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Mar 25, 2013 11:23 AM

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symbv said:
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Ended up practically writing an essay here on Honoka's feelings ._.'... Feel free to ignore me.
Thanks for your succinct writing and I think you have pretty nailed it as an analysis of Honoka's feeling and the general development of things in this episode. I have seen quite a bit of similar analyses in Japanese forums but not as detailed and clear as what you write here.


Yeah it's always nice to see people rationally try to parse through a characters development as it's been presented in order to determine the consistency and intrigue level of it as opposed to imposing their desires for the characters development on the show and arguing fault if those desires aren't fulfilled. Personally I'm surprised that her character went in that direction and find it unusually interesting. I mean again I'm not a frequent viewer of this type of show, but I don't get the sense that the genki girl types usually have to question their own strengths and faults as much as Honoka has over the last couple episodes of Love Live! Usually things just seem to automatically work out right away for them. I also agree with symbv that it's a matter of keeping the audience entertained and engaged, something that the producers at Sunrise usually seem to have a handle on regardless of the type of show being produced. Whether everyone can handle that sort of thing I think is totally up to the viewers own personality and rigidity or lack thereof.

Also after looking at the link posted by symbv again and struggling through the google translate I can also say it doesn't look all that much unlike a lot of Western forum posts albeit with a much greater volume of posts and general confusion as to how the blog post achieved so much feedback. Other than that the comments strike me as business as usual and about what you'd expect for a penultimate episode and as far as I know I didn't see any of those calls for boycott you sometimes hear about, though I get the sense those are only reserved for big time scandals like with Tari Tari. Not nearly as bad as something I would expect to see on 4chan after all.
Mar 25, 2013 12:29 PM

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school is saved, forfeit the love live, and kotori is leaving she lost the reason to continue.. im glad its ending next ep :)

Mar 25, 2013 2:09 PM
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Umi-chan had to smack a bitch.
Mar 25, 2013 2:28 PM

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Man dem feels guys
All of that just makes u feel down
All them tears that fell it is so sad
Hopefully they do something to make it back to be more happy
Mar 25, 2013 2:37 PM

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Well that was kind of dramatic, but it's the last conflict. Honoka is just really depressed and doesn't feel like there is a point anymore, but quitting doesn't really do anything either.

Mar 25, 2013 3:17 PM

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pikel-kun said:
Personally, I'd have been pissed too if my friend didn't tell me something like that until right before she leaves. And that slap at the end pissed me off as well. That wasn't a "slap some sense into her" moment. Felt out of place and wrong, I would have beat her ass for that slap.


lol I was wondering if someone would post that- as I figured there would be tons of hate thrown on Honoka when I can easily see why shed be acting both depressed and 'angry' the slap was misplaced - in 'reality' Umi would likely find herself slapped right back - its not as if Umi helped the situation at all. You have someone who has both accomplished their intended goal - theres a minus in motivation - learned your best friend didnt tell you something that important because you were 'busy' (seemed more like an excuse) and Umi knows and waits until the situation is untenable to finally say something..

And to be blunt after the concert I get why you cant talk with Honoka shes sick and sprained her ankle needs bit of R and R - But uh you can wait the what week or so and then talk to her if her opinion is THAT important rather then "well shes sick so no talky" and then "well we made a group decision because the chairwoman was worried and didnt wait for your opinion" Honoka really does have every reason to feel depressed - to feel betrayed - to feel angry - and to feel like everything is her fault . (We can easily go into the other characters too but im just sticking with mostly Honoka since thats where the discussion seems to almost entirely be)

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So glad Umi slapped some sense into Honoka!


She sort of missed the sense slap moment by some say earlier in Honokas monologue I would argue if you want to say Honoka was blind to everything around her as she claims Umi had the ability and Knowledge to both enlighten and inform Honoka without a bitch slap and some rather terrible insults .. By simply going to her and Dragging Kotori if she has to and 'talking' about it with Honoka.
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Mar 25, 2013 3:56 PM

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Honoka's gonna fuckin smash Umi in the face next ep holy shit it's over!
Mar 25, 2013 4:10 PM
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As people were watching a show about Cute Girls Doing Cute Things, a good story broke out. ;)
Mar 25, 2013 4:35 PM

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Wow what dramatic episode. loved it though. Seriously Honoka wtf?
Mar 25, 2013 4:50 PM

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sirwence said:
She sort of missed the sense slap moment by some say earlier in Honokas monologue I would argue if you want to say Honoka was blind to everything around her as she claims Umi had the ability and Knowledge to both enlighten and inform Honoka without a bitch slap and some rather terrible insults .. By simply going to her and Dragging Kotori if she has to and 'talking' about it with Honoka.


