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Dec 9, 2009 11:33 AM

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francismeunier said:
Logic of assumption is that the Kakeru's friends were protecting him and though that they are with him so they should be eliminated with him.

My only problem with that is: they weren't friends. They appeared in the Red Night in different places, and without any connection to eachother. It might just be my stupidity, but I won't think of people who randomly appear in totally different places and their only connection is that they are wearing the same school uniform, as friends or allies. And even if they were, it would be totally obvious after one or twi fights that they have no idea about what's going on.

francismeunier said:
Did she not change her thinking because of the happiness gained from friends? That is how I saw it because she mentioned war/famine/death but happiness with friends can overcome this so maybe is why she changed?

Well obviously that's what they tried to imply, but since Shiori basically had no screen time it's like saying: Hey, she had a major character development, we just didn't show, cos we were too busy making pantyshots with Yuka.
Dec 9, 2009 11:39 AM

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@Francismeunier: Well, in first place let me say that im a big defender of hated charas in most of anime. most of hated charas are the ones i support the most, because i think they deserve a chance, and what if they bad, well probably its because someone did something to them. So, i try to understand the charas point of view, his past, his story and the people surrounding him.
i honestly dont like to offend a chara, because i know that that chara must have a few fans.
the thing is, im really curious to know...besides her looks and her pinky lingerie, what do you admire so much in Yuka, that makes you blind not to see that she is doing many wrong things, which, everyone has the right to make mistakes of course, but, do you honestly think Kakeru will be happy with someone like her?
someone who doesnt let him breath? i mean, the guy wants to go to the bathroom in a private moment and she is the type that will follow him, im so sorry but thats too much. do u honestly think that he will be happy just with her in the end?
i mean, reflect a bit. How would be their end:
Kakeru:" Oh Yuka my beloved, you helped destroying all my friends (and yours) and the whole world, but, hey who cares, iam with you and im gonna be so happy. Let´s have sex?"
No, sorry, i dont think he would be happy unless he was a psycho with no feelings.
there´s one thing i admire in you, true, you defend you fav chara until the end. Just like me. But that wouldnt keep me to see the chara´s actions and personality.
For example, if Misuzu stayed alone with Kakeru and in the world totally destroyed, i would be so pissed, because i know that both were unhappy like hell for not having his friends near to them. Not even if they desperately loved each other, the guilty, the pain they would feel would not allow them to move on.
So, sorry, i just cant think in yuka with kakeru in a destroyed or not destroyed world, because even if they all died, she would still be happy with that non appropriate smile of hers. but well, i respect your opinion.

@Darklight0303:Totally agree. It was so not sexy doing that in front of Shiori. i mean she dragged him into a far away place just to kiss him, but it makes no sense at all what she did, grabbing him in underwear in front of Shiori. i dont like that type of girl. How can such a sweet girl in the beggining can change into... That?!

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Dec 9, 2009 11:41 AM

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Yuka is just funny
SunyiNyufi said:
My first complain would be about the dark knights. So they turned out to be the good guys, who have to kill people in order to keep the witch from awakening. That's ok. But since Shiori said that the kakera (aka our main characters) aren't necessarly evil, they just possess power, so why did the dark kinghts tried to killed them in the beginning?
Not everybody knows the concept of first talking then drawing your sword. Let's say they are the aggressive type who would even start a war without a reason.
SunyiNyufi said:
And actually the "I want to destroy the whole world cos nobody loves me" thing is just plain studpid. No one would do that, cos no one wants to die. If they want to die, they just commit suicide. So unless the person who wants to destroy the world, has the power to create a new one, this reason is just stupid.
So there are two people who want the world destroyed. Both are mad. Who of those two again cares about rationality?
Secondly if the world is created by Yuka, why can't she create a second one?
Dec 9, 2009 12:27 PM

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Orulyon said:
@Francismeunier: Well, in first place let me say that im a big defender of hated charas in most of anime. most of hated charas are the ones i support the most, because i think they deserve a chance, and what if they bad, well probably its because someone did something to them. So, i try to understand the charas point of view, his past, his story and the people surrounding him.
i honestly dont like to offend a chara, because i know that that chara must have a few fans.
Ok, that's nice to know you in that point.
Orulyon said:
the thing is, im really curious to know...besides her looks and her pinky lingerie, what do you admire so much in Yuka, that makes you blind not to see that she is doing many wrong things, which, everyone has the right to make mistakes of course, but, do you honestly think Kakeru will be happy with someone like her?
Yes he will because she was first there with him but there is now a rival of the name Misuzu who appeared....you think it's right for her to take him away after all the things Kakeru went through with Yuka?
Orulyon said:
someone who doesnt let him breath? i mean, the guy wants to go to the bathroom in a private moment and she is the type that will follow him, im so sorry but thats too much. do u honestly think that he will be happy just with her in the end?
She is not always like that. She is just concerned about him doing something with Misuzu and that all can see it's all about that before she was not like that....guess she has a powerful jealousy. I would not mind being with her all the time.
Orulyon said:
i mean, reflect a bit. How would be their end:
Kakeru:" Oh Yuka my beloved, you helped destroying all my friends (and yours) and the whole world, but, hey who cares, iam with you and im gonna be so happy. Let´s have sex?"
Well since all of them are girls I am not surprised at all by that but I don't think she thinks like that...try guy friends and it is not the same thing.
Orulyon said:
No, sorry, i dont think he would be happy unless he was a psycho with no feelings.
there´s one thing i admire in you, true, you defend you fav chara until the end. Just like me. But that wouldnt keep me to see the chara´s actions and personality.
I don't think he is a psycho but Yuka understands him more than Misuzu.
Orulyon said:
For example, if Misuzu stayed alone with Kakeru and in the world totally destroyed, i would be so pissed, because i know that both were unhappy like hell for not having his friends near to them. Not even if they desperately loved each other, the guilty, the pain they would feel would not allow them to move on.
Ok that would be the case of Kakeru and Misuzu.
Orulyon said:
So, sorry, i just cant think in yuka with kakeru in a destroyed or not destroyed world, because even if they all died, she would still be happy with that non appropriate smile of hers. but well, i respect your opinion.
Same here I respect yours.....let's see which of our characters win in the end.

