| I hate the whole idea of being in the military honestly. If I wanted to be in the military I would already be in it now (22 now). I would hate the culture of conformity, unquestioning obedience, and lack of freedom. I live in the U.S. and among other things, I don't agree with our military's actions in various countries right now and I'm against the whole "Policing the world" mentality the country seems to have these days in terms of deploying its army to fight in conflicts too easily. If there was a draft, I'd try to find a way around it, probably by going to another country if I could. The only way I would actually allow myself to be drafted is if there is a direct threat to the U.S.A. from invaders then yes I would go to protect my family and friends. |
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| I'd pull a Shinji. Fuck a war I don't care about, wars don't solve anything, they just give temporary advantages to the victor. |
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Red_Keys said: Fun Fact: Males were given the vote because of their requirement to serve their government. It was literally the price they had to pay: dedicate their lives to their country, and only then would they be able to vote for their country. Females were given the vote because they asked for it. And do not have to serve their country's military (males still do). But male privilege, amirite? OnT: Fight in the war I guess. What else does one do when drafted? I'd probably die. Or, since I most likely don't measure up to whatever military requirements there are, I'd be given some non-combat position. I guess that all depends on how desperate the situation is. With our technological advancement though, I don't really see another WW1 happening. It's not like wars are fought in trenches any more. Well, in the UK the right to vote used to be directly linked to property, not the obligation to serve the governement. And in France it relied on a suffrage based on a tax qualification up until the mid XIXth century. Besides that, it's not like the draft is unanimously supported, so... Anyway back OT : I wouldn't want to fight for my country (or any country for that matter), as I have no notion of pratriotic love whatsoever. But I would probably just go along and try my best to ace all my tests and hope for a secure position when no actual fighting is required. |
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| I would go if it was a war worth it, if its one that aligns with my own morale code or something to that affect... But I don't see high casualties in this age nor do I think there would be alot of people seeing action in the way past wars were fought, serving in the time of war seems most likely to happen. |
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| Move to a different country if I could. |
| Fight the war like the man I am. Then when (if?) I get home, I'd start a revolution and decapitate whoever made me go to war in the first place. Cuz war sucks Cue Platoon Music |
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| My original country does have drafts... I am ditching it right now by being a US citizen. But if the United States were to ever call me in, I'd join in a heartbeat. Because I know that I am fighting for FREEDOM! 'MURICA! (just kidding, btw. I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably join and see if I can do something that doesn't require me on the front lines) |
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| Depends who we're fighting and whether they're a threat to my people. Perhaps it'd be a good excuse to get rid of some pent-up aggression, start collecting scalps or something idk. |
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| Camp and Hardscope. I mean, Someone like me would get picked on by the adults and start pushing me to the front lines. I'd go for any job that involves jets. |
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| It depends on the war.If it was was a war our government deliberately pulled us into like sending a supply ship to one of the sides in a conflict to get bombed like in WWI or provking a county into attacking us by cutting off trade during a time of war then I am refusing the draft. If its one of those we got to spread democracy and stop a particular ideology from spreading like Vietnam was then I am refusing the draft. If its to do defend another country then I am refusing the draft. The only was I would accept a draft is if we are being attacked on US soil and we did nothing to provoke such an attack.. |
| well i would like to fight but i am pretty sure it wont be some glorious battle it would be another pointless war started by someone with twisted mind |
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| If I ever got drafted, I'd probably get kicked out shortly into boot camp for the sleeping disorder :P Even if they relaxed it enough for me to get through, I'd never get sent to the front lines for the same reason (would YOU want a narcoleptic in your platoon?). That being said, even if it came down to just assisting with analysis and planning, I would participate to the best of my abilities if allowed. |
| Canada is nice. LOL but seriously. would probably just go with the flow. |
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| Fight. As much as I don't want to, I have to answer the call of duty when my country needs me. For a shitty reason or a good reason, I see it's my obligation to do so. |
BryanBossling said: Depends who we're fighting and whether they're a threat to my people. Perhaps it'd be a good excuse to get rid of some pent-up aggression, start collecting scalps or something idk. In modern warfare doing something like that would land you in hot water, even if it was a part in completing your objectives. :V http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1296136/As-Gurkha-disciplined-beheading-Taliban-Thank-God-side.html |
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| They'd regret trying to draft me. |
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Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: |
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dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. |
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Nicole said: dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. I'm sure there's nothing military men are afraid more than a 20 page lecture on the evils of War by Nicole! D: |
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dankickyou said: Nicole said: dankickyou said: Nicole said: They'd regret trying to draft me. Why? D: I'd give them a good telling off. I'm sure there's nothing military men are afraid more than a 20 page lecture on the evils of War by Nicole! D: I wouldn't underestimate it. |
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| As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. |
Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? |
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Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? |
