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Mar 18, 2014 5:07 PM

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MrAM said:
Absolutely fantastic episode. Keeps getting better and better.
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It all ties in together with what happened in this episode. Honestly, the thematic consistency of this arc is astonishing, and I can't wait to see what happens next.


You won't be disapointed, this thematic will last until the very end of the ARC.
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What a disappointing episode. We spent over ten weeks on these losers taking up tons of screentime only to see them lose and Youpi walk away, not even taking any damage?! This is problematic writing at its finest. Killua needed much more screentime.

Only praiseworthy thing is it actually surprising us by not making Youpi not seem as battle crazed as he initially seemed to be, so kudos to Togashi for doing that for him, its always nice to see a writer go against the grain.
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MrAm, the one person acting least humane is ironically Gon himself.

Although not all ants embrace the individuality, nor do they choose their human side, like pouf, who is acting more like an ant. The king himself mostly and the ants in general ultimately are torn between two sides, so while humans were the best nutrition for the queen, they might have had the best and worst breed of ants yet. I love the duality of it.
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MrAm, the one person acting least humane is ironically Gon himself.

Although not all ants embrace the individuality, nor do they choose their human side, like pouf, who is acting more like an ant. The king himself mostly and the ants in general ultimately are torn between two sides, so while humans were the best nutrition for the queen, they might have had the best and worst breed of ants yet. I love the duality of it.


Ah, yes, I forgot to mention Gon. He was on my mind when I started typing, but he got forgotten in the midst of everything else. Yes, that is indeed intentional on Togashi's part. I've mentioned it before, but Gon, the main protagonist of the arc, and the King, the main antagonist, are the inverse of one another. One became less humane, while other became more humane. It's fantastic.

Good point about the duality of it. I expect Togashi to focus especially hard on that aspect in the coming episodes, especially with the King, who is basically the most prominent representative of the themes of this arc.
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Mar 18, 2014 5:45 PM

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Once again Knuckle had to choose (again) between the mission for humanity and his comrades. And he chose his friends. I don't blame him for that.
Mar 18, 2014 5:52 PM

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MrAM said:
Absolutely fantastic episode. Keeps getting better and better.

It all ties in together with what happened in this episode. Honestly, the thematic consistency of this arc is astonishing, and I can't wait to see what happens next.


very well said!!
That's why I love the Chimera Ant arc and especially the ending (made me re-revisit again and again) - everything ties up, emotionally and thematically, so beautifully. The consistency and commitment is so focused and well written, despite all the hiatus and readers' frustration (the ones who expects the usual battle shounen fare)
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I have to applaud Madhouse for delivering another solid episode this week. Episodes 113 and 115 had me feeling a bit nervous about the adaption of the invasion but they haven't disappointed us at all since then. Bravo! Also, although I'm glad that we'll finally be seeing Netero vs Meruem next week, I would've been a lot happier if Mori were handling the episode.

kcaco said:
MrAM said:
Absolutely fantastic episode. Keeps getting better and better.

It all ties in together with what happened in this episode. Honestly, the thematic consistency of this arc is astonishing, and I can't wait to see what happens next.


very well said!!
That's why I love the Chimera Ant arc and especially the ending (made me re-revisit again and again) - everything ties up, emotionally and thematically, so beautifully. The consistency and commitment is so focused and well written, despite all the hiatus and readers' frustration (the ones who expects the usual battle shounen fare)

Agreed. Keep up the fantastic posts MrAM, they are an absolute joy to read!
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Cresherhsm said:
I have to applaud Madhouse for delivering another solid episode this week. Episodes 113 and 115 had me feeling a bit nervous about the adaption of the invasion but they haven't disappointed us at all since then. Bravo! Also, although I'm glad that we'll finally be seeing Netero vs Meruem next week, I would've been a lot happier if Mori were handling the episode.