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Dec 9, 2009 12:37 PM

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francismeunier said:
She is not always like that. She is just concerned about him doing something with Misuzu and that all can see it's all about that before she was not like that....guess she has a powerful jealousy. I would not mind being with her all the time.

Wanna bet she'd rather kill you than let you live if you ever got tired of her? and I bet you would after less than a year >_>
Dec 9, 2009 1:10 PM

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Darklight0303 said:
francismeunier said:
She is not always like that. She is just concerned about him doing something with Misuzu and that all can see it's all about that before she was not like that....guess she has a powerful jealousy. I would not mind being with her all the time.

Wanna bet she'd rather kill you than let you live if you ever got tired of her? and I bet you would after less than a year >_>
I tend to be a person that accepts all of people and would not get tired of her.

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Dec 9, 2009 1:16 PM

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if she says your name more than 20 times in 3 hours EVERY day?. I think I would become a murderer after day 2 in those conditions >_>
Dec 9, 2009 2:02 PM

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francismeunier said:

Orulyon said:
the thing is, im really curious to know...besides her looks and her pinky lingerie, what do you admire so much in Yuka, that makes you blind not to see that she is doing many wrong things, which, everyone has the right to make mistakes of course, but, do you honestly think Kakeru will be happy with someone like her?
francismeunier said:

Yes he will because she was first there with him but there is now a rival of the name Misuzu who appeared....you think it's right for her to take him away after all the things Kakeru went through with Yuka?


have u been paying attention in the anime? since i remember they only became rivals in the last episode (10). Before that they were great friends, they were alone many times but nothing happened due to the respect and friendship they shared. Did you remember that was Yuka that started imagining things? if she had trusted Kakeru and Misuzu, i doubt Misuzu would even hug him, because she respected Yuka. Did you forgot that was Misuzu who taught Kakeru how to fight in order to protect Yuka? take him away?! what u talking about?!
im not trying to say that Misuzu should replace Yuka. Every person is unique and irreplaceable. Kakeru suffered a lot more than Yuka because he lost his sister and he didnt became obsessed with her. While yuka was adopted, he´s been living alone. Yes, yuka helped him, and she used to be a great girl, but she´s not anymore and that´s it. Even if he loves her, sooner or later he will end up hating her because she doesnt care about their friends.

Orulyon said:
someone who doesnt let him breath? i mean, the guy wants to go to the bathroom in a private moment and she is the type that will follow him, im so sorry but thats too much. do u honestly think that he will be happy just with her in the end?
francismeunier said:
She is not always like that. She is just concerned about him doing something with Misuzu and that all can see it's all about that before she was not like that....guess she has a powerful jealousy. I would not mind being with her all the time.


yeah, but the thing is you´re not Kakeru, and Kakeru wants to...i dont know...maybe breath a little?

Orulyon said:
i mean, reflect a bit. How would be their end:
Kakeru:" Oh Yuka my beloved, you helped destroying all my friends (and yours) and the whole world, but, hey who cares, iam with you and im gonna be so happy. Let´s have sex?"
francismeunier said:
Well since all of them are girls I am not surprised at all by that but I don't think she thinks like that...try guy friends and it is not the same thing.


What?=_=

Orulyon said:
No, sorry, i dont think he would be happy unless he was a psycho with no feelings.
there´s one thing i admire in you, true, you defend you fav chara until the end. Just like me. But that wouldnt keep me to see the chara´s actions and personality.

francismeunier said:
I don't think he is a psycho but Yuka understands him more than Misuzu.


yeah she understands him a lot, wow. if she understood his feelings she would know that he would be hurt to see his friends dying and that he´s been fighting to help them while she drinks tea and talks about fairytales. let me correct your sentence: she USED to understand him. in the past.


