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| If you think using planets as weapons epic, wait till you watch Gurren Lagann...moving planets is nothing. But wow amazing ending. Enduring Gunbuster was worth it for the tie-in in the last few minutes. I have to admit, I enjoyed this more than Gunbuster... The concept of losing the Topless ability and how society treats one differently, and the twist with the 'real' space monsters/Nono's identity - I found more interesting than the themes in the first series which from what I remember is mainly humans are parasites. Also having recently gotten into anime, the animation style was way too old for me (round robots etc) whereas this series seems very fresh even for its time. Only complaints are - characters didnt get developed enough, too much random fanservice, rushed ending didnt make sense. And also if I didn't watch gunbuster first, the ending wouldn't mean anything to me. Overall I enjoyed it. To anyone else who liked the ending, I'd definately recommend TTGL - same feeling but way more epic and fleshed out. |
Murbella said: no she didn't just protect the earth, but the whole universe, because see the singularity would have trigger a big bang which would create a new universe over the current one ( ex. like reformatting a computer ) and how she did that was she used what was left from diebuster and warped the singularity into an alternate universe essentially erasing her existence, there was no "hiding" involvedThe bit with nono was handled poorly for the most part. The series seems to suggest she dies protecting the earth from the singularity, seemingly with the anti space monster machines it looked like. If that is the case, why did she die, couldn't she hide behind them too? Murbella said: I'm pretty sure Lark was crying when she woke up, the scenes after were 10 years later so I'm sure everyone else was done moping over her sacrifice This is only made worse by the instant switch of focus. Protagonist dies protecting the earth, nobody cares, Murbella said: I thou the ending was well done, made me feel the same as the first OVA, but seeing you didnt like the first one either I guess we can agree to disgree.oh then the main characters from the previous series come back! 8/10 overall i loved the installment thou you have to watch the first one to understand the ending ( it is a sequel thou so no complaints ) |
suprhiroJul 30, 2010 7:13 PM
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| Thank god this series is over. The last scene was the only thing that made this series worth watching. The first series was better. 3-4/10 ☺ Awful Anime with pretty animation |
TuzoAnimeJun 18, 2010 9:41 PM
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| I wish I hadn't known in advance that it takes place about 12000 years later. Nono's sacrifice was depressing, but Noriko's return had zero impact on me. Least satisfying ending I've seen in a while. |
| This is, without a doubt, the best ending I've seen in any anime. |
| Awesome ending. But the fact that Gainax didn`t show Noriko and Amano in Diebuster was kind of disappointing though. I wanted a modern version of them badly... |
| I knew it was going to end as it did, but I still liked it a lot. :) I just love how Aim for the Top always makes things big, large, huge and epic. And just as the first season, this one improved in the last three episodes. |
| I feel slow, Diebuster felt like it didn't compare at all to Gunbuster. Especially at the end, things got a little too convoluted for me. I somewhat liked the ending, but I don't understand it at all. |
KevinDaGe said: Awesome ending. But the fact that Gainax didn`t show Noriko and Amano in Diebuster was kind of disappointing though. I wanted a modern version of them badly... +1! I wanted see Lal'C talking about Nono with Noriko and Amano. I liked so much diebuster. 10/10 for me, top 5 in my personal list. Thanks gainax for another masterpiece. |
| Yes... another amazing Gainax ending. Just like Gunbuster, the first few eps were so-so. But the second half really picked it up and turned the epic on. The final tie-in was man tear inducing. Gainax is definitely top 3 for me as far as studios go. |
| I really wished they shows Noriko and Kazumi!!! The ending was nice except I wish Nono survived. It was a great show overall, I love Gainax and their animation...I just wish Nono had been there at the end too :( Great show, sad they didn't animate Noriko and Kazumi but overall great OVA from Gainax. |
| I have to say I enjoyed this more than Gunbuster. Even if it was more nonsensical. Tie in was decent, but wish they had shown Noriko and Amano getting out of the wreckage and walking on the earth once again. Good shows but they both had a rushed feel. May have been a bit of a stretch, but a full 12 ep season of each would have been a lot better imo. |