She is handling the episode after next week's. So it should be good.
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kcaco said:
Cresherhsm said:
I have to applaud Madhouse for delivering another solid episode this week. Episodes 113 and 115 had me feeling a bit nervous about the adaption of the invasion but they haven't disappointed us at all since then. Bravo! Also, although I'm glad that we'll finally be seeing Netero vs Meruem next week, I would've been a lot happier if Mori were handling the episode.


She is handling the episode after next week's. So it should be good.

Yeah but wouldn't 122 take up most of the fight at least? I don't see how they could leave most of the fighting for Mori without dragging things out or altering the sequence of a few scenes again.
Mar 18, 2014 6:14 PM

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My goddess, Knov!! Somebody get that man some antidepressants, stimulants, antipsychotics, mood stabilizers, anxiolytics, and depressants. He has become a hot, damn mess! Would've never pegged Knov as someone that could be broken so easily. Palm is going to be so disappointed when she sees what the object of her affection has become.

Got to give Youpi some credit in this episode. He acknowledged their courage and persistance and let them live to fight him another day.

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Mar 18, 2014 6:19 PM

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Togashi hits where you don't expect it. 5/5
Knuckle did a big mistake by removing APR. I liked Youpi this episode, he has changed. OMG!!!!!!!! Knov!!!!!! That's terrible...
Mar 18, 2014 6:29 PM

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damn what a great fucking episode Youpi is yet again another Ant that i just can't hate,as for Knuckle dude got a big heart but how much of a loss his kindness cost as yet to be seen but at least he still has his will.....as for Knov seems to getting worst every second.
Mar 18, 2014 6:34 PM

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MCAL said:
Actually judging by the pacing, episode 122 would be
Mar 18, 2014 6:35 PM

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correct me if I'm wrong but was it Pouf's aura that made Knov go insane ?
i can't remember either i feel like he felt pouf and king, but around that time when he was sneaking in pouf was fixing king's arm i think.

I was honestly waiting for when they beat animal like youpi shitless but i see he is a true man now xD.


The one fixing the arm of the king was Pitou (the cat), when she/he uses her healing powers she/he can't use her/his sensing aura so Pitou was replacing her/him. I haven't seen what Pouf can do so far except cloning himself, but if it was really his aura that Knov felt then it means that he must be really strong.
Mar 18, 2014 6:40 PM

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I always thought youpi's form was a single color but this looked good too.
Knov was so scared his hair fell out lmfao :D
Mar 18, 2014 6:42 PM

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Respect to Youpi. The hunters did not stand a chance against him.
Mar 18, 2014 6:53 PM

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Somehow, I remember the manga being a lot more intense at the "climax" of the Youpi fight. Dunno why.
Still a very good episode. But I missed Knov's concerned look when he asked for Palm. Here it came off more as like "you know, uh Palm? Oh well nevermind, I'm off bye".

And I never realized his haired looked like this, in the manga. o.O
I always thought it had merely thinned out or something.

But Madhouse definetely nailed portraying Gon here: I hate him just as much, as I did in the manga. Always hoped Pouf would just beat the crap out of him. Stupid, hypocritical brat.
Mar 18, 2014 7:16 PM
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But Madhouse definetely nailed portraying Gon here: I hate him just as much, as I did in the manga. Always hoped Pouf would just beat the crap out of him. Stupid, hypocritical brat.
I'm not sure what Gon did that was hypocritical though.
Mar 18, 2014 7:17 PM

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Good episode. Nice to see Youpi come to grasps with his new found power. Also managed to keep his priorities straight, even though it's already too late. Makes one wonder what will become of him at the end of the arc.
Knuckle has always been the kind of guy to let his emotions take over. In retrospect, it makes you wonder why it didn't occur to the other hunters, especially his master.
Pitou is also keeping true to herself to obey the king, but Pouf's obliviousness to the events that have taken place puts her in a tough spot.
In the end, all the characters are remaining true to their nature.
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Mar 18, 2014 7:25 PM

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Gon is a certified G.

Don't understand why/how people can hate 'em.