Orulyon said:
For example, if Misuzu stayed alone with Kakeru and in the world totally destroyed, i would be so pissed, because i know that both were unhappy like hell for not having his friends near to them. Not even if they desperately loved each other, the guilty, the pain they would feel would not allow them to move on.

francismeunier said:
Ok that would be the case of Kakeru and Misuzu.


No. that would be the case of Kakeru with any other girl from the anime except Yuka.

Orulyon said:
So, sorry, i just cant think in yuka with kakeru in a destroyed or not destroyed world, because even if they all died, she would still be happy with that non appropriate smile of hers. but well, i respect your opinion.

francismeunier said:
Same here I respect yours.....let's see which of our characters win in the end.


Im not in a competition you see. Im expressing my opinion.(and if i was, no, im not afraid to loose. Loosing or winning is not synonymous of the word justice. I dont care who wins or looses,(but yes, i of course would like to see them all well and alive and lisette loosing her powers)
but it will be the worst anime ever if Misuzu dies and Yuka stays with Kakeru. No offense. At least leave Misuzu alive. Too many already died. If Yuka regains her senses and return to her old personality i wouldnt mind see her with Kakeru. The point is, if she stays like she is now, even Kakeru will loose his feelings for her. Its common sense.
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Dec 9, 2009 2:31 PM

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Proselyt said:
SunyiNyufi said:
My first complain would be about the dark knights. So they turned out to be the good guys, who have to kill people in order to keep the witch from awakening. That's ok. But since Shiori said that the kakera (aka our main characters) aren't necessarly evil, they just possess power, so why did the dark kinghts tried to killed them in the beginning?
Not everybody knows the concept of first talking then drawing your sword. Let's say they are the aggressive type who would even start a war without a reason.

So you say, that the ones who supposedly saved the world already once in this story, were just some brainless agressive bunch? That's just makes the story even more stupid imho ^^'
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SunyiNyufi said:
And actually the "I want to destroy the whole world cos nobody loves me" thing is just plain studpid. No one would do that, cos no one wants to die. If they want to die, they just commit suicide. So unless the person who wants to destroy the world, has the power to create a new one, this reason is just stupid.
So there are two people who want the world destroyed. Both are mad. Who of those two again cares about rationality?
Secondly if the world is created by Yuka, why can't she create a second one?

Madness has its rules too. It's true that mad people just try to sattisfy their desire, but those are personal things and never such vague things like destroying the world.
Why Yuka is not creating a new world, is a good question. Maybe because Kakeru didn't f*ck her yet? :D
Dec 9, 2009 5:47 PM

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WE ARE AT YANDERE STAGE 2! REPEAT, YUKA IS AT STAGE 2! (the stage of threats/attempted murder. Stage 3 is the actual violence/murder)

-Wow, could Yuka be any stupider right now? I'm not a "hater" but I do hate the way she's acting. First asking Kakeru to sleep with her (that was kinda hot actually), then razoring the tea, getting a kiss and then releasing Liselotte for god knows whatever reason. On the other hand, I really can't see her living through to the end of the series any more.

-Crap, Yukiko died. I didn't think she could but I didn't realize they could take the fragments out which sucks. And man, her death was graphic. I mean, we didn't see all of it but the sounds left enough to the imagination.

-You know, if this anime wanted to do a time-rewrite thing to bring everyone back to life, I'd be okay with it as long as they did it properly.
Dec 9, 2009 6:02 PM
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Darklight0303 said:
RAGE
BLINDING.

MUST
REFRAIN
FROM
DESTROYING
MONITOR
*smashes monitor since Yuka came onscreen*
God I thought I reached my pinnacle of hate for her. But NOOOOOO she has to go and REALLY push my buttons some more. >_> just DIE do the entire fuckin world a favor and CHOKE ON THAT RAZOR YOU OBSESSIVE USELESS PIECE OF HUMAN REFUSE
*anger is off the charts so will end it there*


This

Vegeta, what does the scouter say about his anger level?

ITS OVER 9000!!!!

Im here trying to think of how they will make us hate Yuka even more on episode 11, because I thought it was impossible already and they did it again... My god what a bitch, what she deserves is some brutal hentai raping by the black knights or whatever

Still trying to calm myself down... God, worst character ever
Dec 9, 2009 6:16 PM
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without yuka this anime is pretty boring, atleast now you have something to hate on
Dec 9, 2009 6:23 PM

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francismeunier said:
Three reasons I give you: a)For trying to hurt Misuzu, b) For kissing Kakeru and c)giving the green crystal to Liselotte Wreckmeister so now she is revived.
thanks for giving reasons why i love yuka.. and oh.. also the "My Kakeru-kun sense is tingling".. hahaha.. yandere FTW! (sure, i don't want to be with them.. but they are so fun to watch..)

