Saimatsu_Fan said: Piromysl said: I've already heard about him. Apparently he is a lolcow on both MAL and Twitter, which is something. Overall, he is a walking red flag.  lol i fucking love this image, everyone using it against him was funny, reminded me when cuckjoey was calling ( and is still ) calling anime fans pedos and yet his likes are full of nagatoro porn also look up AsarthaHS video about MT, it's a good laugh A two edged sword i see, he must be a troll. |
PunGood020 said: Saimatsu_Fan said: lol i fucking love this image, everyone using it against him was funny, reminded me when cuckjoey was calling ( and is still ) calling anime fans pedos and yet his likes are full of nagatoro porn also look up AsarthaHS video about MT, it's a good laugh A two edged sword i see, he must be a troll. unfortunately, he and people like moblack and AsarthaHS and Ocenaiz aren't, they genuinely believe what they say |
Reply to R0r5ch4ch
Can we stop arguing over this shit?
I've seen this thread over 20 times by now.
He's flawed, he's human.
If you have a problem with that, drop the anime.
Rudeus isn't even the worst character in the story. If you can't handle it, stop crying about it.
I've seen this thread over 20 times by now.
He's flawed, he's human.
If you have a problem with that, drop the anime.
Rudeus isn't even the worst character in the story. If you can't handle it, stop crying about it.
| @R0r5ch4ch Who is the worst character in the story? |
| @animegamer245 Over here you will see some people calling rudeus realistic. Feel free to argue with them. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| I love it when people simply revive arguments that have been discussed many times over time and try to use them as a “take that!” in a new circle. Dude, by doing this, you won’t prove anything to anyone, you’ll just cause people to have negative emotions towards you due to an obvious attempt to start an old argument again. |
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Reply to Phantomnocomics
@KryzakamiHrybami hmm. i both agree and disagree about this usage of realistic
realisitcally, people like rudeus who are fucked up on the head (installed a camera to spy on his niece in the bathroom to jerk off to her and god knows what was on his computer) either end up on prison or get away with abusing minors. this is especially so with countries like japan where the laws on protection of underage kids are loose and posession of child abuse materials weren't banned till 2014 (they even gave them a year to get rid of it instead of immediately enforcing it lol).
if we are being realistic, the average person in RL who is a shut-in neet who jerk off to underage kids either end up in a cell, hanged, and/or a jankie later on because they are a nolifer. it's rare when someone like this rebounds back to society
he's written to be realistically trash rather than realistically standard.
i also agree that idealistic MCs are insufferable and intoxicating to read/watch a lot of times because they come off as hypocritical a lot of time and not realistic.
i think the better of both worlds would be the best but having either of the two is always a fresh air when u get tired of one then u can have the other.
sorry if this was long to read, my two cents on this.
realisitcally, people like rudeus who are fucked up on the head (installed a camera to spy on his niece in the bathroom to jerk off to her and god knows what was on his computer) either end up on prison or get away with abusing minors. this is especially so with countries like japan where the laws on protection of underage kids are loose and posession of child abuse materials weren't banned till 2014 (they even gave them a year to get rid of it instead of immediately enforcing it lol).
if we are being realistic, the average person in RL who is a shut-in neet who jerk off to underage kids either end up in a cell, hanged, and/or a jankie later on because they are a nolifer. it's rare when someone like this rebounds back to society
he's written to be realistically trash rather than realistically standard.
i also agree that idealistic MCs are insufferable and intoxicating to read/watch a lot of times because they come off as hypocritical a lot of time and not realistic.
i think the better of both worlds would be the best but having either of the two is always a fresh air when u get tired of one then u can have the other.
sorry if this was long to read, my two cents on this.