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| I liked Gunbuster a lot more than this series. I didn't really like the characters in Diebuster but the ending made it all worth it. That ending was just awesome. So I guess Nonoriri = Noriko? |
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| That one of the best endings ever! I LOVED how they tied it to Gunbuster, simply brilliant! Well the OVA overall i didn't like it much, the characters, the story, i don't know too unrealistic? And did Nono die? And how did she know Noriko? I liked Gunbuster quite a bit more as well, but this was a fun ride. Originally was gonna give a 7 but i enjoyed the last 2 episodes a lot so 8/10. |
| I came in with the expectation that it wasn't going to be a Gunbuster duplicate and I didn't come out disappointed. Things started out pretty shallow, but by the end, everything came out fantastic. That ending brought me to tears, man. 9/10 What Gurren Lagann? |
| Great ending. Gunbuster was definitely better overall: Better characterization and plot for sure. But Diebuster is a totally different beast and I think it was quite well-done. Some confusing moments here and there and the first three episodes are slow (just like the predecessor) but the pathos in the last two episodes was great, and the ending was just as bittersweet and saddening as Gunbuster's. Also, for what she lacked in depth, I really liked Nono. She was such an entertaining character with a zest for life, taking joy in almost every little thing. I wish she had a better motivation for becoming a pilot, but at least the explanation of her immense power made sense (even if it seemed a little convenient). 8/10 |
| Apparently Jupiter (as the core of Buster Machine III in Gunbuster) and Jupiter 2 (episode 5 of this series) is not enough, they have to resort to using Earth as a weapon too! XD IMHO the ending of this episode was the cake and other episodes before this were all just an icing for me. I'm a bit biased because I liked Gunbuster better than Diebuster and since I just recently watched Gunbuster before this, I still had the lingering feeling of sympathy for Kazumi and Noriko seeing 12,000 years in the future after all they've done. Besides, seeing the welcoming sequence for them from the other side was interesting. |
| You see there's no need to wonder where your god is, Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy. |
| Was wondering if they were going to somehow tie the ending to Gunbuster's, and then they do. Well, that was beautifully done, if I may say so myself. And the whole last episode, overall, was epic as well. I had this at a 6, since I wasn't really into the first couple of episodes, but Nono and the last episode were great. So, guess I'll give Diebuster a 7. |
| That ending... That fucking ending!!! That made the series for me! Both series, I think were fantastic, I really can't pick a fav of the two. There was a lot that confused me, for example Nono leaving the fight then later coming back as Diebuster. I would like an explination but... Y'know, Gainax is Gainax xD I give this a 10/10 Definitely in my top 5 of all time =) I feel very sorry for Noriko and Kazumi, going back to Gunbuster their whole ordeal from when they were recruited to the final mission must of been in a time frame of at least 1 year... Damn light speed... It fucks up peoples lives xD Next up~ Gunbuster VS Diebuster =) |
ZepwichJun 9, 2011 7:22 PM
| I definitely agree with what I've read above. The ending was the best part of the show. Good anime have great endings but great anime keep you pulling all the way through. This show did not meet my incredibly high expectations until the 5th episode. It was really interesting how Nono kept saying nonoriri was just an ordinary girl. I realized at the very end that she was talking about Noriko and that the scene where she was found in the meteor and said "no-no-ri-ri-ko" she was talking about noriko and all that she had remembered while being wholed up there on the ateroid. That was my favorite part of the series, and how Lark and Tycho looked way more normal as adults. I agree that the sacrificing the earth concept was extremely enticing. I hope to see something like that somewhere again. Lame fanservice in the beginning, annoying characters and lack of depth for the first three episodes brought this down to a 7 for me. |
