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Aug 24, 2013 7:56 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I can't help but laugh @ those artwork at school. They look weird as hell to me anyways. Haven't seen Shiro in quite awhile so was somewhat surprising to see him again I guess.

I hope Illya returns to her old self again soon though. Watching her being depressed makes me sad as well.

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Aug 24, 2013 8:08 AM

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I'm first?!...*cough cough*

Well, I hope Illya cheers up soon enough! It feels kinda strange seeing her like that. At the very least, the atmosphere isn't unexpectedly dark anymore and we aren't having anymore sudden life-or-death situations~ For now anyway.

After all, there's still one Class Card left. I wonder how the group is going to deal with Berserker, and if he'll have his God Hand ability with him... o-o
Of course, I mean that in a you-are-going-to-die kind of way.
 
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Aug 24, 2013 11:09 AM

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There is some new material.

Saberface are everywhere ! The end of the world is coming !
 
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Aug 24, 2013 12:20 PM

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I didn't expect a filler at this point.
 
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There is some new material.
It's because it wasn't in the first series but in 2wei. It's a good move in my opinion. Adds more mystery to Miyu as a followup to last episode when she was asked why she was a maid in Luvia's house.

And they're leaning more on the side of Miyu being this strong person and Illya being scared to die and less on the side of her panicking about her weird power and maybe hurting others. They followed that up with Rin asking Miyu after they left Illya which further supports that she doesn't really want Illya to get hurt and fight anymore.
It may or may not be a good move in the long run but the next episode/chapter does support this with the appearance of a certain person and their talk. They can touch about the power in the second season as that's where it gets focus.

The classmate portions were once again too much but it's a necessary padding I guess to get to the last part of the episode. I enjoyed the Sel/Leys discussion more and Shirou misinterpreting stuff.
The last episodes will be close but they can manage to fit the remaining chapters this way. Hope the animation will be as good as episode 6.
 
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Meh episode. SO I guess they will pace it out with fillers now. Should not have rushed through the material.

REALLY not okay with them altering the reason for Illya's angst. Illya's freak out about her powers highlights that its not an asspull, that htey HAVE plot significance BEYOND just being there. And we all know just HOW IMPORTANT ILLYA'S
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REALLY not okay with one of DEFINING Illya's character moments being usurped by unneeded Myu development And IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, the atmosphere of the situation is ruined by comedy filler.

Makes me worry how they will handle Zwei and Drei material.


2/5


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I didn't expect a filler at this point.


What would you expect considering they ror no reason at all rushed through stuff that would fit two episodes in previous episode.
 
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Developing a char isnt a bad thing.We have yet to see the end of the season and how they are going to handle Ilya.

A MINOR,"mess up" like that wont fuck up the story or the chars.
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Nice to see Shiro again : )
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Developing a char isnt a bad thing.We have yet to see the end of the season and how they are going to handle Ilya.

A MINOR,"mess up" like that wont fuck up the story or the chars.


Not when its at teh price of freaking LEAD CHARACTER.
 
Aug 25, 2013 7:31 AM

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Fai said:
ssjokg said:
Developing a char isnt a bad thing.We have yet to see the end of the season and how they are going to handle Ilya.

A MINOR,"mess up" like that wont fuck up the story or the chars.


Not when its at teh price of freaking LEAD CHARACTER.
You make it seem as if something VERY IMPORTANT was lost, when an important person that shows up later in this season hasnt even talk about it with Ilya yet.It doesnt matter if they "develop" her some time later.
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ssjokg said:
Fai said:
ssjokg said:
Developing a char isnt a bad thing.We have yet to see the end of the season and how they are going to handle Ilya.

A MINOR,"mess up" like that wont fuck up the story or the chars.


Not when its at teh price of freaking LEAD CHARACTER.
You make it seem as if something VERY IMPORTANT was lost, when an important person that shows up later in this season hasnt even talk about it with Ilya yet.It doesnt matter if they "develop" her some time later.


I am not talking about


I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about




Instead it all was simplified to the first case.

It turns Illya from supposed normal girl who is freaking the fuck out to a generic "protect people" shounen hero, which Illya is NOT at this point in the story.

Let's not forget hat they already
 
Aug 25, 2013 11:51 AM
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Fai said:


I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about


I think its fine, the Iris talk has yet to happen and the majority of the power talk happens then anyway
 
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AllTJAck said:
Fai said:


I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about


I think its fine, the Iris talk has yet to happen and the majority of the power talk happens then anyway
Exactly that.

As for her "escape powers"...Using Install while on trance while skipping ALL the chant is good enough.
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Aug 26, 2013 12:56 AM

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I don't think Miyu was being a bitch for the sake of it, maybe she didn't want Illya to fight anymore so as to protect her? That's what usually happens anyway.
That maid action is really nice. Makes you like the fact that the target demography is male.
 
