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Sep 13, 2013 11:52 AM

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I am watching it now and one thing that just jumped out at me was Miyu used Gae Bolg again which she should not of been able to use for another day. I get they extended the fight compared to the quick end to the fight after Illya turns up in the manga but they should not break the established rules of how many times the cards can be used. Also Berserker should be resistant to it since he already died to it once, though it is Gae Bolg so maybe it can get through more than once considering its power? That is a slight grey area i guess.
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Sep 13, 2013 12:03 PM

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It's the Death Flight version of Gae Bolg so I guess that's why it worked? I dunno.
Though I agree about the cards usage limitation.
Sep 13, 2013 12:09 PM

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Slicer22 said:
I am watching it now and one thing that just jumped out at me was Miyu used Gae Bolg again which she should not of been able to use for another day. I get they extended the fight compared to the quick end to the fight after Illya turns up in the manga but they should not break the established rules of how many times the cards can be used. Also Berserker should be resistant to it since he already died to it once, though it is Gae Bolg so maybe it can get through more than once considering its power? That is a slight grey area i guess.

You know I dont really expect them to be perfectly knowledgeable when it comes to abilities.
Powerlevel warsdiscussions between fans never end,so we cant expect them(anime studio) to know/remember everything.
Sep 13, 2013 12:23 PM

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ssjokg said:

You know I dont really expect them to be perfectly knowledgeable when it comes to abilities.
Powerlevel warsdiscussions between fans never end,so we cant expect them(anime studio) to know/remember everything.


Well i questioned it since they said so themselves during the explanations about the cards on the roof back in episode 3 so the staff were aware of it.

Was it just me but the noise and expressions that Miyu and Illya made during their multi Excalibur blast a little lacking? It just did not seem to match the scale of what they were doing just felt i don't know a bit jarring to me or something like that.

Anyway i enjoyed this series overall and am looking forward to season 2 and will probably reread the manga now.

8/10
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Sep 13, 2013 12:27 PM

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Slicer22 said:


Well i finished it off and lol that kiss for a second i thought it was Shirou but ended up being Miyu none of that bit was in the manga but that was some anime original i don't mind had me laughing pretty hard.



It's not anime original, it's the beginning of 2wei.
Sep 13, 2013 12:30 PM

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C-Core said:
It's not anime original, it's the beginning of 2wei.


Woops it has been a while since i read it and seem to have forgot that bit looks like i really could use a re-read of the whole manga.

Just looked it up lol it was the first few pages of the start of 2wei.
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soo it's over now.. a really nice finale and the battle scenes looked awesome as always c:
lol @ that kiss. and we got to SEE WAVER AGAIN. YAYAYAY.
overall i really enjoyed it... 8/10 from me. and now on to waiting for the specials, OVA and of course the 2nd season :-)
Sep 13, 2013 12:36 PM

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Slicer22 said:
ssjokg said:

You know I dont really expect them to be perfectly knowledgeable when it comes to abilities.
Powerlevel warsdiscussions between fans never end,so we cant expect them(anime studio) to know/remember everything.


Well i questioned it since they said so themselves during the explanations about the cards on the roof back in episode 3 so the staff were aware of it.

Was it just me but the noise and expressions that Miyu and Illya made during their multi Excalibur blast a little lacking? It just did not seem to match the scale of what they were doing just felt i don't know a bit jarring to me or something like that.

Anyway i enjoyed this series overall and am looking forward to season 2 and will probably reread the manga now.

8/10
What C-Core said and I was talking about the ability of God Hand and NPs in general.Using the same Include a second time is a big mistake but I can forgive something that they would know only if they had researched FSN in more detail.Even in the extended Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya fight,the abilities that Ilya used were either featured in 2wei or are pretty damn popular(Overedge,unless if it was shown in 2wei and I just forgot).
Sep 13, 2013 12:41 PM

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ssjokg said:
What C-Core said and I was talking about the ability of God Hand and NPs in general.Using the same Include a second time is a big mistake but I can forgive something that they would know only if they had researched FSN in more detail.Even in the extended Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya fight,the abilities that Ilya used were either featured in 2wei or are pretty damn popular(Overedge,unless if it was shown in 2wei and I just forgot).


Ah sorry i misunderstood and yes it can be forgiven they did a good job of extending the battles and fleshing them out more in the anime though i always did prefer the manga fight for Rider better. It is not that different but the small differences in the manga made it better for me. Saber Alter vs Archer Illya was a was of course the best one and considering she had all the ability's of Archer there was no real problem of any of the skills she used.

