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Dec 1, 2011 5:47 PM
#51
Oh wow. I find it so cute that: A) They claim that "there is a little market" for anime in Eu and America. And then put a pricetag that's insane. B) blame pirates for lost sales. Well honestly. What would you chooce, pirate for 0,50$ (ish) or buy it for 1000 times as much (Yes, thats right. ONETHOUSANDFUCKINGDOLLARS!). The day people stop to but shit for this amount of cash is the day we will start to se a anime for a better price. As of now, Manga has a way higher value /Drunk ramble |
Dec 1, 2011 5:49 PM
#52
Dec 1, 2011 5:59 PM
#53
fertygo said: Or sacrifice your upgrade plan for skyrim + gaming cost for quarter like certain people does... T___________T I just upgraded my PC last week for modern games too. Maybe I shouldn't have sprung for the i7-3930k and went with a 2600k instead. Oh well...I guess I'll see if I have the cash then. But I doubt it...next up is tires and brakes which would get me 5 box sets of Fate/Zero by itself. |
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Dec 1, 2011 6:34 PM
#54
Exkalamity said: You just don't get it, right? The point is, why bothering to buy a ticket to see a concert of your favourite singer when you actually already have the music and can listen to it whenever and wherever you want? Kikimaru said: Meanwhile, on the Internet, 95% of viewers will download MKV rips. Except UTW's subs are fabulously gorgeous. Shelling out $300+ for inferior quality translations =/. Morals and ethics be damned; that's just bad business. They are selling it to the ones who want to buy but not the ones who only want to have but don't want to pay. |
Dec 1, 2011 7:35 PM
#55
99 out of 100 people will be scared with that price. $500. ^And they say anime is dying D: game8910 said: They have different currency their, which means they look differently at money. Just like how they just spend their allowance in Coke Cans while I settle with Coke 8oz bottles. Got it?^ FUCKING THIS! You guys wish to own the BDs at the same time as the japanese with the same amount of extras and everything...then you will pay the same price they have to pay for pretty much every anime that is ever released over there. An individual BD volume in japan is approx $60 and more, the price for anime is pretty damn high but I guess I have a job for that reason... |
CashdaxDec 1, 2011 7:42 PM
Dec 1, 2011 7:57 PM
#56
jmal said: err no. The left 1 out of 100 will have 50/50 chance to buy or not to buy the merchandise.Cashdaxxx said: 99 out of 100 people will be scared with that price. But if 1 in 100 buys it, you'll probably do well at that price. That's the business model. I don't think it's perfect, but it works. |
Dec 1, 2011 8:48 PM
#57
jmal said: Why so serious? ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌Cashdaxxx said: jmal said: err no. The left 1 out of 100 will have 50/50 chance to buy or not to buy the merchandise.But if 1 in 100 buys it, you'll probably do well at that price. That's the business model. I don't think it's perfect, but it works. Everyone has a 50/50 chance to buy anything (yes or no) you're defining it in such simplistic terms. And if we want to do "1 in 100" "50/50" hyper-generalized pseudo-statistics, let's take it a step further and admit that ~97 of those 99 people refuse to pay any price and never intended to buy their anime in the first place. Aniplex has no interest in selling this release to the average casual fan who wants to pay $0-50 for an entire cour of anime and not a penny more. They want to sell it to a couple hundred hardcore collectors. So claiming they're making a mistake based on this price not satisfying a group they never considered in the first place is shouting into the wind. I'd never belittle someone for not being willing or able to pay such high prices, but it'd also be nice if such people realized Aniplex isn't selling it to you. Just go watch the streams or download the fansubs and you won't even need to think about it. But you're absolutely not getting a day-and-date JP-mirroring BD release loaded with extras for less than what the Japanese pay. It is just not going to happen. Let's take this as an example, the 99 people read this thread, thought that they will never buy the BD's(because of the price). The 1in100 guy now has the choice of buying it or not(let's assume that he's on a pre-ordering site, and s/he has the money). Basically just what you said. Same as on a food stand, the 99 would read the price and pass while the 1in100 guy stays there and ponder. EDIT: what part did I say about the mispriced merchandise? I think you're talking to the wrong guy. |
CashdaxDec 1, 2011 8:52 PM
Dec 1, 2011 8:52 PM
#58
For that amount of cash, I certainly hope Saber, Irisviel and Sola Ui come out of the screen and perform sexual favors for the buyers. Otherwise, totally not worth it. Seriously, though, I get all the reasons for the pricing, but if an affordable set isn't released a couple of years down the road, that really sucks for people who do want to own a physical copy and just simply cannot pay this outrageous amount. |
Dec 1, 2011 9:13 PM
