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Sep 28, 4:12 PM
#1
I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity. Why is that so? I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon? |
Sep 28, 4:28 PM
#2
Sep 28, 4:34 PM
#3
Boobs and ass needs to be in the same proportion. It'd be very strange for a character to have a small chest but big ass. |
Sep 28, 4:46 PM
#4
Reply to Hiyajo-san
Mhhh weird. I kinda expected a Catalano thread based on the title.
@Hiyajo-san same, I was surprised to see thewiru make an actually normal post |
Sep 28, 4:54 PM
#5
Big breasts are more common in Japan. Also, push up and "assisted" bras are more common than ass-padding. Also, you see accentuated cleavage from the front, when you're talking to a woman. Ass is something you only appreciate in certain contexts, usually only actively during sex or when you're creeping on someone (not socialising with them). Mostly these reasons. |
Sep 28, 4:55 PM
#6
There is also the general belief that "Why is that part even considered sexy, you know a human's waste comes out of that right?" Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them. |
KruszerSep 28, 5:00 PM
Sep 28, 5:15 PM
#7
Reply to Hiyajo-san
Mhhh weird. I kinda expected a Catalano thread based on the title.
@Hiyajo-san More like IpreferEcchi thread. |
Sep 28, 5:17 PM
#8
Reply to awesomeoppy
@Hiyajo-san same, I was surprised to see thewiru make an actually normal post
@awesomeoppy You call this a normal post? |
Sep 28, 5:19 PM
#9
Reply to Kruszer
There is also the general belief that "Why is that part even considered sexy, you know a human's waste comes out of that right?"
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
@Kruszer Not really a concern in Japan. Vaginas also produce *a hell of a lot of waste* and I don't just mean urination. Or periods, for that matter. And those are all massive fetishes here, so it's not something that'd cause enough of a problem to make it a cultural "no-no". |
Sep 28, 5:26 PM
#10
yuhamk said: You call this a normal post? exactly my thoughts LifelineByNature said: Also, you see accentuated cleavage from the front, when you're talking to a woman. Ass is something you only appreciate in certain contexts, usually only actively during sex or when you're creeping on someone (not socialising with them). Okay that actually makes sense. So if i prefer to talk more, i'll naturally prefer to boobas. And if horny thoughts is more dominant, i'll aim for the ass. |
Sep 28, 5:41 PM
#11
The Cutie honey op about woman talks about how the girls that are on fashion now are "oshiri no chiisana no onna no ko" (girls with small asses) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qllc2bYRFY4 And then she goes into talking about puffed up boing making some signals. I recommend watching it, because Koda Kumi is hot. I think it does not explain japanese have some preferences, but looking at Koda Kumi, should explain everything empirically. (Also it is not creep to check a girl ass in the distance. Just do it discreetly, avoid touching strangers) |
Sep 28, 5:44 PM
#12
I think ass used to be more of a focus, but restrictive airing standards caused a cutback on ass/pantyshots. You can't hide large tits easily since it is under the face which is needed to animate and show for expressions. This is why tits are more of a focus, and because genitals are taboo, but nipples are not. |
Sep 28, 6:02 PM
#13
Reply to Kruszer
There is also the general belief that "Why is that part even considered sexy, you know a human's waste comes out of that right?"
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
Kruszer said: Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them. I see you are not well versed in hentai. |
Sep 28, 6:04 PM
#14
thewiru said: with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity. To your point, that's why I'm considering watching this anime. It looks incredibly boring, but the black-haired teacher's ass (I don't even know or care about her name) is simply phenomenal. Only fellow gooners will understand. |
What's the difference? |
Sep 28, 6:15 PM
#15
Reply to rohan121
I think ass used to be more of a focus, but restrictive airing standards caused a cutback on ass/pantyshots. You can't hide large tits easily since it is under the face which is needed to animate and show for expressions. This is why tits are more of a focus, and because genitals are taboo, but nipples are not.
@rohan121 True. The last Strike Witches (Luminous Witches) cut out all ass shots, which is pretty much a staple of the franchise's ecchi moments. All scenes where there could be an ass shot, it's either with the girl's wearing tights or their tails or guns cover their ass. |
"Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
Sep 28, 6:22 PM
#16
Hiyajo-san said: yeah like how the hell was this not Catalano. Was expecting him or that weirdo called @ComeInReiAsuka or sthMhhh weird. I kinda expected a Catalano thread based on the title. |
Sep 28, 6:33 PM
#17
Reply to yuhamk
Kruszer said:
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
Boobs (or almost any other part of the female body) can at least be appreciated for that fact nobody defecates out out of them.
