| Hentai,extreme violence,yaoi,lame story |
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| Are the lot of you claiming to be morally offended by low ratings, shitty art, high school settings and characters, weak protagonists, ugly characters and romance or did you just fail to read the damn OP? |
| I don't understand this topic. It's like asking people what genre they can't stand watching. I think that's why this topic's getting a lot of hentai and yaoi. |
| There are plenty of anime that have events I find distasteful, but I can't say I've watched anything that makes me uncomfortable. For me anime, does not look enough like real life for me to have any moral objection. CGI certainly can come close, but it's always in my mind that it's not real, so there is not any reason for it to bother me. |
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phnsr said: Are the lot of you claiming to be morally offended by low ratings, shitty art, high school settings and characters, weak protagonists, ugly characters and romance or did you just fail to read the damn OP? Yes. It is a crime for such a creative medium as animation to be wasted on boring things. |
| I don't mind Hentai as long as it is delivered in small doses. Alot of the hentai animes out there are really nasty. I hate Yaoi. |
| I'm not crazy about stuff that stereotypes of victimizes women (or gender, religion, or race) but I will watch most anything so long as it is relevant to the story, but there has to be a story so that lets out most hentai. Gratuitous violence gets boring. |
lisnoireMar 4, 2012 12:59 PM
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Anime_Name said: Oh look. People will draw the line at hentai. That's like saying you'll watch all kinds of movies but not pornos. Obvious answer is obvious. Well not everyone likes seeing 2 animated characters going at it. Plus what a weird connection you made there, its not like animations would turn me on. |
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OriginANIME said: --For me, it isn't any kind of moral judgement. For some reason, I actually like hentai better than live action porn. The fact is that I don't find much of it that I care to watch. Nothing against hot sex. I just like a little story and a little romance or at least "chemistry" along with it.Anime_Name said: Oh look. People will draw the line at hentai. That's like saying you'll watch all kinds of movies but not pornos. Obvious answer is obvious. Well not everyone likes seeing 2 animated characters going at it. Plus what a weird connection you made there, its not like animations would turn me on. |
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lisnoire said: OriginANIME said: --For me, it isn't any kind of moral judgement. For some reason, I actually like hentai better than live action porn. The fact is that I don't find much of it that I care to watch. Nothing against hot sex. I just like a little story and a little romance or at least "chemistry" along with it.Anime_Name said: Oh look. People will draw the line at hentai. That's like saying you'll watch all kinds of movies but not pornos. Obvious answer is obvious. Well not everyone likes seeing 2 animated characters going at it. Plus what a weird connection you made there, its not like animations would turn me on. Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "who the fk would like hentai more than porn!?", in fact, I know a lot of people who enjoy hentai over porn due to exactly what you stated. Its understandable, I just don't agree with it. Though hentai tends to have "storyline" which is in fact better than porn. xD Sorry if what I said sounded bad. =/ |
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OriginANIME said: --Actually, what I was getting at (badly) is that generally neither hentai or porn offer much in the way of story, romance, or chemistry. :-) Generally speaking, men are visually stimulated and women need a little mental stimulation as well. That's why women are so often turned off by porn be it animated or live.lisnoire said: OriginANIME said: --For me, it isn't any kind of moral judgement. For some reason, I actually like hentai better than live action porn. The fact is that I don't find much of it that I care to watch. Nothing against hot sex. I just like a little story and a little romance or at least "chemistry" along with it.Anime_Name said: Oh look. People will draw the line at hentai. That's like saying you'll watch all kinds of movies but not pornos. Obvious answer is obvious. Well not everyone likes seeing 2 animated characters going at it. Plus what a weird connection you made there, its not like animations would turn me on. Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "who the fk would like hentai more than porn!?", in fact, I know a lot of people who enjoy hentai over porn due to exactly what you stated. Its understandable, I just don't agree with it. Though hentai tends to have "storyline" which is in fact better than porn. xD Sorry if what I said sounded bad. =/ |
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| I like how this thread turned into a porn / hentai thread. YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK!!! lol So to refer back to the original question more... If the female characters are too cutesy, I usually skip right over that shit. It also makes me uncomfortable when there's any sort of fan service regarding girls that are clearly 12 years old lol (Nisemonogatari is currently on the verge of being dropped, but the story is still interesting enough so i'm bearing through it -__-) Other than that, it's very hard to say what's good or not. Sometimes the most random things would bother me enough that I will not watch something. |