Sometimes when a person is that hateful towards themselves then just talking about it won't get through to them.
Mar 25, 2013 5:17 PM

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River-Chan said:
sirwence said:
She sort of missed the sense slap moment by some say earlier in Honokas monologue I would argue if you want to say Honoka was blind to everything around her as she claims Umi had the ability and Knowledge to both enlighten and inform Honoka without a bitch slap and some rather terrible insults .. By simply going to her and Dragging Kotori if she has to and 'talking' about it with Honoka.


Sometimes when a person is that hateful towards themselves then just talking about it won't get through to them.


Well that sort of ignores the larger point of the hours days .. weeks.. etc to work this out and Umi did nothing to help the situation and now the Idea to fix it is a hard slap and uncalled for insults? Umi may have earned a slap herself- we can go on abut Honoka all we want but Neither Umi nor Kotori (nor really the group on the LL pull out without even making it a full group discussion) "had it right" in any context-
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Mar 25, 2013 8:10 PM

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Cratex said:
As people were watching a show about Cute Girls Doing Cute Things, a good story broke out. ;)


lol the first mistake would be thinking Sunrise would produce a strictly cute girls doing cute things series. You just have to look at the studio resume to see the producers love pushing stories that involve the cast suffering and experiencing severe self-doubt and/or loss at some point or another, but if you want to simply take the word of someone that has seen a disproportionate amount of their stuff I can say I'm not really surprised in the slightest. I honestly wouldn't completely count out a bittersweet ending, but I still don't think it's going to happen here.

Also funny to see some people suggesting last week about Honoka dying and obviously it's a joke, but I never count out something happening when these guys are involved. We're talking a history of contempt for the mental and physical well-being of casts that far surpasses the likes of Gen Urobuchi. They especially like sucker punching whoever the main character is by essentially taking away everything they care about and either forcing them to take it back by overcoming some sort of trial of character or just altogether burning out to make sure it doesn't happen to someone else and this seems to go regardless of whatever staff is put on a project or not.
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Mar 26, 2013 12:01 AM

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symbv said:
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Ended up practically writing an essay here on Honoka's feelings ._.'... Feel free to ignore me.
Thanks for your succinct writing and I think you have pretty nailed it as an analysis of Honoka's feeling and the general development of things in this episode. I have seen quite a bit of similar analyses in Japanese forums but not as detailed and clear as what you write here.


I forgot to mention this, thanks for the website link too ^^

I made a collection of Honoka's expressions in this episode lol. It shows her gradual changes in expressions from happiness to regret to moving forward to falling into despair.

Mar 26, 2013 1:53 AM

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Mar 26, 2013 2:25 AM

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lol they brought Honoka to a crazy roller coaster ride of sorts throughout the series and then they get mad at her towards the end for finally reaching her breaking point. LOL yeah, it's entirely her fault, good job other girls.

LOL
Mar 26, 2013 2:43 AM

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They actually make more sense than her. If anyone is to blame for current situation (besides Kotori of course) it would be Honoka, other girls aren't as guilty.

I didn't like this episode (but can't deny it was good), too much drama for me, I'd prefer if this show had brighter mood. Hopefully final episode and season 2 (obvious with 18,429 sales first week) will deliver.
Mar 26, 2013 7:48 AM

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Holy shit, this is actually unexpected. Is this what happened in the original story or they just changed it? I think this could've been better with 26 episodes.

Kotori is actually leaving? I thought she won't but it looks like... Wew.