Aug 30, 2013 2:26 AM
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Hmm so it's been almost a week but I can't find a fansub of episode 8 anywhere. Horriblesubs doesn't have one, UTW doesn't have one, and doki stopped after episode 4... am I missing something or do I need better glasses? lol
 
Aug 30, 2013 3:23 AM

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Normal girl again for Illya but she is not happy... even though Rin is kind and understanding... I think the biggest plus of this episode is to see the side characters from the maid sisters to Illya's classmates given some spotlight of humor LOL
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
 
Aug 30, 2013 11:57 AM

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Sort of a drama episode, just Illya decides if she still wants to be a magical girl or not after the previous episode incident. Miyu, still being harsh to her, needs to reconsider that she needs Illya's help from collecting the final card. Well the ending looks like it's bout to go down... Can't wait to see.

Well it is a good thing Shiro made an appearance but less screen time, and the family, well it was comedic.

 
Aug 30, 2013 12:17 PM

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Poor Illya.
 
Aug 30, 2013 12:50 PM

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Fai said:

I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about

I haven't read the manga but I think you're overreacting. It wasn't all about Miyu she realized that she's scared of dying and that it isn't fun and games. Take her words from the end of the episode.
Anyways, this was obligatory sad episode after the fallout. I felt it was kinda drawn out but succeeded in making me feel bad for Illya. I'm guessing next episode will be
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Hopefully Illya snaps out of this soon. Miyu and them are already preparing to fight the last card. It has to be more powerful then all the others.
 
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poor ilya. now that she sort of "gave up" being a magical girl i wonder how it continues now..
and i really liked the slice-of-life in this episode.
 
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Fai said:

I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about

I haven't read the manga but I think you're overreacting. It wasn't all about Miyu she realized that she's scared of dying and that it isn't fun and games. Take her words from the end of the episode.
Anyways, this was obligatory sad episode after the fallout. I felt it was kinda drawn out but succeeded in making me feel bad for Illya. I'm guessing next episode will be


In anime, Illya did her big blast wishing to protect everyone. Myuu then ridicules her for saving everyone's lives and Illya spends next episode sulking about it.

In manga



The first case points poor poor Illya depressed about loosing a friend.

The second case paints


That's the problem.
 
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Next ep's preview reminded me why I hated the art of this anime.
Kiritsugu would have a heart attack if he saw that....
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Fai said:
Baku219 said:
Fai said:

I am talking about illya's characterization.

The freak out SHOULD NOT BE ABOUT


It should be about

I haven't read the manga but I think you're overreacting. It wasn't all about Miyu she realized that she's scared of dying and that it isn't fun and games. Take her words from the end of the episode.
Anyways, this was obligatory sad episode after the fallout. I felt it was kinda drawn out but succeeded in making me feel bad for Illya. I'm guessing next episode will be


In anime, Illya did her big blast wishing to protect everyone. Myuu then ridicules her for saving everyone's lives and Illya spends next episode sulking about it.

In manga



The first case points poor poor Illya depressed about loosing a friend.

The second case paints


That's the problem.

Okay, thanks for explaining and not yelling at me because I didn't read the manga. I just thought the way the anime did it was fine but after you explained it, I agree the way it happened in the manga was better.
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Next ep's preview reminded me why I hated the art of this anime.
Kiritsugu would have a heart attack if he saw that....


Meh , as long As Iris gets to
, this artstyle is fine too.
 
Aug 30, 2013 2:41 PM
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Just hoping the next episode will come out a bit earlier but guess we will have to wait and see.
The other moment i have been waiting for will start next episode so really looking forward to it.
 
Aug 30, 2013 10:38 PM

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I'm liking it more than I thought.
Some good comedic moments and mostly serious scenes.
 
Aug 31, 2013 12:31 AM

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IRISVIEL. aw yeah.
 
Aug 31, 2013 3:20 AM

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jesus christ, I saw the preview, I wish we had that in this episode instead



 
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Fai said:
ssjokg said:
Next ep's preview reminded me why I hated the art of this anime.
Kiritsugu would have a heart attack if he saw that....


Meh , as long As Iris gets to
, this artstyle is fine too.

You know looking at her like this makes me wish they just used Ilya's art form teh FSN anime.THe change is just TOO MUCH here.I know her looks dont make her char but come on...Shirou and Iri really look weird.

I just hope that they will fix it at least a bit in 2wei.That goes for other chars too.I just dont want to see Bazett look like this.
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Sep 1, 2013 9:41 AM

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This episode could be easily shrinked into 2 minutes... And as it is it can be easily skipped without any harm. It was kinda needless to watch this.
 
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I just hope that they will fix it at least a bit in 2wei.That goes for other chars too.I just dont want to see Bazett look like this.


You do realize that if this series is successful they will keep the character designs (why change the formula when you are successful enough, look what happened to coca cola) and if the series is not successful chances are slim they will invest money in a second series (or another ova) and do a retooling of the character designs. Change in character designs are almost exclusive of series reboot/relanuch, like in Rozen Maiden.
 
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ssjokg said:
I just hope that they will fix it at least a bit in 2wei.That goes for other chars too.I just dont want to see Bazett look like this.