I still hope to at some point to see an UBW in the manga at some point. Since the 3rei we may even get to see it from a certain chained up person at some point.
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Sep 13, 2013 1:05 PM

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Slicer22 said:
ssjokg said:
What C-Core said and I was talking about the ability of God Hand and NPs in general.Using the same Include a second time is a big mistake but I can forgive something that they would know only if they had researched FSN in more detail.Even in the extended Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya fight,the abilities that Ilya used were either featured in 2wei or are pretty damn popular(Overedge,unless if it was shown in 2wei and I just forgot).


Ah sorry i misunderstood and yes it can be forgiven they did a good job of extending the battles and fleshing them out more in the anime though i always did prefer the manga fight for Rider better. It is not that different but the small differences in the manga made it better for me. Saber Alter vs Archer Illya was a was of course the best one and considering she had all the ability's of Archer there was no real problem of any of the skills she used.

I still hope to at some point to see an UBW in the manga at some point. Since the 3rei we may even get to see it from a certain chained up person at some point.

I believe that only Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya and the Berserker fight were actually better than the manga.Rider and Caster were much better for me in the manga.FZ Assassin wasnt even a fight.
What bothered me in the adaptation is the lack of blood and actual injuries.(Except from scenes that were necessary)
Sep 13, 2013 1:13 PM

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ssjokg said:
I believe that only Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya and the Berserker fight were actually better than the manga.Rider and Caster were much better for me in the manga.FZ Assassin wasnt even a fight.
What bothered me in the adaptation is the lack of blood and actual injuries.(Except from scenes that were necessary)


I don't remember the Caster fight being much better in the manga i will see if that is true when i reread it. Poor Assassin got turned into fodder in both manga and anime.

Yes i could of used more blood and their injuries being heavier like in the manga and i somewhat hope they may tweak it in the blu-rays but i get the feeling they wont.
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Sep 13, 2013 1:18 PM

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guess berserker's heart is in his stomach
this ending was perfect in so many levels
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AWESOME EPISODE!!!

As usual Berserker is OP as fuck XD

Really loved the fight animation and Berserker's CG was actually pretty damn nice.
The Parallel include was pretty amazing and MiyuxIllya emotions were nice along with it.

Illya dreaming of kissing Shriou was sooo cute then actually turning out to be Miyu XD Her reaction was sooo KAWAIII <3

Lol'd at how Illya said "I thought u were onii chan" XD Which means it would be okay if it was Shirou XD

Iris and the two maids conversation was nice.

Then the part at school was lol. Miyu clinging to Illya was really cute.

At the end Rin destroying Luvi's heli and both of them beat up was hilarious XD

The cameo at the end was awesome! Really glad there's a 2nd season :D
Sep 13, 2013 1:37 PM

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Awesome that we got a second season. This really deserves one , but I hope it'll be at least as good as this one.

As for this anime , it's going to be easy to remember. Epic battle scenes and emotions , loved it.

8/10
Sep 13, 2013 1:38 PM
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ssjokg said:
I believe that only Saber Alter vs Archer Ilya and the Berserker fight were actually better than the manga.


Haven't read the manga, but the Saber/Archer fight was great animation and a rare example of exploiting animations chief advantage over manga: mobility. The way Ilya moved during that fight was incredible, particularly her stomach muscles when she was dodging Saber. The animators put some serious thought into that sequence and it paid off.
Sep 13, 2013 1:43 PM

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well that was a really fun ride.

and about dat foreshadowing... all i want to say is this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipWoX9xL2No

now to play the waiting game....
Sep 13, 2013 1:54 PM

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The friendship is strong between Illya and Miyu, obliterating Berserker with a single blast. Nice to see the opening song when finishing him off. Haha Luvia still being immature when taking he card away from Rin. Oh wow the morning caught me off gaurd by a misunderstanding kiss. Hooray for a second season.

Well last episode was good and I enjoyed it. An 8/10 for me in this.

Sep 13, 2013 1:59 PM

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Unlimited excalibur works as sweet. Can't wait for season 2. I'd like some more Shirou or Archer
Sep 13, 2013 2:02 PM

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Remind me please: do we ever see full-body Caster Include in the manga?
Sep 13, 2013 2:04 PM

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OneMore said:
Remind me please: do we ever see full-body Caster Include in the manga?
It's Install not Include.
Sep 13, 2013 2:44 PM

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Okay... so everything amazing. I should have started my comment about this episode faster because I just lost all my ideas.

ILYA!!! That kiss!!! Look at it bellow... and that sentence: "But if that's what you want, Illya, I'll do the best I can." blew me up in laughs... look how cute she is with that blush...



Same pic but 1080p and no subtitle if anyone wants it

Forgot to say... Onii-chan's love she still has wants it since first day we met her in this series :D xD.
Also that reaction of the classmates, just priceless xD. Oh and that friendship.. I guess the kiss had to do something with it.