Knuckle started off cool when he was first introduced, but has become a fuckboy over time. Gotta give Youpi respect as a character, but that doesn't change the fact that Knuckle is a maroon and should never be trusted with anything important. He needs to stop crying every scene, too.
Mar 18, 2014 7:31 PM

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Knov looked like he aged 50 years.
Mar 18, 2014 7:39 PM

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But Madhouse definetely nailed portraying Gon here: I hate him just as much, as I did in the manga. Always hoped Pouf would just beat the crap out of him. Stupid, hypocritical brat.
I'm not sure what Gon did that was hypocritical though.


Before the palace invasion, I never really liked him nor did I dislike him. I acknowledged him for not being a stereotypical maincharacter.
But there was one scene in which he heavily impressed me. That was telling Nobunaga and the other spiders off, for being the cold blooded killers they are and smashing Nobunagas arm on the table, as if he was saying "screw you guys, I don't care!".


But after being so enraged about their behaviour (killing people they don't know like it was nothing), he threatens to do the same with Komugi.
And that's justified by his cute little Kaito vengeance, which I never found to be solidly based enough.
Yes, Kaito saved his life and yes, he is kind of a connection to his father. But still, he doesn't know him that well. Certainly not enough to call him a loved person or anything like that.
Which isn't even the point though. Even if Kaito was that, that would still make Gon's behaviour hypocritical to me.

Not saying that anyone has to agree with me on that point, though. That's just how I see him.
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Kuchenlight said:


But after being so enraged about their behaviour (killing people they don't know like it was nothing), he threatens to do the same with Komugi.


When does that happen? It's only what Pitou assumed, but Gon never actually approves it.
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judals said:
With this episode, Youpi became the most badass baddass-type character I've ever seen.

Villains are not supposed to grow farther away in power! Good guys are supposed to catch up! And he won... one of the antagonists actually won... against 5!

I loved the character development for Youpi and Knuckle.. first, it reminded me of X-men "true focus lies somewhere between rage and serenity", and how he let them go, despite his instincts as an ant... Pouf or Pitou would have never done that. He really keeps surprising me. I thought he'd just be a dumbass.

Meleoron exposing Morel, to motivate Knuckle not to turn off APR, and go help him run away, and that "downwind" remark... I love these tiny details. It's what makes these episode for me even more than the main events. Kite foreshadowed a situation regarding how they view the ants in this light, and it happened... and who better to do it than Knuckle? Not gon I tell you!

Knov is certain events away from being Theon Greyjoy.


^ dat last comment has me rolling. But no seriously for a second i was like who the hell is that? Knov is a complete mess.
Mar 18, 2014 9:05 PM

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Youpi's transformation looked so crazy. Really thought Morel was done for there. Looks like he is out of the battle now. Knov is a complete mess now.
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Mar 18, 2014 9:10 PM

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Damn you Knuckle, I knew you'd do that, now things will be getting even harder, but hell this is as exciting as ever.
Sure next week episode will be awesome, looking forward to watching Netero busting some moves


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Mar 18, 2014 9:27 PM

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if i'm not mistaken, Youpi is the strongest among the royal guards...because he is the one who is more beastlike than humanlike...so he's intelligence isn't really that high...but does not change the fact that he is the strongest...


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Kuchenlight said:


But after being so enraged about their behaviour (killing people they don't know like it was nothing), he threatens to do the same with Komugi.


When does that happen? It's only what Pitou assumed, but Gon never actually approves it.


But the fact that he doesn't deny it either shows that he is actually willing to do that in order to save Kite.
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Mar 18, 2014 9:35 PM

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This was a cool episode.

The development with Youpi's character was pure gold, he has evolved above acting based on instinct. After this episode I like him more than I did before.

As for knuckle I couldn't comprehend why he would undo his APR when had less than 3 minutes left til it took away Youpi's nen. Than again, as usual, he wasn't really thinking with anything but his heart huh -_-

*sees Knov* O___O OH MY GAAWWWDDDD!!!!!! WTF!