I see you are not well versed in hentai.
@yuhamk Oh, I don't know about that. I think I've got it down to a science at this point. |
Sep 28, 6:38 PM
#18
Sep 28, 6:45 PM
#19
Sep 28, 6:59 PM
#20
Reply to Hiyajo-san
Mhhh weird. I kinda expected a Catalano thread based on the title.
@Hiyajo-san I mean, have you ever seen them both in the same room? Very sus. |
Sep 28, 8:04 PM
#21
Reply to yuhamk
@yuhamk have you seen any of this guy's other posts? this is way better than those. Also for this website this post is pretty normal I think |
Sep 28, 8:37 PM
#22
Animating ass that looks really nice can be much more difficult and take more effort than tits. I don't really have any hard data or evidence on this it's mostly anecdotal, but making an ass look prime can require nice shading, and is more affected by thighs, hips and waist, it overall just requires more effort to detail. Majority of the time anime won't actually show nipples so tits can just look appealing without having to do as much, but when they do show nipples and the tits are actually out it's really easy to see the same differences of well drawn/animated tits and lazy ones. |
Sep 28, 8:51 PM
#23
Ahhh my two favorite words! Wait what were we talking about again? |
Sep 28, 10:37 PM
#24
anime girls have boobs and asses... |
Sep 28, 11:16 PM
#25
"I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare" Boob people will notice boobs, ass people will notice asses...so it really depends on who you ask. For example I am not that hyper-focused on certain parts. Let's take Momo, Seiko and Aira from DanDaDan. They are all beautiful. Seiko having the biggest boobs and ass doesn't give her advantages. Doesn't disqualify her either. |
alshuSep 28, 11:46 PM
Sep 28, 11:19 PM
#26
thewiru said: You had to look at Keijo to understand that Asian women are smaller? Kay.....I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon? It's pretty simple Wiru, I guarantee you more guys care about boobs than butts. Now I like both, however, even in the case I still like boobs more. |
Sep 28, 11:46 PM
#27
Simply a reflection of what the people want more of. Even the ass guys secretly prefer boobs. |
Sep 29, 1:28 AM
#28
I guess boobs are more "presentable" than buttocks, because they are higher up and in front. Anyway: Thighs > Butt > Boobs |
No, this isn't my signature. |
Sep 29, 3:39 AM
#29
Reply to yuhamk
yuhamk said: More like IpreferEcchi thread. Nah, he phrases titles very differently. yuhamk said: You call this a normal post? By thewiru standards? Yes. |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 29, 3:53 AM
#30
thewiru said: I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity. Why is that so? I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon? Shit like "Keijo!!!!!!!!" is fun and all, but using it to explain Japanese anatomy is like using "Dragon Ball" to study real-world physics. lol Anime focuses on boobs because they’re easier to exaggerate, easier to animate, and historically coded as the go-to fanservice trope noticed the more one consumes shit in this medium. Glutes exist, sure, but anatomy isn’t driving the trend. It all boils down to artistic style and cultural taste, from what I have seen. The same shit can be said about fucking panties in Anime. Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media. |
ColourWheelSep 29, 4:12 AM
Sep 29, 4:33 AM
#31
Such a shame tho, small boobs are also good, but a flat ass is always bad. |
Sep 29, 4:54 AM
#32
Sep 29, 4:56 AM
#33
ComeTail said: It'd be very strange for a character to have a small chest but big ass. guess you haven't been watching Dainanaoji |
Sep 29, 6:26 AM
#34
Reply to ColourWheel
thewiru said:
I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity.
Why is that so?
I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon?
I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity.
Why is that so?
I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon?
Shit like "Keijo!!!!!!!!" is fun and all, but using it to explain Japanese anatomy is like using "Dragon Ball" to study real-world physics. lol
Anime focuses on boobs because they’re easier to exaggerate, easier to animate, and historically coded as the go-to fanservice trope noticed the more one consumes shit in this medium. Glutes exist, sure, but anatomy isn’t driving the trend. It all boils down to artistic style and cultural taste, from what I have seen.