Accolades said: How the fuck is that sexist? Would it be sexist if they said "Oh hey he can fix stuff, he'd make a good husband"? Feminist logic. If women are bad at something, it is actually a good thing because they think that they're not enforcing a gender stereotype that way. It's the perfect plan: you don't need to be able to do anything, yet you're always right. Self-esteem issues, mostly. In reality of course, it is to each his/her own, but that is too much for a feminist mind to understand. |
Accolades said: Beedlebud said: I've seen fanservice being coupled as sexism, but no. I don't think it is (but I'm biased XD). Only stuff like "Oh hey she can cook, she'd make a good wife" really grinds my gears in anime. How the fuck is that sexist? Would it be sexist if they said "Oh hey he can fix stuff, he'd make a good husband"? It is sexist because it is (IMO) something that drags us back to the 1950s where wives did simply nothing but cook and clean and do housework. It is made out to be as if this is the only thing men would want in a woman. So they don't have to. In reality, I believe marriage is something where both spouses equally share the burden. And your other comment, Yes. But when do you ever see that in anime? Feminist logic. If women are bad at something, it is actually a good thing because they think that they're not enforcing a gender stereotype that way. It's the perfect plan: you don't need to be able to do anything, yet you're always right. Self-esteem issues, mostly. In reality of course, it is to each his/her own, but that is too much for a feminist mind to understand. Wrong. |
BeedlebudMar 4, 2012 2:33 PM
Beedlebud said: Yes. But when do you ever see that in anime? That is irrelevant. The question is how is that a sexist thing? That someone is good at cooking or fixing things? |
mecharobot said: Beedlebud said: Yes. But when do you ever see that in anime? That is irrelevant. The question is how is that a sexist thing? That someone is good at cooking or fixing things? You're missing my point. When you say it like that OF COURSE it's not sexist. But put that in context. |
| i can't watch horror anime because i get too freaked out...aside from that i don't really like a lot of fanservice (yet for some reason i like nisemonogatari, aside from the toothbrushing scene...) or ecchi stuff. i also wouldn't watch something with animation i dislike or a plot/characters i'm not interested in, but that can vary... :> |
| Seeing as i read (and love) lots and lots of guro I don't think I have a line. I don't just mean the well known and gory Mai-chan's Daily Life either, I mean the really weird and grungy stuff. |
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OriginANIME said: lisnoire said: OriginANIME said: --For me, it isn't any kind of moral judgement. For some reason, I actually like hentai better than live action porn. The fact is that I don't find much of it that I care to watch. Nothing against hot sex. I just like a little story and a little romance or at least "chemistry" along with it.Well not everyone likes seeing 2 animated characters going at it. Plus what a weird connection you made there, its not like animations would turn me on. Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying "who the fk would like hentai more than porn!?", in fact, I know a lot of people who enjoy hentai over porn due to exactly what you stated. Its understandable, I just don't agree with it. Though hentai tends to have "storyline" which is in fact better than porn. xD Sorry if what I said sounded bad. =/ You should check out H-manga, it's debatably preferable. H-anime ≠ H-manga. In most all cases, hentai animation sucks hairy balls. H-manga on the other hand often has a storyline equivalent to an average manga. |
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| anything with racism, homophobia, xenophobia in general. you dont see it too much in anime besides maybe a slightly racist stereotype, but still anything involved with a weird fetish (that i dont have) besides that, anything really |
Accolades said: Beedlebud said: I've seen fanservice being coupled as sexism, but no. I don't think it is (but I'm biased XD). Only stuff like "Oh hey she can cook, she'd make a good wife" really grinds my gears in anime. How the fuck is that sexist? Would it be sexist if they said "Oh hey he can fix stuff, he'd make a good husband"? Technically...yes. Although, I don't know any man who would be offended by being accused of being a good handyman. In fact, it's the opposite - most men take it as a compliment. Speaking of sexism, although there is no denying there is a lot of sexism against women in anime, there is also a lot of sexism against men. How often do you see male characters getting the shit beat out of them over the tiniest "transgression" such as seeing a girl naked by accident or not being a mind reader and not realizing that a girl likes him. There are also plenty of shows where men are portrayed as stupider than women or where all the men are perverts who can't keep it in their pants - again overblown stereotypes. That's where I draw the line - when I see male characters constantly being victims of slapstick violence or when I see them being just grossly incompetent, idiotic or perverted - which happens way more often nowadays. |