You do realize that if this series is successful they will keep the character designs (why change the formula when you are successful enough, look what happened to coca cola) and if the series is not successful chances are slim they will invest money in a second series (or another ova) and do a retooling of the character designs. Change in character designs are almost exclusive of series reboot/relanuch, like in Rozen Maiden.

Have you noticed while watching this series that the faces are good in some panels and in some dont look like they are chars from a Fate/ series?
That is the problem.
For most of the ep Iri was great(for this kind of char design) but in some she was like she was a different char.
IF they ever animate the rest they have to improve their designs.
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Have you noticed while watching this series that the faces are good in some panels and in some dont look like they are chars from a Fate/ series?
That is the problem.
For most of the ep Iri was great(for this kind of char design) but in some she was like she was a different char.
IF they ever animate the rest they have to improve their designs.


That is a pretty common problem, we have already noticed how some scenes are fixed from the webcast to the tv broadcast, it is only natural to expect those flaws you mention to be solved in the disc release, nowadays many studios work on the clock, even if they are doing a highly popular series like Attack on Titan (which in theory means they are not understaffed). They might not fix later on the errors you mention, but people buying the discs will notice and it might hurt sales so they have an invested interest in delivering (even if late) the best product they can create.
 
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Taiga getting more screentime is always a win
Hope the Dojo segment with Ilya returns
 
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Aww i wanna see her fight again. Bet next ep will be epic ^-^
 
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poor sella lol and Berserker next ep
 
Sep 7, 2013 12:41 AM

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Haha, Stella XD
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, and then the mood was ruined with Illya D=
 
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Damn, Miyu is arrogant. I'm like 99% sure right now that the next episode will go something along the lines of:
1. Rin, Luvia and Miyu go to the mirror world
2. They get facerolled by dark Berserker
3. Illya becomes a magic girl again and fights
4. Something something and then they're all friends again

Well, that's what would happen if this was just another predictable scenario. If that doesn't happen...then it will probably be even better <3
 
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Damn, Miyu is arrogant. I'm like 99% sure right now that the next episode will go something along the lines of:
1. Rin, Luvia and Miyu go to the mirror world
2. They get facerolled by dark Berserker
3. Illya becomes a magic girl again and fights
4. Something something and then they're all friends again

Well, that's what would happen if this was just another predictable scenario. If that doesn't happen...then it will probably be even better <3
LOL My thoughts exactly, I just didn't put it in words. Going to watch the next episode now and find out.

Also LOL at Sella and her sister.
 
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15:21 Sellachan, i don't mind at all

Sellachan's the highlight of this ep!!!
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
 
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The episode felt boring IMO, nothing much happening the best part was the boobs war and nothing much, so resignation from Illy and Miyu still doesn't give a fuck ( déja vu ?) well next episode seem good so i'll go watch it.
 
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wow i completely forgot about Shirou for a minute
 
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Minus Berser-Car card xD

Lol poor Sella.. Well, Shirou too
Sella and her sister almost turned into Yozora and Sena (Niku!!)

Wow, Ilya's mom... What's her nickname, Airi?
And now where's Kiritsugu??

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Forgetfulness said:
Damn, Miyu is arrogant. I'm like 99% sure right now that the next episode will go something along the lines of:
1. Rin, Luvia and Miyu go to the mirror world
2. They get facerolled by dark Berserker
3. Illya becomes a magic girl again and fights
4. Something something and then they're all friends again

Well, that's what would happen if this was just another predictable scenario. If that doesn't happen...then it will probably be even better <3
LOL My thoughts exactly


I'm hoping it's more than that... But that's the only one scenario that possible...
Oh, well...
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Jeez, people really do take the manga way too seriously. If you're going to freak out like that, just stop watching anime and stick to reading manga. You know it's never going to be 100% the same.

Kinda a meh episode, especially after the fight with Saber. Is it some kinda requirement that the hero always has to lose his resolve and give up his/her life of fighting, only to return when their allies are getting their asses kicked due to not having Main Character Power on their side?

It was kinda nice to see Shirou and some of the other side characters again.

Hopefully the last two episodes will be better, and the fight with Berserker is one I've been looking forward to the whole series.

3/5
 
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Jeez, people really do take the manga way too seriously. If you're going to freak out like that, just stop watching anime and stick to reading manga. You know it's never going to be 100% the same.


There's a HUGE difference between "some deviations" and "complete 180 degree change from what was supposed to happen, for absolutely no fucking reason".

Also yes, Type Moon fanbase takes their canon very seriously. That's why we have yet to have Tsukihime anime - no one in Japan is confident enough they could pull it off. That's also why only now we will be getting FSN adaptation.
 
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I know what is going on between Illya & Miyu but still Miyu is being very bit** compared to manga...
A real bitc** tsundere...
Poor Illya :(
 
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4/5

Plot that sees a rather simple structure, it has never stood for originality, so I'm not complaining now, just because the episode seems like a filler.
I just told that it is quite good, for now there is this.
Not bad break with her girlfriends, Tattsun is hilarious.
Drawings and discrete animations.
Now comes the final battle! : D
 
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The one time Shirou makes his appearance again, he gets Unlimited Fist Works right in the end.
 
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