it has to do with like established voices, where in my head, Lelouch will always be Johnny Yong Bosch so I couldn't watch any new Code Geass stuff til it's out in dub. But with new shows that have a couple week dub delay, I'm okay watching sub to stay ahead. People just gotta accept that there's dubs that are legitimately just as good, or even better than, watching the sub! The only reason so many people are like "its cringe" is because they dont know Japanese and they don't know if the JP actor was putting on a cringey performance in the first place. |
nanimeanswhat said: drstonefan said: I think you are wrong about voice actors expressing emotion english dub voice actors can do it just as well if not better than seiyuu like for example the emotions of the characters that the voice actors play in these dubs MHA especially episode 14 of the 4th season also all of the emotional moments in FMA:B/ and Shield Hero and many more. Yet none of them are on the same level as god-tier VAs like the ones I mentioned (Miyano Mamoru and Kaji Yuki) will say only a couple words yes they are you are just biased. |
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| I have been watching subs for years now and when I wanted to watch a dub, it sounds just so retarded to me all the characters sound so dumb and kinda cringy, but like others have said you do you, I don't hate dub watchers I just find it a little weird |
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| We will stop hating when you'll finally watch your anime subbed. |
| Because people apparently have nothing better to do. They're total scrubs and will take any chance at appearing superior to someone else. Or at least that's the only thing I can think of, since it's such a sad and meaningless argument. Watch Yu Yu Hakusho dubbed or die. |
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| Just ignore those people. Funny thing is on a subreddit I used romanji title form attack on titan (Shingeki no Kyojin) and a guy got mad at me saying that onky shitty weebs use Japanese Titles. There are stupid people on both sides. |
| Don't be a self pretentious that is the most gayest thing ever English Dubs are better than subs You all have anime profile pic so you opinion doesn't count Your Waifu is trash Cory in the house is the best anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFQQALduhzA Japanese are one of the most xenophobic nations My Anime List looks like a website from 1990s |
| Elitists know that many western anime viewers begin with dubbed anime before switching to subbed. To them, switching to subbed anime means they have graduated from being a beginner anime fan and are now a part of the cool kids club. The easiest way to show others that they are in fact in the cool kids club is to speak poorly of the club which they are now above. This cements their status as a cool kid. Some choose a less explicit approach where they can avoid criticism while still earning their monthly quota of cool kid points. They might devise literature along the lines of: "haha, there's nothing wrong with dubbed, it's just that after I switched to subbed, dubs seem kinda cringy to me now lol, but I don't understand the hate tbh!" If you prefer dubbed anime, just remember that this is the average mindset of a person preaching about subbed. |
| People just see their own preferences as superior, or at the very least, "seeing it as right" from their own perspectives. What really takes a brain is realising that other brains don't operate like your own. For example, I likes subs; but hot damn, do I have a preference for the DBZ dub. Personally, I think the people who say that are just a vocal minority while most people just think to themselves "yeah, that's fine" and carry on without voicing it. |
| "You know you've reached peak quality when a doujin is better than the actual source series." (Eg. To LOVE-Ru) Just to list a couple of biases. Likes: A good story, characters, writing, romance, a good plot twist or something that breaks expectations (In a good way), 'backstory' and justice. Dislikes: Bad romance, too much fanservice, the harem genre, yuri, yaoi, and bad writing. |
drstonefan said: nanimeanswhat said: Yet none of them are on the same level as god-tier VAs like the ones I mentioned (Miyano Mamoru and Kaji Yuki) will say only a couple words yes they are you are just biased. That describes half the anti-dub people in this thread tbh. I like dubs as much as I do subs. It's nice to not always have to look at subtitles. |
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Tropisch said: That describes half the anti-dub people in this thread tbh. I like dubs as much as I do subs. It's nice to not always have to look at subtitles. Yes for sure I actually only watch subbed when there are no other options. |
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| Not hating but I'm getting triggered when someone says American voice acting is superior to Japanese voice acting or humiliating the original content in the YouTube comments. |