| @Phantomnocomics Mushoku Tensei never implied Redeus character was anything standard in society, but the emotions he felt and trauma he experienced definitely are psychological issues everyone could face in their lifetime in one way or another. I don't believe it was implied Redeus previous life was common. Despite that, he is still written realistically when considering the selfish and lazy nature of human beings. It's easy to blame on Redeus previous life for his immoral choices he made, but in the end, people around him that time weren't all that morally justifiable with him. Redeus case was one of the echo of society that marginalize people based on our subjective moral standard our society made us want to think. Redeus was broken minded and made some questionable moral choices. Meanwhile, sane people can do questionable moral choices and go away with it because our society conditioned us into thinking there is a boundary and it's fine to be a bad person as long as you stay inside this boundary. Redeus felt outside that boundary so that's why people think he should went to prison. However, everything about that is realistic because those things happen in real life. It's not a standard, but it's here nonetheless. |
Oh boy, notto disu shitto agen. |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
| @animegamer245 I literally posted my own opinion. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
| @animegamer245 That's cause you were complaining about MT and Isekai not being realistic when I never actually mentioned it. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
| @FZREMAKE @animegamer245 it's better u two just agree u differ on your approaches for opinions and call it a day |
| Maybe a defense mechanism against stuff like "You like Mushoku Tensei? You're a creep!" |
| @animegamer245 Rudeus not being realistic is literally my opinion (Its a fact but just for the sake of civil discussion, lets call it my opinion). |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
Reply to Phantomnocomics
@FZREMAKE
@animegamer245
it's better u two just agree u differ on your approaches for opinions and call it a day
@animegamer245
it's better u two just agree u differ on your approaches for opinions and call it a day
| @Phantomnocomics I love arguing on the internet. I am always right btw |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
| I know. If you call him a pervert or a pedo, people get mad as if it wasn't true. In the deleted or changed chapters (then it was probably changed to regular porn) he was jerking off to his niece, in the new world he was cheating, molesting and doing other disgusting things, and people always say 'he doesn't know what he's doing' , ''he's a child'', ''they deserved it because they teased him''''he did it because he had a reason, and besides, he was the one who was taken advantage of'' etc. It's always everyone around who is to blame, just not him. He is the eternal victim. He may want to change, he calls himself trash, but his actions don't show it well. He's probably less of a pervert than he used to be, but that doesn't really improve his character. Do people like him exist? yes, there are a lot of them, but in real life such people are avoided and in anime suddenly everyone likes this type of character |
Reply to mo_lave
Maybe a defense mechanism against stuff like "You like Mushoku Tensei? You're a creep!"
| @mo_lave man, imagine putting yourself in the shoes of someone who cares about the opinions of strangers in the internet on a site full of weebs no less. shiiiiiiiit, i can't even bother to give a fly about people's crap on RL lol. those people who do this are the kind who appeaze anyone and everyone in RL, damn must their life be shit like this |
Reply to Phantomnocomics
@mo_lave man, imagine putting yourself in the shoes of someone who cares about the opinions of strangers in the internet on a site full of weebs no less.
shiiiiiiiit, i can't even bother to give a fly about people's crap on RL lol.
those people who do this are the kind who appeaze anyone and everyone in RL, damn must their life be shit like this
shiiiiiiiit, i can't even bother to give a fly about people's crap on RL lol.
those people who do this are the kind who appeaze anyone and everyone in RL, damn must their life be shit like this
| @Phantomnocomics I wish it is that easy. There are a few things that simply being accused of makes you a pariah and unemployable. |
Reply to Jollyne7
I know. If you call him a pervert or a pedo, people get mad as if it wasn't true. In the deleted or changed chapters (then it was probably changed to regular porn) he was jerking off to his niece, in the new world he was cheating, molesting and doing other disgusting things, and people always say 'he doesn't know what he's doing' , ''he's a child'', ''they deserved it because they teased him''''he did it because he had a reason, and besides, he was the one who was taken advantage of'' etc. It's always everyone around who is to blame, just not him. He is the eternal victim.