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| So why exactly did they have to hurl Earth at the monster? Couldn't they have chucked Venus at it? It's roughly the same mass, and would be much less of a bother to humanity to lose the 2nd planet from the sun than our own homeworld. Humanity in this series seems to regard its fellow planets as so much weaponry to be tossed around. Of course, when you're dealing with huge space-monsters crawling out of black holes, what else are you gonna combat it with? Giant-sized Nono, apparently. I really want a 2' tall Non figure of her final Diebuster form, that was badass as hell :D It was sad to see her die, but Onee-sama survived to unite the endings of the two series. It was pretty sweet that they ended at the same time, with the original Gunbuster returning home ... though they fucked up in seperating it, since the Gunbuster was more than half gone and only had one power core. So unless one of the two girls jettisoned the other ... ah well, I'm thinking too hard prolly :P Awesome series, both get a 9/10 :) |
| Nono and Lal'c spent all that time fighting over planet Earth then destroyed the giant enemy alien monster with a single kick? wft!? Nono wasn't even in her giant form. I feel cheated out of an epic battle. I wished they spent a little more time explaining the origins of Nono and the man-made "alien" protectors than focusing on Lal'c's insecurities. Why did they evolve to treat humans as a threat? Also why are the real alien monsters so bent on destroying mankind? And finally why did that giant alien appear when Noriko already took care of it 12,000 years ago? If they would have taken just a little time to explain these through out the story it would have been a masterpiece. Instead we're left with a bunch of "huh wtf?". Anyways, loved that giant crater on the moon that "Super" Nono made. There will be legends of her for eons to come. Overall 8/10. |
| Not much to say here... ending was awesome, fighting scenes and animations were top notch. Everything else were meh.. For me, Gunbuster > Diebuster great series.. not one regret was felt that day |
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| Yep, I agree with most of the comments here: the ending was fantastic. |
| The ending of Gunbuster on Earth's side. Awesome. I was a fool, not watch these 2 series before... |
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| Two words: THAT ENDING! Other that, I felt the Topless made the anime kinda boring and alienated us from relating to mankind's dire situation, but then again, if it was different I don't know if the ending would do such a great impact on me like it did. Gets a great(9) from me, for Nono, awesomeness scale, TwN references and of course, for that ending. |
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| I wasn't expecting much from this series when compared to the original and infact i was well ready to give it a bare pass in my books of 5 but honestly that ending made the entire show for me. ~Diebuster pilot uniform ~Diebuster cockpit ~Noriko and Kazumi returning from space ~Welcome home message ~Noriko shirt rip tribute Well i can definitely say that the spaghetti was spilt while watching it. |
Why you didn't listen, don't you want to live a real life, a life not centred around false hopes and disappointments? "Grow up", move on, you are not a kid any-more, its time to be someone. Apathy is death, worse than death. ~Self-promoting summary of EoE~ |
| The ending completely made the show, awesome tie in. But how did Nono and Norilo know each other i wonder. |
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| I looove anime endings with X years later ..where we get see the grown up heroes of the story meet their happy/sad endings ^_^ just so guuud |
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| Incredible ending. Definitely makes the series worth watching. :) |
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| pay attention to what nono said in epi 5 around 13:20 pretty sure that story was about her self and that means she much be the last of her kind in that form anyway. she hasnt directly seen noriko its more like shes recored in her memory for her to know about her and the old guy did say something about her being built long long ago and she could be thousands if not ten thousands of years old thats why she lost her memories |
TakalaJul 1, 2013 11:15 PM
After I Crush Your Dreams...... Your Bones Will Follow...... |
| a good ending but i agree with most other people, the series didnt really pick up till the end of ep 4, and even still, it never reached gunbusters level nevertheless, a good watch in the end. i see they took a lot of concepts that didnt fit too well in diebuster and perfected them with ttgl |
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skudoops said: This is good, nothing great though, especially compared to the original. I felt the theme of the buster shows was lost because of how ridiculous the action sequences were, not to mention, the character development wasn't AS good this time around. The excessive fanservice also got to me a bit. not to mention that none of the mech designs were anywhere near the level of the gunbuster mech, and the only thing that made this ending good was that it was literally the ending for gunbuster from a different angle. as i said before, everything this tried but didnt quite do right, ttgl took and perfected |