The same shit can be said about fucking panties in Anime. Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
MasterTasukeSep 29, 6:29 AM
Sep 29, 6:31 AM
#35
ColourWheel said: Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media. This is why Japan is the best country in the world. I wish the whole world was like Japan. |
Sep 29, 12:09 PM
#36
Reply to IpreferEcchi
ColourWheel said:
Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
This is why Japan is the best country in the world.
I wish the whole world was like Japan.
@IpreferEcchi ...where did you even find Elsa ryona for that pic/sign, lol? |
Sep 29, 12:11 PM
#37
Reply to IpreferEcchi
ColourWheel said:
Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
This is why Japan is the best country in the world.
I wish the whole world was like Japan.
@IpreferEcchi You want everyone to be weird/creepy peeping toms? IDK personally I just would rather full frontal consenting nudity......which Japan doesn't have....that's just me though. |
Sep 29, 12:36 PM
#38
Reply to BilboBaggins365
@IpreferEcchi You want everyone to be weird/creepy peeping toms? IDK personally I just would rather full frontal consenting nudity......which Japan doesn't have....that's just me though.
@BilboBaggins365 What you would rather is invalidated because you're writing a unique opinion as someone from Maple Leaf country. My opinion is that the world must exactly emulate Japan, not proposing my own non-Japanese take on it. thewiru said: ...where did you even find Elsa ryona for that pic/sign, lol? It's on the first page of results for her name in Japanese when searching for art on pixiv. And it's AI generated. |
Sep 29, 12:42 PM
#39
Panty-shots are a complete antonym to ass-appreaciation. Ruri no Houseki's chick from all of the fanarts i saw. They all had flat ass and were accentuating her boobs from the front. Just another way of anime being in a mode of old order thinking |
Sep 29, 12:45 PM
#40
Reply to ColourWheel
thewiru said:
I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity.
Why is that so?
I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon?
I've been reading some discussions lately, and people have been arriving at the conclusion that anime is a "boob medium", with focus on ass being rare, and usually not the best, making stuff such as Ruri no Houseki and exception and a rarity.
Why is that so?
I learned by reading/watching Keijo!!!!!!!! that Japanese women have smaller/flatter asses in general due to a difference in bone structure, but is this enough to explain this phenomenon?
Shit like "Keijo!!!!!!!!" is fun and all, but using it to explain Japanese anatomy is like using "Dragon Ball" to study real-world physics. lol
Anime focuses on boobs because they’re easier to exaggerate, easier to animate, and historically coded as the go-to fanservice trope noticed the more one consumes shit in this medium. Glutes exist, sure, but anatomy isn’t driving the trend. It all boils down to artistic style and cultural taste, from what I have seen.
The same shit can be said about fucking panties in Anime. Japanese culture doesn't find shit like that taboo to be showing short incidental glimpses of a women's panties in general media entertainment, even in live action media.
@ColourWheel Glutes are great indeed, however I learned of the existence of BBL, and that's the second biggest nightmare fuel I have ever seen. |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 29, 12:55 PM
#41
IpreferEcchi said: This is why Japan is the best country in the world. I wish the whole world was like Japan. I wouldn't go as far as to say the best country in the world. But sure does make their general entertainment more cheeky than western entertainment. lol Though, this shouldn't be confused with real life. Media entertainment is fiction. Where women in Japan aren't just going around flashing their panties all over the place. lol Much like in public, women don't go around just grabbing each other breast either. One will find more public affection and people touching each other in public more in the West in real life than anywhere in Japan. lol JaniSIr said: @ColourWheel Glutes are great indeed, however I learned of the existence of BBL, and that's the second biggest nightmare fuel I have ever seen. Yeah, that’s more a Western exaggeration though. Japanese Anime doesn’t really touch that kind of look. Their "ideal" tends seem to stay stylized, not shit like surgically enhanced. lol Japan is not like South Korea, where even fucking men will get cosmetic surgery just for the fuck of it. lol Cosmetic surgery isn't a one-and-done thing either, one needs to keep that shit maintained or it starts to fall apart (like Michael Jackson's face) and much like women who get breast implants... They start to really sag and look distorted over time because women don't usually keep dumping money on their breast to maintain them (because that shit is expensive). South Korea is likely the reason why many Westerners think Asian men and women have extremely attractive faces even in their middle ages. Where a stereotypical view I have seen people share in the West is that Asian men and women don't start to show extreme signs of aging till they hit 55+. lol |
ColourWheelSep 29, 1:51 PM
Sep 29, 1:05 PM
#42
pretty much, whenever a butt is shown, it's just whenever the girl is naked and the butt never gets any focus. They're often just a line. However i do remember a few girls with a fat ass. Elfuda, Kuroeda and Maribelle. Chun Li in the shower scene, but that's expected since her fetish design is just thick juicy thighs |
My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
Sep 29, 1:43 PM
#43
Stop farming interactions on the internet and figure it out yourself^^ |
Sep 29, 1:59 PM
#44
Reply to ColourWheel
IpreferEcchi said:
This is why Japan is the best country in the world.
