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Jun 6, 2015 3:25 AM
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Welp I gotta say, Chiba-usa's new form has quite a different personality.

That's Black Lady for ya I guess reborn as the queen of Genesis. A lot of build up that sets the direction of the next episode. Also, Wiseman is one cruel bastard even to his comrades.
Jun 6, 2015 5:45 AM
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Has anyone else noticed all the really cute clothes Usagi wears in this series? I love the jumper dress she was wearing in this episode before she transformed.
Jun 6, 2015 7:43 AM
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Black Lady sure fits her, she has a really dark personality. I don't know about you guys, but I feel like Saphir and the other one will turn good and betray Wiseman and Black Lady. He brainwashed them, eyes turned solid gray. Then a few moments later Saphir's eyes aren't solid in color and instead are back to normal. It didn't seem like they were completely brainwashed.


Usagi's PJ's so cute. She's worn lots of pretty adorable clothes when not in Sailor uniform.


Black Lady straight up going for the Silver Crystal from Usagi xD
It was obvious she'd get thrown out of the castle. From the looks of things, the battle will be intense and the preview seems to show Pluto in action. I'd like to see how strong Pluto is. To me I always thought the Outer Senshi to be stronger than the inner ones.

Jun 6, 2015 8:36 AM
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This episode had worse animation than few previous ones. They even had some extra time for making this, but no...

King Endymion touched Diana in that one scene? I thought he was a hologram.
Remember how Chibiusa ran past him in episode 20?
Jun 6, 2015 11:38 AM
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Usagi used too power and that's why she fainted? I thought she fainted because she thought she'd never see her Mamoru (and Chibi-Usa) again. Because if this was the power from the last episode, it sure took its sweet-ass time catching up to her. But that's probably the three weeks talking.
Jun 6, 2015 1:57 PM
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Animation was definitely a lot better than act 22. So happy we finally get to see Black Lady! I was really surprised they didn't cut the scene Black Lady kisses Mamo-chan. The next episode looks intense
Jun 6, 2015 2:36 PM
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So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?
Jun 6, 2015 2:54 PM
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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?
For me it's a positive kind of creepy. Right now, Black Lady is actually my favorite character of this series.
Jun 6, 2015 3:36 PM
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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?

That made me go roll me eyes and shake my head. And people harp on the DiC dub for giving incest context to Haruka and Michiru.
Jun 6, 2015 3:39 PM

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That time shockwave caught my attention. Finally getting good... maybe.
Jun 6, 2015 9:59 PM

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Aaaand the art reverts to the usual brick faces. Now that didn't take long.

I can't believe they went down the possessive incest route between Black Lady and Mamoru, then calling him Endymion....? Was that in the manga too? I don't recall it being in the old anime....
Jun 7, 2015 2:03 AM
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Aaaand the art reverts to the usual brick faces. Now that didn't take long.

I can't believe they went down the possessive incest route between Black Lady and Mamoru, then calling him Endymion....? Was that in the manga too? I don't recall it being in the old anime....


Yes, that was in the manga too.
Jun 7, 2015 2:06 AM

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Queen of Darkness eh. I thought that title belonged to Queen Nehelenia.
Jun 7, 2015 3:47 AM

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Anyone else noticed the different transformation theme o: ?

Also, I felt really happy with this episode. Favorite arc, favorite villian aka Black Lady!
I prefer this Black Lady 1000 times more than the old anime one ;o; !
Jun 7, 2015 4:31 AM

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Man...I never really thought about it, but now I really think it's damn creepy that Chibiusa has a crush on her dad. I mean wtf

Jun 7, 2015 7:21 AM
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HanaeX said:
Anyone else noticed the different transformation theme o: ?


It's just the old theme, "Tsuki ni Kawatte, Oshioki yo!". (It was used in Act 5 and Act 8).

I never really thought about it, but now I really think it's damn creepy that Chibiusa has a crush on her dad.


Well, Black Lady is supposed to be creepy.
Jun 8, 2015 7:08 PM

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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?

I was just as creeped out as I was when I saw/read that scene in the manga.