Haha when I saw that Rin is in a forest I already knew they crashed xD. And I guess they'll be going to the same school as Illya and Miyu... Also the ED?!, will we see Rin as a maid? xD, I bet she wont be a maid for long :).

AWWW end of season. New season peak-a-view after the ED, who's that guy?

And last pic :)
The card


Oh man I could re-watch this episode countless times and feel the same :).


Also I really do hope I don't miss the next season.
Sep 13, 2013 3:05 PM

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Nice ending especially the crashed helicopter with Rin and Luvia like that, they still have a long way to go before they stop destroying the lecture hall because of a simple argument.
They really like each other even if they don't admit to it.
Miyu and Ilia also have some ways to go.

Seeing as there are three manga and second season is announced there might even be some hope for the third season as well.
Sep 13, 2013 3:06 PM

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That kiss lol. Cool that there's a second season. Can't wait!
Sep 13, 2013 3:17 PM
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just want to say that i find this enjoyable and it gave me a few good laughs.
well im off to read the manga so my friend would stop bugging me to read it lol
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IllyaxMiyu is so cute! Miya is much more cuter now that she's all attached to illya.
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Sep 13, 2013 3:37 PM

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very enjoyable episode for me too ..that kiss..lmao! i give it a solid 7/10 and will watch season 2 for sure ;)
Sep 13, 2013 3:45 PM

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Great ending, loved the kiss scene.
7/10
Sep 13, 2013 4:04 PM

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6/10
might watch the sequel
Sep 13, 2013 4:25 PM

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This episode was so cute. I love the fight scenes in the anime. Miyu was being so attached lol. Yay for a second season, now we need one for Blood Lad. I can definitely say that if I wasn't a fan of the Fate/ franchise I wouldn't have enjoyed it as much.
And so i pray...Unlimited Friendship Works.
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Sep 13, 2013 5:00 PM

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This show was meh some episodes were great some were really boring 5/10.
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Sep 13, 2013 6:49 PM

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THE POWAH OF FRIEUNDSHIP SAVES THE DAYY
Sep 13, 2013 7:39 PM

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Anime of the year all year.




Sep 13, 2013 7:41 PM

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Great episode, now I can't wait to see season 2. :D
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Sep 13, 2013 7:47 PM

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In the end I think I like the anime a little better than the manga, if not just because the fight scenes are clearer on what's happening when animated.

Pretty good to hear 2wei is getting adapted, so let's hope for 3rei as well.
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Great way to end the anime. Overall, this anime was a pleasant show to watch. For those that are butthurt, I just kinda felt that if you don't take it too seriously (I mean seriously, the anime already admits that half of the plot elements are so cliche), this anime was both really funny and action packed with great animation. Definitely worth a 9/10 on my both simply based on the overall experience.
Sep 13, 2013 8:25 PM

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So do you think Irisviel knew about all the magical stuff going on? They kinda implied that she did but never flat out said so.
Sep 13, 2013 10:26 PM

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dat end card. based author is an amazing illustrator too.
Sep 14, 2013 12:41 AM

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Can't wait for 2wei
Sep 14, 2013 2:12 AM

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some episodes are boring
but overall 9/10 for me, I'm a Type-Moon fan :p
Sep 14, 2013 2:24 AM

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For the most part, a very average anime. This episode in particular gets a 3/5 from me. The fight was anticlimactic, and the Illya x Miya thing wasn't anything special either, but they didn't really screw anything up as badly as they could have.

For the series overall, I'll give it a 6/10 because Rin's awesome and Archer Illya was pretty cool too. I will watch season 2 when it comes around.
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So do you think Irisviel knew about all the magical stuff going on? They kinda implied that she did but never flat out said so.

She knows.And the maids know.For some reason they changed the bath scene from "Are you scared of your own power Ilya?" to "Your friend is in danger".
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Yay cool ending. Kinda cheesy but who cares :3 Loved it and I'm more than happy that a second season was announced. Way to go with Type-moon spins-offs, remakes, adaptions or w/e!!! Way to go :3
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Slicer22 said:
I am watching it now and one thing that just jumped out at me was Miyu used Gae Bolg again which she should not of been able to use for another day. I get they extended the fight compared to the quick end to the fight after Illya turns up in the manga but they should not break the established rules of how many times the cards can be used. Also Berserker should be resistant to it since he already died to it once, though it is Gae Bolg so maybe it can get through more than once considering its power? That is a slight grey area i guess.


Its not in the manga, so my guess is that they needed some extra scenes to fill the minutes, I mean they even had to put 2wei scenes in there to fill up time. I can forgive how Gae Bolg makes two kills since technically it counts as 2 NP
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Slicer22 said:
I am watching it now and one thing that just jumped out at me was Miyu used Gae Bolg again which she should not of been able to use for another day. I get they extended the fight compared to the quick end to the fight after Illya turns up in the manga but they should not break the established rules of how many times the cards can be used. Also Berserker should be resistant to it since he already died to it once, though it is Gae Bolg so maybe it can get through more than once considering its power? That is a slight grey area i guess.