Seeing Killua makes me sad :(
Gon, why u so heartless to poor Killua? D:

Mar 18, 2014 10:10 PM

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awesome episode. i really dont understand the anger towards gon though. we're talking about a little kid who had just prepared himself to kill these ants with no remorse and then was told he couldnt. hes not killiua he doesnt have assassin training. wtf do you think would happen when you send 14 year old into this situation? the assumption isnt that he would kill komugi. its that he would kill pitou, which would kill komugi. there was a comment earlier about how gon was hypocritical because of the whole nobunaga incident. but its the same thing. he cant comprehend how this ant that was killing people with no regard would go out of its way to help this one human because the king likes her. hes just as pissed as was during the nobunaga confrontation.
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if i'm not mistaken, Youpi is the strongest among the royal guards...because he is the one who is more beastlike than humanlike...so he's intelligence isn't really that high...but does not change the fact that he is the strongest...


i found it sorta weird how Youpi, who from a first impression looks like the dumbest RG,but from what we've seen so far he has been in my opinion the most intelligent
Mar 18, 2014 11:51 PM

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i just hate how Overpower this royal guards and the king. its like having stronger enemies in the succeeding arc's impossible. im just saying. even if we do have more arcs to come. how would the hunters fight them? if clearly it shows how weak hunters are.
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Yes, Kaito saved his life and yes, he is kind of a connection to his father. But still, he doesn't know him that well. Certainly not enough to call him a loved person or anything like that.
Which isn't even the point though. Even if Kaito was that, that would still make Gon's behaviour hypocritical to me.

Not saying that anyone has to agree with me on that point, though. That's just how I see him.


You have a point there, yes Madhouse stayed loyal to the manga, but this is one heck of a mistake on their part for not adding the very fist chapter of the manga. Though we have seen the relationship of Gon and Kite by Kite saving Gon through flashback but that wasn't enough to show us the real connection between those two and how deep it is. One advice go read the very first chapter of the manga or watch the very first episode of the 1999 series to be able to know how deeply Gon is related to Kite.
Mar 19, 2014 12:30 AM

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Youpi... OMG
Mar 19, 2014 12:36 AM

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Netero vs King next episode and the episode after that probably. Never been so keen on seeing something animated in my life

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Cresherhsm said:
Also, although I'm glad that we'll finally be seeing Netero vs Meruem next week, I would've been a lot happier if Mori were handling the episode.

She is handling the episode after next week's. So it should be good.


Good news.
Mar 19, 2014 12:37 AM

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There was a lot of non-animation that bothered me in this episode. Still pictures in lieu of actual animation has always been a pet peeve of mine. Bothered the me in Berserk, bothered me here. However much like Berserk, the actual content of the episode was so strong it didn't brother me too much, making it more of a minor irritation than something major like it would've been in a lesser show.

Really good showing, I liked pretty much everything & one of the little touches I really liked that I didn't see get discussed (it very well could've, its been a few hours since I went through this thread & I didn't read every response) was that the straw that broke the camel's back of Knuckles decision to remove APR was him remembering what happened to Shoot.

Anyway, I've been eagerly anticipating seeing Netero/Meruem animated since I read it in the manga. It's a bit redundant to say it but I really can't wait for the upcoming weeks.
Mar 19, 2014 1:13 AM

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5/5 episode god fucking damn, THAT IS HOW YOU DO AN EPISODE HxH! This arc has largely pissed me off for dragging things far more than they needed to be but I loved (almost) every second of this episode.

Fuck Knuckle man, my jaw actually dropped when I saw him remove APR, another minute or so and Youpi would've been nothing more than a fly on their backs. Youpi and Knov were awesome though, Youpi's become one of the best villains I've seen in anything for a long long time and Knov has MC-like determination right now.

