Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka V: Houjou no Megami-hen Episode 4 Discussion
Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? (light novel)
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| Well, Bell didn't get his sexy time with Syr but seriously, Danmachi on TV was never going to do that. They did still sleep on the same bed though. Unfortunately, this episode wasn't all happiness with Hogini entering to attack Bell. And the bigger revelation is "Syr" being revealed as Freya who made her decision to make Bell "hers". How interesting really but I think they did a decent job at highlighting their relationship this season so far. |
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| Major cliffhanger. Episode was pretty frustrating especially the start with Bell being a coward. If you don't want it say it straight from the start this was just insulting her. Tho i have to give him credit for properly rejecting her at the end. And a lot was going on i hope the girls from the restaurant are alright. It's also clear that Freya is making her move and the question is how will this end. |
AversaOct 24, 2024 6:47 AM
| Yeah, no surprises there that Ryuu is out of it because of what's happening lmao. But for her to get body slammed like that... why. Hasn't she lost enough this season? But my god, this episode went fucking hard. I mean, yeah it was one thing the animation went up for a second, but that confession, AND THAT PLOT TWIST??? One of the BEST DanMachi episodes EVER. |
IzanaSolosOct 24, 2024 7:03 AM
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| Not that I’ve really cared too much about Danmachi as a whole, but the pacing seems so weird for this season it makes things a lot more convoluted than I figure the source material told it otherwise. Not like it’s really matters..feels like most of the drama feels so forced to begin with. Not stating in literal terms, but it’s like every story arc has been the same structure, same formula, same destination, etc. |
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| Im a bit lost, we have Horn, Freya and Syr. We have seen Freya and Syr at the same time speaking to each other. So who is who now? Was Horn impersonating Freya or Syr at any time before this? Can someone explain please? |
| What a situation to be in for Bell though. The dark elf's contrast though was amusing. But his skill was no joke. As seen with how he beat Ryu that easily. Horn though really is a piece of work though. And now on to part 2 of the arc. |
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| Syr: I love you, Bell Bell: I love Emilia This was literally what I had in mind at first. |
真姫ちゃん！ 何が好き？ トマト よりも あ･な･た♡  |
| a bit confusing coz i didn't read the LN |
Reply to Saito66
Im a bit lost, we have Horn, Freya and Syr. We have seen Freya and Syr at the same time speaking to each other. So who is who now? Was Horn impersonating Freya or Syr at any time before this? Can someone explain please?
| @Saito66 Syr is Freya. |
CrazyFrogzOct 24, 2024 8:10 AM
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| She’s gone mad. She is now taking things into her own hands by force possibly. She’s going to pay the price if she doesn’t it the wrong way. |
Reply to CrazyFrogz
@Saito66 Syr is Freya.
| @CrazyFrogz Thank you She basically deceived Bell the whole time with a fake sweet personality, or was that genuine? |
| wait what?... syr wasnt syr but a new character "horn" who is connected to freya and is actually syr. i thought horn did this to get rid off syr (by pretending to be her) but then syr said she was behind the whole thing but then the real syr wasnt syr but freya herself??? did the syr bell knew ever exist or was it always freya? okay thinking about it again the syr we knew was freya and the actual syr is "horn" which is one of freyas names which makes horn and freya connected in a way. from another comment here it seems |
HiljainenSipuliOct 24, 2024 8:28 AM
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Reply to Saito66
@CrazyFrogz
Thank you
Thank you
She basically deceived Bell the whole time with a fake sweet personality, or was that genuine?
| @Saito66 Freya already using Syr personality even before Bell reach Orario. Remember that Freya/Syr saving Ryu after she lose all her guildmate. Her Syr personality not fake and Freiya not evil she just really really really love Bell and willing to do anything to get him. In last episode Freya familiar said that if Bell died, Freya will kill herself and follow Bell soul in the heaven. |
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| Syr was Freya all along, my best girl became my best girl all over again yo! Crazy twist and loved the confession. Why did he reject her bruh, is he stupid? No matter though, Freya about to wage a war to get him. |
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| Freya best girl. Now everything makes sense. Here's an explanation for those who are confused. |
MavuikaOct 24, 2024 12:16 PM
| Best adapted episode so far and we even got some real good animation in some bits which Damachi rarely gets from JC Staff. Removing the OP and ED was necessary to cram all that content in, but I really disliked that the exchange with Hermes/Hestia and Ais present was cut like that. And Asfi wasn't even in it too. @AP24 She takes to the next level. Even other elves think she's a bit of a prude |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Reply to Saito66
Im a bit lost, we have Horn, Freya and Syr. We have seen Freya and Syr at the same time speaking to each other. So who is who now? Was Horn impersonating Freya or Syr at any time before this? Can someone explain please?
| @Saito66 that Syr in front of Freya was Horn in disguise in the goddess's behalf, I believe. She betting on whether Bell saw through 'her lies' is a hint. I was a little confused at first, but now the dots are connected. Another reason for why Hestia never caught a glimspe of the waitress is because Syr is a goddess herself. @ReynaldyKwok, there may have been 3 Syr or there's no Syr in the first place.  |
SgtBateManOct 24, 2024 9:52 AM
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| *insert Spider-Man pointing Spider-Man meme* |
| I already guessed |
Reply to ReynaldyKwok
From this episode alone, I get that Syr that we know is actually Freya and vice versa. Got it.
