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kaminakun said: Eternal-Dragon said: Best Realistic(excluiding Clannad magic) Romance Anime I have seen by far. By Clannad magic I assume you mean the ending? Thats not the only thing. The cat turning into a human at the begining of AS as well. Whats wrong with the lightball? You guys wanted a depressing ending? |
| I was thoroughly disappointed with the ending, actually. It took everything that happened before and just put it aside. It was almost as if they didn't know how to steer away from a bad ending, so they just made the rest of it non-canon and made up a new story to replace it. I was rather enjoying watching Tomoya rebuild his life after his loss. He had to pick himself up and learn how to be a father. It was great. But this ending... well, it just hit the reset button. They should have just let Nagisa live from the start (I say that since I'm a Nagisa fan, but still...). Great series, still deserves the 10/10, but I'm going to just declare this "proper" ending unofficial and make up a new one in my head. I think it will involve giant robots... |
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| Wow, I have just one word to describe this, and that's 'beautiful'. I can't even recall having bawled from happiness once, but this episode did it. The atmosphere, the music, the animations, everything was just so beautiful and above all, the fact that the family is finally together. Didn't mind the supernatural part at all. I mean, it wasn't the first time we saw such things in Clannad. I do feel like this is the end of the series, though. They could've managed without next-week's episode. Someone asked 'Did Tomoya knew what happened in the last few episodes, when Nagisa awoke?' I actually immediately thought he was, since he seemed to 'wake up' at 9:32 due to Ushio's crying, looked sad (as if he knew what would happen) and had some 'flashbacks'. His face also looked surprised when Nagisa said "Tomoya-kun..." But I think it's better that he knew. Like someone mentioned earlier, the last few episodes would be a waste (and especially a waste of tears, for some of us, apparently) if they were for nothing. |
| Well that confused the hell out of me, I now have no idea what time frame it is, whether Ushio and Nagisa are alive or what the heck just happened. But none the less I cried most of the way through, as it just seemed so beautiful... |
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| Pretty disappointing ending to a good series in my opinion. They built up the suspense for good portion of episodes and just made it crash and burn like it didn't happen at all. I really wouldv'e prefered a sad ending to make it flow. The orbs where extremely random as well, they took about 30 seconds to explain them and being a non-game player,I was left dumbfounded of what had just happened. 3/5 |
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id said: So it's like reloading from the safe file when you get a bad end, and everyone lives happily ever after. Yea, Who have guessed that it would "reload" it? I know it's not making any sence, but I rather have an ending like this compared to a tragedy that everyone dies. Just like I wished, "How it would be, if Okazaki's family hasn't fallen apart", Good ending :D Good Anime. It isn't the best, but I had emotional moments :) Still wished that there would be an OVA or smt of Tomoya x Kyou, like Tomoyo chapter. |
KriegWurstMar 13, 2009 7:13 AM
| PERFECT! I know, i know... It is a litte stupid to suddely get everybody alive again, but if Ichigo does that every episode why not Nagisa? And I am a fan of happy endings. Happy family, Showing what everybody is doing and Fuuko ffs priceless episode!!! Ending just like i dreamed! tough i didnt expect Kyoani do that. 5/5 I am still a little confused about that other world girl and why nagisa/ushio came back to life but whatever! SO Beautiful and great animation quality! ps. Where/when i can get that song which was when tehy were showing how everybody was doing? |
kaminakun said: Xelzy said: Imo the whole lightbulb revive dead people made it drop from 10 to a 9 Agreed. For me Clannad AS dropped froma a 9 to a 8 because of that, it's very confusing. Clannad AS is still a good series, with some beautiful parts, but the first season was far more coherent. |
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| Wow, it was somehow so cute that they showed what kind of live would be if Nagisa was alive. But somehow so unrealistic :/ First season's ending was better. This season was better than the first one, but ending wasn't that good. |
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| I agree, the series was better than first season but the ending itself wasnt |
| ^ Confusing? How exactly o_0 You cant compare Season 1 to Season 2, since they are almost nothing a like. Season 1 concentrates on Comedy, while Season 2 to is more about Drama. Its obviously complicated for some people to understand. People that doesnt get whats going on then, use this link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/infiltrator65a/inte%20buggat%20album/1236943573387.png |
Eternal-DragonMar 13, 2009 8:30 AM
| I enjoyed Second Season more than the First. I enjoy more of the "After" parts, which is exactly what After Story is, I don't really like the build up of Tomoya having to choose a girl, it's just long & seen it all before lol. --- Yes, lovely, brilliant Second Season, Glad we get to see the whole family together =). I don't really mind the light bulb stuff as much, so it won't affect my view on Clannad =D KyoAni/Key did a great job. ~Abs |
This ending was really strange. Actually, the whole episode was strange. I'm glad to see that they're a big Dango Daikazoku but it was out of place in my opinion. I wish they went further into Ryou's arc. I enjoyed it a lot when I played the game. And wow... Tomoyo is still the best in my eyes. :] I wish they'd make a OVA for the Tomoyo manga. My favorite part of the episode. |