| I usually drop an anime, if it has a flat-chested tsundere voiced by Kugimiya Rie :) I also lost my patience with the endless shounen series. Finally, I get pretty pissed with series with pointless bloodshed and brutallity. |
Technically...yes. Although, I don't know any man who would be offended by being accused of being a good handyman. In fact, it's the opposite - most men take it as a compliment. Speaking of sexism, although there is no denying there is a lot of sexism against women in anime, there is also a lot of sexism against men. How often do you see male characters getting the shit beat out of them over the tiniest "transgression" such as seeing a girl naked by accident or not being a mind reader and not realizing that a girl likes him. There are also plenty of shows where men are portrayed as stupider than women or where all the men are perverts who can't keep it in their pants - again overblown stereotypes. I agree, and this bothers me as well.... Since most ecchi anime are made by males, why do they have this happen so often? It seems really odd? |
Beedlebud said: I agree, and this bothers me as well.... Since most ecchi anime are made by males, why do they have this happen so often? It seems really odd? It's because most male otaku are screwy in the head. They like to think that even if a girl will beat the shit out of them or treat them like shit that she will still love him. It's all part of the tsundere characterization. It's honestly pretty pathetic. |
FatherAndersonMar 5, 2012 1:26 PM
| Ecchi anime - Like really ecchi aka Seikon no Qwaser -.- Mahou shoujo Childish anime in Hentai I think it would be Netorare - I hate that genre but sometimes I watch it without realizing :P |
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FatherAnderson said: Beedlebud said: I agree, and this bothers me as well.... Since most ecchi anime are made by males, why do they have this happen so often? It seems really odd? It's because most male otaku are screwy in the head. They like to think that even if a girl will beat the shit out of them or treat them like shit that she will still love him. It's all part of the tsundere characterization. It's honestly pretty pathetic. Perfect answer. |
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| I will watch practically anything because I'm "open-minded", herp derp. I draw the line when an anime becomes stupidly a Cliché/Tsundere-Loli Ecchi/ OverDone/ Holes-In Plot/ No Story/ Fanservice circle-jerk piece of shit. For example; I drew the line halfway through Shakugan no Shana episode 1. |
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valdemort said: i can't watch horror anime because i get too freaked out...aside from that i don't really like a lot of fanservice (yet for some reason i like nisemonogatari, aside from the toothbrushing scene...) or ecchi stuff. i also wouldn't watch something with animation i dislike or a plot/characters i'm not interested in, but that can vary... :> Yea I didn't like that toothbrush scene in nisemonogatari but i'm still watching it |
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| If it's earth-shatteringly boring, then I'll quit. Same thing with overly dark stuff. |
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| Blood related incest is a sorta line for me, they're two exceptions, one is oreimo because kirino is just too cute to pass up and certain hentai because i fapped to things worst than incest. |
AddictofAnime said: valdemort said: i can't watch horror anime because i get too freaked out...aside from that i don't really like a lot of fanservice (yet for some reason i like nisemonogatari, aside from the toothbrushing scene...) or ecchi stuff. i also wouldn't watch something with animation i dislike or a plot/characters i'm not interested in, but that can vary... :> Yea I didn't like that toothbrush scene in nisemonogatari but i'm still watching it What? I loove that scene haha |
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Adair said: Basically what the topic title says. At what point would you stop watching a series or refuse to watch a series based on certain elements that not only question your morals, but also just flat out make you feel uncomfortable? For me, it would be extreme, extreme violence, such as guts spilling out, limbs being chopped off, organs being ripped out, etc. I would also not watch anything that shows someone deriving sexual pleasure from extreme mutilation and abuse, such as guro or ryona (girl getting beat up). I'm also not a fan of parent-child incest. I'm all for open-mindedness and creativity, and I'm certainly not against people who create/enjoy anime with those above themes, but I personally just cannot sit through them. I kind of envy people who can, though, you must either have a very high tolerance for graphic themes or are just kind of morally ambiguous. (In a good way?) :D So...where would you draw the line? I'm with you on all of those, although if the violence is done tastefully I can handle it. I also can't stand glorified mutilation of small children (Elfin Lied, Higurashi). I mean, kids are allowed to die, but when you act like it's justified or cool or something... I dunno, I'm not sure how anyone can think that's okay. That