| Hardcore shipper communities tend to be very toxic fujoshies are no exception. They also have double standards, constantly complaining about sexualization and objectification of female characters while doing the same things with male characters. |
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IsaBelle33 said: TrainerOfLegend said: I'm not sure why it won't get deleted. It's very unhealthy to keep. I'm a little surprised they didn't delete it though.I’m surprised MAL has allowed this thread to continue. It’s descended into sexist, homophobic vitriol. I hope it stays the war being waged back and forth as been fun to read.  |
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| Some of them seem to unironically believe, that there is no such thing as friendship between two characters of the same gender, any interaction between the two immediately means they're into eachother and it's canon and attack anyone who disagree. |
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| cuz they are all annoying like chika. |
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| Because all of them are annoying and toxic. Pretty simple really, even more so when they play the victim card, like they're doing in this thread. |
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| From an old(er) man watching to much anime I will never understand the need to judge if you enjoy it watch it if you don't that's fine just don't tell others what they should or should not watch. But then I'm either preaching to the deaf or the already learned so its kind of a pointless discussion really. |
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| Fujos are toxic, cringe and disgusting in general , but lately Yuri fans have also caught up and are just equally obnoxious. Then again, anime fans in general also share those same traits so it’s something predominantly got to do with anime watchers in general. The reason why I feel Fujos in general are usually seen as the trash of the weeb circles is because they’re kinda more united which in turn brings out a more unified hatred targeted at them? To further my point, let’s say M really likes X anime and N really hates X. More often than not, this might turn into a toxic insult hurling argument, but because people’s taste is so diverse when the subject involves hatred and love for an anime/character, people really are different and diverse and can like or dislike anything to different degrees which means that in a general scenario, most people will likely not be affected as a collective consciousness if you like or dislike M. It’s a totally different matter when it comes to ships because shipping is a matter where the community is really polarised and hence you can see the haters and lovers getting united at the opposite spectrums and Fujos being lesser in number have gathered a bad reputation (which they do deserve, but so do the “Fujo haters”). |
FluffygreygrassApr 14, 2023 3:31 PM
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SynapticBlast said: Exactly this, both sides of the fence are equally wrong. Be it guys that obsess over yuri, girls obsessed with yaoi, or whatever your gender is, fetishizing sexuality between characters is just plain weird.Because it's strange to fetishize another person's sexuality, even if they are an anime character. Fujos often misinterpret male friendships as homoerotic and get angry when you disagree with them - at least that's the experience I've had with fujos online and IRL (and the fujos in this thread seem to be quite upset too). I find it hilarious that a lot of people on this thread are equating not liking gay-obsessed women with sexism and misogny as if it's some knee-jerk reaction. It's really not that deep. I think the same about guys who are obsessed with lesbians, it's the fetishization of LGBTQ+ people without actually supporting them, you are just supporting a warped idea of them. It's also harmful to platonic relationships more often than not, there are many fujoshis and himedanshis alike who push their fetish and warped idea of homosexual relationships for the erotic nature of it, and attack anyone who has a different view of said characters' relationships or sexuality. There is a huge difference between actually supporting LGBTQ+ relationships and being a fujoshi/himedanshi. |
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Sachyan said: People are just prejudiced towards anything that is gay (except when it's girls love, because the animanga community is more sexist than homophobic). In general girls who are into BL are super chill and just enjoy their fetish on their own. Saw a movie like this one and yes they are super cool but misunderstood by men |
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| Well because some people, mostly homophobes get so angry and aggressive when someone dares to ship two characters with the same sex They get so hurt by this they actually are crying themself to sleep, but the pain doesn't stop there! It lingers into the next day. so they go into forums and bitch and cry about how horrible and mean the fujoshi girls are Same reason why we Yuri fans get attacked and hated all the time. It's called homophobia. And it's the shipping police who are the most aggressive here, not Yuri or Yaoi fans But their anger is NOT going to help, we love our gay ship and are not going to back down because some people get so hurt over the mere thought of homosexuality and that gay people exist I understand the fujoshi💕💕 and love gay ships myself. If anyone has a problem with that too bad for them! Use the fucking ignore function and stop reading our posts =) Lesbian ships are awesome,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES  |
Yuri-CrusaderApr 14, 2023 11:56 PM
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IsaBelle33 said: I have asked this to many BL fans and I'll ask this again, can you name 10 Japanese BL anime that do not involve sex? And Given doesn't count due to the sexual assault in the movie.plus not all BL is about sex |
Sachyan said: In general girls who are into BL are super chill and just enjoy their fetish on their own. Yeah no they aren't and you don't know a lot of them if you really think that. |
| because most of them are women, and women generally get more hate online especially like around the 2010s, a girl would do literally anything online and shed get bullied to hell, tumblr was the only place with a bunch of safe spaces |