I wish the whole world was like Japan.
This is why Japan is the best country in the world.
I wish the whole world was like Japan.
I wouldn't go as far as to say the best country in the world. But sure does make their general entertainment more cheeky than western entertainment. lol
Though, this shouldn't be confused with real life. Media entertainment is fiction. Where women in Japan aren't just going around flashing their panties all over the place. lol
Much like in public, women don't go around just grabbing each other breast either. One will find more public affection and people touching each other in public more in the West in real life than anywhere in Japan. lol
JaniSIr said:
@ColourWheel Glutes are great indeed, however I learned of the existence of BBL, and that's the second biggest nightmare fuel I have ever seen.
@ColourWheel Glutes are great indeed, however I learned of the existence of BBL, and that's the second biggest nightmare fuel I have ever seen.
Yeah, that’s more a Western exaggeration though. Japanese Anime doesn’t really touch that kind of look. Their "ideal" tends seem to stay stylized, not shit like surgically enhanced. lol
Japan is not like South Korea, where even fucking men will get cosmetic surgery just for the fuck of it. lol
Cosmetic surgery isn't a one-and-done thing either, one needs to keep that shit maintained or it starts to fall apart (like Michael Jackson's face) and much like women who get breast implants... They start to really sag and look distorted over time because women don't usually keep dumping money on their breast to maintain them (because that shit is expensive).
South Korea is likely the reason why many Westerners think Asian men and women have extremely attractive faces even in their middle ages. Where a stereotypical view I have seen people share in the West is that Asian men and women don't start to show extreme signs of aging till they hit 55+. lol
@ColourWheel I heard of a plastic surgery where they cut their calf tendons to get smaller legs via atrophy... Like why! |
Kimochi Warui |
Sep 29, 2:35 PM
#45
JaniSIr said: @ColourWheel I heard of a plastic surgery where they cut their calf tendons to get smaller legs via atrophy... Like why! I have no clue why some people do what they do. lol I have had cosmetic surgery on my face but it wasn't due to wanting to make my face look more beautiful or some shit like that. I was randomly assaulted when I was a teen in the early 90s due to some weird street gang initiation. I was basically jumped by a half a dozen dudes that dragged me into a back alley and started taking sucker punches to my face one by one and as hard as they could while being pinned against a brick wall. I had to get my jaw restructured back then and have a scar above my eye to this day. Even have a titanium plate in my skull because every time I was being hit my head was being rammed against the brick wall apparently splitting my head open. If i didn't get my jaw once in a while maintained, the joints holding it together would have likely started to fall out of place. Just a few years ago I had to have it reconstructed again and even bi-yearly still have to see an endodontist for complications of the roots of my teeth occasionally getting infected. But it's amazing what people can do with surgery these days... back in the 90s i still had to deal with pain from time to time when trying to eat food that wasn't soft. Till late 90s when new advancements seem to have come out of nowhere. The 2nd surgery I had in the late 90s basically made my jaw feel like new. After that I can eat shit like hard candy and not even flinch anymore. But if one looks at me today, they wouldn't be able to tell anything was wrong, only visible scar on my face is a just right above my eye slashing through part of my eyebrow. So you can see how that shit can be expensive too. Just the work done on my jaw, probably over 250,000+ USDs have been dumped into the reconstruction and maintenance over the years alone. And as time goes by and the older I get, it just gets more expensive. Thankfully I am not poor in the slightest. lol |
ColourWheelSep 29, 3:11 PM
Sep 29, 2:55 PM
#46
Personality and nature are the best. Edit: look at for example gintama ending 19, this is an example how to do proper fan service without showing any skin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=425suicslao |
jacobPOLSep 29, 2:59 PM
Greatest shitposter under the heavens. |
Sep 29, 2:56 PM
#47
The thing to understand is that the model for an attractive anime butt is not an average Japanese woman butt, but the butt of a junior idol. Anime girl butts are designed to look like those which are obviously not as big as possible |
Sep 29, 3:01 PM
#48
Reply to butahime
The thing to understand is that the model for an attractive anime butt is not an average Japanese woman butt, but the butt of a junior idol. Anime girl butts are designed to look like those which are obviously not as big as possible
@butahime Explain me the differences (I'm a visual learner). |
Sep 29, 3:46 PM
#49
Reply to IpreferEcchi
@BilboBaggins365
What you would rather is invalidated because you're writing a unique opinion as someone from Maple Leaf country.
