| Come on,admit it most of them suck. I dislike Louise the most. |
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| The violent ones, LH's Naru and the Bluehead from FMP especially. Louise was also silly. Senjougahara, Asuka and Katerose on the other hand, would be some of the more or less tsundere characters that I actually liked. As long as they appear more or less real, with well portrayed psychological problems like Asuka or at least not to exaggerated behaviour as with the two others. Hitagi might be stretching the realism a bit, but not in a silly and old way, like most of the violent ones do. |
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| Tsundere only goes too far when those considered as such physically abuse the male. Louise is the perfect example of everything that can go wrong with a tsundere. Senjougahara shouldn't even really be mentioned in this topic because she's not a tsundere. Like Ukonkivi explained in another topic, she just has tsundere traits. Also, there's a difference between assaulting someone out of "love" and assaulting someone because you see them as a threat or whatever. Araragi didn't get his mouth stapled out of love. Senjougahara's more recent violent behavior is completely reasonable. If I cheated on a Senjougahara, I'd fucking expect my eye to get taken out by a pencil. You just don't do that shit. And, unlike Louise and other bad tsunderes, there's a reason behind her violent behavior. Why does Louise beat the shit out of Saitoh? Because she's stupid. You could say that the reason she beats the shit out of him is the same reason that Senjougahara threatens Araragi, but in Louise's case, when's the last time she even did something to show affection for the dude? ALMOST FUCKING NEVER. I don't know about the third season; I didn't watch that bullshit. Anyway, the point of this fucking post is that Senjougahara's behavior is reasonable. She's not tsundere; she has openly admitted to having a thing for Araragi and isn't afraid to admit it again. Plus, telling him she would be the one to kill him is the hottest shit ever. Would Louise go that far? No, because she's fucking worthless. She doesn't really love Saitoh or however you fucking spell his bitch ass name. Real love is killing your partner so you can be the closest one to them when they die. |
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| I haven't found one yet that didnt annoy me to a great degree, so I cant really pick just one that was more unbearable then the rest |
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Neverender said: Tsundere only goes too far when those considered as such physically abuse the male. Louise is the perfect example of everything that can go wrong with a tsundere. Senjougahara shouldn't even really be mentioned in this topic because she's not a tsundere. Like Ukonkivi explained in another topic, she just has tsundere traits. Also, there's a difference between assaulting someone out of "love" and assaulting someone because you see them as a threat or whatever. Araragi didn't get his mouth stapled out of love. Senjougahara's more recent violent behavior is completely reasonable. If I cheated on a Senjougahara, I'd fucking expect my eye to get taken out by a pencil. You just don't do that shit. And, unlike Louise and other bad tsunderes, there's a reason behind her violent behavior. Why does Louise beat the shit out of Saitoh? Because she's stupid. You could say that the reason she beats the shit out of him is the same reason that Senjougahara threatens Araragi, but in Louise's case, when's the last time she even did something to show affection for the dude? ALMOST FUCKING NEVER. I don't know about the third season; I didn't watch that bullshit. Anyway, the point of this fucking post is that Senjougahara's behavior is reasonable. She's not tsundere; she has openly admitted to having a thing for Araragi and isn't afraid to admit it again. Plus, telling him she would be the one to kill him is the hottest shit ever. Would Louise go that far? No, because she's fucking worthless. She doesn't really love Saitoh or however you fucking spell his bitch ass name. Real love is killing your partner so you can be the closest one to them when they die. Louise's problem is that she sees her mate as a slave more than a lover and that she is jealous to the extreme. If he even looks at another girl, she whips him. Saito apparently has Stockholm Syndrome. He's resentful towards Louise when he first meets her, but opens up to her pretty quickly and eventually even starts falling in love with her, despite the heavy abuse he gets from her. That aside, I agree with Louise being the most annoying tsundere. All the others (Shana, Nagi, etc.) are far less annoying (or even likable). |
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Osaka117 said: I haven't found one yet that didnt annoy me to a great degree, so I cant really pick just one that was more unbearable then the rest *coughRevycough*? Meh i never figured out if she was tsundere or not.... |
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AO968 said: Louise's problem is that she sees her mate as a slave more than a lover and that she is jealous to the extreme. If he even looks at another girl, she whips him. Saito apparently has Stockholm Syndrome. He's resentful towards Louise when he first meets her, but opens up to her pretty quickly and eventually even starts falling in love with her, despite the heavy abuse he gets from her. That aside, I agree with Louise being the most annoying tsundere. All the others (Shana, Nagi, etc.) are far less annoying (or even likable). word - except that Shana is approaching Louise levels of unattractive (judging from season 1; didn't watch season 2). Nagi is the best JCRie tsundere, hands down. |
