Dark and mature anime and Japan...

fizz90dizz said:
Anime like bleach tybw,vinland saga,odd taxi...which take dark and mature turn in anime are always very less know and less popular in Japan...Japan anime fans are loving more peaceful content...mc is dumb ,everything is funny,songs boy or girl bands etc...like don't get me wrong if the anme is good it should be popular and I am not targeting any anime but good anime but they are mature and dark are not noticeable by Japan fans...what's your opinion 

Don't hate keep it civil

monke_guy said:

Source: trust me bro....


Bro do you have the slightest idea on how popular the shows you mentioned were in Japan.

LordSozin said:
I'm more irritated by people loosely tossing the term "mature" and "dark" vaguely than actually giving any substance to what they're implying. Like, what are you even saying here? 

LordSozin said:
I'm more irritated by people loosely tossing the term "mature" and "dark" vaguely than actually giving any substance to what they're implying. Like, what are you even saying here? 

monke_guy said:
I agree with vinland saga and odd taxi having a mature type of theme, but tybw seriously... It's a shonen anime with some of the most common shonen troupes that are re-polished which makes the show enjoyable.
I still can't understand how people take anything that has a lot of characters dying in it as dark and mature anime, like killing a person makes a person mature that's complete bs.
Berserk and vagabond show how and what makes a series dark and mature and bleach having that arc is also a common shonen troupe that is supposed to happen sooner or later in most over-the-top action shonen anime, it's something that most mangaka uses if ever the series gets pretty repetitive or slightly boring or too much goofy they make sure you kill off some characters for the sake of hype for MC's character development. And if you want to see some actual mature shit with over-the-top action sequences I recommend you gurren lagan, sure the show has some of the worst types of comebacks for the mc but it somehow kind of suits the mc's attire and besides some of the cringe lines it has it's still has a deep political sense to it on how easily people now are influenced and how far the government can go just make it's people happy to the point where it is willing to destroy it's key piece that had kept it's society together.

fizz90dizz said:

i mean bleach tybw  as it had dark tone but I gave as an example but by mature and dark I meant monster,vagabond,vnland saga...

Cestlavie_ said:
But Vinland saga, Odd taxi and Monster are popular in Japan though

Usapz said:
What???
Bleach: 130 millions copies sold
Monster: 20 millions copies sold
Vinland Saga: 7 millions copies sold

Only odd taxi isn't so popular. Each time I see one of your thread, it's always nonsense. Please stop spreading your misinformation, MAL's popularity's number is not a good indicator of a show's popularity, it's influenced by a lot of other factors .

Madoka Magica was one of the most popular anime of 2011, alongside with steins;gate. Just in 2022, we got Chainsaw man's anime adaptation. And let's not forget fate zero. Anything written by Gen Urobuchi is more likely going to be liked by japanese. (Still don't understand why they like saya no uta so much). The danganronpa games, lain, evangelion, elfen lied, berserk, punpun, land of the lustrous, nana and the list goes on... What drugs are you on? It's not because some cgdct anime got hyped up that other genres are being shadowed by them. 

And what do you even mean by ''dark and mature''?

fizz90dizz said:

I literally told ..I am only talking about bleach tybw..not bleach,monster and vinland saga now compare them to west fans and other popular anime.. they are much less popular...but okay I chnage the thread for you...but I do feel Japan fans are not focusing on mature anime

fizz90dizz said:
anime which take dark and mature turn in anime are always very less know and less popular in Japan...Japan anime fans are loving more peaceful content...mc is dumb ,everything is funny,songs boy or girl bands etc...like don't get me wrong if the anme is good it should be popular and I am not targeting any anime but good anime but they are mature and dark are not noticeable by Japan fans..there can be other dark anime to ,I am just talking dark and mature anime in general...what's your opinion 

Don't hate keep it civil,changed the thread a little😅

MissAnybody10 said:

that's not a Japan only thing, light hearted stuff appeals to a wider audience than darker stuff. that's why the persona series is more popular than Shin megami tensei in the west.

LordSozin said:
I'm more irritated by people loosely tossing the term "mature" and "dark" vaguely than actually giving any substance to what they're implying. Like, what are you even saying here?

monke_guy said:

Source: trust me bro....