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| It's because this is the internet and thus there are quite a few screeching misogynistic homophobes around. Also remember kids, if you are looking for the closeted gay guy in the room the safest money is on that weirdly loud homophobe that just seems to pop off randomly without any provocation about how "gross and immoral" homosexuality is and how disgusted and disinterested they are in it. Seriously, give it ten or 20 years and you'll be surprised just how many of them it turns out to be true for. Bonus points if they come from a conservative Christian background in which case you should double down on your bet. You can almost smell the denial wafting of these people sometimes. On the bright side, most seem happier and more at peace once they finally come out although I've seen a few that never do. |
| Mainly sexism. But lots of women will get attacked by other women as well, that normally happens because a lot of people realise that they are reading/watching "problematic yaoi". Most men into yuri don't get much hate (on mal at least) because they have a community to back them up. I think a lot of men in general don't like seeing women "sexualise" men in any context. Even though they don't relate to a 2D gay man, they feel the need to attack women for being attracted to a 2D gay man. I've seen people ask why would a straight girl be into seeing to gay men together. Obviously this isn't the only reason but I believe it's because It's two attractive men who, unless they are bi, won't ever been seen with another woman. |
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| Because they turn everything into BL, but I don't see that as a problem, after all there are people who turn anything into a cute girl or a hentai. |
| I think it is because of people's prejudices. |
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exaltations said: why did you bring god into this? Not everyone believe in him, and they enjoy it just like how straight men fetishize lesbians (yuri), but why is it that men get a free pass to fetishize lesbians but women get hated for fetishizing gays? They're the same, and if you wanna bring god into this, both of them are sinful.Fujoshi get a bad reputation for the same reason lolicon does. They're literally two sides of the same coin. One of them wants to defile that which is pure and the other is fond of degradation. Both of them are perverted beyond belief, fundamentally corrupted.Why would a heterosexual woman be interested in homosexual men? Why is nobody able to answer that coherently? "Everyone has fetishes" - OK, got it, fetishes are these abstract things that are randomly assigned to people by some higher being. I thought you didn't believe in God? The answer, though, is that women are always able to get away with more things and more terrifying things in society, because men are more expendable (I don't make the rules, nature does) so people don't shame fujoshi as often as they shame lolicons.It's also that men are more likely to act on their criminal urges. |
| There's a difference between being a fujoshi and being an obnoxious person or being a blatant hypocrite. I think most people don't care that much if you ship two husbandos together, but if you are an obnoxious hypocrite who criticizes others for their taste in anime, people will roast you, and rightfully so. This also goes to people who ship two waifus together. |
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| I've been stalked, harassed and dehumanised by numerous fujos so I'm always very hesitant around them. |
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| In its beginnings, the most commercial BL was considered an act of fetishism for gay men by the majority female (straight) public. It is much more commercialized unlike the GL so it doesn't receive as much criticism as it does with fujoshi. The gay critique is supposed to be that same-sex attracted characters are used only for pornography, and don't lend themselves to other stories where their sexuality can be developed more deeply, or other stories where it's not important but is there as part of the character. Moral criticism has also come to all this, considering the pornographic fantasy of this medium as disgusting and questionable, since there is usually the stereotype that one is the Seme (active person) and Uke (passive person) in any type of action where It can even include rape or harassment. At this point it seems silly to me, it is very demonstrable that gay people can consume this medium because they also, or can, have the same type of fantasy as a straight woman, regardless of whether it is porn or not. The same can be said of men who watch Shoujo, women in Shounen, etc. What should be criticized is not porn that includes openly gay people, but in other genres where they lack canonically gay characters. I doubt this is called homophobia, but rather a cultural ignorance of authors who have grown up around it and only write what others have done before, but there can be exceptions as well. |
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| From personal experience they are bad. I won't get into details but on some anime games that i have tried those "fujos" have been pretty toxic. |
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OberonFelsach said: Honestly I never see guys shipping female characters together. It's still girls who do thatSexism. It's considered perfectly fine when men ship female characters together, but when women do the exact same thing with male characters, suddenly it's bad. And because anime fanbase is predominantly male, fujos get way more people (men) bitching about them. Anime fans are sensitive about sexualities and don't like seeing people mess with them. And sometimes, they can't understand it's just imagination |
MarkVijetApr 16, 2023 1:47 AM
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Catalano said: How do you always find a way to express your hate towards HxHI have no idea, there are way more annoying fans than them out there like huntrash x garbage fans, hina fans, rei fans, powy fans |
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FZREMAKE said: This is exactly what I meant in the post aboveCause gay feels disgusting to me and I don't want that annoying shit. Cute, wholesome and straight romance all the way. |
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MarkVijet said: OberonFelsach said: Honestly I never see guys shipping female characters together. Its still girls who do thatSexism. It's considered perfectly fine when men ship female characters together, but when women do the exact same thing with male characters, suddenly it's bad. And because anime fanbase is predominantly male, fujos get way more people (men) bitching about them. Anime fans are sensitive about sexualities and don't like seeing people mess with them And sometimes, they can't understand it's just imagination As a guy I can tell you that I have absolutely no idea what the point of shipping even is, and I'm probably not alone in that. |
| Fujoshi sounds like femdom who will put their boyfriend into forced bi action |
