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4Kids Files Bankruptcy

by dtshyk
Apr 6, 2011 8:58 PM | 186 Comments
According to Yahoo Finance, 4Kids Entertainment announced that they have filed for bankruptcy under Chapter 11 of the U.S. Bankruptcy Code. The bankruptcy filing covers all the domestic subsidiaries of 4Kids. As a result of the filing, the lawsuit over the license of Yu-Gi-Oh! series has been suspended. 4Kids will continue their business during the pendency of the bankruptcy.

Source: Yahoo.com

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Cashdaxxx said:
Onibokusu said:
Oh yeah, saying 'this is no longer an argument but a trolling section' doesn't make it magically so, unless I'm now trolling bars and picking up women.
Yare Yare


Hey, I guess this is a trolling section now.

Apr 8, 2011 6:05 AM by no-thanks

Cashdaxxx said:
Onibokusu said:
Oh yeah, saying 'this is no longer an argument but a trolling section' doesn't make it magically so, unless I'm now trolling bars and picking up women.
Yare Yare
EDIT:
Black_Rose1809 said:
Wow... I can't believe people are still fighting about this and with a person you don't know. I'm not going to give my opinion about 4Kids, because I did and that's that, But!

Just because someone is debating about something you guys don't agree with, doesn't mean you have to go after their heads. It's just debate, nothing concrete, just opinion.

Act like adults and agree to disagree or find some common ground. There's no reason in fighting something we don't know.
Finally, someone noticed. +1


I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not.. but thanks. I think?

Apr 8, 2011 6:00 AM by Black_Rose1809

Onibokusu said:
Oh yeah, saying 'this is no longer an argument but a trolling section' doesn't make it magically so, unless I'm now trolling bars and picking up women.
Yare Yare
EDIT:
Black_Rose1809 said:
Wow... I can't believe people are still fighting about this and with a person you don't know. I'm not going to give my opinion about 4Kids, because I did and that's that, But!

Just because someone is debating about something you guys don't agree with, doesn't mean you have to go after their heads. It's just debate, nothing concrete, just opinion.

Act like adults and agree to disagree or find some common ground. There's no reason in fighting something we don't know.
Finally, someone noticed. +1

Apr 8, 2011 5:52 AM by Cashdax

Wow... I can't believe people are still fighting about this and with a person you don't know. I'm not going to give my opinion about 4Kids, because I did and that's that, But!

Just because someone is debating about something you guys don't agree with, doesn't mean you have to go after their heads. It's just debate, nothing concrete, just opinion.

Act like adults and agree to disagree or find some common ground. There's no reason in fighting something we don't know.

Apr 8, 2011 5:45 AM by Black_Rose1809

Lefake said:
Why does he keep lurking around like a vulture, waiting to strike at each and every one whose 'logic is screwed up' until he achieves ABSOLUTE victory?


If I remember correctly, I'm the one being responded to, not the other way around. It's evident in all your 'examples', considering I was just responding to others. None of those are examples are of me 'lurking around like a vulture'. Sure, they can look that way, out of context mind you.

There's no rule about how much I can post in any one topic. I'm not spamming, nor trolling, I'm perfectly on topic. You're free to leave any time if you get fed up with it.

And did you notice my quotes up there? I find them insulting towards the other members who 'were' here. Without it I might have even over looked this whole matter.


Insulting? axlecampos used irony incorrectly, 4kids did release an uncut dub of YuGiOh, I am being called a troll simply because I disagree with some of you, and the guy I called 'pretty sad' contradicted himself mid-post.

Cashdaxxx said:
I'm not trolling, I'm just suggesting for you to stop since seeing you in every page in every news thread is already annoying. And if I were to construct something, it would contradict my request for I'll be increasing your post.


Well, if 'every news thread' is this thread, the Aya Hirano thread (of which I made a single reply), UK Streaming thread and the FUNimation thread, then I guess I am in 'every news thread' which would be pretty annoying, wouldn't it? You could, y'know, look in other threads too. Couldn't hurt. I'm pretty certain I haven't posted in them.

Actual Logic? You mean; I watched some 4kids production stuff so I'll counter everything you say about them. Nahh, I'll pass to that.


Well, if you like to base what you're saying upon misleading information, go ahead. I'm not stopping you from thinking they're a dying, evil, culture blocking company. You can discount absolutely everything positive about the company if it makes you feel any better about yourself, but you'd be pretty silly to bring an attitude like that into a serious discussion though.

Oh yeah, saying 'this is no longer an argument but a trolling section' doesn't make it magically so, unless I'm now trolling bars and picking up women.

Apr 8, 2011 5:41 AM by no-thanks

Onibokusu said:
Cashdaxxx said:

@Onibokusu: I think you need to stop arguing...it's already annoying to see your forum avatar for atleast twice in every page. ROFLMAO
2/10.

Try harder, or try actually adding something to the conversation. I don't think you've adding anything constructive yet, so you could give that a try.
Read.