Frostwake said:
Im here trying to think of how they will make us hate Yuka even more on episode 11, because I thought it was impossible already and they did it again... My god what a bitch, what she deserves is some brutal hentai raping by the black knights or whatever

Still trying to calm myself down... God, worst character ever
i don't think she's the worst character ever since she's fulfilling her role outstandingly.. she's having a major success on trying to make people hate her.. really, she's starting to be one of the better yandere type characters out there..

about the ep, it's either they haven't explained some stuff yet or they were not able to coz the stuff they threw us in this episode are unclear.. they'd still have to clear what really happened in the past (you know, first scene of the anime) as it might be the thing that connects all.. guess i would have to wait for the translation of the vn.. or when i can read japanese properly..
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Hmmmm...I wonder why I didn't realize this before... Fragment = Kakera... LULZ I see wut they did thar...

And LAWL the bitch's gone crazy and since the anime sucks donkey balls, they decided to go DBZ... 7 fragments my ass yea? And Higurashi too... And despite the combination of those 2, it still FAILS

Kakeru: "Sempai, u trained me with yo body..." LOL wut a training indeed...8-)

Disappointed at Avaritia for losing a hand due to a tiny blast, I always thought he's super duper uber strong since he's teh boss but seems like he's also like the regular male lead nowadays who loves to hide under girls' skirt like a dog... How sad, O' manhood...

@ Yuck-a

*Yawn* Okay~ So how much?



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Dec 9, 2009 6:44 PM

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garfield15 said:
WE ARE AT YANDERE STAGE 2! REPEAT, YUKA IS AT STAGE 2! (the stage of threats/attempted murder. Stage 3 is the actual violence/murder)



lol...

I can't help but laugh at Yuka even though Kakeru and the others are having serious conversations. Never mind the plot...Yuka in underwear is the best. :D

But not Yuka :D
Dec 9, 2009 6:47 PM

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Yuka needs to die. How do crazy people like her still get what they want? And she created this world? This whole plot is dumb, and this show is dumb because they finally started explaining why things are happening, in episode 10. And now, Yukiko is dead, and it seems like all the good characters are going to be gone, and we're gonna be left with Yuka. Hurray, this show is sucking.

Dec 9, 2009 6:51 PM

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I hate clingy women. Nothing good every comes from them.
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argilium said:
Frostwake said:
Im here trying to think of how they will make us hate Yuka even more on episode 11, because I thought it was impossible already and they did it again... My god what a bitch, what she deserves is some brutal hentai raping by the black knights or whatever

Still trying to calm myself down... God, worst character ever
i don't think she's the worst character ever since she's fulfilling her role outstandingly.. she's having a major success on trying to make people hate her.. really, she's starting to be one of the better yandere type characters out there...


Okay~ "one of the better yandere characters out there"?



Stop it, just stop bringing shame to the awesome yandere community please...



If he's not with us, he's AGAINST us!!!

Dec 9, 2009 6:54 PM

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DarcyD said:
This whole plot is dumb, and this show is dumb because they finally started explaining why things are happening, in episode 10.
i don't know why but i like it more when they explain it all towards the end.. makes you still keep watchin it and theorize a lot at first.. also a usual format for visual novels.. but still, i think this show is kinda dumb unless they explain it all since as of now, there are a lot of plotholes..
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argilium said:
DarcyD said:
This whole plot is dumb, and this show is dumb because they finally started explaining why things are happening, in episode 10.
i don't know why but i like it more when they explain it all towards the end.. makes you still keep watchin it and theorize a lot at first.. also a usual format for visual novels.. but still, i think this show is kinda dumb unless they explain it all since as of now, there are a lot of plotholes..


That doesn't work for me. I don't apprciate this anime killing off so many important characters, flashing us a billion panty shots, and then, with 2 EPISODES LEFT, have Shiori, who was the most IMPORTANT character of all, explain everything that's been happening, so quickly, we can't even grasp our minds around it because, gasp, ANOTHER character has died. And congrats 11eyes, you managed to throw in some yandere romance, which pisses me off because this is the worst mix of violence and romance at the same time. Oh, and really great job adding some DBZ elements, totally made the show. :/

Dec 9, 2009 8:02 PM

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BitchMaster said:
Hmmmm...I wonder why I didn't realize this before... Fragment = Kakera... LULZ I see wut they did thar...
Lol. I got that a long time ago.

Oh yeah, I love how Kakeru licking Misuzu's blood went from necessary to just plain sexual....not that there was anything wrong with that of course >,>
Dec 9, 2009 9:02 PM

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.....LOL

What the fuck just happened? So not only is Yuka a yandere, she becomes the cliched deus ex machina factor with everyone living in her own little deranged world. Well I'm tempted to raise the score for the show just killing off characters like they're nothing, but somehow, I can see an ending where everybody comes back all alive and cheery.