Though, to their credit, it was animated exactly as it was shown in the manga, in all it's creepy glory.
Jun 8, 2015 7:23 PM

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Black Lady OMG
Jun 9, 2015 12:55 PM

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Ewww daddy-daughter relationship taken too far.

Wait if only members of the royal family can enter the palace why was Sailor V allowed to enter a couple of episodes ago?
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Jun 9, 2015 10:13 PM

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Joining the Dark side FTW
Jun 10, 2015 4:22 PM
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That love triangle between Usagi, Chibi-usa, and Mamoru is just plain weird.

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Wait if only members of the royal family can enter the palace why was Sailor V allowed to enter a couple of episodes ago?


Maybe the Sailor Scouts are an exception since they serve the queen?
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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?

IAM! &+ iam pretty sure she is conscious to the fact that is her father o.o
"Whatever happens, happens."



Jun 13, 2015 3:04 AM

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watdahell!? Future Chibiusa went Evil mode!? and calls herself Usagi Small Lady Serenity!?
Wiseman badguy, Prince Dimande & Saphir badguys also but it seems that both have different objectives. Wiseman only a bit more powerful than Dimande.
Wiseman's a perv because since Chibiusa cannot go old and stuck on that age, he made Future Chibiusa with bigboobs...Wiseman's a perv!


Jun 13, 2015 5:43 AM

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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?


Lol yup i was grossed out >_<
Jun 19, 2015 7:27 PM

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WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?


Honestly not surprised at this point. Chibi-usa always acted a little strange around Mamoru. She's got daddy issues.
Jun 23, 2015 12:28 PM

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One thing I don't like in this episode is Chibiusa kissing her dad. I mean that's creepy and uncomfortable.

Other than that creepy experience, it was decent episode.
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Jul 11, 2015 7:42 PM

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Great episode :)

Chibi-usa definitely grew, in the "right" places :D

So Dimande and Saphir just became pawns to Wiseman just like that?!

Yeah it was weird seeing Chibi-usa kissing his own father like that, but eh she always love Mamoru right when she saw him back on earth.

Can't wait for the next episode!! Definitely getting better :)
Jul 15, 2015 8:42 AM

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Black lady is one fine lady.
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Good old Tokyo Tower :)
This brought back a lot of nostalgia for me. I remember when I was a kid watching anime I'd always see the Tokyo Tower and dreamed of going there one day. Now I live in Japan and can see the Tokyo Tower from my office! These days anime and drama often show the Tokyo Sky Tree instead of the Tokyo Tower, but I was glad Sailor Moon stuck to it's roots with the Tokyo Tower :) Nostalgia~~!
Sep 14, 2015 7:47 AM

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MaliyaWong said:
WolfWood37 said:
So no one is creeped out about Black Lady kissing Endymion like that?
For me it's a positive kind of creepy. Right now, Black Lady is actually my favorite character of this series.


She's aweseome. The last episode better be, him with a mask on saying, "Black Lady, I am your father..."
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Oct 15, 2015 6:22 PM

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Wow....Chibiusa REALLY loves her dad lol.
Jul 7, 2016 7:32 PM

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So does Mamo have like magic junk or something? Even his daughter wants all up in his business.
Jun 13, 2017 1:03 PM

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First of all, very unsettled that Chibiusa/Black Lady has a crush on her Dad *cringe*
Secondly, I hope they crush her into dust for being such a huge jerk to everyone!
Lastly, down with Nemesis and the Wiseman!
Jun 17, 2017 2:01 AM

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I do like them adding the factoid that Chibi-Usa never grew into an adult body, so it makes her turning into Black Lady more of a shocker. I do see we have the return of the daddy issue like in the original, but it's just playing on source material, urk.

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The Sixth Sailor Guardian joins the team!
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Dec 21, 2021 6:14 PM

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MistyBlue said:
That love triangle between Usagi, Chibi-usa, and Mamoru is just plain weird.


Ugh…. Yes. Weird and yuck.
Mar 31, 2022 12:22 PM

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the kiss was more passionate in the manga, anyways, a decent episode
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Nice enough follow up to the previous episode and Black Lady is scaaary as all hell.

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