I'm not trolling, I'm just suggesting for you to stop since seeing you in every page in every news thread is already annoying. And if I were to construct something, it would contradict my request for I'll be increasing your post.
Redfoxoffire said:

Is more a result of your own (and others) frustration than Onibokusu actually being provocative. And why are you frustrated? Because it's hard to realize when you're wrong and have nothing to fight back with. I know the feeling, trust me. The thing is, no one wants to be wrong, so when things get tough and your views are challenged it's instinctual to want to fight against it, and that's why people kept responding.
Say it to him. And if it's pride, let him eat it. If this still continues, this is no longer an argument but a trolling section.
Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.
Actual Logic? You mean; I watched some 4kids production stuff so I'll counter everything you say about them. Nahh, I'll pass to that.

Apr 8, 2011 5:24 AM by Cashdax

Redfoxoffire said:
Is more a result of your own (and others) frustration than Onibokusu actually being provocative. And why are you frustrated? Because it's hard to realize when you're wrong and have nothing to fight back with. I know the feeling, trust me. The thing is, no one wants to be wrong, so when things get tough and your views are challenged it's instinctual to want to fight against it, and that's why people kept responding.


Why I'm mad is q good question indeed as I've never even argued back that much myself. I just let it go of it after he replied to mine, and he did so in a decently lenient tone too.

What I'm actually more frustrated at is the fact that he's dominating the whole board. Why does he keep lurking around like a vulture, waiting to strike at each and every one whose 'logic is screwed up' until he achieves ABSOLUTE victory? Shouldn't he consider when to give it a break and let others roam free for a change? Just because he's right and we're all wrong doesn't mean he should force people to change their opinions. There's a difference between being smart by giving out a splendid counter-critique and just acting like some arrogant higher-up elite who thinks he owns the board, which in this case he's both.

And did you notice my quotes up there? I find them insulting towards the other members who 'were' here. Without it I might have even over looked this whole matter.

Apr 8, 2011 5:09 AM by SweetAegis

Lefake said:
Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.
You have absolutely no idea how much other people have become fed up with dealing with his arguments.

Then don't. After all...

Sheesh, I see no reason why he should be wasting anymore time dealing with these 4kids haters. A highly talented and rational person such as himself should just leave this topic in dignity and pride, whilst looking down upon us as we continue to enjoy posting inconstructive comments.

That's what you're suggesting to him. And honestly, I think this:

Onibokusu sure does have a lot of logic and is probably smarter than the rest of us. I for one humbly admit that my thinking skills aren't worthy enough to qualify a discussion with him. But the thing here is, I find his arguments, in bigger words and more complex writing style, to contain somewhat of a provocative tone, fueling the flames for others to argue back.

Of course, it's NOT the superiority of his language ability and logical reasoning which infuriates people so much. Rather, it's his determination to prove he's right while, for me at least, looking like he's rejecting those against him to be wrong and unreasonable, hoping they'll see the error of their mind set. And no, not because he's arguing with a lot of post, but there's gotta be a limit somewhere.

Is more a result of your own (and others) frustration than Onibokusu actually being provocative. And why are you frustrated? Because it's hard to realize when you're wrong and have nothing to fight back with. I know the feeling, trust me. The thing is, no one wants to be wrong, so when things get tough and your views are challenged it's instinctual to want to fight against it, and that's why people kept responding.

Apr 8, 2011 4:10 AM by Florete

Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.
You have absolutely no idea how much other people have become fed up with dealing with his arguments.

Onibokusu sure does have a lot of logic and is probably smarter than the rest of us. I for one humbly admit that my thinking skills aren't worthy enough to qualify a discussion with him. But the thing here is, I find his arguments, in bigger words and more complex writing style, to contain somewhat of a provocative tone, fueling the flames for others to argue back.

Of course, it's NOT the superiority of his language ability and logical reasoning which infuriates people so much. Rather, it's his determination to prove he's right while, for me at least, looking like he's rejecting those against him to be wrong and unreasonable, hoping they'll see the error of their mind set. And no, not because he's arguing with a lot of post, but there's gotta be a limit somewhere.

Also, certain the remarks such as ..
Onibokusu said:
You've never watched the uncut version of 4kids' Yu-Gi-Oh dub, have you?
That's what happens when people who don't know what 'uncut' means don't buy the DVDs, due to them discounting the release due to the 4kids logo being on it.
Well, I wouldn't expect you to know what 'irony' was anyway.
It just sounds like you're calling me a troll because you don't agree with me. Name calling isn't going to get you anywhere, especially considering name calling comes about when you've started to lose things to say.
Wow, you really think that? That's pretty sad.

...etc, wait wasn't there more to the rice ball discussion?

Sheesh, I see no reason why he should be wasting anymore time dealing with these 4kids haters. A highly talented and rational person such as himself should just leave this topic in dignity and pride, whilst looking down upon us as we continue to enjoy posting inconstructive comments.

Sry Onibokusu, but this guy here made me snap. I knew it started out as nothing more than some simple, inoffensive counter-argument which people had trouble accepting. but it gradually picked up it's intensity up to this point. I won't say that you're entirely at fault here. Feel free to say whatever you want, or just shun me by ignoring this post as I'm too unskilled at my language proficiency and uncreative for your consideration.