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| I don't mind the violent tsundere's necessarily, since tsukommi is such a popular form of humor in anime, i'm pretty desensitized to it. The ones I hate are the ones that are ridiculously innocent; almost retardedly unaware of their own feelings and can potentially go 180 when they soften. I'm aware that tsundere implies a softer side, but when it gets too sweet I can't take it. I also hate the ones that constantly demean the male character, like he is a pet or slave or sorts, but if it's a pure comedy this isn't such an issue for me. Taiga was an issue for me for a good bit of Toradora, especially since Ryuji bonded with her even though she didn't treat him much like a human being. I pass off most of Naru and Kaname's violence as the bad punchlines of their series'. If you ignore the jokes, their tsundere personalities are repetitive, but at least vaguely believable. They show some form of affection for the guy on a regular basis, but they're quick to anger. |
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AO968 said: Neverender said: Tsundere only goes too far when those considered as such physically abuse the male. Louise is the perfect example of everything that can go wrong with a tsundere. Senjougahara shouldn't even really be mentioned in this topic because she's not a tsundere. Like Ukonkivi explained in another topic, she just has tsundere traits. Also, there's a difference between assaulting someone out of "love" and assaulting someone because you see them as a threat or whatever. Araragi didn't get his mouth stapled out of love. Senjougahara's more recent violent behavior is completely reasonable. If I cheated on a Senjougahara, I'd fucking expect my eye to get taken out by a pencil. You just don't do that shit. And, unlike Louise and other bad tsunderes, there's a reason behind her violent behavior. Why does Louise beat the shit out of Saitoh? Because she's stupid. You could say that the reason she beats the shit out of him is the same reason that Senjougahara threatens Araragi, but in Louise's case, when's the last time she even did something to show affection for the dude? ALMOST FUCKING NEVER. I don't know about the third season; I didn't watch that bullshit. Anyway, the point of this fucking post is that Senjougahara's behavior is reasonable. She's not tsundere; she has openly admitted to having a thing for Araragi and isn't afraid to admit it again. Plus, telling him she would be the one to kill him is the hottest shit ever. Would Louise go that far? No, because she's fucking worthless. She doesn't really love Saitoh or however you fucking spell his bitch ass name. Real love is killing your partner so you can be the closest one to them when they die. Louise's problem is that she sees her mate as a slave more than a lover and that she is jealous to the extreme. If he even looks at another girl, she whips him. Saito apparently has Stockholm Syndrome. He's resentful towards Louise when he first meets her, but opens up to her pretty quickly and eventually even starts falling in love with her, despite the heavy abuse he gets from her. That aside, I agree with Louise being the most annoying tsundere. All the others (Shana, Nagi, etc.) are far less annoying (or even likable). Conclusion: Saito actually likes domination exercises. |
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| I find all tsundere incredibly annoying. "Hey let's make the main character a huge asshole" "Great idea! Everybody will be sure to love them, then!" |
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Sick_Bastard said: I find all tsundere incredibly annoying. "Hey let's make the main character a huge asshole" "Great idea! Everybody will be sure to love them, then!" But wait, you have Asuka as a favorite. |
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insan3soldiern said: Sick_Bastard said: I find all tsundere incredibly annoying. "Hey let's make the main character a huge asshole" "Great idea! Everybody will be sure to love them, then!" But wait, you have Asuka as a favorite. And haruhi. |
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xxangelchanxx said: insan3soldiern said: Sick_Bastard said: I find all tsundere incredibly annoying. "Hey let's make the main character a huge asshole" "Great idea! Everybody will be sure to love them, then!" But wait, you have Asuka as a favorite. And haruhi. maybe he likes annoying characters. |
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Saitoe said: xxangelchanxx said: insan3soldiern said: Sick_Bastard said: I find all tsundere incredibly annoying. "Hey let's make the main character a huge asshole" "Great idea! Everybody will be sure to love them, then!" But wait, you have Asuka as a favorite. And haruhi. maybe he likes annoying characters. Wait, Asuka annoying? Shiiit. |
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| I liked Louise ;_; then again I'm a bit of a masochist-by-proxy when it comes to anime |
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| I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. |