Its not in the manga, so my guess is that they needed some extra scenes to fill the minutes, I mean they even had to put 2wei scenes in there to fill up time. I can forgive how Gae Bolg makes two kills since technically it counts as 2 NP

It is one NP but t it has two attacks.It shouldnt be able to hurt him.
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ssjokg said:


It is one NP but t it has two attacks.It shouldnt be able to hurt him.


I can quote the wiki :"It is unique in that it functions in two different ways, each different enough to have them be treated as separate Noble Phantasms".

I cant vouch for its accuracy, but I think that it counts as 2
Sep 14, 2013 4:58 AM

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yo, mad haxx power
Unlimited Excalibur Works !!!

I was going to read the manga after this but since 2nd season is confirmed I might as well wait.
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AllTJAck said:
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It is one NP but t it has two attacks.It shouldnt be able to hurt him.


I can quote the wiki :"It is unique in that it functions in two different ways, each different enough to have them be treated as separate Noble Phantasms".

I cant vouch for its accuracy, but I think that it counts as 2


Actually no you are right i remember now that it did have 2 forms of attack
Gáe Bolg: Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death
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Gáe Bolg: Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death (thank you wiki)
Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death is physically more powerful and was the 2nd one Miyu used since she did throw it that time and since it is more powerful than Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death it would of probably went through Berserker's God Hand.

It has been a while so i forgot about the 2nd attack and Lancer never did use it much in Fate/Stay Night with Pierces with Death being his more iconic use of it.

I have to hand it to Silver Link for an original extension of the fight they made pretty good use of Type Moon knowledge. Though using the card for a second time is still shaky at best.
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Slicer22 said:
AllTJAck said:
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It is one NP but t it has two attacks.It shouldnt be able to hurt him.


I can quote the wiki :"It is unique in that it functions in two different ways, each different enough to have them be treated as separate Noble Phantasms".

I cant vouch for its accuracy, but I think that it counts as 2


Actually no you are right i remember now that it did have 2 forms of attack
Gáe Bolg: Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death
and
Gáe Bolg: Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death (thank you wiki)
Soaring Spear that Strikes with Death is physically more powerful and was the 2nd one Miyu used since she did throw it that time and since it is more powerful than Barbed Spear that Pierces with Death it would of probably went through Berserker's God Hand.

It has been a while so i forgot about the 2nd attack Lancer never did use it much in Fate/Stay Night and Pierces with Death is his more iconic use of it.

I have to hand it to Silver Link for an original extension of the fight they made pretty good use of Type Moon knowledge. Though using the card for a second time is still shaky at best.

I dont know...
It still is Gae Bolg.It has two attacks that can make it work as two but....It just doesnt sound right to me.

Both of the attacks are at B+.
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ssjokg said:

It still is Gae Bolg.It has two attacks that can make it work as two but....It just doesnt sound right to me.

Both of the attacks are at B+.


Well Excalibur itself can still kill Beserker twice or more, once by stabing and 7+ by Excaliblast so its similar to that...I guess.

As for the B+ thing, well the first stab was in the manga so we know that its suppose to work, so either that Alter Beserker's God Hand is weaker here or maybe somehow Second Magic Backed Gae Bolg has higher rank??
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Hm i thought B+ would be enough since it was higher than a B but then i remembered you need a rank A for it to get through God Hand. Guess we are back to being iffy at best in all areas.

If i were to say why it worked the first time then it would be down to the famous reversal of the nature of causality, but the 2nd attack does not have that so i dunno. Why the hell is Gae Bolg only rank B+ anyway it is a pretty ridiculous NP to begin with.

From the Wikia a random Q and A (this is more about Fate/Stay Night)

Q. Lancer, Caster, Assassin, and True Assassins; all with normal attack and Noble Phantasms of B or lower. If they fought against Berserker, wouldn't it be a one-sided fight? Or are there any of them that can match up against him?

A: Assassin and True Assassin by themselves wouldn't even be a fight. Lancer can use his runes and Noble Phantasm together to temporarily raise the rank to A, but it'd still be a very disadvantageous fight but "one with some chances". Caster has two front-line Saber-class defenders, so if she uses her high sorcery then she'd be able to deal damage, but that would be limited to 2 to 3 times. Also, in the game, Assassin was able to push Berserker back because of the terrain advantage and support from Caster (weighing down Berserker's body). ...Well, since the compatibility of Assassin and Berserker is horrible, the fact that Berserker was even pushed back is enough to say "whoah, Kojirou's amazing".
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