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Apr 8, 2009 12:32 AM
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its finally over. well the fighting was nothing impressive. seemed like this last episode seemed like it went on forever. i have to say tho the ending scene of luke returning was very well done and by far my favorite out of the whole entire show.

gets a 7/10
Apr 8, 2009 12:54 AM
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agreed and i really want to emphasize that Luke's return at the end was fucking awesome. Seriously, I love it when characters becomes badass like that. Sucks that they rarely last long. Overall, get a 7 from me as well.
Apr 8, 2009 2:36 AM
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The end is best of all.
Fight was good too.
Apr 8, 2009 2:43 AM
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i really enjoyed this series, it had a great ending too. the only problem with this series was the obvious rushed plot since it was so long and complex, aswell as the fact they missed out lot's of side stories. guess i haven't played the game so i wouldn't know them. and my own personal one, THERE WAS NO KISS BETWEEN LUKE AND TEAR :( i wanted to see that. atleast luke looked badass at the end :P

overall i give this series a 8/10 and most importantly i really enjoyed watching it.
Apr 8, 2009 4:55 AM
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They gave a slightly better ending. I'm more satisfy I can see the face of Luke in that scene.
Apr 8, 2009 5:19 AM
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This anime was a bit confusing for me at times, but I guess it was a fun ride. Loved the ending with Luke coming back though. ^^

6/10
Apr 8, 2009 6:01 AM
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I quite enjoyed the series actually. I knew little bout the game and even though i still have questions i want answered that let me feeling slightly unsatisfied at the end, i enjoyed watching it immesely and for that, it gets a very generous 9/10.

P.S. Luke at the end looked awesome!!
Apr 8, 2009 7:35 AM
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amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
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Apr 8, 2009 8:34 AM
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Oh, NOW they cue the organ music when they get to Van? xD; But I always loved Van's Final Form..

I'm glad they made the fight almost as good as the game one..though I'm puzzled as to why they didn't let Van use his Mystic Arte :/ That would have been special.

Oh, and of COURSE Tear and Luke aren't gonna kiss. You know, Luke doesn't actually look at Tear in 'that way'. He never did and probably never will. He only sees her as a really really good friend who happens to be a chick. You can argue, but it's the truth :/

And at the end, it's not really only Luke. Luke and Asch's body fused after Luke caught his body in the force field thing. Though Asch is technically already dead, the mass majority of that person is Luke.

Just a note about the God Generals..Dist is like the only one that isn't dead. Not that they showed it in the anime, but he's actually in jail in Grand Chokmah. Jade had him arrested :x
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Apr 8, 2009 8:51 AM

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That was a very good adventure Anime,all of the characters were cool.

Team Luke was awesome.
This show featured two of my favorite voice actors,the other voices were also very good.
I wished for more interaction between the characters like it was shown in the beginning of this show.
In my opinion the story part was rushed,nearly every of the later episodes had three or more different locations in 24 minutes.
I think this show needs 50 Episodes to balance story and character depht.

Some other minor points I disliked were that the characters always had the same clothes,the end of ep 26 was an exception.
The fights were a little bit too short

Season 2, Season 2 ... please ; )
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Apr 8, 2009 9:18 AM

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Considering this is the game ending there probably wont be another season.. although Luke/Asch did not speak in the game ending which was interesting.
I REALLY wanted them to show Van's mystic art considering how badass it is but i was a little dissapointed on that fact, all in all since i had already beaten the game multiple times and knowing what would transpire, ill give it an 8, it was very loyal to the game in my opinion. i think they didnt potray Luke being an asshole enough in the couple of first episodes, because in the game no matter how you look at it he is a complete moron.
I am glad they didnt potray how he was at the last third of the game where he becomes completely emo like, it was tolerable in the anime as opposed to the game where he was just ANNOYING.
i liked the animation of Jade's past that was well done i thougt.
and those are my final impressions.. I wanted to see neblim :(
Apr 8, 2009 9:19 AM

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Just a note about the God Generals..Dist is like the only one that isn't dead. Not that they showed it in the anime, but he's actually in jail in Grand Chokmah. Jade had him arrested :x

actually hes only put in jail after they kill neblim in the game side quest, before that hes probably wandering around somewhere..
though correct me if im wrong..
Apr 8, 2009 9:28 AM
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Luke at the end was awesome. Too bad there wasn't much of that.
Apr 8, 2009 10:46 AM

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Metal-Blaze said:
amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
Nope u're right he was still alive. That was the only way the could combine both Lukes into one.
Apr 8, 2009 11:56 AM

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YuenSan said:
Metal-Blaze said:
amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
Nope u're right he was still alive. That was the only way the could combine both Lukes into one.