He may want to change, he calls himself trash, but his actions don't show it well. He's probably less of a pervert than he used to be, but that doesn't really improve his character. Do people like him exist? yes, there are a lot of them, but in real life such people are avoided and in anime suddenly everyone likes this type of character
He may want to change, he calls himself trash, but his actions don't show it well. He's probably less of a pervert than he used to be, but that doesn't really improve his character. Do people like him exist? yes, there are a lot of them, but in real life such people are avoided and in anime suddenly everyone likes this type of character
| @Jollyne7 suddenly. out of nowhere. superman kissed a child. |
| キターーーー(・∀・)ーーー！！ |
| the diffrence between light and rudeus is that light is still in our modern world, while rudeus has been transported into one that has completely different rules and norms. Especially about killing, slaves and sex. His parents fuck every night loudly, eris's father encourage her to be with rudy, he catches the mayor banging maids, he witnesses someone getting beheaded right in front of him. Etc etc. Im not arguing against that, him being a complete and utter degenerate and pervert, the world hes in is also not the prettiest |
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Zarutaku said: There are lots of errors in your post, I fixed them for you: Why do people defend attack Rudeus? I don't understand why people, when praise is made about Rudeus who does morally right things despite his tragic past, tend to attack him with pathetic accusations just because they hate the show, that is, Rudeus, despite considering himself a bad person, really does a lot of things very honorable (such as saving Sylphie from bullies, preventing his family from falling apart, leading Eris on the right track, helping Ruijerd to restore the honor of the Superds, relieving his father of his misery, freeing Lilia & Aisha, saving Sara's life, taking good care of his sisters) and it is right that he is praised about this, even if it is annoying how the story tries to portray Rudeus as a bad person when in reality he is not, such as Keyaru from Redo of Healer. However it seems that praise cannot be made about him because the haters will attack him to the hilt, even though the praises are legitimate and reasonable and that's what I can't understand. The haters are really so susceptible that they don't even see the reality of the facts anymore? What do you think about it? Yeah he's such a good person, he's just like me fr fr fr fr fr fr  |
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Zarutaku said:
There are lots of errors in your post, I fixed them for you:
There are lots of errors in your post, I fixed them for you:
Why do people defend attack Rudeus?
I don't understand why people, when praise is made about Rudeus who does morally right things despite his tragic past, tend to attack him with pathetic accusations just because they hate the show, that is, Rudeus, despite considering himself a bad person, really does a lot of things very honorable (such as saving Sylphie from bullies, preventing his family from falling apart, leading Eris on the right track, helping Ruijerd to restore the honor of the Superds, relieving his father of his misery, freeing Lilia & Aisha, saving Sara's life, taking good care of his sisters) and it is right that he is praised about this, even if it is annoying how the story tries to portray Rudeus as a bad person when in reality he is not, such as Keyaru from Redo of Healer. However it seems that praise cannot be made about him because the haters will attack him to the hilt, even though the praises are legitimate and reasonable and that's what I can't understand. The haters are really so susceptible that they don't even see the reality of the facts anymore? What do you think about it?
I don't understand why people, when praise is made about Rudeus who does morally right things despite his tragic past, tend to attack him with pathetic accusations just because they hate the show, that is, Rudeus, despite considering himself a bad person, really does a lot of things very honorable (such as saving Sylphie from bullies, preventing his family from falling apart, leading Eris on the right track, helping Ruijerd to restore the honor of the Superds, relieving his father of his misery, freeing Lilia & Aisha, saving Sara's life, taking good care of his sisters) and it is right that he is praised about this, even if it is annoying how the story tries to portray Rudeus as a bad person when in reality he is not, such as Keyaru from Redo of Healer. However it seems that praise cannot be made about him because the haters will attack him to the hilt, even though the praises are legitimate and reasonable and that's what I can't understand. The haters are really so susceptible that they don't even see the reality of the facts anymore? What do you think about it?