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Maou_heika said: I mean I don't watch any BL anime, I only read the manga. I could name 10 BL manga that doesn't involve sex. There are tons, you just have to pick BL and look for ones without erotica/hentai. That wasn't your question though lol.IsaBelle33 said: I have asked this to many BL fans and I'll ask this again, can you name 10 Japanese BL anime that do not involve sex? And Given doesn't count due to the sexual assault in the movie.plus not all BL is about sex But no I don't watch BL anime, I don't like the animations most of the time so I never even bothered with those, they aren't for me. |
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Sachyan said: Most fujoshi I encounter in real life or on the internet can't calm down. They speak and type annoyingly. People are just prejudiced towards anything that is gay (except when it's girls love, because the animanga community is more sexist than homophobic). In general girls who are into BL are super chill and just enjoy their fetish on their own. "I CANT EVEN WHEN KUROKO LIKE GLANCES OVER AT LIKE WHBUSBFUBFSDFJD". Look at yuri enjoyer, we indulge in yuri and be civil at the same time. |
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| What I see from fujoshis are most of them watch boys love only to fulfill their lust toward handsome guys being dramatic to each other. |
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| I don't hate fujoshi, but I hate yaoi bait anime that pretend to have a story. Therefore I only hate fujoshis who praise and want more of such anime. |
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| Why does anime fans get bad rep by majority? Why does any fan group get bad reputation? Obnoxious minority getting highlighted and negativity spreads faster and farther than anything positive + a bit of things other users here have mentioned. However everything negative about anime fans is true, so that hate is deserved. I personally enjoy all that BL and GL (and in general LGBT themed) shit, and even enjoy fan content created by shippers to other shippers. Do I go full apeshit over it? I hope not and try to keep that "hobby" in different parts of internet. At least I believe no one here could say what my otps are or what's the newest BL manga I liked. |
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| I don't mind. There are crazier people in anime circles and I don't mind most of them either. |
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MarkVijet said: you probably have never interacted with CGDCT/Mahou Shoujo/(female) idol fandom saying thatOberonFelsach said: Honestly I never see guys shipping female characters together. It's still girls who do thatSexism. It's considered perfectly fine when men ship female characters together, but when women do the exact same thing with male characters, suddenly it's bad. And because anime fanbase is predominantly male, fujos get way more people (men) bitching about them. and it's not just those type of anime, for example yuri ships in Hamefura imo are the most popular ship between the mc and the other cast which just says how much these ships are popular in a fandom |
mhkrApr 16, 2023 5:48 PM
| Do they? I think their reputation is about as bad as GL, it's just that there are a lot of male anime watchers than female so the bad feels overpowering. |
| I actually dated someone who was fujoshi... or at the very least was bordering on it. So I overheard many discussions with her and another yaoi fan. They are very passionate about their ships. Sometimes to the point of overshadowing the discussion of the anime itself. And to me, as a straight guy, I didn't really relate much too it. I imagine, since most of the anime community (generally speaking, yada yada) are straight dudes, then it could get tiring if that is what you are discussing, especially online. But with that being said, I haven't really seen it happen much in online discussions. Then again I don't watch a lot of shows these days that have attractive male characters, so that could be why. |
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| I think it's wrong to boil it down to prejudices and gender bias. Remember that fujoshis in anime are portrayed as over obsessive, maybe that's the cause, or the result, idk. I feel it's got the same energy as 'otaku', well rooted on the japanese side. Just that on the rest of the globe, people may be using it as excuses to being sexist, granted there are actually obnoxious fujoshis too. It's just who's louder is being heard. |
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MarkVijet said: Okay, but I have seen that. OberonFelsach said: Honestly I never see guys shipping female characters together. It's still girls who do thatSexism. It's considered perfectly fine when men ship female characters together, but when women do the exact same thing with male characters, suddenly it's bad. And because anime fanbase is predominantly male, fujos get way more people (men) bitching about them. Many times. |
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AnimePedestrian said: Hahaha I think its fine nowIsaBelle33 said: I'm not sure why it won't get deleted. It's very unhealthy to keep. I'm a little surprised they didn't delete it though. I hope it stays the war being waged back and forth as been fun to read. But earlier there was a guy telling people to k*** themselves and being homophobic, that was what I was referring to 😬 That was not cool |
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IsaBelle33 said: Hahaha I think its fine now But earlier there was a guy telling people to k*** themselves and being homophobic, that was what I was referring to 😬 That was not cool Oh yeah that's not cool (for word limit) |
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mhkr said: As I said, it's still girls who ship girls togetherMarkVijet said: you probably have never interacted with CGDCT/Mahou Shoujo/(female) idol fandom saying thatHonestly I never see guys shipping female characters together. It's still girls who do that and it's not just those type of anime, for example yuri ships in Hamefura imo are the most popular ship between the mc and the other cast which just says how much these ships are popular in a fandom |
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AnimePedestrian said: 😐😐😐😐O snap dude........IsaBelle33 said: Hahaha I think its fine now But earlier there was a guy telling people to k*** themselves and being homophobic, that was what I was referring to 😬 That was not cool Oh yeah that's not cool (for word limit) |
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Sachyan said: ^ If you don't think Killua is gay you haven't been paying attention haha. I need this on a t-shirt, stat! My very life depends on it. |
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