But then on the previous episodes(I forgot which episode), there's a scene where Syr asked for a permission to Freya to date Bell but doesn't allow Syr to reveal her identity. So basically 3 Syr? Else it doesn't make sense that Syr(Freya) asked Freya(Syr) for permission? I don't get it someone please explain me if you even have to spoil it...
But then on the previous episodes(I forgot which episode), there's a scene where Syr asked for a permission to Freya to date Bell but doesn't allow Syr to reveal her identity. So basically 3 Syr? Else it doesn't make sense that Syr(Freya) asked Freya(Syr) for permission? I don't get it someone please explain me if you even have to spoil it...
| @ReynaldyKwok That is Horn in Syr disguise to making bet with Freya. Freya took day1 and Horn took day2 in the morning, both trying to win his love but Horn want to kill Bell instead. |
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| bell was actually mature at the end, i love that |
| Well, the video and audio were out of sync or missing in several parts on HIDIVE. Funny that the chuunyi elf sounded so much like Subaru whining, when Bell seemed to have an "I love Emilia" moment at the end. It would have been hilarious if he said "I love Ais" |
| what a shocking ep , i thought it would be a slow season , but damn it is going fire with this imposter plots , i was so intrigued cant wait for more eps |
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| I thought Syr was another norse goddess and was competing with Freya over Bell. Wasn't expecting her to actually be Freya and Syr was simply a fake persona. |
| ohh boi how to even untangle this mess, at least Ryuu doesn't have to worry anymore |
| Wow and just like that, they ruin one of my favorite characters in the show. She tricked him this whole time, feels no remorse, and now she will try to take him by force, selfish to the very end. So disappointing. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Reply to AkeZZZ
Syr: I love you, Bell
Bell: I love Emilia
This was literally what I had in mind at first.
Bell: I love Emilia
This was literally what I had in mind at first.
| @AkeZZZ I hoped he would say Ryu 😅 |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| Incredible episode, one of the best Danmachi episodes I’ve seen. JC staff have an insane workload this season but they’re not compromising on quality at all. Wow where to start with this one. First half of the episode had me thinking we’d just get more Bell and Syr date stuff, that nighttime cuddle scene was absolutely adorable. Bell seen Syr thighs and started stuttering n shit lmaoo. But I KNEW there was a dark cloud hanging over this whole little mini arc. As much as I love her, Syr was way too desperate to get with bell. Almost as if she was in a race against the clock. The whole second half of the episode had my jaw on the floor cause when the Freya familia pulled up to try and kill “Syr” I’m like wtf weren’t they just protecting her? Then that AMAZING Ryu vs Hogni fight, ouch for Ryu btw.. but everything after that was just insane. So I’m totally confused with the ending. If Syr is Freya, why was Freya talking to herself a couple episodes ago when Syr asked if she could take Bell on a date? And what’s the deal with the Syr imposter sharing a psyche with Freya?? This is shaping up to be just as good as the Juggernaut arc I’m so hype |
Marinate1016Oct 24, 2024 3:00 PM
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erpege said: @Marinate1016 Did she tho? While I can agree Syr/Freya is way more interesting than the annoyance that are Hestia and Lili and the boring drying paint that is Wallen-Whatever the fuck her name is. I still think she has a a bit to go until she has a better showing than Haruhime (in her season) and is nowhere near to how good and interesting Ryu's character/story was last season. At least for me, I'd currently rank her at 3rd place from the "main" girls. We'll see how the season goes tho, that can always change Yea she did that’s why I said it. |
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| So Horn is no more (have been killed) or incarcerated? |
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| quite a peak danmachi episode. bell our lil virgin party pooper like always but gotta respect his dedication fr (PLEASE DONT REJECT RYUU LIKE THAT). tachibana sb and Mori ed, no wonder jc staff cooked with the animation (and overall eps so far), they really do love danmachi. norn was so obsessed and freya/syr about to crashout so bad, Bell won't know what hit him—bunch of psychos fr.  unreal quality |
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damn ryoko6Oct 24, 2024 12:13 PM
| If Syr was Freya all along. Then why her Freya personality is so cringe? Not yandere but pure cringe. And seems like she is gong to take rejection really hard. Cringe hard. |
| oh my god that ending |
Reply to meliescious
Ok from my understading as anime watcher only. The explanation is simple Syr is Freya all along and she has horn as a double for some case.
When you see Freya that's Freya, when you see Syr that's also Freya. Syr we seen all the time are Freya too, Horn just appear to screen as her only in this episode.
And the screen were both are appear talking at the earlier episode must be to confuse audience and/or they talking about other thing.
When you see Freya that's Freya, when you see Syr that's also Freya. Syr we seen all the time are Freya too, Horn just appear to screen as her only in this episode.
And the screen were both are appear talking at the earlier episode must be to confuse audience and/or they talking about other thing.
| @meliescious Not only in this ep. also at the end of the episode where Freya met fake Syr (Horn) at the Freya Familia palace and said to her: "I'm surprised to see you in this form" or something like that, don't I remember which episode exactly, maybe the 2nd. |
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