should get the same sort of treatment as pedophilia, to me. Which reminds me- Lolicon. And no I'm not referring to hentai as I don't watch it. Like... Cardcaptor Sakura. I LOVE this series, don't get me wrong, but... Is it just me, or do the Japanese glorify this sort of thing a little more than they should? Same goes for sibling incest. I'm not a huge fan of Yaoi, but if it's a small part of a show like between two side characters, that's fine. I just think it's usually poorly done. I also have very little tollerance for ridiculous amounts of panty shots and things that are super unnecessarily ecchi. I don't mind nudity at all, just... Too much ecchi gets really annoying. I also won't watch subbed shows where all of the humor has to be explained to me on the top of the screen, like fansubs do. I AM American, this is my culture, so I'm not going to be able to enjoy a lot of purely Japanese humor. I'm not saying that humor is a bad thing, I'm just saying it takes away from a show for me personally if I can't understand the humor without it being explained. I am generally not a harem fan either. |
I'm with you on all of those, although if the violence is done tastefully I can handle it. I also can't stand glorified mutilation of small children (Elfin Lied, Higurashi). I mean, kids are allowed to die, but when you act like it's justified or cool or something... I dunno, I'm not sure how anyone can think that's okay. That should get the same sort of treatment as pedophilia, to me. When named characters die in stories isn't always justified by either the good guys or bad guys for some reason? Plus when characters in stories make the ultimate sacrifice it makes glorifies it too. Personally I am tired of Western games and shows that act like children are sacred cows that should never come to harm. Having access to a form of media that isn't so tight-assed has been a relief for me. |
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| Hentai and ecchi are generally no go for me. I say that but I am watching one ecchi right now lol. My views on that type of stuff seem to change to more open, when I first started to watch anime I was pretty close minded to alot of the types, Like super violent. |
Mow123Mar 7, 2012 1:20 AM
| When it's shit, generally. |
| i dont really have any guidelines as far as watching anime. i actually like the ecchi ones since i find humor in alot of it. hentai aint horrible cuz there are civil ones that aren't just over the top disgusting (im looking at u bible black...). i cant say that i hate the extremely long animes cuz i love fairy tail. but i have given one piece and bleach a chance. but i just couldnt get into them. i like the general idea of OP and bleach but just not something i could get into. inuyasha falls into that category. a big part of it are the characters. if i cant enjoy the characters, i cant really enjoy the show. i mean plot and story come into play too but if the characters cant play out or anything, im not gonna enjoy it. |
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Anime_Name said: When named characters die in stories isn't always justified by either the good guys or bad guys for some reason? Plus when characters in stories make the ultimate sacrifice it makes glorifies it too. Personally I am tired of Western games and shows that act like children are sacred cows that should never come to harm. Having access to a form of media that isn't so tight-assed has been a relief for me. i agree with u 100%. i mean it seems to be a little more harsh when bad things happen to children but thats life. it happens every day. so i guess i dont understand why it's so offensive when depicted in media. it doesn't bother me. its not that im a heartless, soulless bastard but i just dont get offended or turned off by something that shows harm coming to kids cuz in reality it happens. it wont change. |
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| Anime_Name and Turmoin- You guys seem to be confused. I said GLORIFIED. Meaning... Well, let's take Elfin Lied for example. Higurashi, of course, is... Well it's baisically kawaii-des SAW. Torture porn. Except Higurashi has small children. I'm not against showing violence towards children. I watch Law and Order: SVU. Yeah, that stuff is horrible, but they are displaying it in a way that makes it clear that this is horrible and unjustified. I'm against showing violence toward children in a way that little animu fans think it's cool or justified, ESPECIALLY in the case of Higurashi. I see so many fan-artz on DA of Higurashi-inspired things with kids who are probably under 14 saying "I drew this b/c this is how i feel rite now i hate my best friend i want to kill her Higurashi style'. I... WHAT? No. There is NO REASON for this. And Anime_Name, your view on children disturbs me. Children ARE sacred. They're young, their brains are not fully developed, and they need an amount of protection. Are you saying you think Lolicon is okay too? Is NAMBLA suddenly a justifiable organization? |
AmberlehMar 6, 2012 8:22 AM
| I don't, my mind is as open as the sky :) |
| I don't draw any line. In fact, I love to cross them. |
Adair said: So...where would you draw the line? No homosexual,tranny, loli, male on female rape,blood related incest, gender bender,anything similar to pokemon,Yugioh, or Digimon stuff as the main theme. |