The drama here better than better than Sakurasou's
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Mar 26, 2013 10:36 AM

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awww so sad
Mar 26, 2013 2:01 PM

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after 10 episode of rage I feel out whenever I saw Honoka's dumb face, this the very first time I cared for her, and I may even love her if she slap the shit out of Umi's mega stupid face. And NO ONE TO BLAME KOTORI, NO ONE!! She's as pure as snow and never intended to do bad things in the first place. oh well
Mar 26, 2013 2:24 PM

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There's gotta be a second season! I can kinda sympathise with Honoka - if my best friend didn't tell me she was leaving the country for school until two weeks before I'd be pretty annoyed, too. Umi slapping her felt a bit over the top, but I guess she doesn't want to see all of Honoka's hard work go down the drain.

Not participating in Love Live was a big shock, especially after they got to #10. Hoping everything gets better soon T__T
Mar 26, 2013 3:24 PM

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Well, they sure do change a lot over the course of a single episode.

And there's going to have to be a lot happening in the next episode to resolve things. Otherwise, the group is just going to fall apart.

That does happen, but this series doesn't seem the sort where something like that happens.

It's been a while since I last watched 12 episodes of the same anime in a single day, but now I have to wait for the last episode. I really didn't expect to become that addicted to it.
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Mar 26, 2013 3:39 PM

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kuuderes_shadow said:

It's been a while since I last watched 12 episodes of the same anime in a single day, but now I have to wait for the last episode. I really didn't expect to become that addicted to it.


Welcome to the club then :D

You should go on youtube to search for Love Live! music. You can get addict to it as well.
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I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

After all, we already have concert footage of them in LoveLive! And Kotori is there, and Honoka... If Kotori actually leaves then this is an alternate universe... so unless this is actually a VN now and we are in the losing route... I think it will all get fixed very quickly.

They have to win it this school year because three of them are 3rd years, 17 years old which means they will graduate at the end of the year. So they have to do another LoveLive! this year even if they don't win it, they have to perform on the LoveLive! stage as IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Watch the PV videos, they are performing on the LoveLive! stage... Is it a spoiler to say I watched the PVs and listened to the FORTY SONGS THEY ALREADY RECORDED!?!

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!
Mar 26, 2013 4:02 PM

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hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

After all, we already have concert footage of them in LoveLive! And Kotori is there, and Honoka... If Kotori actually leaves then this is an alternate universe... so unless this is actually a VN now and we are in the losing route... I think it will all get fixed very quickly.

They have to win it this school year because three of them are 3rd years, 17 years old which means they will graduate at the end of the year. So they have to do another LoveLive! this year even if they don't win it, they have to perform on the LoveLive! stage as IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Watch the PV videos, they are performing on the LoveLive! stage... Is it a spoiler to say I watched the PVs and listened to the FORTY SONGS THEY ALREADY RECORDED!?!

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!

Come to think of it maybe we are getting trolled but I feel like Love Live may come in season 2 maybe.
Mar 26, 2013 4:36 PM
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hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

After all, we already have concert footage of them in LoveLive! And Kotori is there, and Honoka... If Kotori actually leaves then this is an alternate universe... so unless this is actually a VN now and we are in the losing route... I think it will all get fixed very quickly.

They have to win it this school year because three of them are 3rd years, 17 years old which means they will graduate at the end of the year. So they have to do another LoveLive! this year even if they don't win it, they have to perform on the LoveLive! stage as IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Watch the PV videos, they are performing on the LoveLive! stage... Is it a spoiler to say I watched the PVs and listened to the FORTY SONGS THEY ALREADY RECORDED!?!

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!


lol you take the fun out of the unknown (jk), but yes I agree. From the very first episode we saw who the members were, also the stage of Love Live unless that is just something else. They might have given us the ending from the start but its the work up to it that makes it fun.

I do think Kotori and Honoka will stay put. I just dont see Kotori leaving her friends and something shes grown to love same with Honoka leaving the group. More then likely we will get a resolve at the end of the episode and then tease for a second season.
Mar 26, 2013 4:39 PM

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Wow, great episode. Too bad next time will probably be the cliched "everything miraculously works out just in time" episode.
Mar 26, 2013 5:02 PM

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kuroikishi said:
Ended up practically writing an essay here on Honoka's feelings ._.'... Feel free to ignore me.