As for Yuka... /me facepalms. Other than the plot-centric deus ex machina that she is, she still proves to be nothing but an obsessive, jealous little brat. Jealous and yandere enough to the point of trying to get rid of Misuzu with a razor. Seriously? "ZOMG KAKERU-KUN, YOU CALL HER KUSAKABE-SENPAI RIGHT NOW, NOT MISUZU. MY GOD YOU CAN'T BE WITH OTHER WOMENZ KTHX. ONLY ME ME ME ME ME ME ME". And lolz at her releasing Liselotte. I can see it now, her motive is to use Liselotte to get rid of Misuzu once and for all. Talk about fucking insane.
Dec 9, 2009 9:37 PM
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here's +1 hate post for yuka D<

if yuka dies this shall become one of mah favourite animes :D
Dec 9, 2009 10:05 PM
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nerdzo said:
here's +1 hate post for yuka D<

if yuka dies this shall become one of mah favourite animes :D


lol@this mofo.
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no...just no...I have already expressed my dislike for Yuka and her selfish and obsessive behaviour which only the lowest scumbags of human beings can match but this....this is just too much...

I have to compliment 11Eyes for having created a character whose sole existence makes me want to fucking punch the shit out of my monitor and burn it....but seriously

She doesnt love Kakeru....she just loves the Kakeru she has had in her mind all along...she wants Kakeru to always be the same person that SHE wants and thats just wrong...fuck 10/10 and i would rage many more times
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Holy FUCK, Tang-Ina ka Yuka, you wanted to kill Misuzu badly.

Update later.
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Wasabi said:
I can see it now, her motive is to use Liselotte to get rid of Misuzu once and for all. Talk about fucking insane.
Nice one but this remains to be seen I am thinking you are right about rid Misuzu but maybe you might be surprised who it could be...not sure but I have seen a pic of how it might be from the game...
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francismeunier said:
Three reasons I give you: a)For trying to hurt Misuzu, b) For kissing Kakeru and c)giving the green crystal to Liselotte Wreckmeister so now she is revived.
argilium said:
thanks for giving reasons why i love yuka.. and oh.. also the "My Kakeru-kun sense is tingling".. hahaha.. yandere FTW! (sure, i don't want to be with them.. but they are so fun to watch..)

Why you are welcomed argilium it was a pleasure for me too to like Yuka more because of this episode.
Frostwake said:
Im here trying to think of how they will make us hate Yuka even more on episode 11, because I thought it was impossible already and they did it again... My god what a bitch, what she deserves is some brutal hentai raping by the black knights or whatever

Still trying to calm myself down... God, worst character ever
argilium said:
i don't think she's the worst character ever since she's fulfilling her role outstandingly.. she's having a major success on trying to make people hate her.. really, she's starting to be one of the better yandere type characters out there..

I agree but I might not have seen enough anime to say the best but certainly her character pleased me enough to claim her. Ha!
argilium said:
about the ep, it's either they haven't explained some stuff yet or they were not able to coz the stuff they threw us in this episode are unclear.. they'd still have to clear what really happened in the past (you know, first scene of the anime) as it might be the thing that connects all.. guess i would have to wait for the translation of the vn.. or when i can read japanese properly..

I though they explained the whole Velardo thing with Liselotte wanting revenge from the world...I though I gived a logical opinion that a human killed him (pic proof) and because of that she wants to destroy all human = to whole world or both of them tried to save the world and the world got rid of one of them so the other has revenge reason being love.
Orulyon said:
francismeunier said:

Orulyon said:
the thing is, im really curious to know...besides her looks and her pinky lingerie, what do you admire so much in Yuka, that makes you blind not to see that she is doing many wrong things, which, everyone has the right to make mistakes of course, but, do you honestly think Kakeru will be happy with someone like her?
francismeunier said:

Yes he will because she was first there with him but there is now a rival of the name Misuzu who appeared....you think it's right for her to take him away after all the things Kakeru went through with Yuka?


Orulyon said:
have u been paying attention in the anime? since i remember they only became rivals in the last episode (10). Before that they were great friends, they were alone many times but nothing happened due to the respect and friendship they shared.
Not until that blood drinking thing and that was before episode 10.
Orulyon said:
Did you remember that was Yuka that started imagining things? if she had trusted Kakeru and Misuzu, i doubt Misuzu would even hug him, because she respected Yuka. Did you forgot that was Misuzu who taught Kakeru how to fight in order to protect Yuka? take him away?! what u talking about?!
im not trying to say that Misuzu should replace Yuka.
I just supposed if she would...would you think it's ok because Yuka's mind does not is what I am trying to say.
Orulyon said:
Every person is unique and irreplaceable. Kakeru suffered a lot more than Yuka because he lost his sister and he didnt became obsessed with her. While yuka was adopted, he´s been living alone. Yes, yuka helped him, and she used to be a great girl, but she´s not anymore and that´s it. Even if he loves her, sooner or later he will end up hating her because she doesnt care about their friends.

Ok I can't say anything to that but to defend her I will say that she is just doing what she can do have Kakeru to herself.
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someone who doesnt let him breath? i mean, the guy wants to go to the bathroom in a private moment and she is the type that will follow him, im so sorry but thats too much. do u honestly think that he will be happy just with her in the end?
francismeunier said:
She is not always like that. She is just concerned about him doing something with Misuzu and that all can see it's all about that before she was not like that....guess she has a powerful jealousy. I would not mind being with her all the time.


