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May 26, 2010 10:47 AM

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Illuminis said:
Yeah the pop music choice was a bit strange, but I think it has it's implications. It was right before the festival, a cheery mood should have been present. Then right at the moment where Hagu's life changed, the music cut off, with the sound of glass shattering. I think it was meant to show how fragile happiness is, how everything can change in an instant.


Yeah, god forbid that someone would use their heads and, I don't know think that maybe there was a reason for the choice of music.
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Jun 16, 2010 4:20 PM

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Hagu is the character I can relate to the most from this anime.
And this episode was a good old brain**ck for me. It is awesome, so moving.
Hope she and Takemoto will be together.
Jun 24, 2010 2:51 PM

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I can also relate most to Hagu. The thought of never drawing again is the most terrifying for me.. I really hope her hand heals.
And how could no one call Morita?!!!!?!?!
Aug 29, 2010 5:27 PM

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vearg said:
for a painter to lose her right hand?!?!?

And what about 'for a woman to lose her face'? I mean now she has scars.

Nothing wrong with music, 5/5.
Oct 14, 2010 12:11 AM

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I like how the Hagu event totally eclipses Morita revenge GET!
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Nov 7, 2010 12:09 PM

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Still beats season one
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Mar 12, 2011 10:15 PM

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Wow i would have much rather her die then not be able to let her draw again thats just cruel :(
May 16, 2011 6:05 AM

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I was kind of disappointed it wasn't a suicide attempt as well...but this way works just fine. This series is finally flexing its emotional muscle, should make for an outstanding ending!
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May 19, 2011 12:09 PM
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Poor Hagu-chan i hope her hand heal and she can draw i just cried about hagu
Aug 26, 2011 11:23 AM

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Strangely enough, with forebodings from two episodes the accident itself when it did happen does not feel groundbreaking to me. It's not the case of broken happiness either, as Hagu does not have hers yet. It is yet unclear to me if the situation was meant to ruin her or to put pressure on the matter of choice (I think it's latter). Now life or death is on a fingertip, as we are shown shortly before how Hagu clearly states in her mind that drawing is her life. What is the question now is not if she is to draw for life in art or as a hobby at home but if she is willing to live to draw again. Shuu-chan tells her the deal and we finally know that her restoration is not impossible and yet is not certain. It is in situations like this the person's will becomes a decisive factor. And this is hard because Hagu is not strong, was not strong and does not see herself being strong even. She does not have to be the way she understands it (not burdening anyone), but this she didn't recognize. She didn't actually lose her hand or her eyes but she has to regain her hand in a lengthly process of a few months. Will she bother?
I'd like Morita and Takemoto to go and make some difference here.

nuclear_skies said:

And what about 'for a woman to lose her face'? I mean now she has scars.


Takemoto will love her regardless, as well as Shuu-chan. That aside she is an artist first and foremost and does not have a beingness of a woman to be hurt much by losing one of it's attributes.
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Jan 7, 2012 9:15 AM

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Poor Hagu-chan :( I almost cried.... Hope she'll recover....
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May 20, 2012 12:41 AM
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I was also expecting Hagu to have either killed herself or attempted to commit suicide. However, you can sort of look at it in two ways... This could be worse than killing herself since her passion of drawing and creating art might be taken away if her hand doesn't fully recover. But, you could also see it as a sort of blessing in disguise if you put it in the sense that, if she can't draw she won't have that enormous amount of pressure which has really taken a toll on her.
May 21, 2012 12:42 PM

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The music is kinda surprising.

It gives off somewhat like a "tension" vibe with it's fast beat and ended with a sound of glass shattering which seems fine to me.

There must be a reason for that choice of song as someone said.

As for Hagu, I hope she can have her talented hands again.
Jun 17, 2012 4:44 PM

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StormViruz said:
The music is kinda surprising.

It gives off somewhat like a "tension" vibe with it's fast beat and ended with a sound of glass shattering which seems fine to me.

There must be a reason for that choice of song as someone said.

As for Hagu, I hope she can have her talented hands again.


It's a very good choice of music, and those who disagree simply do not understand how cinema works. Think about it, they did something special, not the same old cliched sad song, but an upbeat song that provokes danger. Other than that, it also made the viewer realize she won't die. That's not the whole point of the accident. It was to trigger the whole affair with Morita and Takemoto.
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Jun 18, 2012 11:34 AM

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Why did something tragic have to happen right now? This is just so sad. I get the feeling that she will never be able to paint again. I hope I'm wrong.
Jul 13, 2012 11:00 PM

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Hagu... Don't kill yourself if you can't paint. Please. I can't bear to see you go in that direction.
Sep 9, 2012 6:41 PM

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Forced drama.
Nov 18, 2012 9:39 AM

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Hagu :'( HAGUUUU!!! Damn sad that this must happen so late in the anime really tear jerking! And damn those 2 brothers finally took back their fathers company! They've worked for so long and finally got their goal!