Awesome analysis and I agree 100%. I think in this context that the slap at the end was the absolute WORST think Umi could do. She did not understand at all why Honoka felt as she did and the slap is going to isolate Honoka even more. Honoka is already feeling betrayed and seeing that the group of 3 has gone to a 2 + 1 and this is going to reinforce it more. I was surprised she didn't slug her back!

And really .. Kotori may be shy but her excuse for not talking to Honoka was pretty lame. If she really wanted her advice then she should have asked it, not just informed her after it's a done deal!

Anyway .. genki girls are allowed to have bad days so they should have given her some space!!!
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kuroikishi said:


Her depression carries on to the next day, where Eri ends up talking about holding a "last live with the 9 members of µ's". That was twisting a knife in the wound, though it wasn't Eri's intention. Honoka's demotivating/insensitive words toward the group was an accumulation of all her negative thoughts that gathered the night before. It might have been actually not intended to be directed to the group, but actually to her own self. Honoka's attempt to leave the group seemed like an attempt to run away from the "last live" that she thinks she caused herself.


This. Is pretty much what I think Honoka feels that time. Well said.

I'm really hoping for a second season. It might not be as powerful as the first season but I'm sure gonna miss those girls once Love Live ends next week. ;_;
Mar 26, 2013 5:30 PM

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hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

After all, we already have concert footage of them in LoveLive! And Kotori is there, and Honoka... If Kotori actually leaves then this is an alternate universe... so unless this is actually a VN now and we are in the losing route... I think it will all get fixed very quickly.

They have to win it this school year because three of them are 3rd years, 17 years old which means they will graduate at the end of the year. So they have to do another LoveLive! this year even if they don't win it, they have to perform on the LoveLive! stage as IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED. Watch the PV videos, they are performing on the LoveLive! stage... Is it a spoiler to say I watched the PVs and listened to the FORTY SONGS THEY ALREADY RECORDED!?!

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!


lol you take the fun out of the unknown (jk), but yes I agree. From the very first episode we saw who the members were, also the stage of Love Live unless that is just something else. They might have given us the ending from the start but its the work up to it that makes it fun.

I do think Kotori and Honoka will stay put. I just dont see Kotori leaving her friends and something shes grown to love same with Honoka leaving the group. More then likely we will get a resolve at the end of the episode and then tease for a second season.


Sorry, I am a real buzzkill today, aren't I? LOL

I agree though, forget the PVs, the nine of them are shown on the LoveLive! stage in the OP every episode, duh! How did I forget that? I guess you watch it 12 times or more and you forget. So we all know the nine of them perform at LoveLive! They have to, Have To, HAVE TO!

And I agree, the journey is more important than the destination here. It has been a wonderful journey and I hope it isn't over yet!
Mar 26, 2013 8:06 PM

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I'm sadden that Kotori is leaving...

Can she just postpone her plans and wait till she graduates?

Come on!
Mar 27, 2013 12:07 AM

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i hope for a second season
Mar 27, 2013 6:54 PM

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Mr. Director, good work!

5/5
Mar 27, 2013 6:56 PM

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NOOOOOO......
why honoka become like that?!?!?!?!?!

u's at their critical point
Mar 27, 2013 9:23 PM

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What the...
This show is supposed to be happy! Talk about mood whiplash! Good episode nonetheless.

Quite a few people are pissed off at Honoka after this episode, but I can sympathize with her, especially when shit keeps happening to her in quick succession like this.

Well, I hope everything works out for them in the end.
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dont care what everyone else thinks

honoka, you truly are a fucking IDIOT
Mar 28, 2013 8:36 PM

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hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!
You are the only one? I am sure you are far from the only one. I believe most watchers believe neither Honoka nor Kotori will leave. I mean, this anime is supposed to be a story about Muse's early days and the current situation is that Muse is active and releasing CD singles (a deliberate mixing of the 2D and 3D worlds), so Muse's breaking up is totally unthinkable. The main issue is how they will turn around the drama, much heavier than many had expected, and provide an ending that re-confirm the positive spirit of Muse and the bonding between the girls. I don't think there should be any doubt about whether Muse will stay as a 9-member group. It is more about how they get back to that and start looking forward again.

As for the LoveLive event, there are many ways to deal with it - I personally prefer leaving it open and ends the series by them going back to their original starting point: performing before a full-house hall, instead of rushing everything about how they fare in the LoveLive tournament. But of course other kinds of endings regarding the tournament are also possible.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.