jal90 said: I don't draw any line. In fact, I love to cross them. My thoughts exactly. I will usually revel in watching something unexpectantly different from the norm. Imagine my suprise reading Ichi the Killer when at the time I've been watching rom/coms and tame action shounen. ......ok, Yaoi you got me, but that's literally the only thing that bothers me. |
| What do you think you're piloting? Great Mazinger? Dangaioh? For Pete's sake, this isn't some robot cartoon whose main character is an autistic kid or some punk. - Kiichi Goto, Mobile Police Patlabor |
| ^ Well, the thing is, I have drawn lines before, but in the end I get interested. Watched recently my first hentai, was it that bad? No, actually it was interesting in some way; so I expect the same to happen in other cases. |
Amberleh said: Anime_Name and Turmoin- You guys seem to be confused. I said GLORIFIED. Meaning... Well, let's take Elfin Lied for example. LOL don't ever watch the movie Them or Jack Ketchum's The Girl Next Door...maybe even Willy Wonky and the Chocolate Factory will be too much for you. Each tries to justify what happens in the story in a way that doesn't seem like a string of random events. Some of the justifications are reasonable, some of them are insane and disturbing but either way the land of make-believe isn't just used to tell stories of morally upstanding individuals with rainbows and unicorns flying around. Higurashi, of course, is... Well it's baisically kawaii-des SAW. Torture porn. Except Higurashi has small children. How is what Higurashi making torture seem cute? A 25 year old soldier on a torture rack in pain is disturbing and meant to illicit bad reactions from viewers. Replacing that soldier with a 15 year old student doesn't make it any more cute and it was far from torture porn. The kids in Higurashi didn't run around wanting to be put through torture. Those morbid occurrences in Higurashi represented the loop they were trying to escape from. I'm not against showing violence towards children. I watch Law and Order: SVU. Yeah, that stuff is horrible, but they are displaying it in a way that makes it clear that this is horrible and unjustified. I'm against showing violence toward children in a way that little animu fans think it's cool or justified, ESPECIALLY in the case of Higurashi. I see so many fan-artz on DA of Higurashi-inspired things with kids who are probably under 14 saying "I drew this b/c this is how i feel rite now i hate my best friend i want to kill her Higurashi style'. I... WHAT? No. There is NO REASON for this. Right Law and Order is covering crimes from mostly the perspective of the police. Years before SVU most of the cast were in a HBO show call OZ that was centered around prisoners where lots immoral things were justified and glorified because of the setting of the show. Being make-believe made it acceptable to watch because viewers are smart enough to separate reality from fiction. People like yourself lack that ability in these sort of conversations. And Anime_Name, your view on children disturbs me. Children ARE sacred. They're young, their brains are not fully developed, and they need an amount of protection. Are you saying you think Lolicon is okay too? Is NAMBLA suddenly a justifiable organization? Real children are sacred. Virtual children are not. If it's okay to kill FBI agents in GTA then lolicon is okay in anime/manga. |
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Amberleh said: Anime_Name and Turmoin- You guys seem to be confused. I said GLORIFIED. Meaning... Well, let's take Elfin Lied for example. Higurashi, of course, is... Well it's baisically kawaii-des SAW. Torture porn. Except Higurashi has small children. I'm not against showing violence towards children. I watch Law and Order: SVU. Yeah, that stuff is horrible, but they are displaying it in a way that makes it clear that this is horrible and unjustified. I'm against showing violence toward children in a way that little animu fans think it's cool or justified, ESPECIALLY in the case of Higurashi. I see so many fan-artz on DA of Higurashi-inspired things with kids who are probably under 14 saying "I drew this b/c this is how i feel rite now i hate my best friend i want to kill her Higurashi style'. I... WHAT? No. There is NO REASON for this. And Anime_Name, your view on children disturbs me. Children ARE sacred. They're young, their brains are not fully developed, and they need an amount of protection. Are you saying you think Lolicon is okay too? Is NAMBLA suddenly a justifiable organization? Fan art has nothing to do with anything... if it isn't fan art of higurashi they will just find something else that is violent, hell maybe they will make the next higurashi instead of drawing it. There are different types of fans, some like it for the mystery some like it for just the hyper violence some like it for both. I am sure the people who like gore rewind those part in higurashi while the ones who don't like it simply avert their eyes or skip pass it. SAW to my knowledge is shit, no mystery no meaning just blood. I like how you finished high school of the dead I couldn't finish that one too much crap in it. Not enough story or what not. I am sure you'll say its different cause it has no kids in it or whatever. but that doesn't mean kids don't have access to it. What do I know tho I just a guy with a bloody gun. btw "higurashi kira is the worst anime ever made" (from higurashi fan) |
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