I'm gonna have to skip the next month or so of episodes because if next week goes back to more of the same shit then it'll piss me off too much so I'm going to have to try and restrain myself for a bit.
Mar 19, 2014 1:15 AM

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title change please weak x weak. this show clearly show's how weak humans are. ugh. it makes me sick the level of power is beyond OP. its clearly 1000:1. and they call themselves hunters pff.

i bet all of those hunters in these arc and combine there nen it wouldn't even match's youpi's nen.

iknow that they still have there unique ability's and that they can still win if used properly. however there nen is so unmatched that they'll have to relay to there
ability so much.


and if netero is beaten, THE STRONGEST HUNTER" is defeated by the king. how the fuck would they win if theres still other queen ant out there?? and other kings being born. if netero lose this one this show is fck uped and future enemies would be guaranteed weaker than the ants. which would totally suck

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But that's what makes this arc so intriguing, Kite's fear at the beginning of the arc seemed extreme at the time but now we know why because if left breed and produce a king, they have the power to take over the world.
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Youpi's character development was amazing to see. Knuckle is such a good friend, he is the type of friend I want. Can't wait for the big fight Netero vs. The King! Good episode, really unique.


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The logic in this episode is... ughhh...

Gon threatening TWO royal guards who can easily kill him? who the fuck does he think he is? like hell he's gonna kill Pitou (no one to "fix" Kite, whom his stupid brain hasn't realized is already dead). And if he does attack Pitou, Pouf would just kill him from behind. So what if Gon kills Komugi? like Pouf could care less. No Komugi is good for Pouf. Going by common sense Pouf would kill Gon the moment he saw him.
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Character choosing their Nakama over the fate of the world
the big bad character alone defeats 5 of them with ease like Nappa in DB
no death despite the dangreous situation they are in
so unrealistic

so generic and cliche.

Did this anime become one piece? Thats a new level of bad and trite. So cringe worthy.
Mar 19, 2014 2:27 AM

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it's a great ep, not gonna lie but i kinda mad that Knuckle took off over 250k of APR... it wasted everyone's work.
Mar 19, 2014 2:33 AM

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Character choosing their Nakama over the fate of the world
the big bad character alone defeats 5 of them with ease like Nappa in DB
no death despite the dangreous situation they are in
so unrealistic
The deaths would have been anticlimactic as usual. Nothing really new there in that regard.

'Sides, part of Knov already died. :V
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so unrealistic.
if this is unrealistic then so does every anime in existence..

Youpi was created purely from insects and animals and other stuff (no humans) so I didn't expect him to uhh.. pity them
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Youpi's first priority is the king any other else is insignificant
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amazing episode. the social, moral, and psychological evolution of the chimera ants has been amazingly executed particularly in meruem and the royal guards. knuckle was also great in this episode his character trait of sympathy over self preservation has been an interesting motif throughout the arc togashi really did a great job of developing his "tough guy crybaby" personality because most manga/anime writers would've just left it at that and used his softer side just for humor but in this arc it's become a full fleshed conflict. i loved this episode so much there's too much to say about it and discuss than i could ever do in one post without it being at least a page long.
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The logic in this episode is... ughhh...

Gon threatening TWO royal guards who can easily kill him?


I wouldn't bet on that one.
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And if he does attack Pitou, Pouf would just kill him from behind. So what if Gon kills Komugi? like Pouf could care less. No Komugi is good for Pouf. Going by common sense Pouf would kill Gon the moment he saw him.

Pouf doesn't operate on his basic instincts and urges. He saw the situation and thought it was weird and didn't make any sudden move until he understood and wrapped up his head around the situation. That is his type of character and how he thinks. It's not that Gon, can take on the two royal guards, they might be able to kill him in an instant, but that instant might be enough for him to harm Komugi in some way, which is Pitou's main concern, and reason for not attacking Gon or asking Pouf to do it.

Gon was just simply lucky. Without Komgui, he might have died the moment he arrogantly asked Pitou if he remembers his -trivial- existence.

One of the few things I appreciate about this arc, is how much an existence of a single character (Komugi) had a drastic change on the outcome of this arc. Remove her from it, and the invasion would have went differently.
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