myanimelistllc said: As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. WOW THANKS that will surely make me buy anime now |
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myanimelistllc said: Also, we have mostly finished reviewing all the tasks necessary for completing development. We are planning to start work on the remaining development some time next week. Development of WHAT ? |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
| The fansub section may have been a dick measuring contest for literal vs liberal subs, but it was useful at gauging reactions for older shows and having warnings like badly timed subs and occasional comments on video quality. Guess it'll just be AniDB and BakaBT now. |
Strangely I'm falling in love with BakaBT. |
| Talk is cheap, show me the code. Almost is not good enough. |
myanimelistllc said: Hello,As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. Fuck you. Regards |
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Scheibe said: I think the way to survive decently under Dena is to hope for nothing, so that way you can't be disappointed at least :DI was hoping the API update would have had more details |
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| It's been months without the api access and I have tolerated it so far, manually updating my list is a pain in the ass, it was much easier with Mal Updater. I tolerated it so far, but taking the fansub section just for that stupid reason... just no, I just cancelled my MAL supporter subscription because of this. Some people already mentioned the reasons why the fansub section should remain on the site, it has nothing to do with "support the anime and manga industry" or not, it was a really useful feature, there are like 5000 different shows, legal streaming sites don't have even half of them. |
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myanimelistllc said: As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. "Ongoing efforts to support"  We are currently working a new terms of use for third party application developers. Also, we have mostly finished reviewing all the tasks necessary for completing development. We are planning to start work on the remaining development some time next week. Sure, you "say" you're "now" about to work on it, but you still haven't explained jackshit about what's been going on, let alone have answered any questions about why there were such problems to begin with that led to this whole mess or what plans you have for the developers moving forward. Just come clean and say you will get to it "eventually" and that you're tired of us users bombarding you with legit questions and concerns about the process and want us to shut the fuck up. |
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| I don't really care about removing the fansubs from new shows, but seeing the old subs on old anime removed feels like part of the history of MAL and the anime community as a whole was just erased off this site. Most of those fansub groups don't even make fansubs anymore and it was always nostalgic to look back on that stuff. At least for me. |
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Iizbakaokay said: myanimelistllc said: Hello,As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. Fuck you. Regards ^ You know what you should remove Dena? Your existence. I'm sure people would support that. |
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| Glad to hear that. |
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| So where is the api update??? |
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Cnon said: So where is the api update??? its this paragraph? We are currently working a new terms of use for third party application developers. Also, we have mostly finished reviewing all the tasks necessary for completing development. We are planning to start work on the remaining development some time next week. |
deg said: Cnon said: So where is the api update??? its this paragraph? We are currently working a new terms of use for third party application developers. Also, we have mostly finished reviewing all the tasks necessary for completing development. We are planning to start work on the remaining development some time next week. feels like announcement of an announcement don't you think? very vague. they can't say what's going on. |
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| Umm removing the fansub section? Well, I understand because of the partnership with Crunchyroll and stuff. You want to show that you don't support fansub and stuff. Well, I hope the API gets fixed fast. |
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spinninrecorder said: This should fix my animelist right? It have no thumbnails. Restore your thumbnails with this https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=439897 they will probably not restore on their own no matter what DENA does - security changes broke that part of your layout, it seems Maffy said: I don't think imports are a priority and maybe it's better that way before they remove something else, but! Shishio's club offers very good solutions to imports and cover generators and such. So for anyone who has problems still, do check it out! Thanks for recommending us, Maffy! |
| No more fan subs? Then I have no more reason to support this website. Just canceled my subscription. This act was really anti-community. |
| MAL, you aren't Crunchyroll. You're a database. A comprehensive database includes ways to access shows in different languages, AKA fansubs. Please stop. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
Shishio-kun said: Thanks for recommending us, Maffy! I only recommend the best and you're definitely worth it c: |
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Maffy said: Shishio-kun said: Thanks for recommending us, Maffy! I only recommend the best and you're definitely worth it c: *blush*  |
| Glad to see MAL back at 100! Now, just add Tower of God to the Manga Database, and all will be right in the world :D |
| Good to see it fixed Thanks for putting in the hard work; thanks for existing MAL's a good spot to be & I hope it stays that way |
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| The fansub section was one of the most helpful (though not perfect) features of the site, but I get that you guys need to keep crunch and funi and all those [CENSORED] on board if you wanna make a living so I'm gonna respect the decision. |
| Yeah, finnaly ... |
| i had no idea fansubs even existed so *shrug* |
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| It's good that MAL is finally mostly back, but the fansub groups section will be missed. I felt some form of personal validation for my work by being on there. It's not like Crunchyroll really supports the industry anyway, they probably just paid Dena to remove the fansub section to try to squeeze more money out of the anime fanbase, which is disgusting, especially since Crunchyroll used to just be a site that hosted fansubs. |
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myanimelistllc said: As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. Did CR told you to say this? C'mon be honest! |