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| I prefer subs over dubs because a) I have become used to it and b) I prefer subtitles. Even on non-cartoon/non-anime shows, I keep subtitles on. Dubs and subs differs from person to person. I find many subs better than their dub counter parts but there are dubs that are on equal or better terms. For example, I am not a fan of Dragonball but whenever I hear JP VA for Goku, it sounds like a grown man has a childlike voice whereas the EN VA has a more adult voice for Goku. But another contributing factor is that many seasonals do not have a dubbed version and seasonals that do have a dubbed, there is like a few days or a week difference between subbed and dubbed. If the subbed comes out first, Imma watch it first. |
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| Because people on are dickheads. There is no problem with liking dubs. I personally like both equally and can enjoy either. Just ignore those pretentious chucklefucks and continue to enjoy anime. However regardless of what side of The Sub V. Dub you're on can we all that this debate is dumb and should have died a long time a ago. Since no one switches side because of the debate. |
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| If u like generic voices without any effort watch dubs. if u like robot voices for some reason watch dub. If u like comedy genre watch every anime in dub and it will become comedy, because the voices are so funny. if u wanna upset normal ppl tell them you watch anime in dub. if u wanna insult Japanese culture watch dub. Ngl dubs are pretty much trash and big garbage. |
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| I think its because of how dubs usually sound. For me anyway, it just seems unnatural with all the yelling and high voices that makes it hard to take seriously. When it's in sub though, I don't think of it as unnatural since the language is foreign to me anyway. I just accept the yelling and high voices as silly Japanese things and enjoy the show. |
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| 4Kids dub of One Piece. That tells you everything you need to know about horrible dubbed anime |
| Cause english dub is bad a lot of the times. |
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MegamiRem said: Cause english dub is bad a lot of the times. Yes and most modern dubs tend to remove the original Japanese line (Dragon Maid) |
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Artifiyings said: Yeah they change dialogues/lines/honorifics etc.MegamiRem said: Cause english dub is bad a lot of the times. Yes and most modern dubs tend to remove the original Japanese line (Dragon Maid) |
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| i think there is such an disagreement because people feel superior when they are able to understand or do something that isn't the "usual" it is an an ego thing. i watch anime sub and dub, just based on which one i prefer. people like feeling that they are better than the people around them because they don't feel enough or want to feel important. maybe that is harsh but that is how i see it. it is idiotic and it honestly is such a stupid thing to fight about! we all watch anime, its the same storyline ૮₍ ˃ ⤙ ˂ ₎ა |
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| The community has become more calmer now compared to back then.Now sub preferes don't really hate those who prefer dub but the dub hate still exist. ccbestgirl1411 said: I dunno man, I've never understood the hate towards people who prefer dubbed anime. Most of them say that it's got the same VA's but the same thing could be said for the sub VA's as well. They should understand that people have preferences, stop ewwing us :/ Exactly.I'm planning to watch Fruits Basket in dub because I can't stand the Va of the main character.It's annoying as hell even though I'm usually the one who prefers sub. |
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CuteAssTiger said: Dubs have been getting better over time as the industry gets bigger in the West and gets better VA but usually the original is just better. Anime is a very extreme medium where you get a bunch of emotional scenes where people yell Into microphones and the dubs often fail to reach that extreme . That's why so many people don't like the dubs . Although the times of truly awful dubs are pretty much over "better va" hard disagree jamieson price,wendee lee,steve blum,crispin freeman and richard epcar are actually good voice actors (starred in good dubs you don't care to know exist because you think "new good old bad" is a good mindset which is bs) and much better these generic nobodies they hire nowadays lol and dubs got worse in variety and casting choices and no bad dubs will always exist and there's more of them than back then because funimation dubs became the norm and these imo just suck and sentai dubs the second most common dubs are mostly done by chris ayres who always sucks as a dub director and that makes most sentai dubs bad at least back then you had consistently good dubs with actually good casting choices from studios like bang zoom,ocean group,media concepts,pcb productuions,animaze (1995 and afterwards) and new generation pictures you could a random anime they did and 9/10 it's a really good dub |
