Zero no Tsukaima ~Princesses no Rondo~ Episode 11 Discussion

sakuko said:
My highlights:

A very loud proclamation to go save Tabitha... in a pub full of soldiers of the opposing faction. Very frakin' clever!

The "epic" battle with the elf... half a season of build up and we have a conclusion with that in under 10 minutes. Sappy script included.

Flat breasts joke with potion slip... wow, I didn't see that coming. *rolls eyes*

You couldn't see it, but I'm imagining my expression of "WTF?" was hilarious throughout this entire episode.

The episode wasn't all bad. But honestly, this is probably one of the worst second to last episodes I've watched in a while. The scriptwriters are really reaching here to just conveniently explain away every plot hole. I could see it now... "So, they're going to invade the castle to save Tabitha... um... oh yeah, the soldiers... convenient sleeping potion? That's good... oh yeah, the elf... um... how many episodes left? One?!?! Bugger... um... dispell the sword and swing it, that worked in my D&D game last night. Uh... so... final episode, we'll just rush some crap in there and begin marketing season 4. Quality be damned! People will do anything to hear Rie Kugimiya's voice."

Mikhael04 said:
Eechi to the max - and sadly, I've already voiced my opinions on that too many times this series. It's just died for me, the magic is gone (pun not intended). I think the majority of us are just watching it for the old show that we loved long ago.

The battle was refreshing, but as sakuko said it seemed half hearted in the end, which was depressing. In fact sakuko's discussion of scriptwriters is golden and probably true. XD

angel999, is that really true that the guy that did the first 2 seasons left?? If so, that would make SO MUCH sense.

angel999 said:


I agreed with you but you SHOULD BLAME really the guy who is doing the season now cause the guy of season 1 and 2 has LEFT. Don't know why though he would go just like that....new life maybe?

Kvakond said:


Now that explains everything. Like why this whole season was just one major disappointment! I mean I truly loved the first two seasons, but like Mikhael said, the series died a while ago, and I'm just hangin with this show for the memories of the good old days.

There is no plot, no magic, no romance, no jokes (i'm talking about those funny ones that actually make you lol), and definatly no action. The so-called battle in this ep lasted for like what.. 15-20 secs? I have no problems with fan service, but even that got boring a long while ago. This show used to be a lot more than a simple ecchi-fest.

I won't even go and ask the question: what the hell happened to ep 13? I just dont care anymore. Squeeze as much random crap in the last episode as possible, than wrap the whole thing up, and start planning season 4!

FayteKenshi said:
Like many replies here. My expression is all WTF? thoughout that episode... Thats just too much ecchi!! Now all the female character in the episode are acting like whore.. episode8/9/10 is good... but 11? WTF. Disappointed.

angel999 said:


Yeah second that and seriously WTF is the production thinking of hiring the guy who makes the boob things of Sekirei and Ikkitousen. BET YOU GUYS DID NOT KNOW THAT. Yup same guy who made all of the glory of the echhi scene in Ikkitousen and Sekirei.

BASED ON WHAT I READ: here is the best part: THE GUY is famous for making shows into ECCHI SHOWS.

FayteKenshi said:


WTF! Serious? I really hate to see Zero no tsukaima turning into an ecchi show.. I want my season 1 and 2 back!!

DeathfireD said:
what a waste of time....I can't believe this is how it's going to end. I honestly hope, if they make a 4th series, that it's better then this train wreck.

I'm happy I wasn't losing it when I thought the show was being written by two different people. Thanks to Angel999 now I know there's a new writer and thats why this series sucked ass.

isn't 13 a DVD only episode? I read it somewhere but I forgot where.

viesiu said:
?? The preview said, that the next episode is the last one. But shouldn't there be still 2 eps left?

angel999 said:


Read that info here: h**p://www.sankakucomplex.com......so you can check if you want.

Torisunanohokori said:
Ratings for this show went down 100 places in like a day.

FayteKenshi said:
Whoever did the writing for this episode must be shot and hanged. It's soooooo fucking unrealistic and contradicting, it just ruined my image of ZnT... it was going so well.. 8 is good... 9 is amazing.... 10 is not bad... but 11? Screw that!

Because of that I dropped the rating from 9 to 7 -_-..

The preview isn't exciting either... haiz.... 12 better be a good episode... lets see a miracle like 2nd season's last episode...

I suspect a sexual scene of louise and saito at the end of episode 12 O_o

angel999 said:
I AM HERE AND EVERYWHERE TO TRY AND HELP IN MANY WAYS.

Anime-Destiny said:
I thought that this episode was somewhat a disappointment for myself. So far, this third season had a little too much fanservice in its story and this episode unfortunely continues this trend. Also, they really rush in having Heinretta pardon Colbert and the others without an explanation and I didn't like how the situation between Agnes and Colbert unfolded in this episode.

Mikhael04 said:

>_> Are you God?

What I find scary is that this series is still ranked higher than the second series, which I thoroughly enjoyed minus the atrocious ending.

After seeing this season, I'm really not too sure I even want a fourth season. I can't see it getting much better unless the replace their entire writing team, and I can't see them doing that.

What angers me the
most is it's taken them up to episode 9 to even get a plot going. There is so much more they could have done with this season, but instead it's felt like I could have set up a charity organisation to feed orphans and done something worth while in the time I've been watching this.

After the ending of last season and what this season has been like, I hold no hope for any decency in the next episode. Lets just hope it is a bit more painless than this episode.

Azul said:


>.<; They spent too much time on fan service this season. They NEED to focus on the plot points. The plot could of been way better. T.T;

I am disappointed. D: I had to rate it down a bit.

formosan said:


The problem is that they love the cliches too much.

Saito getting kicked in the balls is a cliche.

All the males getting turned on by partial nudity is a cliche.

They spend time on the cliches, and they don't have time to develop:

1) Louise's internal emotional conflicts;

2) Louise's magical development;

3) Colbert and gunpowder girl's emotional tension;

4) The nature of elven magic;

etc.

They *tried* to develop Louise's character in this episode.

A) Louise tried to get Saito to look at her;

B) Louise tried to chat up the baron to get him drunk/potioned -- in order to show that she's an independent woman who can undertake missions on her own.

These were feeble attempts at showing Louise growing as a character. IMHO these attempts failed miserably.

formosan said:


The problem is that they love the cliches too much.

Saito getting kicked in the balls is a cliche.

All the males getting turned on by partial nudity is a cliche.

They spend time on the cliches, and they don't have time to develop:

1) Louise's internal emotional conflicts;

2) Louise's magical development;

3) Colbert and gunpowder girl's emotional tension;

4) The nature of elven magic;

etc.

They *tried* to develop Louise's character in this episode.

A) Louise tried to get Saito to look at her;

B) Louise tried to chat up the baron to get him drunk/potioned -- in order to show that she's an independent woman who can undertake missions on her own.

These were feeble attempts at showing Louise growing as a character. IMHO these attempts failed miserably.

angel999 said:

I just wanted to tell you something I though. Maybe they just wanted money so when they make 4th season they don't have to put much to make money such as the fanservice BUT to do this to whole season is a BIT TOO MUCH if you ask me. This series is quite popular in Japan so doing that is bad to the fans.

Jacut said:
I wonder why I'm still watching this below average show. I'm not bored and I've got tons of things to do, so it must be habit, I wish I had not started to watch the first season, two years ago...