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| sigh. I fell for it again. Investing your emotions on an anime adapted from the Key games. should have learned better after watching Kanon that despite all the BAAWWWWWing in the middle part of the series, it will, should and must end with a happily-ever-after ending (with the aid of some supernatural phenomena). FFFFFFFUUUUU- |
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| 22 was 'ok'. It's clear they were only saving themselves from my wrath :) The last part was clearly filler, once they had done the first 3/5ths and ensured I wasn't going to hunt them down and hurt them they just filled up the rest with a silly diversion. I still want to kick someone for all the crying I was put through though. |
| While not technically anime, currently I am a big fan of Hatsune Miku. At least I can go see her in concert. |
| Loved the show but was not a fan of the final episode. |
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GilbertTheGarbo said: Pretty disappointing ending to a good series in my opinion. They built up the suspense for good portion of episodes and just made it crash and burn like it didn't happen at all. I really wouldv'e prefered a sad ending to make it flow. Same. I would rather they made this episode a sad ending, and then make the happy ending in the extra episode that is episode 23. And I have to agree that this season was better than the first, but the ending wasn't so good. |
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Avarice said: it will, should and must end with a happily-ever-after ending (with the aid of some supernatural phenomena). FFFFFFFUUUUU- True. I wish it wasn't such a happy ending, like Air. Although I don't mind the supernatural phenomena. I wish it ended better, although the whole series was simply amazing. |
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| I really enjoyed this series. I wasn't a huge fan of this episode though. I was going to give it a 10 til I watched the last ep. I just really enjoyed watching Tomoya try and fix his life every time something tragic happened. Also, Kotomi-chan in her car was awesome! :D |
| clannad- after story is soo good that i didnt really care that kyoani ended it the way it did. i think that tomoya was having a dream and saw his life how it would have been without nagisa, but then he wakes up to find nagisa and baby ushio alive and well. i really dont know how else to put it. i thought the ending was perfect though ^_^ one of my favorites of all time for sure |
draker said: Epic ending is epic. My favourite show ever. 10/10. Cant put it any better than that. yay for happy ending |
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| Alright, I saw the episode airing on TBS but I had to watch it on poor quality keyhole instead of tv, because my area gets MBS, and for some reason they're an episode behind! T_T Anyway, what was bugging me was the beginning dialogue between the girl and the robot so I watched the raw today and I was able to hear the dialogue better, I rough translated it for my friend, so I thought I'd share here also, for those peeps that watched the raw and likes them spoilers: MY OPINION: |
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Eternal-Dragon said: ^ Confusing? How exactly o_0 You cant compare Season 1 to Season 2, since they are almost nothing a like. Season 1 concentrates on Comedy, while Season 2 to is more about Drama. Its obviously complicated for some people to understand. People that doesnt get whats going on then, use this link: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/infiltrator65a/inte%20buggat%20album/1236943573387.png An anime ending should NOT require a flowchart for comprehension (no matter how helpful it is). |
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| That was some absolute bullshit. What they basically did was take all of the character development and the only emotionally moving part that happened in the show and erased it. Fuck you, Key. I'm dropping this to 3. Nothing that actually happened was any good. Fuuko couldn't even save this episode. The other world crap was nonsense...how did Ushio create her father? How does any of it make any sense? And then to go all the way back into time and somehow save Nagisa? That was too much. I would have dealt with them saving Ushio and just knocked it down a point, but saving Nagisa? And having that stupid montage? Ughhh. I really am not watching any other Key series. Fuck the fall anime coming up. Since they don't take anything seriously, but yet present everything in an overserious manner I just don't understand at all how they thought this garbage was a good idea. If it weren't for the animation, and what little I saw of Fuuko and Sunohara, then I would give this show a 1. Terrible. |
| Isn't that connection between Nagisa and Ushio proof that this all happens in the same timeline? If it really is just another world, then why did she care so much a bout that one world, and not just the other one with the happy people? Answer, there was only one other world. Or were you just "not smart enough" to not process the words that Big Ushio told Robo Tomoya? Essentially, they went back into time and presented everything from Nagisa's death forward as some kind of dream or delusion. And what reason do we have to believe that Big Ushio was making her mother sick before she even existed? |