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RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. |
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Shiratori99 said: RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. In part its that, in another its the d'esprit et de corps, or Morale. Most Male combat infantrymen and the like given they typically have to train harder than the female counter part tends to look down on them. And when a inferior fights along side of you, or against you, well naturally matter of pride... The Soviets and Israelis never had this problem to a large scale oddly. Well in its own forces. They rape the shit out of others. But then again their training isn't any laxer on Females than Males, so any female that could finish the training was as good as her male coutnerpart. Also given this very few women were in the combat arms, minus as snipers and pilots, and even then at a 100 to 1 ratio. In many western militaries this ratio is more like 20-100 or so, but thats as the training standards are more lax for the female, and the male, so naturally it breeds resentment in the one hand, contempt in the other. In the US praticularly of note several "reforms" have lead to a dramatic rise in PMC activity. What was once a multi million dollar industry is now in the 100 billion range. |
RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: I dont think military is safe for women at the time of war as chances of rape and abused are high especially by opponents army RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. In part its that, in another its the d'esprit et de corps, or Morale. Most Male combat infantrymen and the like given they typically have to train harder than the female counter part tends to look down on them. And when a inferior fights along side of you, or against you, well naturally matter of pride... The Soviets and Israelis never had this problem to a large scale oddly. Well in its own forces. They rape the shit out of others. But then again their training isn't any laxer on Females than Males, so any female that could finish the training was as good as her male coutnerpart. Also given this very few women were in the combat arms, minus as snipers and pilots, and even then at a 100 to 1 ratio. |
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| Minus your broke quotes up there, its not for the most part. A woman in the Armed services is 75% more likely to be raped than her civilian counterpart. And thats just from her own side. Those numbers are pretty much standard across the global spectrum minus a few points here and there. |
Shiratori99 said: "We could use this man/woman/potato for this necessary non-combat role, ORRRR, shoot them, get bad press, and have to clean it up!"Of course not, they'd execute him in front of his comrades to show that everyone who refuses to fight or thinks of deserting is as good as dead already. That's what they have always done in serious wars until today. ??? |
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Mogu-sama said: Shiratori99 said: "We could use this man/woman/potato for this necessary non-combat role, ORRRR, shoot them, get bad press, and have to clean it up!"Of course not, they'd execute him in front of his comrades to show that everyone who refuses to fight or thinks of deserting is as good as dead already. That's what they have always done in serious wars until today. ??? Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. |
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Mogu-sama said: RedArmyShogun said: What could possibly go wrong?Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. In fairness with the UK, Germany, France, the US any of those, if they were in a World War situation that made a draft needed, there will be riots and civil resistance. The tolertarian means that would be needed to make a draft possible, would make shooting protestors, newmen, and dodgers, par for the course. I fully expect camps made to imprison the races that Country A was fighting would prop up as well. |
Mogu-sama said: RedArmyShogun said: What could possibly go wrong?Nonsense. Shoot the Press as well. Dead men can't talk ~~ |
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| Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. |
NTAD said: Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. If they can hack it I see no problems. But when you have to give them special treatment so some civie clowns can feel happy all you are doing is dooming yourself in the next war. Females for the most are not physically capable of combat roles. Nevermind the mental aspects. Its a matter of genetics. |
RedArmyShogun said: If a woman can't do the same pull-up as a man, she needs to go back to /kit/.NTAD said: Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. If they can hack it I see no problems. But when you have to give them special treatment so some civie clowns can feel happy all you are doing is dooming yourself in the next war. |
NTAD said: RedArmyShogun said: If a woman can't do the same pull-up as a man, she needs to go back to /kit/.NTAD said: Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. If they can hack it I see no problems. But when you have to give them special treatment so some civie clowns can feel happy all you are doing is dooming yourself in the next war. I would say the Soviets in WW2 had a good feel for this, women proved themselves in the capacity of snipers and the like, and they weren't given any special treatment. If she can pull the load of her male coutnerpart, let her in. If not, give her a typewritter, and none of this fairness shit, that gets people killed. |
RedArmyShogun said: Allowing women into front line positions upon the same merits men are held to is fairnessI would say the Soviets in WW2 had a good feel for this, women proved themselves in the capacity of snipers and the like, and they weren't given any special treatment. If she can pull the load of her male coutnerpart, let her in. If not, give her a typewritter, and none of this fairness shit, that gets people killed. So is keeping those unable to perform out of combat, it's unfair to put your soldiers in unnecessary danger... |
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RedArmyShogun said: And I am still okay with this. If she wants to do it and she CAN keep up, let her. But it's really sad to see women be refused combat roles because of stupid moral issues like possibly being raped or being killed when there are physically incapable men being allowed just because they are men...and trust me, they do that. I'd seen some tubby motherfuckers in my stint with the military.NTAD said: RedArmyShogun said: If a woman can't do the same pull-up as a man, she needs to go back to /kit/.NTAD said: Possibility of rape aside, I want to see more women in combat roles. If they can hack it I see no problems. But when you have to give them special treatment so some civie clowns can feel happy all you are doing is dooming yourself in the next war. I would say the Soviets in WW2 had a good feel for this, women proved themselves in the capacity of snipers and the like, and they weren't given any special treatment. If she can pull the load of her male coutnerpart, let her in. If not, give her a typewritter, and none of this fairness shit, that gets people killed. A woman can be killed by a car while crossing the street or by a stray bullet in a neighborhood drive-by, but drop her into combat zone? Oh heeeeell naw. #Equality |
RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: RedArmyShogun said: Shiratori99 said: Male Soldiers on either side. Combat Arms are of note for this.Infinite said: As a female, it's highly likely that one would end being sexually abused. By whom? I'd say if they get abused by their own comrades your military got a problem with discipline. In part its that, in another its the d'esprit et de corps, or Morale. Most Male combat infantrymen and the like given they typically have to train harder than the female counter part tends to look down on them. And when a inferior fights along side of you, or against you, well naturally matter of pride... To make this clear, even with a very small minority of rape and sexual abuse cases within the military actually ever being reported, the rate of these crimes was found to be several times higher in the US army compared to the civilian populace. If all were reported.... well, that figure is only going to rise. There are several reasons suggested by various people as to why rape and sexual abuse is so common within the military. Some would say that the sort of people who would join the military are more likely to commit crimes of rape (I am rather iffy about this claim), some say that the stress of fighting and the military in general causes some people to "snap" and commit crimes. The main reasons though are power and consequences. The police does not involve itself in military affairs, thus the military has to police itself. This policing just isn't as good, especially due to the nature of how these crimes would get reported and the nature of the military. If a girl gets raped by a high ranking officer, she would have to tell her superiors, who would probably not be keen on pursuing a case against their own superior. People in the military can use their power to abuse victims and get away with it due to their high rank, and without a police force (instead just a judicial body), rape is much easier to get away with. |
NTAD said: And I am still okay with this. If she wants to do it and she CAN keep up, let her. But it's really sad to see women be refused combat roles because of stupid moral issues like possibly being raped or being killed when there are physically incapable men being allowed just because they are men...and trust me, they do that. I'd seen some tubby motherfuckers in my stint with the military. A woman can be killed by a car while crossing the street or by a stray bullet in a neighborhood drive-by, but drop her into combat zone? Oh heeeeell naw. #Equality Hmm You do find people that don't belong based on them getting in on such and such technical skill, in fact I would say at least for western forces this problem has gotten worse and is why PMC's are in such high demand. The Physical standards are quite laughable..while the mental standards have gone up. Doesn't make for a effective fighting force. Mogu-sama said: Allowing women into front line positions upon the same merits men are held to is fairness So is keeping those unable to perform out of combat, it's unfair to put your soldiers in unnecessary danger... I'm talking about liberal "fairness" Ie Race and sex quota's if you don't have X amount of X or Y then thats RACIST! As to the last bit thats the burden and responsibility of Command. Infinite said: To make this clear, even with a very small minority of rape and sexual abuse cases within the military actually ever being reported, the rate of these crimes was found to be several times higher in the US army compared to the civilian populace. If all were reported.... well, that figure is only going to rise. There are several reasons suggested by various people as to why rape and sexual abuse is so common within the military. Some would say that the sort of people who would join the military are more likely to commit crimes of rape (I am rather iffy about this claim), some say that the stress of fighting and the military in general causes some people to "snap" and commit crimes. The main reasons though are power and consequences. The police does not involve itself in military affairs, thus the military has to police itself. This policing just isn't as good, especially due to the nature of how these crimes would get reported and the nature of the military. If a girl gets raped by a high ranking officer, she would have to tell her superiors, who would probably not be keen on pursuing a case against their own superior. People in the military can use their power to abuse victims and get away with it due to their high rank, and without a police force (instead just a judicial body), rape is much easier to get away with. How it goes. They do have policing units in every military around the globe however, but for "reasons" things like this go unpunished and you are left with two options that both are frankly shit. One punish and report all offenses, in the long run this might cost you a officer or soldier of note. A skilled general using his female aid for his own mistress for example being dismissed could be damaging to a unit. Or You ban all females from that service arm, which also carries its own problems. |
ibrahim2712 said: What would you do if you were drafted for a large world war against Russia or Eu or whatever. And the casualties on all sides are extremely high because both countries have advanced strong militaries so its equal power. Would you fight and likely die or would you find a way out? I would fight because i would feel too terrible when its over that i cowered and didn't fight. Might as well die in glory i guess I'd had no choice but fight for my homes and freedom. yes I m scared of death but its better to die from bullet then from hunger as civilians mostly die from it in big wars anyways. I have base millitary training, know how to use a riffle so I'd probably die in front lines and I'd be happy knowing that my life was pretty nice and beautifull and interesting all this time (if such war will ever happen I hope it will happen as late as possible because I want to live as long as possible). |
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| I wouldn't do anything. I'd probably hide. I admire soldiers for their discipline but why should I be treated as a pawn of some game between countries? It's a dog eat dog world and I only look after my family and friends. Why should I fight for a country that doesn't give a fak about me? I guess it also depends on what you're going to war for. |
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