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| Warp tech was sealed and auto-defense system was introduced after Top wo nerae 1 timeline. Humanity was tired of war after endless war with space monsters and with Sirius Alliance, so they gave up pioneering extra-solar space. But you know, you don't really need to care those settings, it's just a rite-of-passage story with SF action. |
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skudoops said: Yeah, I noticed they also used the voice of the Angels from EVA rebuilds here to. But you are right, this really seems like a prototype of TTGL but TTGL trumps it in every aspect. I felt gunbuster despite being super robot as well, had a much more grounded approach to. TOPLESS and warping mechs seemed a bit much, but what also confused me was why they used earth and not another planet? I also feel like replacing the power supplies of the mechs with children was quite a stretch, and a forced way to remove the option of creating another black hole like back then. Now why would humanity even throw away such knowledge? Who knows. The purpose of the automated defense line also confused me. What exactly was it for? Did humanity give up on expanding outside of its solar system or was it merely a wall to fall back to anytime they needed? Either way I can't see such a large defense grid being ignored to the point where no one knows about it. To me, I felt there's way too many questions about why things are the way they are in the future. Not to mention the sense of loss was gone from the first gunbuster. I felt that the aging of the characters and lack of for Noriko was one of the strongest points in the original. It truly made you feel for her. The ending although it was supposed to be happy, was a tragic one for me. Noriko came back to Earth but didn't have anything to actually return to. All her friends but amuno (who was 15 or so years older than her) were long gone and all those who she served with/under were also no longer there. agreed, diebuster just got a bit too silly at times. i wnet in completely unspoiled and it looked great for the first few minutes. then we got to the part where nono is working in a bar, gets semi molested by a robot..thing and then lacl pulls a sticker off her head and out pops a mech hand. it was just stupid, not in a ttgl 'holy shot thats fucking awesome' way either. and gunbuster felt so much more grounded, it kept a decent scifi aspect, worked time dilation into the plot (and all its effects and implications) beautifully, and the characters were all great. and when gunbuster finally shows up (such an iconic scene) and wrecks shit, you really feel the impact. then once they use buster unit 3 you realize that its the end of the line if this doesnt work, setting up for one of the best scenes ive ever seen in a mech show (gunbuster descending into the core and using its own degeneracy reactor as a catalyst to set off the chain reaction for a black hole) whereas diebuster on the other hand just felt like asspulls. oh, this giddy teen girl is actually a buster unit capable of slicing a moon in 2. dix neuf can now use planets like goku uses a spirit bomb. oh, throwing a planet at the space monster didnt work. heres a great idea, lets abandon earth and use that as something to throw at it again oh. nono is now a planet sized mech. now shes become a transcendent pair of hands that can contain a splittig black hole. i have to give it points for trying, but none of the concepts really worked for the type of show it was, and it was too short of a series to build on anything that potentially could have worked (hence why ttgl with its 27 episodes and over the top setting to boot worked so much better) and not to mention the soundtrack, gunbusters ending soundtrack, especially as they reach earth and realize that not only is everyone they knew dead, their children's children's children x500 are all also dead, and the life and era they lived in is quite literally past ancient history, then the guitar riff as the earth lights up with the welcome back message. powerful stuff. diebuster didnt have any of that. although, one thing i did prefer in diebusters favor was the space monster sound and design, that part was done very well. |
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| I found this on this video, if anyone is curious about the scientific lessons, it's not subbed though: |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Cabron said: I found this on this video, if anyone is curious about the scientific lessons, it's not subbed though: never knew these existed, shame they arent subbed. |
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| This video*, Typo. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Cabron said: This video*, Typo. what? |
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