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Kara no Kyoukai Blu-ray Box Sold Out in the US

by dtshyk
Feb 6, 2011 6:11 AM | 99 Comments
According to the official web diary, the President of ufotable Kondo Hikaru said the Blu-ray box sets of Kara no Kyoukai have sold out in the US. Before the release, one of the local distributers asserted that the more than $300 price was ridiculously high in the US and that nobody would purchase it. Kondo didn't disclose how many sets have been sold, but he had a toast with the local buyers, who were also astonished at the sales. Kondo is visiting San Francisco to attend the screening of Kara no Kyoukai.

Source: ufotable webdiary

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stupid question, but i need som clarification, when they say $300, do they mean for ONE dvd a.k.a this 1st movie, or is it all of it together??

Jul 2, 2012 12:43 PM by supermegasonic

is it possible to buy this blu ray box anymore
i really want it...

Dec 6, 2011 12:02 AM by kaena

That's completely out of my reach, but I'm glad that quality sells.

Hoping the previously-massacre-censored-fanservicefest BDs crashed down so people will consider to create more quality instead.

Oct 26, 2011 5:55 AM by zeroyuki92

BlackSnake56 said:
$300

It costed this much?!

Oct 25, 2011 12:38 PM by 09890

agnethafan said:
Apparently to buy Card Captor Sakura bluray is over $1000....................

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edit: oh haha, someone above me already mentioned this :P
Wish Sailor Moon was on bluray sometimes, but I can imagine the price....!


lol actually I was talking about the uncut subbed dvds of CCS that Geneon USA distributed back in I think maybe 2002? Although CCS on Bluray would be nice though.

Oct 25, 2011 7:07 AM by Roloko

Apparently to buy Card Captor Sakura bluray is over $1000....................

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edit: oh haha, someone above me already mentioned this :P
Wish Sailor Moon was on bluray sometimes, but I can imagine the price....!

Oct 25, 2011 4:08 AM by bellerose

OriginANIME said:
I admit this Anime was awesome but 300 dollars...? I don't think any Anime series is worth that much.


Well in the US that is considered expensive unless your talking about CCS or Sailor Moon the Out of Print DVDs go for almost $1,000 each for the complete series in singles since they never released the series in boxed sets.

Also in Japan the boxsets are anywhere $300~$800 for 12~24 episodes. Cause both Clannad series limited edition complete collections with eng.subs are almost near $800 for each.

Oct 25, 2011 4:05 AM by Roloko

I admit this Anime was awesome but 300 dollars...? I don't think any Anime series is worth that much.

Oct 25, 2011 2:52 AM by OriginANIME

$300/8 (7 + epilogue(i guess)) = ~$35/movie

some of these "movies" are only 40 minutes long and its not even dubbed...i like KnK but i think im gonna wait for individual bds

Feb 10, 2011 2:13 PM by Jimb0

hogkill said:
I'm going to cry... I want this on my shelf so badly I'd be willing to pay the retail of $600 at this point. $400 is a steal for this in my view, but I had no idea they were going to release this in NA.

Are they still making this version in Japan? I wouldn't mind buying one without the translation booklet.


Your best shot would be Japanese Amazon for now.

I'm so glad I ordered my own from Rightstuf at the beginning of February and it's on it's way now. I excepted it would be sold out.

Feb 9, 2011 9:31 PM by xyakaix

Anjira said:
I just got a message back from Right Stuf about the boxsets coming back in stock, and this is what they said:

"Thank you for contacting us.

Aniplex of America gave us a limited number of the Garden of Sinners Blu-ray
sets, and unfortunately, we have run out. We don't anticipate receiving more
copies. I apologize for the inconvenience."

So, looks like I missed out on this one.


I'm going to cry... I want this on my shelf so badly I'd be willing to pay the retail of $600 at this point. $400 is a steal for this in my view, but I had no idea they were going to release this in NA.

Are they still making this version in Japan? I wouldn't mind buying one without the translation booklet.

Feb 9, 2011 5:00 PM by hogkill

I just got a message back from Right Stuf about the boxsets coming back in stock, and this is what they said:

"Thank you for contacting us.

Aniplex of America gave us a limited number of the Garden of Sinners Blu-ray
sets, and unfortunately, we have run out. We don't anticipate receiving more
copies. I apologize for the inconvenience."

So, looks like I missed out on this one.

Feb 9, 2011 12:59 PM by Anjira

Does anyone know/think this will be back in stock eventually? And do the original dvds have english subtitles or no?

Feb 8, 2011 6:43 PM by Anjira

Onibokusu said:
That's almost ad hominem, because if I did continue the argument here you'd just claim I was some sort of an attention whore trying to justify a purchase.
Aw shucks, you caught us.