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| The removal of the fansub section has made me noticed my bakabt account has been ...removed. Sad times all around. |
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Zaugr said: 確かに。Credit taking now at this time? 失望した。myanimelistllc said: As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. ...What? How does that in any way "support" the industry? It just hurts the community. Fansub groups, if anything, need more love right now. They were doing the vast majority of the work before Crunchyroll ever came about, and have (and still do) helped the international anime community discover how many great animes that would have otherwise never been heard of or licensed abroad? You guys can remove the feature sure, it might not have been popular, but why paint it and fansubs as a force for bad..? That's nothing but insulting. I'm willing to bet that Crunchyroll would have never even come about without all the old fansub groups' role in making anime as widely popular as it is today, nor would so many companies be interested in releasing their films and shows abroad. And god for bid a scenario where the majority would need to rely on Crunchyroll's subs... what with their history of politicizing and changing all manner names and important structure. And out of all the times, why on Earth would you guys think it'd be good idea to do this now? After all the "recent" shit? For me this was definitely one of the most useful features this site had for whenever I wanted to watch old, forever-unlicensed animes; being able to see which groups subbed it, and see people's feedback on those subs (or give feedback myself). |
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| oh well it's not that you took literally 4 months to put everything into place right? lmao |
 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| Thank you for your hardwork^^ |
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| Good call, the Fansub Group section was awful tbh |
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| Fansub section was one of the most useful feature of this site and you guys had to remove it. F**kin sellouts. |
Zaugr said: That's already been the status quo for most of the last decade; so-called "fansubs" for modern/airing anime that get same-day simulcasts are just edited versions of legal subs from CR or other legal sites. And the vast majority of pirates either download the HorribleSubs direct rips of legal streams, or (more commonly) watch re-encodes of HS on bootleg stream sites. And god for bid a scenario where the majority would need to rely on Crunchyroll's subs... So while I hate to see the section go as well, it doesn't do much good for modern shows where all the subs are barely distinguishable. For older shows, you're only likely to find either the generally-agreed best fansub version, or R1DVD-rips. And the super-obscure titles only have one subbed version anyway. Though perhaps this decision will breathe more life into the sleepy AniDB release group comments/forums. |
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| Sure, it's not like fansub groups released never licensed series or do better job at translating than crap like CR or Funi. Just remove one of the foundations of the site, see how it works. Putting aside what a load of bull the argument about funsubs harming the industry is. |
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| I think it's okay that the fansub section got removed. Never really used it. I mean: It was basically only a list of groups that subbed stuff + some kind of profile page for the group with links + simple voting (plus or minus button to vote up or down) ... maybe some comments which not really that many people seemed to use. Nowadays with official streams real fansubs aren't needed in most cases. For older stuff the websites of the old sub groups might not be online anymore. In those cases (as well for newer stuff that still needs "real" fansubs) it usually is much better to just look for them directly. I mean there are tons of sites. Sites that list ddl and torrents and trackers for torrents where the people directly commend on each file. + AniDB that lists the subs/groups for each episode (listing which group subbed which episode) - which is much better. So that little section here on MAL never had been a big deal to me since there always have been better options. |
| It really is an understatement to just say how wrong it was to remove the fansub voting. Incredibly ironic it also came a day after praising the feature... EDIT: I've been using this feature for what I recall to be years for older releases. |
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myanimelistllc said: As part of ongoing efforts to support the anime and manga industry, the Fansub Group section of the site has been removed. Removing fansubs to support the industry? Let's be more honest and say it's in an attempt to be more advertiser friendly. Companies are probably a bit more iffy about working with MAL knowing that it offers helpful info about who subbed what and who did it best cause saying it's to support to industry is either ignorant or dishonest. Fansubs and scanlations let people experience anime and manga before western publishers even knew what those words mean. They continue to do so to this day by either translating works that don't have official translations or offering higher quality translations than companies that ask money for it. If they didn't exist I doubt MAL's userbase would be even half as big and Crunchyroll wouldn't even exist to begin with without their less than legal origins. Existence of other sites that provide this feature doesn't make MAL's reasoning any better. |
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NOTZUNJAE said: I'm a developer for a MAL app which has around 5K users per day. How do I stay in touch about API updates with you guys? Wouldn't expect a response as cooperation has been tried by many developers before, DeNa was working with them to create the new API (brainstorming / suggestions etc..) but pulled the plug and made it an private API instead next to the then outdated public one. This whole situation is just handled poorly and this API update without any clear details or schedule just means they're clueless. |
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| I understand why the fansub section has to be removed, but I'm not a fan of trying to justify it with shallow lies. Meh, we all know the reason why. |
5layer said: I don't really care about removing the fansubs from new shows, but seeing the old subs on old anime removed feels like part of the history of MAL and the anime community as a whole was just erased off this site. Most of those fansub groups don't even make fansubs anymore and it was always nostalgic to look back on that stuff. At least for me. Dude, seriously... This is pretty upsetting. Just yesterday I was comparing the fansubs for Bakemonogatari using MAL. It's really sad to think all those comments I read and votes I saw are gone now. |
| aww, shame about the fansubs section. I actually used it to get an opinion for ancient anime with like 7 different subbed versions. |
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