Orulyon said:
yeah, but the thing is you´re not Kakeru, and Kakeru wants to...i dont know...maybe breath a little?

I could imagine to be....I like thinking about some characters since seeing anime....I can't do it? With imagination it is possible.
Orulyon said:
i mean, reflect a bit. How would be their end:
Kakeru:" Oh Yuka my beloved, you helped destroying all my friends (and yours) and the whole world, but, hey who cares, iam with you and im gonna be so happy. Let´s have sex?"
francismeunier said:
Well since all of them are girls I am not surprised at all by that but I don't think she thinks like that...try guy friends and it is not the same thing.


Orulyon said:
What?=_=

I think Yuka is the type to be jealous over Kakeru with girls and less with guys is what I am saying.
Orulyon said:
No, sorry, i dont think he would be happy unless he was a psycho with no feelings.
there´s one thing i admire in you, true, you defend you fav chara until the end. Just like me. But that wouldnt keep me to see the chara´s actions and personality.

francismeunier said:
I don't think he is a psycho but Yuka understands him more than Misuzu.


Orulyon said:
yeah she understands him a lot, wow. if she understood his feelings she would know that he would be hurt to see his friends dying and that he´s been fighting to help them while she drinks tea and talks about fairytales. let me correct your sentence: she USED to understand him. in the past.

Ok maybe but her mind state has been corrupted by delusions.
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For example, if Misuzu stayed alone with Kakeru and in the world totally destroyed, i would be so pissed, because i know that both were unhappy like hell for not having his friends near to them. Not even if they desperately loved each other, the guilty, the pain they would feel would not allow them to move on.

francismeunier said:
Ok that would be the case of Kakeru and Misuzu.


Orulyon said:
No. that would be the case of Kakeru with any other girl from the anime except Yuka.

No it is a case in the game with who you choose. Logic says it is either Misuzu or Yuka.
Orulyon said:
So, sorry, i just cant think in yuka with kakeru in a destroyed or not destroyed world, because even if they all died, she would still be happy with that non appropriate smile of hers. but well, i respect your opinion.

francismeunier said:
Same here I respect yours.....let's see which of our characters win in the end.


Orulyon said:
Im not in a competition you see. Im expressing my opinion.(and if i was, no, im not afraid to loose. Loosing or winning is not synonymous of the word justice. I dont care who wins or looses,(but yes, i of course would like to see them all well and alive and lisette loosing her powers)
but it will be the worst anime ever if Misuzu dies and Yuka stays with Kakeru. No offense. At least leave Misuzu alive. Too many already died. If Yuka regains her senses and return to her old personality i wouldnt mind see her with Kakeru. The point is, if she stays like she is now, even Kakeru will loose his feelings for her. Its common sense.
I did not say competition I just ended in a logic to see who is right and wrong. Nothing more and nothing serious.
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So Yukas a whore. Seriously broad daylight --lingerie- how perverted are you damn women..

Kakure wants to save people , but hes not strong ( i actually like this part dont know why).

Saw Kakure blushing for the first time.

KakureX Misuzu maybe next ep.

I dont get the whole " Yuka made this world" part , its like Haruhi Suzumiya...

Cant even talk about Yukiko and Takhisa , its umm..*sigh* ~depressing.

The seven fragments could actually die in the end to save the world .

I want lisetto clothes , they are so pretty...or i want atleast the hairband :D
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ROFL...yeah sorry francis..i must agree with Yuka's hater now..she really pissed me off

And what a funny way to killed a character..i forgot her name..who's that girl who disappear because she was Yuka's creation? oh forget it she doesn't even have a role

I just hope the Black Knight will triumph!! Yeah just kill that fragment or something..i'm rooting for them..Superbia should be the main character XD
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Laevantein said:
ROFL...yeah sorry francis..i must agree with Yuka's hater now..she really pissed me off

It's ok we all have our opinions but I would stay with Yka till the end of this.
Laevantein said:
And what a funny way to killed a character..i forgot her name..who's that girl who disappear because she was Yuka's creation? oh forget it she doesn't even have a role

Kukuri?...I think she will be in the Red Night next episode
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I just hope the Black Knight will triumph!! Yeah just kill that fragment or something..i'm rooting for them..Superbia should be the main character XD
Superbia should also pay for killing Tajima and Yukiko.

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Yeah that's her name Kukuri..She ain't dead yet?
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So Yukas a whore. Seriously broad daylight --lingerie- how perverted are you damn women..


Yep,she's a whore!
And not just a whore...she's one crazy bitch.Seriously,can she become more psycho than this?!


A razor blade in the tea?!Now that is crazy...


What was that for?Yeah...we know you only need Kakeru-kun,but you don't need to destroy the rest of the world,right?Right?


Misuzu blushing... <3


Oooh,how very tempting <3


Ah,i love the way her bra's strap is falling down her hand...but seriosly...does she need to take off her bra to let Kakeru drink her blood?!Not that it's bad...i don't mind at all but still it's strange.
Well...i guess she just likes it too much so she decided to give some additional fanservice ^_^

Linalee-Stratos said:

Cant even talk about Yukiko and Takhisa , its umm..*sigh* ~depressing.