Feb 8, 2011 10:58 AM by Leon-Gun

RedSuisei said:
Because there's no way I have another collection you don't know of that I might spent that $400 on? Though really, if all this encoding stuff you mentioned is just an attempt to make yourself feel good about your purchase, then by all means think so. After all, who am I to force you to dislike those unnaturally thick, aliased lines? If you like it, good for you. I will still have something that look better in my eyes anyway, and can still spend that $400 on something else.

Mind continuing on my profile? This really gets off-topic, unless for some reason you want to be an attention-whore and show everyone just how much your knowledge and just how true you are about the great QUALITY of this BD.


I don't need to justify my purchase to random individuals on the internet. You, and a lot of others, seem to feel the need to discuss semantics to try and belittle the collection's worth.

Oh, and yes, let's continue this in comments. You, for some reason, feel the need to make this my fault if it continues here by making it seem like a negative aspect of my personality to continue. That's almost ad hominem, because if I did continue the argument here you'd just claim I was some sort of an attention whore trying to justify a purchase.

Feb 8, 2011 12:38 AM by no-thanks

Onibokusu said:
We're getting to the point of you're being you, and I'm being me. The dark lining is hardly comparable to slight aliasing or warpsharping.
Maybe you're right. It's hardly comparable since it sticks out like a sore thumb more.

Onibokusu said:

Have you ever considered that the dark lines were like that in the first place and it was originally an error that caused them to not be as dark? (Similar to the Blu-Ray release of Serial Experiments Lain, wherein the off-colour look of the anime was caused by an encoding error when they were authoring the DVDs). Like, perhaps, the original releases were actually brighter than they were supposed to be. All we're doing here is speculating, both you and I.
Well, if it is, then it still looks shitty :) And then if it is, I do need to give ufotable less respect for keeping a terrible master with horrrible, unnaturally thick lines with severe aliasing on many parts instead of doing a remaster/reanimation. Though, anyway, any encoder who have used plenty Avisynth filters can see they run a line darkener, what with the severe aliasing problems on some scenes, and unnatural thick lines (unless, you're going to speculate that those lines with severe aliasing problem and unnatural thick lines are in the master, which makes the master pretty shitty and in dire need of remastering/reanimating). At the very least they can do if they're gonna use a line darkener, is to limit the maximum thickness, and use some supersampling.

Onibokusu said:
Because brightening the footage and thinning out the lines also effects the entire film, thus making darker scenes and animation that is supposed to have thick lining look off as well. I checked out the most popular Kara no Kyoukai encode that has the filters in it that you specified.
Certainly not. As I said, the line darkening filter is also applied globally, thus it also affects the entire film, so those thick lines you mentioned most likely aren't that thick in the master anyway. Oh, and what I mentioned earlier, it doesn't "brighten" the image, it sharpens them, where bright colors are brighter and dark colors are darker. Most likely LSF or something similar, or maybe supersampled Unfilter. And I believe that 'sharper' was one of your arguments why the BD looks better than the DVD, no? Of course, it's not "true to the source", if that's the type of person you are, but I'd bet the Blu Ray itself doesn't look anything like the master.

And, you might want to learn things a little bit. Reason why Q-tec is so hated is not because they upscale the video as is, it's because they also tend to use excessive warpsharpening and denoiser that lines and background details are lost in the process. So yeah, Q-tec does use filtering, unlike what you claim earlier. In this case though, it seems the upscaling process doesn't use warpsharen nor heavy denoiser, but in exchange it uses excessive linedarkening without supersampling, which results in the eye-cancer.

Am I speculating? Maybe, but so do you. At the very least, with me speculating I can get something that looks better, and doesn't cost me $400. Of course my speculation is based on my eyes and my encoding experience. But it seems like several highly experienced encoders agree with me though. Not that it makes it 100% correct, but certainly more reliable.

Onibokusu said:

You're too right, I do have quite a collection. Although I don't see how you'd think I'd wasted it, considering I can make that money again. I did spend that $400 with the purpose of buying Kara no Kyoukai, unlike you who is seeing it as just spending $400 (thus, for you, it has no purpose and is merely $400).
Because there's no way I have another collection you don't know of that I might spent that $400 on? Though really, if all this encoding stuff you mentioned is just an attempt to make yourself feel good about your purchase, then by all means think so. After all, who am I to force you to dislike those unnaturally thick, aliased lines? If you like it, good for you. I will still have something that look better in my eyes anyway, and can still spend that $400 on something else.

Mind continuing on my profile? This really gets off-topic, unless for some reason you want to be an attention-whore and show everyone just how much your knowledge and just how true you are about the great QUALITY of this BD.

Feb 7, 2011 11:25 PM by RedSuisei

I think the two of you having an intelligent conversation drove out the entitlement losers. I approve.