Sorry for my stupidity, but can you tell about it more? I know that Asch was in Luke, but so why he move the hand?

The end is good, I was afraid, that Tear and the others will be waiting 'forever'
Apr 8, 2009 12:12 PM
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YuenSan said:
Metal-Blaze said:
amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
Nope u're right he was still alive. That was the only way the could combine both Lukes into one.


i take it you only find that out clearly if you played the game. just out of curriosity what consol is the game out on i'd like to play it XD
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Apr 8, 2009 12:20 PM

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Great anime series. I liked the game's ending better since it had better music, although this one had better animation. I for one had never played the game so I think the stuff wasn't really rushed or anything. Anyways it was a great experience and I'll say that it was awesome.

Game ending: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqkLO6Vpts&fmt=18
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Apr 8, 2009 12:22 PM

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So if Luke and Ash became one what Natalia and Tear gonna do? I didn't play the game but still enjoy its anime.
Apr 8, 2009 1:38 PM

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So if Luke and Ash became one what Natalia and Tear gonna do? I didn't play the game but still enjoy its anime.

Tear will marry Luke she said suki at the end.
Apr 8, 2009 2:14 PM

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10/10 (of course!)
I don't understand how it's possible to give such a good anime a lower score. :)
Apr 8, 2009 3:58 PM

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In the animation though doesn't Jade kill Dist with his uber spell?

The ending was good animation wise (with the happy world scenes) but I perfer the emotional impact of the original (both music and dialog) i.e. I don't want to be at Luke's grave outburst.

So annoyed no hug scene though.

Game is PS2 (USA/Japan) release only.

Also the game fight between Luke and Asche is a lot more epic with meaning of birth track.

This in comparison was like meh no mystic artes or fast paced music.

As for final Luke, its both of them merged as one being (the long hair, different shade)

Love story in the anime not as noticeable tbh, certain scenes are missing like when Tear is cradling Luke and when she is has a panic stricken look in her face when Luke and Natalie are surrounded.

Also ingame, Asche can cast explosion as well but in the animation it seems to delegate everyone to one "class"
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Apr 8, 2009 4:51 PM

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pretty good final battle
overall not bad of an anime and actually quite enjoyed it
Apr 8, 2009 6:15 PM

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SilentFate said:


Just a note about the God Generals..Dist is like the only one that isn't dead. Not that they showed it in the anime, but he's actually in jail in Grand Chokmah. Jade had him arrested :x


actually hes only put in jail after they kill neblim in the game side quest, before that hes probably wandering around somewhere..
though correct me if im wrong..

Yeah that was what I meant. I didn't wanna mention the side quest 'cause some people might think I'm pushing it :/ It being a 'side quest' and all, but it still counts.

Whoever said Asch was alive at the end...no. Sure, his hand may have twitched, but I assure you he was as dead as a doornail. In the game, his skin was as pale as a ghost when he died. The anime just didn't make it as pale. But he was dead.
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Apr 8, 2009 7:19 PM

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Oh, and of COURSE Tear and Luke aren't gonna kiss. You know, Luke doesn't actually look at Tear in 'that way'. He never did and probably never will. He only sees her as a really really good friend who happens to be a chick. You can argue, but it's the truth :/

And at the end, it's not really only Luke. Luke and Asch's body fused after Luke caught his body in the force field thing. Though Asch is technically already dead, the mass majority of that person is Luke.


1.) Being the hopeless romantic that I am, I do think Luke had feelings for Tear. Before they land on Hod, in episode 24 I think, Luke and Tear are sitting under the night sky on the flying ship and it seemed like he wanted to tell Tear something at first but decided against it. But it looked like he just "settled" for a thank you. I think he wanted to tell her that he loved her, but thought against it because he knew he was going to disappear in the end (or so that's my theory anyway). It seemed that way both in the game and the anime.

2.) The way I see it is that Asch is dead, no doubt about that. But Luke's body was going to disappear anyway because of the disappearance of his body fonons. So I had always thought that Luke's soul was transferred into Asch's body. *Shrugs* A far'fetched theory, but one that I think works and kind of explains the ending of where we see Asch's body but Luke's mind. This would explain why the sword on his back is adjusted in a way that a left-handed user would be able to draw it.

Anyway, I loved the game, but this anime adaptation disappointed me. Very poor script and a lot of the fights were extremely anticlimactic as compared to the game. Gave it a 5/10.
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Considering this is the game ending there probably wont be another season.. although Luke/Asch did not speak in the game ending which was interesting.


What? He did... >>

I liked the anime. Granted it didn't have everything the game provided, but I wasn't expecting that in the first place anyway.

8/10 for lacking a bit in the combat portions and other small things.
Apr 8, 2009 9:54 PM

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I have to say tho the ending scene of luke returning was very well done and by far my favorite out of the whole entire show.