So the only question for me is... will they fix all this up and resolve it next episode or next season? Mark my words, Kotori isn't leaving before they win LoveLive! and neither is Honoka!
You are the only one? I am sure you are far from the only one. I believe most watchers believe neither Honoka nor Kotori will leave. I mean, this anime is supposed to be a story about Muse's early days and the current situation is that Muse is active and releasing CD singles (a deliberate mixing of the 2D and 3D worlds), so Muse's breaking up is totally unthinkable. The main issue is how they will turn around the drama, much heavier than many had expected, and provide an ending that re-confirm the positive spirit of Muse and the bonding between the girls. I don't think there should be any doubt about whether Muse will stay as a 9-member group. It is more about how they get back to that and start looking forward again.

As for the LoveLive event, there are many ways to deal with it - I personally prefer leaving it open and ends the series by them going back to their original starting point: performing before a full-house hall, instead of rushing everything about how they fare in the LoveLive tournament. But of course other kinds of endings regarding the tournament are also possible.


I meant in this thread, I seem to be the only one saying, "this can't be." I watch legit on Crunchyroll so I am a few days behind everyone else on this series so by the time I read this episode's comments I fully expected to come into this thread and see everyone saying, "sure, sure... they're going to leave, yeah right!! Psych!" but instead I see people who are so engaged in the story that they believe they might break up.

I guess this is a sign of how well they have done the anime. Even though it is "The beginning of u's", people are so caught up in it, it is like it is happening in real time...

I agree, if LoveLive! really is a twenty round tournament or what did they say? Then they could do a Idol/Sports anime second season which is mostly just the LoveLive! tournament rounds with the finale battle between u's and Arise as the final episode. When can I preorder that??? LOL
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symbv said:
hpulley said:
I seem to be the only one who thinks we're being MAJORLY trolled by the show. THINK about it!!!

It is what I expected anyways, to take us to the brink of despair... and then, miraculously next week Kotori won't go abroad to study fashion after all or at least not until next year rather than in two weeks; Honoka will un-quit, they will be back in LoveLove!... or in season 2 they will win it.
You are the only one? I am sure you are far from the only one. I believe most watchers believe neither Honoka nor Kotori will leave. I mean, this anime is supposed to be a story about Muse's early days and the current situation is that Muse is active and releasing CD singles (a deliberate mixing of the 2D and 3D worlds), so Muse's breaking up is totally unthinkable.


Just thought I should point out, there are a lot of anime viewers such as my self who, for those shows that are based on some other source (light novel, visual novel, manga, or whatever), know nothing of the source material, usually don't care, and are just watching the anime because watching anime is our hobby. When I watch an episode of Love Live! all I know and care about is what happens in the show I'm watching.

Now, having said that, that does NOT automatically mean I expect or don't expect one thing or another to happen in a story. In particular, regarding what you guys are talking about right now I really don't have any expectation at all regarding what will happen to those two girls. I'm just waiting for the next episode to see what happens.

That doesn't mean I don't recognize that a lot of people like some of you here ARE fans of whatever source material a show may be based on and have a lot of knowledge of and expectations regarding what will happen or what they think should happen. However, I DO occasionally get annoyed when people seem to think that EVERYBODY should have the same point of view when they watch a show, and sometimes I get really exasperated (a good example is Little Busters, where fans of the Visual Novel basically hijacked the anime forums to bitch about how the anime was not the Visual Novel - well, DUH - it's not the visual novel and I don't care - stop telling me the Little Busters anime is shit because it is not the exactly like the Visual Novel).

We're all coming at this with very different backgrounds and expectations and I want to remind people of that :)
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^ Well, my using the Muse's current CDs is just one argument that I use to buttress my expectation that the series will end on a high note and good end. But even without that, I would still keep that expectation, just like I expect Miho will win at the end in Girls und Panzer and prevent her school from closing down. You are free to have your expectation, I have my own expectation - it just happens that I think my expectation would be helped by what I know about the CDs released by Muse, that's it.