Bro do you have the slightest idea on how popular the shows you mentioned were in Japan.

WVM said:

which shows is he talking about ?

if it's vinland saga I agree with him

fizz90dizz said:

I was talking about vinland saga,odd taxi,monster and bleach tybw...and tybw specifically...

WVM said:

highly disagree if you are talking about TYBW

bro like how ??? it's bleach and also it's TYBW talking about.....how can it be not popular ???

fizz90dizz said:

I mean tybw got so popular in west and its very good...but it has very less audience in Japan....like if it had good Japan audience mal audience will be more....

WVM said:

may be but still even if you speak BLEACH doesn't got a big fan base feels like a sarcasm 😂😂😂

VINLAND SAGA needs support

fizz90dizz said:

brother...bleach is my fav anime...and tybw will break records...just wait..black clover and jjk will also do good...including aot...

WVM said:

bleach some way becomes the FATHER of black clover, jjk, ds and many more and DBZ being their GRAND FATHER 😁😁😁

black clover Spade arc will surely be a big hype

fizz90dizz said:

generation coming to take over🗿

LostSpectre said:
Christ, why do you have nothing better to do than shill for Bleach constantly? lmao

Xylathoth said:
You're literally describing most people. Most people prefer nice, cute, wholesome things. How do you know it's less popular in Japan? The number of fans and sales? Japan has less population than the "West" so of course the numbers are lower for series that are popular everywhere. Even considering only the US, Japan has about 1/3 its population. If you want to make these claims, pull up some stats first. And can you define what exactly are your metrics for "dark" and "mature"? These are very vague terms and your definition could be vastly different from others.

fizz90dizz said:

bro....I meant sales of other manga in Japan vs dark and mature mnaga sales in Japan..

Xylathoth said:

Same answer, people everywhere usually prefer nice, wholesome, lighthearted content. Once again, what "dark and mature"? That's not a genre. Lots of things can be dark depending on your perspective and series targeted for a younger audience can also be mature/contain mature elements.

fizz90dizz said:

dark means blood ,gruesome,explaining something but in a depressed way....
mature means sexual content,dark side of the world,manipulation

Xylathoth said:

Dragon Ball fits that definition and it definitely isn't unpopular

fizz90dizz said:

bro💀..dwag are you serious right bro...man said dbz💀

Xylathoth said:

Yes, blood, gruesome fights, "dark side of the world", and Frieza. Fits your bill. Btw Spy x Family is more popular than TYBW in the West too.

fizz90dizz said:

brother....I wrote so much in this thread...and man said yeah...its fit dbz🗿...tybw is more famous than spy x family season 2 not 1..in west

Xylathoth said:

Spy x Family season 2 hasn't been released yet. Spy x Family Season Part 1 and 2 are both more popular than TYBW. I asked for your definition and I matched your definition. If you don't like being challenged in your views I'll stop responding and let you keep fanboying over TYBW.

Xylathoth said:

Spy x Family season 2 hasn't been released yet. Spy x Family Season Part 1 and 2 are both more popular than TYBW. I asked for your definition and I matched your definition. If you don't like being challenged in your views I'll stop responding and let you keep fanboying over TYBW.

epidemia78 said:
is this another one of those guys who are mad because their favorite anime isn't popular enough?

fizz90dizz said:

nah bro...just asking genuinely..my fav anime is doing good

fizz90dizz said:

okay bro...have a nice day..but doesn't that answer my question that jolly stuff over dark stuff...

epidemia78 said:

u sure about that bro? because you seem upset that Spy x Family is doing well too.

Xylathoth said:

I answered that twice. If you want a detailed reason, go read some research papers on human psychology or something instead of making an anime forum thread.

fizz90dizz said:

and also if we take mal viewers for spy x family it include Japan too

fizz90dizz said:

I am sorry brother ..anywhere I post it will be same comment why is it here..I choose bleach tybw because it had dark tone compared to last bleach og..and bleach tybw was very popular in west but in Japan they over looked it for spy family..💀..that's too for season 2