The cute girl with the glasses and the not-annoying male protagonist are both dead...yeah,that's kinda depressing ;(


Cruel...just too cruel ;(

At least Kakeru did something nice this time...

rofl

Linalee-Stratos said:

I want lisetto clothes , they are so pretty...or i want atleast the hairband :D

Indeed.she is so cute in her black dress <3

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Holy FUCK, Tang-Ina ka Yuka, you wanted to kill Misuzu badly.


POTA WALANG KWENTA SI YUKA HANGGANG SA HULI!

Next ep: Misuzu wtf?! Hoping that "scene" would be a SFW one.
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I don't remember hating an anime character so much as I do with Yuka!!! OMG I can't stand the biaatch!!!!!!!!!!!!
This show is starting to get on my nerves.... if Yukiko dies too.. two of my favourite characters are gone...
and what was that in Misuzu's ocha?! :S Was that a razor blade???!! Fuckin Yuka u r insane!!
Also: Kakeru-kun wa baka desuka??? He is kissing that evil bitch?! How stupid is he?!
PS: I was soooo happy though when he put her in that cupboard!! lol :P
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Omenetto Yuka, for being complete Yandere in this episode. Yuka really makes me lost word. I can only shake head watching hear attitude. Kotonoha Katsura from School Days is nothing compare to her.
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Nooooo..Yukiko -_-
And..wtf yuka is such a moron.At first i didn't have any problems with her , but for the past 3-4 episodes she's really off -.-
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Oh jeez, I wish I didn't watch this anime. There are so many illogical things about it when it comes to it's plot but I'm almost done so w/e.

I hope Lisetto doesn't die and same with Mizuzu. I doubt Shiori would die. Shes the best character really even though she lacked so much screen time.

Yuka is such a horrible yandere character, I don't like yanderes since they scare me but shes just stupid really. I don't mind some yanderes though like Rena from Higurashi and probably some others too. Oh, the above poster reminded me another yandere I don't mind, Kotonoha Katsura from School Days.
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ChaosLegion said:


Misuzu blushing... <3


Oooh,how very tempting <3


Ah,i love the way her bra's strap is falling down her hand...but seriosly...does she need to take off her bra to let Kakeru drink her blood?!Not that it's bad...i don't mind at all but still it's strange.
Well...i guess she just likes it too much so she decided to give some additional fanservice ^_^

Well think the positive side! she wasnt in underwear in front of everyone:P
she only shows her marvellous lacy bra to her beloved Kakeru:D im so glad she fell in love with him, but they are awesome as friends too^.^ Misuzu blushing is soooo sweet!:3

ChaosLegion said:
At least Kakeru did something nice this time...

rofl


ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Man that was the best pic in this whole thread, love it! I loved that Scene, i wish Kakeru had locked her there with a key.
Linalee-Stratos said:

I want lisetto clothes , they are so pretty...or i want atleast the hairband :D

Indeed.she is so cute in her black dress <3


Lisette is a loli, i cant believe such a cute loli to be in love with someone so...ugly(Verard)? why does she lost her shoes in her dark version? LOOOOL.

And wow, i wont compare Yuka to Kotonoha...Kotonoha is much better:P

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Orulyon said:

Linalee-Stratos said:

I want lisetto clothes , they are so pretty...or i want atleast the hairband :D

Indeed.she is so cute in her black dress <3


Lisette is a loli, i cant believe such a cute loli to be in love with someone so...ugly(Verard)? why does she lost her shoes in her dark version? LOOOOL.
Might as well break the ice and show it to all who might have missed it here is Lisette from game in full version not sealed:
ChaosLegion said:
ROFL big time! Thanks for that....it was a great laugh and nice touch you did there dear friend! Thanks again! Keep up the picture arsenal...looks like some people liked the cupboard part of Yuka.....I get the joke.

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Another sick plottwist also why nobody notice that Yuka is gone crazy? I understands why Kakeru not (he's an idiot though) but Misuzu...
Another one of my favourites dies, I can't believe this anime want me to drop it at the end or what? After I suffered 10 episodes of Yuka's crying...
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Okay so now they at least showed the result of Yukiko killing Takahisa. Was pretty needed I suppose, even though they didn't show much.
*RAGE* at Yuka
Interesting, HellFall, huh?
Apparantly Takahisa's fragment isn't needed then?
*RAGE* at Yuka
Misuzu-sempai~, not Kusakabe-sempai
*RAGE* at Yuka
WTF Yuka *RAGE* at Yuka
Asking if he wants to sleep with her?
*RAGE* at Yuka
Damn bitch
*RAGE* at Yuka
Shiori-chan~ Don't just agree to that D:
*RAGE* at Yuka
Verard looks way cooler than Kakeru, if we're just considering the eye-part.
And "The Holy Order of the Index" sounds really strange.
*RAGE* at Yuka
Yeah, go Verard take over Kakeru's body or whatever, maybe you'll succeed in killing Yuka?
*RAGE* at Yuka
Kukuri's pretty fun ^^
Misuzu~ aww don't feel down D:
Comfort her Kakeru!
*RAGE* at Yuka
Kakeru X Misuzu~
*RAGE* at Yuka
What kinda tarot-stuff was Shiori doing btw? Oh well never mind, doesn't matter : p
*RAGE* at Yuka
Damn it stop that shit Yuka!
I'm shaking with anger right now.
It's Yuka's world? Wtf? Red Night, great timing, way to go.
Oh and Yukiko goes one a raging rampage, cool.
*RAGE* at Yuka
Stop holding Kakeru back already Yuka D: Retard.
Yeah, that's right! Put her in a closet and get moving! : D
Oh sweet, that's some nice slashing there. Ooh sweet, that might've hurt, eh?
Although lol Kakeru you didn't have to go rampage too =.='
Preview then.. : /
*RAGE* at Yuka
Wtf why do you always have to go destroying everything?
Oh well some Liselotte next time~ ^^