I really wonder what the next episodes will bring us! I so hope we'll see Hagu in a good state again!
Nov 26, 2012 9:23 AM

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Kaoru doesnt seem happy even though he has taken over the company.
Revenge is never a happy thing I guess.

Umm, so I guess Hagu cant draw again. That's terrible
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Mar 24, 2013 1:46 AM

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Great story of Moritas family.

...And wretched cheap drama with this little bitch Hagu.
May 30, 2013 2:22 PM

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I thought that it would be Hagu killing herself (which would have actually not been out of place had it happened) but it turns out it was just an accident. It’s sort of like what happened with Takemoto when he had to find his own identity once his job of taking care of his mom had finished and passed onto Kazuo. Obviously it’s on a much greater level; Hagu has been a prodigy all her life and now to have lost sensation in the hand she uses to create, it’s going to be extremely difficult to find a purpose again, especially if she was as attached to it as we saw.

So Kaoru was able to get his revenge by taking back his father’s company at the expense of breaking his promise. Morita is able to handle it better since it seems he stayed true to his promise and didn’t care for revenge but simply helped out.
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Aug 13, 2013 8:30 PM

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holy shit! this is getting sad. It made me a bit teary. I choked when i saw them moving the glass thing. I felt something bad was gonna happen. I think i'm going to watch the rest of this at night cuz it'll probably have more tearjerker moments and i don't want my roommate seeing these man tears.
Aug 20, 2013 3:38 AM
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imo first season was better
Aug 30, 2013 6:53 PM

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At least Hagu-chan didn't die.
She can still use her left arm to do her art stuff. There a lot of people with difficulties in this world that overcomes them.

Nov 20, 2013 10:13 PM

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omg... that was so sad. my dad was really talented with his hands and had a similar injury... needed surgery the nerves in his hand and unfortunately he lost a lot of its functioning :( it's really heartbreaking
Apr 17, 2014 2:55 AM

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Frohike said:
Yeah the music was definitely o_O Someone must be about to die: they're playing j-pop disco! >.>

And @xxjanism, thanks for spoiling. Very nice.


LOL. I couldn't agree more.
Dec 18, 2014 1:11 AM

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Ha. Haha. Ahahahahaha.

I assumed the worst case scenario. ._.

This still isn't good though. Her right hand might be permanently disabled.

Hagu said:
Ah, God... If I were ever to stop drawing, at that moment I will return my life to you.


Kaoru is pretty messed up. Destroying that man's life won't right any wrongs...
Jan 5, 2015 1:39 AM

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Oh no! Now Hagu won't be able to draw/paint/sculpt properly/at all so there's no point in her going to Nagano. Now she can live happily ever after with Morita/Takemoto!

Yay!

Fuck that shit. Cheap shitty plot device.
Feb 5, 2015 3:34 PM

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Gosh.. Hagu once said that "she will return her life to God once she won't be able to draw/paint again". Well looking at how this is going, she might be the one who put an end to her own life...
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Apr 21, 2015 5:38 AM

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My little fairy, Hagu. Don't give up on the state. Each episode feels like giving unexpected surprises
Apr 22, 2015 4:08 AM
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I really enjoy seeing how mature Hagu have become from inside and out.
Geez, that glass scene gave me chills. Felt like something from a scary movie and music was weird as well.
Mayama being creepy stalker again... -_- I enjoyed seeing him making friends with that spanish guy.^^
Wow, Kaoru got carried away with his revenge plan. Sure, that guy deserved having company taken away from him but why go so far as crushing his whole life? His son and grandchildren also have nothing to do with this. Its obvious how Shinobu wasnt pleased with situation. At the end, i feel sorry for Kaoru. So many years were spent harbouring that revenge plan and now that the day has come he realised that instead of happiness he attained emptiness.

As for Hagu, it is incredibly DEVASTATING that she might not be able to use her right hand for drawing again. However.... that may sound harsh for some of you BUT IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. TRUST ME, IT COULD BE WORSE. She could die for heavens sake; instead of one arm her two arms could be damaged or her face, her vision, legs etc.. John Bramblitt is an artist who turned blind 3 years ago and started painting after that. He is widely recognised and his work is AMAZING. Another painter after loosing both of her arms used her mouth to draw.

Even in the the worst scenario Hagu will still be able to draw with her left hand. So,THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR HER.
Jun 13, 2015 2:42 PM

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She is alive, she won't be able to paint, but at least she is alive.
Jun 30, 2015 3:01 PM

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shit happens

like with that choice of song

goddamn fuckin A

the story's jumping all over the place to build a gigantic fan for all the shit in the world to hit it

this show's getting REEEEAL fucking intense and WAY different from how it was in the previous season

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Jul 10, 2015 6:53 AM

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I'm glad they got their fathers company back.