nachomaxo1Aug 11, 2021 6:37 PM
nachomaxo1 said: CuteAssTiger said: Dubs have been getting better over time as the industry gets bigger in the West and gets better VA but usually the original is just better. Anime is a very extreme medium where you get a bunch of emotional scenes where people yell Into microphones and the dubs often fail to reach that extreme . That's why so many people don't like the dubs . Although the times of truly awful dubs are pretty much over "better va" hard disagree jamieson price,wendee lee,steve blum,crispin freeman and richard epcar are actually good voice actors (starred in good dubs you don't care to know exist because you think "new good old bad" is a good mindset which is bs) and much better these generic nobodies they hire nowadays lol and dubs got worse in variety and casting choices and no bad dubs will always exist and there's more of them than back then because funimation dubs became the norm and these imo just suck and sentai dubs the second most common dubs are mostly done by chris ayres who always sucks as a dub director and that makes most sentai dubs bad at least back then you had consistently good dubs with actually good casting choices from studios like bang zoom,ocean group,media concepts,pcb productuions,animaze (1995 and afterwards) and new generation pictures you could a random anime they did and 9/10 it's a really good dub And in how many anime do those appear out of all the older anime ? The reason dubs have been getting better over time is because the industry over time has gotten more popular and thus has more money and recources to get better VAS . This is a totally logical reality and has nothing to do with the ignorant generelation you just pulled out of nowhere. Growing up I've seen more German dubs then English ones ( and those definitely used to be absolutely awful) but from what I've gathered over the years people have observed the same development in other languages. After all an easy explanation for why the original japanese Dub tends to be the better version in almost all cases is simply because they put more focus on making anime then any other region. A region that is focused on playing soccer really well will find,cultivate,train a lot of good soccer players A region that does those things for anime will likely produce the best anime voice actors. I suppose English dubs in particular have a good chance to pull from many actor careers as there might be an easy correlation between people striving to be actors and people who are voice actors Maybe you shouldn't tell people what they think while you inject some ignorant BS into what they are actully thinking .I've never even remotely implied that something that is new automatically has to be better then something that is old. GG |
| I'd watch dubbed if there were competent VA's involved, but there's no real money in dubbing anime so it's never going to happen. Japanese VA work seems to always be really good I've literally never had a complaint for VA work in anything I've ever watched. Although I will say when I start Pokemon I'm 100% watching the dub, but I'll be listening to the japanese OPs and EDs because they are way better. |
CuteAssTiger said: nachomaxo1 said: "better va" hard disagree jamieson price,wendee lee,steve blum,crispin freeman and richard epcar are actually good voice actors (starred in good dubs you don't care to know exist because you think "new good old bad" is a good mindset which is bs) and much better these generic nobodies they hire nowadays lol and dubs got worse in variety and casting choices and no bad dubs will always exist and there's more of them than back then because funimation dubs became the norm and these imo just suck and sentai dubs the second most common dubs are mostly done by chris ayres who always sucks as a dub director and that makes most sentai dubs bad at least back then you had consistently good dubs with actually good casting choices from studios like bang zoom,ocean group,media concepts,pcb productuions,animaze (1995 and afterwards) and new generation pictures you could a random anime they did and 9/10 it's a really good dub And in how many anime do those appear out of all the older anime ? The reason dubs have been getting better over time is because the industry over time has gotten more popular and thus has more money and recources to get better VAS . This is a totally logical reality and has nothing to do with the ignorant generelation you just pulled out of nowhere. Growing up I've seen more German dubs then English ones ( and those definitely used to be absolutely awful) but from what I've gathered over the years people have observed the same development in other languages. After all an easy explanation for why the original japanese Dub tends to be the better version in almost all cases is