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xxangelchanxx said: She's not. And she never even once used any form of violent method against Rock. And when Rock stood against her, Rock just completely owned her.Osaka117 said: I haven't found one yet that didnt annoy me to a great degree, so I cant really pick just one that was more unbearable then the rest *coughRevycough*? Meh i never figured out if she was tsundere or not.... AO968 said: Stockholm syndrome should only apply when it's kidnapping. Anything else is just ... softcore masochism? But I guess he sort of did get kidnapped...Saito apparently has Stockholm Syndrome. He's resentful towards Louise when he first meets her, but opens up to her pretty quickly and eventually even starts falling in love with her, despite the heavy abuse he gets from her. |
HappyPear said: "Most annoying tsundere?" All tsunderes. I classify Asuka as yandere, so I'm not contradicting. Asuka a yandere!?!?!? Explain. |
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| None of them. I get more annoyed and seriously pissed off against whiny characters than I do tsunderes. |
| Would Akane from Ranma 1/2 count as a tsundere or mild tsundere? She's kind of annoying in ways.. Taiga from ToraDora pissed me of a lot till I dropped it in the end, Haruhi also. It's just stupid that Haruhi thinks the world revolves around her, and in truth the whole fcking anime revolves around her. |
| The most annoying one is definitely Louis so far that I find. xxangelchanxx said: Come on,admit it most of them suck. I disagree, as I love Hiiragi Kagami of Lucky Star^_^ as a character mind you. |
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Mawootad said: I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. It's Tomoyo, and I'm not sure if she should be classified as Tsundere. The character that fits the classification in Clannad is Kyou, if anyone. |
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insan3soldiern said: Mawootad said: I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. It's Tomoyo, and I'm not sure if she should be classified as Tsundere. The character that fits the classification in Clannad is Kyou, if anyone. I think he meant Tomoya because Tomoyo doesn't pick Nagisa. And Tomoya's not tsundere, he's Nakamura Yuuichi. Also this: Baman said: Senjougahara, Asuka and Katerose on the other hand, would be some of the more or less tsundere characters that I actually liked. |
qtipbrit said: insan3soldiern said: Mawootad said: I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. It's Tomoyo, and I'm not sure if she should be classified as Tsundere. The character that fits the classification in Clannad is Kyou, if anyone. I think he meant Tomoya because Tomoyo doesn't pick Nagisa. And Tomoya's not tsundere, he's Nakamura Yuuichi. Also this: Baman said: Senjougahara, Asuka and Katerose on the other hand, would be some of the more or less tsundere characters that I actually liked. Ah, Yeah I re-read it and I still can't figure out how choosing Nagisa makes him a Tsundere. Doesn't make sense. And, oh yeah, Shana and Nagi can be annoying at times imo. Come to think of it the only "tsunderes" I really like are Haruhi, Asuka, and Kyou. But, honestly, I personally dislike the term. It's almost as though we trivialize the character when we call them that. |
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xxangelchanxx said: I dislike Louise the most. I find her to be utterly worthless. Nothing about her to be likeable. Hence, I don't even bother to watch this series. |
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AirStyles said: The most annoying one is definitely Louis so far that I find. xxangelchanxx said: Come on,admit it most of them suck. I disagree, as I love Hiiragi Kagami of Lucky Star^_^ as a character mind you. Kagami is not physically violent,which makes her entertaining.And most of the time when she gets pissed it actually kinda makes sense. |
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| Louise for sure, i don't like it when Tsundere get abusive, which is what the entire show ZnT is based off >.> Shana is probably my favorite Tsundere though since i really enjoyed her interactions with Yuji. Watching her discover these new feelings of love and jealousy was awesome and i total understood why she acted like she did. She she might have been unreasonable at some point during that show but like i said she was still discovering herself. And she has yet to cross into Louise land which always a plus. |
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insan3soldiern said: Maybe you misunderstood - I meant that Tomoya is annoying because he picked moe-blob Nagisa. He's a tsundere because, well, he meets the characteristics of a male tsundere (the criteria are slightly different between males and females. For a much stronger example of a male tsundere, check out Roger from Big O and Lelouch from CG).qtipbrit said: insan3soldiern said: Mawootad said: I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. It's Tomoyo, and I'm not sure if she should be classified as Tsundere. The character that fits the classification in Clannad is Kyou, if anyone. I think he meant Tomoya because Tomoyo doesn't pick Nagisa. And Tomoya's not tsundere, he's Nakamura Yuuichi. Also this: Baman said: Senjougahara, Asuka and Katerose on the other hand, would be some of the more or less tsundere characters that I actually liked. Ah, Yeah I re-read it and I still can't figure out how choosing Nagisa makes him a Tsundere. Doesn't make sense. And, oh yeah, Shana and Nagi can be annoying at times imo. Come to think of it the only "tsunderes" I really like are Haruhi, Asuka, and Kyou. But, honestly, I personally dislike the term. It's almost as though we trivialize the character when we call them that. |