Apr 8, 2011 3:18 AM by SweetAegis

Redfoxoffire said:
ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.


*bows*

'Rice balls are srs bsn. There is simply no way to enjoy Pokemon without their inclusion.'

- MyAnimeList

Apr 8, 2011 12:38 AM by no-thanks

ITT people resort to flames and petty insults because Onibokusu rained on their hate parade with actual logic. Good show.

Apr 8, 2011 12:17 AM by Florete

Cashdaxxx said:

@Onibokusu: I think you need to stop arguing...it's already annoying to see your forum avatar for atleast twice in every page. ROFLMAO


2/10.

Try harder, or try actually adding something to the conversation. I don't think you've adding anything constructive yet, so you could give that a try.

Apr 7, 2011 11:34 PM by no-thanks



@Onibokusu: I think you need to stop arguing...it's already annoying to see your forum avatar for atleast twice in every page. ROFLMAO

Apr 7, 2011 11:02 PM by Cashdax

Syb3rStrife said:


KHAAAAANNNNNNN I miss you T_T

Apr 7, 2011 10:55 PM by Roloko

Apr 7, 2011 9:38 PM by Syb3rStrife

Onibokusu said:
Lefake said:

But why are you being so excessively persistant about it. Was it necessary to argue with just about everyone who posts negative comments against them?


Well, I haven't argued against 'just about everyone'. I've only argued against two or three people, and I didn't even start those arguments.

ycart59 said:
I just find it strange that you KEEP coming back to defend something like this. Most people would've given up by now, unless they just wanted to show JUST HOW MUCH more "informed" they are, even though your argument has gotten very far away from anything legal (even if it was my comments that derived it).

And you don't seem to want to inform, either, so don't bother falling back on that. You wouldn't argue so much if you were here to inform.


Hey, you're the one that started this whole thing. All I did was state that filing under Chapter 11 doesn't make 4kids dead, and that 4kids' anime was quite clearly edited for U.S. television. Then you came in with a question, which I sought to answer, which you then ignored (despite enquiring with me as to why I thought they replaced a rice ball with a sandwich).

If I wasn't coming across as more informed, why would you have asked me that question in the first place (despite the fact that you were 'joking')? Seems like you were just looking for a way to incite an argument, considering what the general consensus about 4kids was in this thread.

You didn't even follow up when I gave my opinion on why the rice ball was changed, you just asked 'are you still here?'


Fuck it, I don't even care. I'm not too dedicated to this argument, so I'll just let you win or whutever you want.

Apr 7, 2011 9:30 PM by ycart59

Lefake said:

But why are you being so excessively persistant about it. Was it necessary to argue with just about everyone who posts negative comments against them?


Well, I haven't argued against 'just about everyone'. I've only argued against two or three people, and I didn't even start those arguments.

ycart59 said:
I just find it strange that you KEEP coming back to defend something like this. Most people would've given up by now, unless they just wanted to show JUST HOW MUCH more "informed" they are, even though your argument has gotten very far away from anything legal (even if it was my comments that derived it).

And you don't seem to want to inform, either, so don't bother falling back on that. You wouldn't argue so much if you were here to inform.


Hey, you're the one that started this whole thing. All I did was state that filing under Chapter 11 doesn't make 4kids dead, and that 4kids' anime was quite clearly edited for U.S. television. Then you came in with a question, which I sought to answer, which you then ignored (despite enquiring with me as to why I thought they replaced a rice ball with a sandwich).

If I wasn't coming across as more informed, why would you have asked me that question in the first place (despite the fact that you were 'joking')? Seems like you were just looking for a way to incite an argument, considering what the general consensus about 4kids was in this thread.

You didn't even follow up when I gave my opinion on why the rice ball was changed, you just asked 'are you still here?'

Apr 7, 2011 9:06 PM by no-thanks

FoxyRoxy said:
I bet everyone here who's opposed to 4Kids' "americanization" of their anime weren't even aware of it and watched their shows gleefully every weekday and Saturday morning ^_-


Yeah... good old days when torrent and fansubs didn't exist :*(

Apr 7, 2011 8:37 PM by JohnShepard

Onibokusu said:
Cashdaxxx said:
Black_Rose1809 said:
Cashdaxxx said:
I just saw a troll quoting a post :/


<.< >.>

Who? Me?
nahhh...there are a lot of them in this thread

please clean this thread forum mods...


Not agreeing with you != trolling.


ah okies. I was like WTF? O.o

Apr 7, 2011 8:28 PM by Black_Rose1809

ycart59 said:
I'm rewatching dubbed Pokemon right now, I'll admit to that. But that's merely for nostalgia.

I just find it strange that you KEEP coming back to defend something like this. Most people would've given up by now, unless they just wanted to show JUST HOW MUCH more "informed" they are, even though your argument has gotten very far away from anything legal (even if it was my comments that derived it).

And you don't seem to want to inform, either, so don't bother falling back on that. You wouldn't argue so much if you were here to inform.


What I find strange is that people wish for a company that broadcast cartoon for children to disappear just because they modified their favorite show.

Apr 7, 2011 7:56 PM by JohnShepard

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