My opinion is that the world must exactly emulate Japan, not proposing my own non-Japanese take on it.
It's on the first page of results for her name in Japanese when searching for art on pixiv.
And it's AI generated.
What you would rather is invalidated because you're writing a unique opinion as someone from Maple Leaf country.
My opinion is that the world must exactly emulate Japan, not proposing my own non-Japanese take on it.
thewiru said:
...where did you even find Elsa ryona for that pic/sign, lol?
...where did you even find Elsa ryona for that pic/sign, lol?
It's on the first page of results for her name in Japanese when searching for art on pixiv.
And it's AI generated.
IpreferEcchi said: I am sorry you have a bias, however, I am not going to engage in ad homins with someone who insults a nationality, yet doesn't bother posting their own. I am not some super patriot....still whatever dirt hole you are from, probably sucks in some way, and yes, even sacred Japan sucks in a lot of ways. What you would rather is invalidated because you're writing a unique opinion as someone from Maple Leaf country. IpreferEcchi said: Yeah I don't want censorship on my porn, thank you very much. Japan should adopt, if anything, my morals, and give rid of that dumb shit.My opinion is that the world must exactly emulate Japan, not proposing my own non-Japanese take on it. |
BilboBaggins365Sep 29, 4:01 PM
Sep 29, 4:26 PM
#50
Reply to ColourWheel
JaniSIr said:
@ColourWheel I heard of a plastic surgery where they cut their calf tendons to get smaller legs via atrophy... Like why!
@ColourWheel I heard of a plastic surgery where they cut their calf tendons to get smaller legs via atrophy... Like why!
I have no clue why some people do what they do. lol
I have had cosmetic surgery on my face but it wasn't due to wanting to make my face look more beautiful or some shit like that. I was randomly assaulted when I was a teen in the early 90s due to some weird street gang initiation. I was basically jumped by a half a dozen dudes that dragged me into a back alley and started taking sucker punches to my face one by one and as hard as they could while being pinned against a brick wall. I had to get my jaw restructured back then and have a scar above my eye to this day. Even have a titanium plate in my skull because every time I was being hit my head was being rammed against the brick wall apparently splitting my head open.
If i didn't get my jaw once in a while maintained, the joints holding it together would have likely started to fall out of place. Just a few years ago I had to have it reconstructed again and even bi-yearly still have to see an endodontist for complications of the roots of my teeth occasionally getting infected.
But it's amazing what people can do with surgery these days... back in the 90s i still had to deal with pain from time to time when trying to eat food that wasn't soft. Till late 90s when new advancements seem to have come out of nowhere. The 2nd surgery I had in the late 90s basically made my jaw feel like new. After that I can eat shit like hard candy and not even flinch anymore.
But if one looks at me today, they wouldn't be able to tell anything was wrong, only visible scar on my face is a just right above my eye slashing through part of my eyebrow.
So you can see how that shit can be expensive too. Just the work done on my jaw, probably over 250,000+ USDs have been dumped into the reconstruction and maintenance over the years alone. And as time goes by and the older I get, it just gets more expensive. Thankfully I am not poor in the slightest. lol
@ColourWheel Vanity I suppose, I can't relate. Especially why would you do a surgery that was banned due to the high complication rate, so you have to fly abroad to some sketchy clinic, with probably fake license... I had a minor surgery once, and I absolutely hated how I couldn't move properly for weeks... Well, money well spent I guess, can't afford to not have a jaw. |
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