| - Another (Despicable how carefully they cultivated a proper modern Gothic horror atmosphere in every episode all throughout its first half only to defecate all over the work in its second half by turning it into a rushed and speedrun, cheesy splatterfest like any generic 1980s American live action D movie schlock of a slasher flick with a bunch of no-name nobodies dying left and right, which you couldn't care less about because most die before you even know or feel the importance of their name and presence to any significant degree whatsoever. I can and semi-regretfully have watched a bunch of crappy 80s, 90s, 2000s, etc. Hollywood American productions like this so no need to see it proliferate in the anime-verse) - Babylon - Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Satsuriku no Tenshi - Spice & Wolf - Neon Genesis Evangelion - Sakamichi no Apollon - Black Lagoon (to some extent - not as extreme as the others as I still like and rate the overall series more highly than all others mentioned, but I don't care for how episodic it becomes in season two specifically from what could have been one of the most compelling stories of all time if there was a radical reprioritization of what was valued in the story from the writers/creative staff) - Terra Formars - Rin: Daughters of Mnemosyne - Those Snow White Notes - Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song - Ousama Ranking - Death Note (Dropped) - Claymore (Dropped) - Monster (Dropped) - Yakusoku no Neverland, obviously "no duh" (season two almost entirely, although I did find season one to be as a whole good and promising, but also still overrated) - Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic (I found one season to be enough) - Ascendance of a Bookworm (premise is great, first season is good, second season is okay and a step down, third season is another step down from that and getting less okay in its direction/focus and pacing) - Higehiro (Infuriating really) - The World Ends with You - The Animation - 86 - Vanitas no Carte |
| after review, despite the many options, to name ONLY one, I shall name The Flowers of Evil. Everyone who read it to the end will agree |
“When people see some things as beautiful, other things become ugly. When people see some things as good, other things become bad.” |
| Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers as I saw someone said above... why did it not get a second season?! Umineko... I wanted to like that show so much, it had so much potential but it fell flat for me and made me frustrated with how it ends. (maybe the VN is better who knows..) Danganrompa, The games are great but the Anime fell short.. it could have been such a great series if they had actually put some budget into that show and better writing for the adaptation. Fate stay, the way that show looks is amazing but personally... I know this is an uncommon opinion but the writing for that show is SO bland to me. Oreimo Season 2... the ending made that entire season pointless......... SAO after the GGO Arc |
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| Loddoss War has a really nice art style and I actually do enjoy classic DnD like fantasy when it has depth and done well instead of being the most boring stereotypical story imaginable. |
| Goblin Slayer and Sora no Otoshimono would be better if they would be just MC and main girl. Sakurai and Ikaros, Goblin Slayer and Priestess. Other characters in the crew are kind of bad and not likable: Elf girl, Sohara, Mikako. It would be better without them. They spoil the show. |
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| Attack on titan. After that horrible ending..... |
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IBN5100_ said: Attack on titan. After that horrible ending..... I've often heard that the ending is bad, but I don't really understand why people think it ruins the story. Could you explain under spoilers how you personally see it yourself? |
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RobertBobert said: They ruined the characters, ruined the writing and made a mess of the mc.IBN5100_ said: Attack on titan. After that horrible ending..... I've often heard that the ending is bad, but I don't really understand why people think it ruins the story. Could you explain under spoilers how you personally see it yourself? They tried to even justify genocide like as if it is okay to murder millions of people for the sake of your friends. It just makes no sense. |
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IBN5100_ said: RobertBobert said: They ruined the characters, ruined the writing and made a mess of the mc.I've often heard that the ending is bad, but I don't really understand why people think it ruins the story. Could you explain under spoilers how you personally see it yourself? They tried to even justify genocide like as if it is okay to murder millions of people for the sake of your friends. It just makes no sense. So, is this basically a violation of the logic of the plot, its ideas and the personalities of the characters? |
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| fairytail. the answer is always fairytail. worst failure at living up to potential |
KuroudoAkabane said: fairytail. the answer is always fairytail. worst failure at living up to potential Why do you think so? I heard it's a pretty bland show in terms of plot. |
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RobertBobert said: So, is this basically a violation of the logic of the plot, its ideas and the personalities of the characters? Yeah it ruined a lot of what was established about the plot and most importantly it destroyed Eren's character, there's a reason why many fans can't take his character seriously anymore! Hopefully the anime will change the ending but I doubt it will |