7/10 for me too

But wait didnt Asch come back to life too??
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As for final Luke, its both of them merged as one being (the long hair, different shade)

...?
Apr 8, 2009 10:36 PM

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Meh, this was a mediocre show with horrible pacing and a terrible lead character and some suspect "character development." This felt more like a rip off of better rpgs (FFX) than it did a good stand alone idea. Especially with the end (ruins from Besaid...Tear/Yuna's monologue).

I don't know. I was ready to give it credit for handling Luke and Asch's death with ambiguity, but they wen't and spoiled it in the end (though they did leave Asch "dead").

Too trite, too saccharine.
4/10


Apr 8, 2009 10:44 PM
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I have to say tho the ending scene of luke returning was very well done and by far my favorite out of the whole entire show.

7/10 for me too

But wait didnt Asch come back to life too??
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As for final Luke, its both of them merged as one being (the long hair, different shade)

...?


Most logical assumption is that Luke's soul transfered into Asch's body, which is why his hand moved (body brought back to life?).

Luke had light shaded hair tips (notably his bangs) while Asch's was dark shaded. Now that they're one, his hair is pure red.
Apr 8, 2009 10:54 PM

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The anime was okay at first kind of fresh but immidietly began to stink as the story telling became horrible

I hate how they kill off the only charachter i liked Asche, i was hoping the rest of the cast would have died instead...

Main characher was disgusting, van was stupid, at the end they look as if van was theri best friend right after they kill him

No explaination was given for why Luke was alive either meh 5/10
Apr 10, 2009 12:12 AM
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I really wanted Luke and Tear to hug in the end! Will there be a second season? I hope their romance develop then.
Apr 10, 2009 7:27 AM
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Haven't watched it yet, but I know the game. I was really worried they were going to screw up final luke. from what ive read in this thread, they do final luke justice, so now im excited to see how well they do it. i dont think they can get it as good, because it was epic in the game, but i can still seeing it done well.

and i thought the nebilim sidequest was the "latest" story event with Dist in it. I didn't think there was anything after that. maybe i'm just confused because i had to do that fight so many times. (cant skip cutscenes and the intro cutscene always had nebilim pwn dist. so i watched dist get pwned more times than he deserves.)
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i'm glad they tried to cram all the magic they could into the fight, that was pretty cool. i'm also glad luke got his hair back, he looks much cooler that way. good ending to a good adventure.
Apr 11, 2009 4:42 PM

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Several persons fighting against an enemy only!
Was not heroic!
Apr 11, 2009 7:19 PM

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The animation and story quite similar to the game and i think that has a positive and negative effect. the positive effect is we could watch it without have to worry the story changes from the game and could predict what's come next. The negative is the ending. The game's ending leaves a very important last question, who is survived, Luke ? Or Asch ?

That's what i dissapoint in this series. I watch this because expecting there would be a conclusion about this, but sadly, that ain't happened....
Apr 11, 2009 7:54 PM

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Oh, so Asch and Luke kinda merged together? Hm. At any rate, the ending was very well done with Tear's signing and Luke coming back and all (He looked awesome, too bad there wasn't a kiss). The anime started just fine for me but later on the episodes started to drag on and be really confusing. So, 8/10.


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Metal-Blaze said:
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amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
Nope u're right he was still alive. That was the only way the could combine both Lukes into one.


i take it you only find that out clearly if you played the game. just out of curriosity what consol is the game out on i'd like to play it XD


They actually spoil the whole series in the OP if you read the lyrics and understand what they mean. I mentioned this in one of the first episodes to see if anyone else noticed. It's pretty funny, I'm used to seeing visual spoilers in OPs but when they basically explain what's going to happen it just seems funny. Especially the part where they say "and we become one" at the end lol.
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DeathfireD said:
Metal-Blaze said:
YuenSan said:
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amazing ending but was it just me or was ashz hand twitchin at the end when luke was holding him?
Nope u're right he was still alive. That was the only way the could combine both Lukes into one.


i take it you only find that out clearly if you played the game. just out of curriosity what consol is the game out on i'd like to play it XD


They actually spoil the whole series in the OP if you read the lyrics and understand what they mean. I mentioned this in one of the first episodes to see if anyone else noticed. It's pretty funny, I'm used to seeing visual spoilers in OPs but when they basically explain what's going to happen it just seems funny. Especially the part where they say "and we become one" at the end lol.


i think that's quite clever really cause if you had no idea what would happen eg, being me and haven't had played the game you wouldn't have realised. Guess the whole thing was based on the world following the score and having a written future. Seems like it was an symbolic idea saying the series would follow its own script :P I probably just sound like an idiot now.
Apr 13, 2009 7:00 AM