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I meant in this thread, I seem to be the only one saying, "this can't be."
Well, I just avoided making comments on that part and focused more on the actions and reactions of the characters. And I don't think I am the only one thinking the same as you do.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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symbv said:
^ Well, my using the Muse's current CDs is just one argument that I use to buttress my expectation that the series will end on a high note and good end. But even without that, I would still keep that expectation, just like I expect Miho will win at the end in Girls und Panzer and prevent her school from closing down. You are free to have your expectation, I have my own expectation - it just happens that I think my expectation would be helped by what I know about the CDs released by Muse, that's it.

hpulley said:
I meant in this thread, I seem to be the only one saying, "this can't be."
Well, I just avoided making comments on that part and focused more on the actions and reactions of the characters. And I don't think I am the only one thinking the same as you do.


Agreed. my only "source material" here is the CDs and BD concerts (live and the anime PV music video disc) and the show's own OP which shows the 9 girls competing at LoveLive! I have not read the manga. Since the music and BD discs came out to promote this show (all since it was announced) I don't consider any of them to be spoilers.

HOWEVER, if my post spoiled anyone or everyone for the end of the season episode which I haven't even seen yet (so for all I know I'm wrong and the girls have left and they've broken up... but I doubt it) then I'm sorry... that was not my intent.
Mar 29, 2013 1:25 PM
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You are free to have your expectation, I have my own expectation
I expect if I have another glass of sake I'll get over myself ;)

(I should avoid posting at work during lunch when I'm rushed and in a bad mood)

hpulley said:
HOWEVER, if my post spoiled anyone or everyone for the end of the season episode which I haven't even seen yet (so for all I know I'm wrong and the girls have left and they've broken up... but I doubt it) then I'm sorry... that was not my intent.
40 lashes with a wet noodle!
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hpulley said:
HOWEVER, if my post spoiled anyone or everyone for the end of the season episode which I haven't even seen yet (so for all I know I'm wrong and the girls have left and they've broken up... but I doubt it) then I'm sorry... that was not my intent.
40 lashes with a wet noodle!


40 lashes??? Harsh... LOL
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They cant give up of love live like this... i refuse believe that they went down in ranking, perharps they will be called for a special in love live or something...

I think Honoka asked 1 time to her friend what was going on, but she said "nothing"... So honoka is not totally guilty :/


so sad
sigh..
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They way the writers create drama in this show has slightly started to irk me. It's always implied that an adversity has severe consequences and then they later reveal that it wasn't that big of a deal after all. Just like the first live bombing and here Honoka collapsing.

Still, I'll hope they'll pull something similar to that effect in the next episode.
The worst case scenario: The whole Love Live School Idol Project goes out with a bang, though that would just be awful marketing.
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They cant give up of love live like this... i refuse believe that they went down in ranking, perharps they will be called for a special in love live or something...


Their ranking didn't go down. The girls made a decision not to participate, so they are no longer ranked at all.
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That was a bit harsh, Umi.

The look on everyone's faces when Honoka made that announcement! I guess the ending is going to be super happy since this ep attempts to drag the mood down.
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OK, I have more information about the last episode. It is not a synopsis or story details but I consider it a big spoiler so if you do not want to know anything about what will happen in the last episode, DO NOT open the Spoiler tag:

symbvMar 30, 2013 9:16 PM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
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OK, I have more information about the last episode. It is not a synopsis or story details but I consider it a big spoiler so if you do not want to know anything about what will happen in the last episode, DO NOT open the Spoiler tag:



Wow, you have your sources! amazon doesn't show that yet... very cool though! Can't wait!
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OMG Umi I love you!! Thank you for slapping that stupid ungrateful little bitch. Seriously Honoka, stop thinking about yourself. It's her fault the performance got ruined, I don't care if everyone says it's not cause it is, by overworking herself even though she knew what could happen. And now she's bitching after Kotori..

I'd rather have the best friend leaving, then be the best friend leaving. At least she has her other best friend Umi and the rest of Muse with her. Poor Kotori has to be by herself and you make her feel like shit. SHAME ON YOU. D:< (And yes I can say this because I lost my best friend like that) And there is such things as PHONES. Not like they're never talking to each other again. I lost all contact with my BF. So really Honoka has it good. I'm just really pissed off at her right now and she better redeem herself.
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leave it to honoka ti finally give nico a scene I liked.
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