Feb 7, 2011 9:05 PM by kkslider5552000

RedSuisei said:
Not only stills, slow-motion scenes are still pretty noticable. Heck, even other videos with slight aliasing or warpsharping can be noticed pretty clearly, so I don't see why you think terribly thickened lines like here won't be noticeable. I did get a BDMV, and seen that it is indeed quite noticeable.


We're getting to the point of you're being you, and I'm being me. The dark lining is hardly comparable to slight aliasing or warpsharping.

Of course it's not, it's an upscaling process, which also includes several filters added to make video look 'better.' Otherwise, how would you explain the terrible line darkening? As far as I've seen, even resizing 480p to 1080p with Spline36, although it does look more blurry and has ringing introduced to it, doesn't make the line thicker. And while it's true that filtering to fix the line darkening applies to the whole movie, filtering to do the line darkening in the first place also applies to the whole movie.


Have you ever considered that the dark lines were like that in the first place and it was originally an error that caused them to not be as dark? (Similar to the Blu-Ray release of Serial Experiments Lain, wherein the off-colour look of the anime was caused by an encoding error when they were authoring the DVDs). Like, perhaps, the original releases were actually brighter than they were supposed to be. All we're doing here is speculating, both you and I.

Not really, I've seen several motion scenes on it. And unless for the really fast-moving action scenes, the botched lines are pretty noticeable. And I can't really see how it is valid to use against me, since I've pretty much explained that there are scenes with pretty noticeable bad lines.


Because brightening the footage and thinning out the lines also effects the entire film, thus making darker scenes and animation that is supposed to have thick lining look off as well. I checked out the most popular Kara no Kyoukai encode that has the filters in it that you specified.

Does that change that I can do a lot more with it?


No, it doesn't. But it doesn't change the fact that I spent, not wasted, $400 on a Blu-Ray boxset of Kara no Kyoukai with the purpose of watching Kara no Kyoukai in HD on my Blu-Ray player. I already own a PS3 and a separate Blu-Ray player.

As far as justification goes, it IS a personal thing, so I guess you can be happy with what you purchased since you can justify it, and I can laugh at you since you just waste $400 (or however much is it you spent for it) while I still got that cash saved for something more justifiable. You can also laugh at me for not having such an expensive collection though, no problem.


You're too right, I do have quite a collection. Although I don't see how you'd think I'd wasted it, considering I can make that money again. I did spend that $400 with the purpose of buying Kara no Kyoukai, unlike you who is seeing it as just spending $400 (thus, for you, it has no purpose and is merely $400).

Feb 7, 2011 8:28 PM by no-thanks

Onibokusu said:
But the dark lining is hardly noticable, because when you've seen the dark lining you're only looking at stills. Have you viewed a continuous scene from the Blu-Ray set? They aren't that noticable.
Not only stills, slow-motion scenes are still pretty noticable. Heck, even other videos with slight aliasing or warpsharping can be noticed pretty clearly, so I don't see why you think terribly thickened lines like here won't be noticeable. I did get a BDMV, and seen that it is indeed quite noticeable.

Onibokusu said:
Q-TEC isn't a filtering process. More so, adding filters to correct certain small issues in certain scenes can lead to issues being present in other scenes. Remember, the encoder is filtering the entirety of the films.
Of course it's not, it's an upscaling process, which also includes several filters added to make video look 'better.' Otherwise, how would you explain the terrible line darkening? As far as I've seen, even resizing 480p to 1080p with Spline36, although it does look more blurry and has ringing introduced to it, doesn't make the line thicker. And while it's true that filtering to fix the line darkening applies to the whole movie, filtering to do the line darkening in the first place also applies to the whole movie.

Onibokusu said:

I have also dealt in encoding a fair bit myself. A/V is somewhat of an interest of mine. You're basing your entire argument on a small selection of stills, then trying to judge the entire set based upon those few frames.

True, my quote is indeed a double-edged sword, however it's still a very valid counter-point to your semantics.
Not really, I've seen several motion scenes on it. And unless for the really fast-moving action scenes, the botched lines are pretty noticeable. And I can't really see how it is valid to use against me, since I've pretty much explained that there are scenes with pretty noticeable bad lines.

Onibokusu said:

Apples and oranges mate, apples and oranges. They serve completely different purposes, don't forget that.
Does that change that I can do a lot more with it?

As far as justification goes, it IS a personal thing, so I guess you can be happy with what you purchased since you can justify it, and I can laugh at you since you just waste $400 (or however much is it you spent for it) while I still got that cash saved for something more justifiable. You can also laugh at me for not having such an expensive collection though, no problem.

Feb 7, 2011 7:21 PM by RedSuisei

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