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sorry but i'm giving 6/10... cause i didn't enjoy the show very much, i only watch it 'cause guy, asch and sync was there. i onøy wanna know about their past :p

but the ending was beautiful <3
Apr 13, 2009 2:12 PM
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Great show? hard to say. The show obviously has many flaws. This anime certainlly can be dragged out to make the anime much more stronger. The ending was awesoem, but Is till dont know why Luke survived so I went like wtf. Anyways the show was boring at parts and too repitive in some cases. Overall i would give it a 7/10, though i feel i should give it lower for some reason. Not gonna explain y but i do got good resons for such a score.
Apr 13, 2009 4:54 PM

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I thought the Anme was very well done. It followed very close to the game.

I can see why people might say it was rushed, which it did seem like it alittle, but that should also be expected.
I kinda knew they would cut out a lot of the side-quests or other things that wasn't apart the main story, since the story is still understandable without them.

I would have to give the series 10 / 10
I think i gave it such a high score because i beat the game before i got too much into the episodes.
With the story already in memory, even a lot of the side-quests, i had already filled the gaps from the gameplay that things that were cut from the anime.
You don't have to play the game to get the anime, but it would help you get it more then if you hadn't played it.

I noticed something ironic at the end.
This all started with Tear meeting Luke after trying to kill her brother.
Then it ends, after Tear had fallen in love with Luke, AFTER she killed her brother.

They should have showed just a little more, like some scenes during the ending song, like more of an aftermath of how they all went their ways or did w/e.
Like other anime's sometime do. They show more clips that might give some viewers "more closure' that others might want.

I do think Tear and Luke make a good couple.
Luke changed soo much from the beginning, starting as a spoiled, brat, rich kid, to someone who fight to protect anyone he can, even if it means his life in the process.
Apr 14, 2009 2:39 AM

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Found the Van fight a bit disappointing =/ but yay for a happy ending although it kind of killed the mood when Luke re-appeared although his hair looks better than ever xD! This series was between a 7 and an 8 for me but I decided that it deserved an 8 =D
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why did luke wait 2 years to come back??
tear said it was 2 years since that all happened, then the team came and she sand her hymn
and then luke just comes back all of a sudden??

where's the sense in that?
instead of making every1 worry y didn't they bring him back lyk a month at most after it happened?

or does it just take a long time to combine bodies??
Apr 16, 2009 11:49 AM

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why did luke wait 2 years to come back??
tear said it was 2 years since that all happened, then the team came and she sand her hymn
and then luke just comes back all of a sudden??

where's the sense in that?
instead of making every1 worry y didn't they bring him back lyk a month at most after it happened?

or does it just take a long time to combine bodies??


lol I was wondering about that too

Anyways I really enjoyed this anime, even though I was a bit late in finishing it xP
Apr 17, 2009 6:12 PM

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Disliked the ending :<
It was too predictable.
Apr 22, 2009 12:16 PM

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I really enjoyed the character development at the beginning. But after that it just went down for me ==> 7/10
Apr 24, 2009 6:03 PM

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They gave a slightly better ending. I'm more satisfy I can see the face of Luke in that scene.


yeah I liked this ending :)

I Liked the game way more though it was funnier and it was just better! but the ending scene in the anime was the best also I liked luke more in the game for some reason
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Apr 28, 2009 9:31 AM

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I Realy enjoyed this series, but with a slight confusion in the end.

I believed that when Asch's hand twitched Luke would enter in his body, since Asch is already dead. It would also explain how his hair grew so much.

But In the last scene it seemed that everyone wasn't really suprised with Luke's appearance, were they that confident, even after two years that he would return?

Wasn't Mieu supposed to only follow Luke for 1 year?
May 2, 2009 9:50 PM

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2 things got to me about this episode. The first was that the place suddenly started shaking. It's falling down! We have to get out of here! But, we have to say goodbye to Luke first! And so, for some strange and unknown reason, during their goodbyes the place STOPS shaking and falling down. (And their goodbyes took quite a while!) It was almost as though the building knew that they were busy and didn't want to interrupt them. huh.

another thing that got to me was how over the two years no one aged or even changed their clothes. Not even little Annise! Is she doomed to forever be stuck in the body of a pre-teen forever?

7/10 for me. It was fun, but not great.
May 3, 2009 6:37 PM

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Finally got around to finishing this. I don't think many people would have kept watching if it was 52 episodes though; if you want the entire story, it's only ~60 hours for you.


Going based on how well it follows the game, its a 9/10. going by how much I liked it, 8 or 9... I'll leave it at 8.
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It would be a good end with Luke dead. But it was not as bad as I imagined xD
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