#60
Dec 1, 2011 9:34 PM
#61
I'm glad I never got into the Fate series. (I couldn't really finish F/SN because of Shiro) That price is pretty expensive, but it's to be expected considering it gets out the same day as the Japanese one. So other than that, it's a good deal if you're an importer because it's less of a hassle. Fans who are buying this: enjoy your F/Z Blu-ray Box~! :D |
Dec 1, 2011 10:09 PM
#62
Kikimaru said: Meanwhile, on the Internet, 95% of viewers will download MKV rips. in soviet russia, MKV rips download viewers |
Dec 1, 2011 10:13 PM
#63
Jeez...shit's getting expensive... I swear, everytime one of these release notices for some anime comes up, the prices go higher and higher. -.-V |
Dec 1, 2011 10:58 PM
#64
That's more than the Blu-Ray machine itself...or even a PS3. What. |
Dec 1, 2011 11:26 PM
#65
When I first saw the thread title, I started to jump with joy. When I read that the box set will include the extras, I started to scream, "Hallelujah! I am so buying this!" Then, I saw the price and went.... :o I would buy it but... seriously?! This is more expensive than buying a new gaming system (and it's not even the whole series)... hell, even my laptop is cheaper than this! WTF, seriously? I generally consider myself to be a huge supporter of the anime industry, but with prices this high in this economy for a luxury good, then you guys can forget it. Go back to marketing class, please. |
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Dec 1, 2011 11:40 PM
#66
With that kind of price for an import, only anime fans that have a huge income will most likely to buy this. As much as I predicted that Aniplex of America is licensing and distributing Fate/Zero but I did not expect them to do an import like they did with Kara no Kyoukai. I would love to buy it but it's beyond expensive for a 13-episode series plus the extra stuff for a Blu-ray. Too bad I don't have a blu-ray player. :P I was hoping for an English Dub for this series since Fate/stay night has been out in North America a few years ago but I guess it's too soon for an english dub. |
animellyDec 1, 2011 11:50 PM
Dec 2, 2011 12:44 AM
#67
lol so many ignorant... Well this is MAL. windy said: Its does, booklets n stuff is even translated.so does this come with everything the japanese box comes with? too lazy to check. if it does i suppose i'll have to pick it up. extras are what make buying anime so fun for me, so if this doesn't have everything i'd just import. |
Dec 2, 2011 2:02 AM
#68
Do I want it? Yes. Am I glad that shit actually is being sold state side? Yes. Buying something for half a grand that shouldn't be more than $2-300 (for 13 episodes and a few bonus')? Unfortunately not. |
IZEROIIDec 2, 2011 2:09 AM
Dec 2, 2011 2:59 AM
#69
Seeing as how it worked for Kara no Kyoukai, Aniplex is probably expecting the same trick to work a second time for Fate/Zero. (And I won't in the least bit be surprised if it does sell out like KnK). Anyway, this is one show off my wishlist. I'll keep my fingers crossed for a possible dub in the future, improbable as that may be... |
Dec 2, 2011 3:28 AM
#70
fertygo said: lol so many ignorant... Well this is MAL. They werent paying attention for 1/54000th of a second, obviously. Unfortunately I can't afford it. I could get an apartment and pay several bills with that amount. Definitely something I can live without. .... I'm sorry Rider, Lancer. ;A; |
Dec 2, 2011 5:13 AM
#71
Dec 2, 2011 5:42 AM
#72
Siva said: I think some people never heard of something like this "Kara no Kyoukai Blu-ray Box Sold Out in the US" and the item itself costs about 1000$. LOL.. no. The KnK box is around this one prices, n only available for 300 pcs or similar. This one will have very limited stock like those KnK box I assume, which is why many retarded and ignorant post on this thread (and maybe in other site like ANN) is disgusting. |
Dec 2, 2011 10:16 AM
#73
I'm not even paying that much for Madoka Limited Edition... |
Dec 2, 2011 2:27 PM
#74
jmal said: guyklc said: Go back to marketing class, please. Like this person. Aniplex knows exactly what they're doing. They don't need to go back to marketing class because they weren't trying to sell it to you in the first place. Maybe you should attend some marketing classes and brush up on the idea of target markets. Maybe you should learn what price discrimination is. Just because such high prices can get them by in Japan doesn't mean they can get by with the American market. How else do you explain why an entire series of anime in the US costs less than TWO episodes of the same series in Japan? Let me remind you that when Lucky Star was brought to America (and that show has a HUGE fanbase), the limited edition sold for like $100 each (I think, been awhile so don't remember exact amount), it FLOPPED big time. American anime fans are NOT willing to pay as much as their Japanese counterparts. Also, they're not targeting me, are you sure? Do you know how big of an anime fan I am? Do you know how much anime merchandises I buy imported from Japan? No? Then stop acting like a pretentious asshole as if you know me. jmal said: I bet anything this