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Tpoia said:
Angel = Witch, I see the connection.
lol...just lol...

Clearly lol xD
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I'll start by saying that Yukiko's death was gruesome, but cool at the same time. Actually seeing it would've made it even better for me.

I really hope Yuka gets her ass handed to her by Liselotte or at least one of the two remaining Black Knights. Though she looked hot in just her underwear, she turned from cute clingy girl to jealous, insane, murderous girl with world-creating powers who ends up awakening the Beast (or witch, whatever you want to call Liselotte).

And I do hope Misuzu lives through, I'm starting to think Kakeru is better off with a girl like her than Yuka. Heck, even Shiori would probably be better than Yuka in that department.
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This thread is just so much better than the episode itself.


"A Legend is but a tale of a beautiful lie."
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Actually seeing it would've made it even better for me.

Yup, would've been better to actually see it, I hate censoring. (Although I don't know if this really classifies as censoring, since it pretty much was just partly blackened out and partly not even on-screen xD

AO968 said:
And I do hope Misuzu lives through, I'm starting to think Kakeru is better off with a girl like her than Yuka. Heck, even Shiori would probably be better than Yuka in that department.

Even a dead one like Yukiko would be better than Yuka.
Damnit anything is better than Yuka! D:
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LOL, indeed:D
well, the only thing i dont like in Lisette is her big green glowing eyes.*too shiny*
Well if she wants Verard back then she´ll try to keep Kakeru to herself!
Yuka and Misuzu would have a powerful rival, looooooooooooool.
Just imagine in the end Kakeru stays with Lisette ROTFL

well now talking seriously...Where the hell is Kukuri?! i bet she´s the most powerful of them! (if she´s not, then she was the most useless main chara i have ever seen in an anime).

Kukuri´s role in the anime:
"smile"
"write in the sketchbook"
"smile again"
"search a phrase in the sketchbook"
"use her chains against Superbia"
"superbia brokes it"
"Kukuri disappears".

C´mon...is she really a main chara?!LOOOOL

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Darklight0303 said:
RAGE
BLINDING.

MUST
REFRAIN
FROM
DESTROYING
MONITOR
*smashes monitor since Yuka came onscreen*
God I thought I reached my pinnacle of hate for her. But NOOOOOO she has to go and REALLY push my buttons some more. >_> just DIE do the entire fuckin world a favor and CHOKE ON THAT RAZOR YOU OBSESSIVE USELESS PIECE OF HUMAN REFUSE
*anger is off the charts so will end it there*


You pretty much said what I wanted to say.

I've never hated an anime character so much has I do Yuka (sorry yuka fans I just don't get what you see in her) >:O

Yuka is seriously off her rocker why won't they just lock her up forever or just KILL her.

Overall a good episode.
T.T Yukiko-Chan!!!! Why her and not Yuka >_<
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1st of all it's the best ep so far - though battles (or rather animation of battles...) still sucks.
And yeah - it's somewhat like:
watching - everything's fine
yuka onscreen - RAGE
yuka has gone somewhere - everything's fine again
and it's just repeating over and over through whole 11 Eyes...

And yeah - number of episode is actually how much 'Annoyance' points she has...
I'll keep my fingers crossed for her soon death... and a painful one.


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Just me that are thinking MisuzuxKakeru?
I hate Yuka more and more. Damn ugly bitch >.<

Awesome episode. Liselotte gave me the Higurashi/Umineko feeling, creepy...
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Chiisus said:
Just me that are thinking MisuzuxKakeru?

lol...it's certainly not just you.I bet at least 70% of the fans want it.

Chiisus said:
Awesome episode. Liselotte gave me the Higurashi/Umineko feeling, creepy...

Yeah,when she transformed and her eyes became green it was indeed creepy :s

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ChaosLegion said:
Chiisus said:
Just me that are thinking MisuzuxKakeru?

lol...it's certainly not just you.I bet at least 70% of the fans want it.

Moar like 99.99%, I mean.. the only KakeruXYuka-supporter is francismeunier, right?
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