simply because they put more focus on making anime then any other region. A region that is focused on playing soccer really well will find,cultivate,train a lot of good soccer players A region that does those things for anime will likely produce the best anime voice actors. I suppose English dubs in particular have a good chance to pull from many actor careers as there might be an easy correlation between people striving to be actors and people who are voice actors Maybe you shouldn't tell people what they think while you inject some ignorant BS into what they are actully thinking .I've never even remotely implied that something that is new automatically has to be better then something that is old. GG let's see ruroni kenshin (bang zoom dub),code geass,ghost in the shell,outlaw star,cowboy bebop,trigun,gurren lagaan,monster,helllsing,paranoia agent,the big o,perfect blue,s cry ed,naruto,bleach,chobits,wolf's rain,haruhi suzumiya,gundam f91,gundam war in the pocket,metropolis and way more and no just because it got "bigger" doesn't mean it's better (in fact it's almost a monopoly unlike back then where there was good companies like central park media,geneon/pioneer,bandai and media blasters) imo I would say it's worse at least monstly consitent high quality dubs (well if you count censored tv dubs by saban and 4kids like pokemon you're an ahole since those are always bad no matter when they are made) from bang zoom,the ocean group,nyav post,media concepts and pcb productions with actually good casting choices unlike now since most dubs are done by funimation (they treated like they were the worst back then and weren't as big for a reason butchered scripts and really bad voice acting and it's still the same),sentai's directed chris ayres aka most of their dubs and netflix's vsi and all these dubs suck once in a while you get a good dub from by people like kyle jones or john swasey but it's not much and the good dubs nowadays mostly from la studios like bang zoom and studiopolis (since the ocean group or true new york dubs even though the few that exist are some of the best dubs of the 2010s) have very poor casting choices and they simply decided to get rid of the talented people like steve blum and bridget hoffman in favor of new,boring and oversaturated actors who just not as good as these old actors and you're the one who's ignorant for the fact you deny good old dubs exists you pos |
nachomaxo1Aug 12, 2021 1:34 AM
| I am one of those people, the example Catra_Fangirl gave was pretty on point. It's like I don't hate the eng Dub guys, I've also watched dub. But there's good dub and bad dub. In the last 10 years any anime that came out had dub that made me cringe. For me anime had good dub in the 2000s and previous decades. My first language isn't eng, or jap, so having both featured in anime is ideal for me. That's only possible however when it's Japanese dub and eng sub. |
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| I was like that too, but then I realized how much better the Japanese voice actors and actresses are. |
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| It's not like I hate people who watch dub anime, some dubs are good but the main feeling and emotions you get from sub cannot be recreated, I always prefer watching shows in their original language and not dubbed, I just don't want to miss out on whats actually happening |
| Personally I enjoy them both. I love subbed a little more because there's much more emotion. Take the same dramatic or intense scene on subbed and dubbed, and you'll see a difference. However, there should never be any hate towards dubbed or subbed anime or the people who watch either. I understand both sides and why they like them. You watch what makes you happy and comfortable. Anyone who throws shade or insults at you for watching dubbed or subbed is a child. There was a time where people were bullied and picked on for even liking anime. We stuck together and not look at us.. insulting each other? No better than the people who bullied the anime fans years ago. At the end of the day, whether you're watching subbed or dubbed, YOU'RE supporting that anime by watching it and that is all that ever matters. |
| Dubs have gotten a lot better in recent years so the whole dubs are awful carries less validity than it once did. Is every dub good? No. But taking things across the board the standard has improved and there are even some series when I feel the dub is superior to the native version. I do also think some of this talk about dubs being bad is just gatekeeping by certain anime fans i.e. you are not a real anime fan if you watch anime dubs you are just a tourist. The real anime viewers will watch the subs! Forget all this nonsense and just watch the anime whatever format takes your fancy. Dubs, subs or even raw. It does not matter. It is not like we are earning a living watching anime! |
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| how dare you not like what I like? I'm offended! |
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