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Mawootad said: Maybe you misunderstood - I meant that Tomoya is annoying because he picked moe-blob Nagisa. He's a tsundere because, well, he meets the characteristics of a male tsundere (the criteria are slightly different between males and females. For a much stronger example of a male tsundere, check out Roger from Big O and Lelouch from CG). But isen't there ova's for Tomoya to end up with Tomoyo and Kyou? |
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Mawootad said: insan3soldiern said: Maybe you misunderstood - I meant that Tomoya is annoying because he picked moe-blob Nagisa. He's a tsundere because, well, he meets the characteristics of a male tsundere (the criteria are slightly different between males and females. For a much stronger example of a male tsundere, check out Roger from Big O and Lelouch from CG).qtipbrit said: insan3soldiern said: Mawootad said: I'm gonna break the mold and say Tomoya from Clannad for being generally whiny and picking the annoying moe-blob. It's Tomoyo, and I'm not sure if she should be classified as Tsundere. The character that fits the classification in Clannad is Kyou, if anyone. I think he meant Tomoya because Tomoyo doesn't pick Nagisa. And Tomoya's not tsundere, he's Nakamura Yuuichi. Also this: Baman said: Senjougahara, Asuka and Katerose on the other hand, would be some of the more or less tsundere characters that I actually liked. Ah, Yeah I re-read it and I still can't figure out how choosing Nagisa makes him a Tsundere. Doesn't make sense. And, oh yeah, Shana and Nagi can be annoying at times imo. Come to think of it the only "tsunderes" I really like are Haruhi, Asuka, and Kyou. But, honestly, I personally dislike the term. It's almost as though we trivialize the character when we call them that. Different criteria between males and females? How so? The only defining trait of a Mandere that sets him apart from female tsunderes is the possession of a penis. Shinichi Chiaki of Nodame Cantabile and Irie Naoki of Itazura na Kiss are personality-wise no different from the female tsundere archetype. |
xxangelchanxx said: Two one episode OVAs are not enough to make up for two full seasons of choosing the moe-blob (and don't give me any crap about he didn't decide until the end of the first season, it was obvious from the first episode who the winner was going to be).But isen't there ova's for Tomoya to end up with Tomoyo and Kyou? qtipbrit said: It's mostly in terms of strength and how they go tsuntsun and deredere. Male tsunderes (in general) tend to be more sarcastic/caustic, less violent, less deredere, and altogether more mellow than female tsunderes (who are significantly more likely to turn to mush or beat the crap out of their love interest at the drop of a hat).Different criteria between males and females? How so? The only defining trait of a Mandere that sets him apart from female tsunderes is the possession of a penis. Shinichi Chiaki of Nodame Cantabile and Irie Naoki of Itazura na Kiss are personality-wise no different from the female tsundere archetype. |
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Mawootad said: xxangelchanxx said: Two one episode OVAs are not enough to make up for two full seasons of choosing the moe-blob (and don't give me any crap about he didn't decide until the end of the first season, it was obvious from the first episode who the winner was going to be).But isen't there ova's for Tomoya to end up with Tomoyo and Kyou? qtipbrit said: It's mostly in terms of strength and how they go tsuntsun and deredere. Male tsunderes (in general) tend to be more sarcastic/caustic, less violent, less deredere, and altogether more mellow than female tsunderes (who are significantly more likely to turn to mush or beat the crap out of their love interest at the drop of a hat).Different criteria between males and females? How so? The only defining trait of a Mandere that sets him apart from female tsunderes is the possession of a penis. Shinichi Chiaki of Nodame Cantabile and Irie Naoki of Itazura na Kiss are personality-wise no different from the female tsundere archetype. I think it's rather stupid to not like a character because he fell for the girl who, ultimately, had the most positive impact on his life. I mean, I would probably have went with her to. But, you are right about one thing: it was obvious who he'd go with. |
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insan3soldiern said: But, you are right about one thing: it was obvious who he'd go with. Like every other harem Air? Kanon? Its all the same crap. :( |
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xxangelchanxx said: insan3soldiern said: But, you are right about one thing: it was obvious who he'd go with. Like every other harem Air? Kanon? Its all the same crap. :( |
Animefan710 said: xxangelchanxx said: insan3soldiern said: But, you are right about one thing: it was obvious who he'd go with. Like every other harem Air? Kanon? Its all the same crap. :( Phs same thing if were someone if would have been her anyway. |
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xxangelchanxx (Female) said: insan3soldiern said: But, you are right about one thing: it was obvious who he'd go with. Like every other harem Air? Kanon? Its all the same crap. :( They're still great shows. You could just play the vns to end up whith whomever you want, but it would be nice if they didn't make it so blatantly obvious by the first episode. And, btw, isn't this whole discussion quite off-topic? |
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