eventually sells out however many they planned to sell (a couple hundred, probably). The more they do this, the more they build up a customer base who is used to it and willing to pay. It'll be small, but the customer base in Japan is small too. There are definitely people out there who are curious about importing, but who don't want to navigate foreign websites and international shipping. That was me for a while, before I jumped in full-tilt and am now import-only. Those are the people Aniplex is after... and they don't need to be numerous. The anime supporters here in America is very likely to be much smaller than the amount of anime supporters in Japan. Anime may be a niche market in both countries, but it definitely has a bigger market in Japan. In other words, anime supporters in America are a very small minority in an already very small niche market, and Aniplex's decisions are alienating many of them (myself and many others here included). Not a clever marketing plan. But that's fine. Let's wait and see how this will turn out. |
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Dec 2, 2011 2:33 PM
#75
Dec 2, 2011 8:44 PM
#76
Well if you look at how the price of movies, be they VHS, DVDs, or Blu-rays, have stayed at a pretty constant rate; if you were to add 15 years of inflation that should seem like a reasonable price. But downloading them and storing stuff on a external is so convenient. |
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Dec 3, 2011 4:30 AM
#77
jmal said: Cashdaxxx said: EDIT: what part did I say about the mispriced merchandise? I think you're talking to the wrong guy. It's a general "you", as in the people complaining here when they know they were never going to buy it anyway. What I'm talking about is that Aniplex still sells anime especially in America, where anime is frequently* downloaded rather than bought(Distance Issues). Which takes me to the conclusion that anime still sells ignoring the high price so therefore NOT DEAD. Seriously I never complained, you can reread my posts if you want. And stop quoting someone's post if you are talking to the "GENERAL YOU". * - That's what I've observed. |
Dec 3, 2011 7:14 AM
#79
Dec 3, 2011 7:47 AM
#80
This will only attract importers and reverse importers, no one else will pay those prices. No wonder Aniplex did what they did with Sacred Seven and added subs to their BDs, they only want the western and SE Asian importers along with otaku in Japan to buy their goods and jack up the price to do so. |
Dec 4, 2011 9:49 PM
#82
Dec 5, 2011 6:35 PM
#83
What the actual hell man?! Who charges that much for a box set? >:O |
Dec 5, 2011 7:26 PM
#84
soulless4now said: What the actual hell man?! Who charges that much for a box set? >:O Japan does this all the time. It would have been better if Aniplex dubbed it, but after seeing that they are charging $40~$50 for 4 episodes of Madoka its still ridiculous pricing. |
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Dec 8, 2011 2:55 AM
#85
notsureifsrs said: I am the bone of my wallet Anime is my body and manga is my blood I have bought over a thousand titles Unaware of loss, Nor aware of gain Withstood pain to purchase BDs, waiting for one’s arrival I have no regrets. This is the only path My whole life was unlimited pricing works hahha |
Dec 8, 2011 5:55 AM
#86
And it will still sell out. |
Dec 16, 2011 6:09 AM
#87
Dec 23, 2011 4:16 AM
#88
Well, we complain about the big price tag but Kara no Kyoukai box-set sold out in a pretty short amount time given it was priced at $400. EDIT: Shit, obviously it was already mentioned. |
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Dec 28, 2011 3:00 PM
#89
Wait a year, you will be able to purchase in a re-sale shop for $2.50. |
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Dec 28, 2011 6:28 PM
#90
Antalk said: Wait 50 years, you will be able to purchase in a re-sale shop for $2.50. fix'd |
Dec 30, 2011 6:37 PM
#91
Dec 30, 2011 6:54 PM
#92
Z-flame said: Antalk said: Wait 50 years, you will be able to purchase in a re-sale shop for $2.50. fix'd Wouldn't it be more than it is now since it would be OOP? So yeah just keep thinking that it might come true if you wish hard enough. |
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Jan 16, 2012 9:06 AM
#95
Votkrath said: Just preordered two sets. ^_^ Must be nice to have $800 dollars lying around. *is poor* |
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Jan 16, 2012 5:19 PM
#96
Jan 16, 2012 5:21 PM
#97
Wayyy too much, if they wanted to actually make any sell make it lower..... As illegals downloads are avaliable and is ruining the industry |
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Feb 19, 2012 2:35 PM
#99
GodlyKyon said: its cheap for R1 standard, I know people like jmal rejoice they don't need to spend 600$ or sumthing for 6 vol R1 BDsWayyy too much, if they wanted to actually make any sell make it lower..... As illegals downloads are avaliable and is ruining the industry its real possibility at that time. red_meat said: Its import release....this is some sort of sick joke, right? |
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