Yeah he's such a good person, he's just like me fr fr fr fr fr fr
| @ChaChaVan Dawg, he's not a pedophile in his new life. |
| 𝙊𝙣𝙚 𝙋𝙞𝙚𝙘𝙚 𝙥𝙖𝙘𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙞𝙨 𝙥𝙚𝙧𝙛𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙡𝙮 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙚. - 𝙕𝙖𝙘𝙝 |
| I will give my reasoning on why I hate him. Rudeus isn't really that well done character. Story isn't about redemption as fans claiming it to be as He never paid for all the bad shit he has done. Compare him to thorfinn who has trauma after he became murderers. He tries to redeem himself by making paradise known as Vinland for people in exchange for all the lives he took. He will pay with his life after he build that paradise. Ofc rudeus crimes aren't as grave as thorfinn. But rudeus even in new life never felt bad or thought it's bad for things he do like trying to molest Eris or objectifying any woman that he sees. It's hilarious that he calls paul scumbag when he is literally much worse than him. Also constant self pity and victimization makes him look even more pathetic than he already is that was whole ED arc. Also praying panties and smell that shit even after getting married. I don't wanna question anyone fetish but it looks extremely creepy, reminds me of those 40+ year old in Japan who buys used panties. |
| To be frank, I find it odd how you can like the 1st season of Mushoku Tensei than the 2nd season, whereas you can already see people complaining about Rudy in the 1st season, and you gave it a high rating. So the math isn't mathing anymore, you might need to check on that. At this point, everyone is pretty familiar with the whole "This one character ruins the whole show for me." schtick. It's like hating a show for one singular character, which is something you must have seen since you've watched Demon Slayer (Zenitsu), or a lot of people hating Future Diary for the whiny, pathetic excuse of a male main character. So this is just an approach that's very common to see and surprisingly, a lot of people love to use this logic for any popular show they try to watch. As much as I dive in with the whole "Characters are the soul of the show and move the plot", you can't just say an anime is bad just because a single character just happens to be pretty loud and obnoxious or have a morally grey approach to every dilemma that hits him. He only does what he knows, that's what makes him a character. I'm not here to fully support him, but I much rather be with people who act according to their personalities rather than watch someone make all of the correct decisions just because it's the right thing to do. |
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@Abomination_suah Every time he tried something on Eris his balls were crushed. What else punishment he should've received? He gets punished immediately every time. "Not well done character" and "I can't self-insert" is not the same. And don't make me start on "bad thoughts" part... Would be interesting to make your thoughts accessible for everyone's evaluation. The ones you will never share, of course. Also panties stuff, of course it is unsettling, it is supposed to be when person reaches pre-suicidal state with nothing and no one to hold onto. Of course he would use anything to keep him sane and going. Object is not the point, meaning they have as an anchor to past better times is what matters.
| @al_vl when did he gets punished? Eris hitting him ? It treats it as a joke. That's literally him that trying to ra*e underaged girl and about bad thought(I am talking about his inner monologues) are in context about his ideas of any girls in his eye site. We are seeing story from rudeus POV. Shouldn't he feel bad about all dirty shit he does? Also all the panties he stoles and keeps it like a creep work as his anchors lmfao. He literally had loving family, good friends but used panties are where his anchors lie. So much for "I can't self-insert" |
| Not defending him, but it's funny that there's legitimately very loved popular live action and cartoon (USA, not Anime) characters that have done either the same stuff or that plus way worse added on, but no one bitches about them too, or focuses on them first. An extremely popular one being: The Joker TROLLOLOLOLOL |
| OP cannot understand why people defend Rudeus. People tend to defend the things they like, what is hard to understand about that? If your stance is, "Rudeus' action are indefensible," I would reply There is nothing, ‘either fundamentally good, nor anything fundamentally evil, everything is relative, relative to our point of view, that is to say, to our manners, to our opinions, to our prejudices. But if the issue is tantamount to, "Why doesn't everyone agree with me!?!" I would say it is extremely possible that something, perfectly indifferent in itself, may indeed be distasteful in your eyes, but may be most delicious in mine; and immediately I find it pleasing, immediately I find it amusing, regardless of our inability to agree on assigning a character to it, should I not be a fool to deprive myself of it merely because you condemn it? |
“When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad.” |
| @animegamer245 I don't know, you are focusing too much on it. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time. |
ChaChaVan said: I can't wait to receive a reply saying that, "he's a fictional character, he's not a real person uhuhuhuuu!" The only advice I can give y'all is to get some fuc*ing psychiatric help if you think watching lolicon hen*ai is okay too. Disappointed that noone is taking a bait? 😂 |
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