| It was pleasant to get a happy ending for the sake of happy endings, but I think the series would have been alright without it. I couldn't say that it'd be better or worse since that would have depended on how KyoAni would've ended it. At least people won't go into a fit of rage (noteDhero notwithstanding) or cut themselves out of sadness from a series that generally headed downward emotionally. Overall I liked this season better than the first just for the emotional roller coaster it was: Them getting married, Nagisa dying, living with Ushio, reconciling family issues, Ushio dying; but I liked the ending of the first better. This was a very good series, but I wouldn't say perfect, but then again I've never rated anything perfect. It was nice to se where everyone was in life at during the montage with everyone. |
| First off let me say this, the Visual Novel had the same storyline as the anime, so blaming the anime for the ending is the same thing as saying "bleach sucks because aizen is the villain." despite that being the actual manga storyline as well. The anime doesn't need a flowcharter either. It's pretty easy to understand if you've paid attention to the anime AT ALL. 1. Magic and light's were present from season 1. It's to be expected to carry over. 2. The 16-21 were not "Wasted" time. He had to get his father's light, without it he wouldn't have been able to make the "wish". Since as it SAID the lights had to combine to create the miracle(learn to listen). Overall though, perfect anime, perfect music, perfect characters, perfect story, and perfect ending. I just finished the visual novel, and overall Clannad+AS is BETTER then the VN. Sure you are missing out on the individual character ends, but that doesn't really matter since the entire package is better as a storyline compared to the disjointed VN storyline. As i said before the ending is the same as the VN's ending. episode 21 where he collapses with her IS THE END OF THE VISUAL NOVEL'S BASE STORYLINE. Episode 22 is basically reloading the birth save and the true end. It's exactly how the story in the VN was meant to be taken as. clannad+as? A+ 100%, 100/100, |
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| That doesn't make sense at alll...AND IT'S JUST PERRRRRFECT!!! I never EVER thought that it'll have a happy ending.. I really LOVED it no matter what!!! |
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Drengot said: All those emotions, morals, and lessons i had on previous episodes lost its meaning after watching this episode. Terrible. 1/10. Again no they didn't, If we didn't go through the 16-21 episodes, Tomoya wouldn't have gotten his father's light and therefore been unable to make the wish. The fact that that misery happens is what allows him to experience a good future. |
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| Great ending. It explained mostly everything in the openings, and I believe that they followed the visual novel well. Inspiring story. Oo... and there's an extra episode too. :D |
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| I was confused about the ending but I knew that Key couldn't leave it all unfinished! Brilliant ending, so glad about the way everything turned out perfect! I couldn't wipe the huge smile off my face! |
| I think the ending seemed somewhat a little too happy... But what the heck... that's what we want anyway XD Great show! |
narutosangel said: i have to agree i was a little confused when Nagisa didn't die. Then i thought, "wait.... NAGISA DIDN'T DIE!!!!!! PARTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!" haha i was so happy and she turned out really pretty. it was a good ending, but i felt a little awkward at the end. i was expecting something else to happen that would make me cry (cause most things in this anime are super tear-jerkers) but it was actually happy! i was a little confused though because it's like Tomoya went back in time or something O.o That's exactly what happened, he used the power of the lights to get a second chance at a future together with nagisa. He actually died at the end of episode 21, that's why we never see him after Ushio's death. |
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| I liked the ending reaally, while it didnt make any sence that they simply rewinded and made her survive, i like it better than having nagisa and uchio dying. some of the last episodes have simply had me in tears, but i really preferred the happy ending. one question though, what to watch now? |
Bladin said: Drengot said: All those emotions, morals, and lessons i had on previous episodes lost its meaning after watching this episode. Terrible. 1/10. Again no they didn't, If we didn't go through the 16-21 episodes, Tomoya wouldn't have gotten his father's light and therefore been unable to make the wish. The fact that that misery happens is what allows him to experience a good future. Forgive me if I'm reading this wrong, but you sound almost rude. I'll admit, you are probably spot on. I honestly did not pay a bit of attention to the lights, and will keep a closer eye out when I rewatch the series without the weekly gaps in between. I've never played the visual novel, so I'm not comparing it in any way. My feelings on the ending are based entirely on the anime. After I saw that flowchart and gave it some thought, I did understand the ending, however it still did not make me enjoy it. Using a supernatural power to alter the past felt like a deus ex machina to me (one of my least favorite plot devices). I'm not saying that is what it was, just how it felt. Clearly, after reviewing the flowchart, my past recollections, and your comment, I realize that the anime was building up to it, but it still left me unsatisfied. I agree with you on most everything else, though. Perfect story, perfect characters, perfect music... I just disagree on the ending. |
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Zarkonis said: Reread "P.S. don't blame me if some of my speculations aren't accurate, I only watched the raw episode." Then cut the condescension from a post speculating something if you aren't going to discuss it. |
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