The Anime Network releases episodes online
EDIT on 12-19-07: Everything is dubbed into English except for the newest addition, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
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Though they really need to make subs available.
yeah.. thus I don't care... :P
Dec 21, 2007 7:19 PM by SY_IS_DEAD_IRL
My problems with this are:
- The fansub community have managed dual audio and softsubs for years. What's wrong with ADV? Sub only fans like myself are not rare. I'd not watch dubs if they paid me.
- Good idea to draw in the fansub crowd with a legal alternative, with one problem: it attempts to supplement fansubs with an inferior alternative. Why watch with adverts when you can watch without? Who'd be drawn in by that? That's one reason I don't have a TV any more, I couldn't stand the ads.
- Funding something like this purely through advertising is not a sustainable model. Advertisers only fund things as long as they believe they are getting some sort of return - and if people are looking for free stuff I don't really see them as a prime market demographic. This is especially true if the adverts are for ADV products or other anime stuff. Anyone, what are the ads for?
- If you provide this for free, you are giving out an impression that it's OK not to pay for anime. A lot of people out there believe this, but doing this for free does nothing to disabuse them of that notion. This strikes me as working directly against their best interests. The vanguard of the industry's argument with fansubs is that the creators don't see any returns; with this, they still don't.
- What are people outside the US meant to do? What about people in, I dunno, Romania or somewhere like that who don't exactly get a chance to snap up all the latest releases? Should we assume that it's OK to watch torrents, since ADV hasn't deigned to provide us with access to these streams? Surely a better way to do it would be block only states that have licensed these series. Who loses out then?
What they should do:
Put these out advert-free, for minimal cost, like half a dollar each. They should be downloadable, not streamed, and they should be torrents. There should ideally be no regional restrictions, or at least inclusive "everyone but X" rules rather than exclusive "no-one but X" rules. Much more cost- and bandwidth-efficient, much more pleasant product for consumers, much wider audience.
Dec 21, 2007 12:50 AM by YourMessageHere
Dec 19, 2007 8:34 PM by mitamaking
Dec 19, 2007 12:18 PM by Anomalous
Dec 8, 2007 11:55 AM by cook777
And on a more personal note: OMG, YAY! I approve of any and all legal free anime.
I totally agree. At least ONE company in coming up with an solution to dwindling sales instead of screaming Bloody Murder at fansubbers...
Dec 1, 2007 5:27 PM by Cobrafire
Nov 30, 2007 4:35 PM by cook777
Nov 28, 2007 7:52 PM by Anomalous
Can someone help me. I do not know what to do.
Nov 28, 2007 6:07 PM by cook777
bunch of racists, need to be in the US or canada to view it :(
thats not rasiasm its natinalism (i can'tr spell)
Either way, I think it's a case of legality, not bias. ADV only has the region 1 (North American) rights, after all.
Nov 22, 2007 9:54 AM by Anomalous
bunch of racists, need to be in the US or canada to view it :(
thats not rasiasm its natinalism (i can'tr spell)
Nov 22, 2007 8:56 AM by death1001
It's interesting to see that they have the second Ah! My Goddess TV series, but not the first.
I still need to watch the first... :o
The first season is licensed by Media Blasters, and the second is licensed by ADV. The Anime Network is also owned by ADV, so that's gotta be why.
Nov 21, 2007 4:10 PM by caperclaw
Nov 21, 2007 3:20 PM by queenofautumn
It's interesting to see that they have the second Ah! My Goddess TV series, but not the first.
I still need to watch the first... :o
The first season is licensed by Media Blasters, and the second is licensed by ADV. The Anime Network is also owned by ADV, so that's gotta be why.
Nov 21, 2007 12:39 PM by Anomalous
Nov 21, 2007 11:27 AM by Aokaado
Nov 21, 2007 11:24 AM by daiev
Nov 21, 2007 11:23 AM by Nerull
I still need to watch the first... :o
Nov 21, 2007 11:22 AM by Powerlord
Nov 21, 2007 11:03 AM by magentaanbu
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I think they're doing a good thing by doing this, I just think they're going about it completely the wrong way.
My problems with this are:
- The fansub community have managed dual audio and softsubs for years. What's wrong with ADV? Sub only fans like myself are not rare. I'd not watch dubs if they paid me.
- Good idea to draw in the fansub crowd with a legal alternative, with one problem: it attempts to supplement fansubs with an inferior alternative. Why watch with adverts when you can watch without? Who'd be drawn in by that? That's one reason I don't have a TV any more, I couldn't stand the ads.
- Funding something like this purely through advertising is not a sustainable model. Advertisers only fund things as long as they believe they are getting some sort of return - and if people are looking for free stuff I don't really see them as a prime market demographic. This is especially true if the adverts are for ADV products or other anime stuff. Anyone, what are the ads for?
- If you provide this for free, you are giving out an impression that it's OK not to pay for anime. A lot of people out there believe this, but doing this for free does nothing to disabuse them of that notion. This strikes me as working directly against their best interests. The vanguard of the industry's argument with fansubs is that the creators don't see any returns; with this, they still don't.
- What are people outside the US meant to do? What about people in, I dunno, Romania or somewhere like that who don't exactly get a chance to snap up all the latest releases? Should we assume that it's OK to watch torrents, since ADV hasn't deigned to provide us with access to these streams? Surely a better way to do it would be block only states that have licensed these series. Who loses out then?
What they should do:
Put these out advert-free, for minimal cost, like half a dollar each. They should be downloadable, not streamed, and they should be torrents. There should ideally be no regional restrictions, or at least inclusive "everyone but X" rules rather than exclusive "no-one but X" rules. Much more cost- and bandwidth-efficient, much more pleasant product for consumers, much wider audience.
#1.They are now providing a first show subbed and if you hate dubs that much, then why watch them because anime at it's core is a cartoon and are you telling me the drawings spoke originally, no they had to dub them into Japanese. And I would so watch dubs if I were payed.
#2.Maybe some people actually want to obey laws instead of go out of there way to be illegal, if you can't stand watching a half minute ad before, in the middle, and at the end of a show, you don't really deserve to watch them.
#3.Maybe they are trying to provide what the fans want, and this is ADV, if they could maybe make people want free Funimation anime when it is not there and make them get it illegally, then maybe Funi will die and ADV would have less competition.
#4.ADV is a US company, they have no rights outside of the US(and Canada for some) so that is not there problem, ADV is not trying to sell anime to Romanians, it is trying to sell anime to people in North America.
The problem with your what they should do is it steps over Romanian company rights, you still pay, which as you said is something fans do not want to do, and to be honest wuld reach a smaller audience.
Done with the quote new thought.
What is the best selling DVDs in anime this year, DBZ and Afro Samurai I believe, both were available on TV for free with ads, which is acceptible if not in too high of amount(Ani-Monday) so this is a great idea, my one wish is that it had an option to be downloadable.
Dec 21, 2007 11:24 PM by mitamaking