Poor Hagu though, it would be her hand that got injured. But will she find it to be a blessing or a burden? If she can't draw any more then maybe she will actually be happier without all this pressure everyone keeps putting on her to be brilliant. She could just go out and live in Nagano still and live a simple life of simple pleasures.

I wonder what will happen.
Oct 3, 2015 12:13 PM

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"Oh right....This is reality."
Episode 7 and 8 have been very heavy, and hit me hard.
The grey of autumn, the bitter cold...it reflects the somber tone of these episodes.
My heart is a tangled mess of emotions right now...this anime is too real.
Hagu...
The song choice during the glass incident had a big impact. It was upbeat, but haunting... every moment is fleeting and everything can change in one split second.
The soundtrack overall never fails to evoke feels.
Amazing.
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Apr 5, 2016 5:01 AM

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Baeeeeee

Nooooooo
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Jan 17, 2017 4:55 PM

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I didn't see that coming, Hagu was so much more mature in how she is portrayed this season.
Jan 19, 2017 9:03 AM

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Hagu's words at the very beginning of the episode were exceedingly ominous. Particularly in the light of the injuries she sustained. It must have been a gruesome sight...
Apr 13, 2017 6:25 AM

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Ok, I was afraid about nothing in the end, I couldn't care less if she can't draw if she is alive and happy.
Revenge is bittersweet.
May 6, 2017 3:37 PM

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The song during the incident was a strange choice, however the rest of the episode was top notch.

Mayama seems to have a lot of fun in spain, but I was really scared there for a second when they showed the church.

Sad to see that Kaoru fell victim to his hatred.

Not as sad as seeing Hagu suffer,though. Boy that episode broke my heart..
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Mar 7, 2018 1:13 PM

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This series can go from depressing in the first minutes with Hagu talking about the future, to funny with Mayama and his Spain adventures, to sad and tear-jerking in the last minutes with the aftermath of the accident. What an amazing series this is.
Apr 4, 2018 11:03 AM

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Poor HAgu. I hope she gets better.
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Dec 25, 2018 11:00 AM

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what was that weird song/////./?

the injury was rather a lot, hope she gets better soon enough.

Kaoru oh boy he wen't in like a boss but at the end he suffered the most of all.
Dec 31, 2018 8:51 AM

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ahaha! serves hagu right! and it would honestly have been better if she died. only a mentally challenged gets crashed under glass panels in such a way standing there absent mindedly like lot's wife.
Mar 17, 2019 2:59 PM

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She's still breathing, but for someone like Hagu, losing the ability to paint can feel like a symbolic death.
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Jun 12, 2020 6:56 PM
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Is what Hagu said at the beginning of the episode mean that she is going to attempt suicide if her hand can't heal?!?!!? Also, the bittersweet story of those two brothers stealing back their dad's former company. Man, this show is melancholy. Please, please let this show give the cast a happy ending....
Jul 12, 2020 12:28 PM
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The people complaining about the song. How do you not understand contrast. I found that entire seen unbearably eery. The music playing as the wind blows her hair. The storm clouds. The weather vein. Everyone's faces and the discomfort on them. It was all so unbearable to me. The melody fit the wind blowing around her so perfectly. And as the glass shattered and reigned down her my heart broke. And the fast paced lyrics matched the wind so well. one of my favorjte things about tv, anime and movies is the art of matching the perfect song to a scene. It has the power to utterly break you. And this is the art of cinema at its finest. Honey and Clover has perfectly matched music to so many scenes and this is no exception
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Dec 26, 2020 2:05 AM

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Nothing wrong with the choice of music.
It was extremely tense and everything worked out great.

Probably the best episode of the season (although almost every episode of this season was a straight 9 or 10) .

Finally a good drama that doesn't seem too exaggerated.
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Dec 28, 2020 9:05 AM

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It made me glad as I scrolled through this thread & saw those who defended the choice of music before Hagu got injured. I guess it’s apparent that Hachiclo is a josei & clearly not for everyone since people blatantly miss the nuances every episode. This aside, also when Takemoto, Ayu, Hagu & Shuu were talking about going to the beach & Takemoto’s monologue was saying how they eventually didn’t go — everyone just jumped to the conclusion that’s it’s a death flag or someone’s going to die.....er.... NO....???!? Jesus..... talk about completely missing the point. It was a perfect scene saying that that’s life, you make plans, you have all these ideas for creating memories & they almost always don’t happen. It was conveyed so beautifully & I was so sad to see that almost everyone in that thread missed that nuance.







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Jun 16, 2021 9:52 AM

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Hagu-chan!!!!!! I hope she’s ok….T_T
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