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Joshhhp said: RobertBobert said: So, is this basically a violation of the logic of the plot, its ideas and the personalities of the characters? Yeah it ruined a lot of what was established about the plot and most importantly it destroyed Eren's character, there's a reason why many fans can't take his character seriously anymore! Hopefully the anime will change the ending but I doubt it will I'm going to start the second season soon. At what point does it start to fall apart? |
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| Nanbaka, they did way too much. They should have just kept it as a comedy instead of trying to make it so dramatic. |
RobertBobert said: Joshhhp said: Yeah it ruined a lot of what was established about the plot and most importantly it destroyed Eren's character, there's a reason why many fans can't take his character seriously anymore! Hopefully the anime will change the ending but I doubt it will I'm going to start the second season soon. At what point does it start to fall apart? Well the very final chapter is what many people agree it made the series fall apart, for me personally it does start to fall after the events of the final season Part I |
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Joshhhp said: RobertBobert said: I'm going to start the second season soon. At what point does it start to fall apart? Well the very final chapter is what many people agree it made the series fall apart, for me personally it does start to fall after the events of the final season Part I So, anyway, the main problems start after the final season? |
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RobertBobert said: So, anyway, the main problems start after the final season? The show slowly gets worse during the final season with the story and then there's the end that just ruins everything that happens in the series |
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Joshhhp said: RobertBobert said: So, anyway, the main problems start after the final season? The show slowly gets worse during the final season with the story and then there's the end that just ruins everything that happens in the series Well, if I remember correctly, they promised some extra scenes to play down the fact that most people are familiar with the manga and have already seen the end of it. |
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RobertBobert said: Well, if I remember correctly, they promised some extra scenes to play down the fact that most people are familiar with the manga and have already seen the end of it. Really?! I never heard of this promise but if it's true then I guess it's a good thing |
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| WataMote, I really enjoyed the first season a lot for it's awkward hilariousness, but right when they were starting to introduce some characters for her to finally start interacting with the anime just abruptly ended. There were no followup seasons adapting more of the ongoing manga, it was really frustrating that it ended so abruptly, because it seemed to be hinting at new characters and plot turns to come. |
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| kimetsu no yaiba had a great pilot and thought it would be good but turned out to be really boring because writer just wanted to play safe. takt op destiny had a great idea but it became bad because of lifeless characters and bad script |
| Death note - not a great fan of later part of the show. No game no life - premise, animation and art style was good but mc didn't click for me and as usual all side charector because his puppet as in any other isekai anime. My sister my writer - last few episodes were bad, and i think eromanga sensei was far better that this. Sasami san ganbaranai - start was slow but watchable and mid part hit hard and some really good scenes but ending, ending was was weak, still watchable but weak. I know this have very low rating but I still enjoyed it till 7-8 episodes because it had some specific thing that I was looking for. Testament of sister New devil - show starting was good but as show goes the MC looked bland. I like the side character more than the MC. Another MC born with strongest power in the universe. Chivalry of a failed knight - great premise, good start, but show turned into another harem and i didn't click with the MC and at the ending i was rooting for the MC competitor. Irregular at the magic high school - it would have been better if every person on the planet don't treatment him like a god. I couldn't watch after first season |
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i'm not playing the devil advocate here, but no, unless you want to learn how to create bad character |
corysakti said: i'm not playing the devil advocate here, but no, unless you want to learn how to create bad character I don't get it, do you love or hate the show? |
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| I don’t think I‘m the only one who thinks this, but the second season of the Promised Neverland was an insult to it‘s original story in the manga. It was incredibly rushed, and STILL somehow managed to keep aspects of the story from the manga that were unimportant or didn’t end up driving the story forward. They completely cut out what could have been the stories BEST arc (R.I.P. Goldypond) but kept in 2 episodes of the characters pointlessly wandering a forest. Just….. Why? I was so excited for the second season, an I think this was the worst disappointed I‘ve ever felt from a show where I had high expectations. Since they decided to rush the story in so many places and handle the passing of time with poorly executed time-skips, there was also the issue of the characters not seeming to grow. (SPOILER FOR THE MANGA AND ANIME ! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!) A thing I found sad in a ‚I-don’t-know-wether-to-laugh-or-cry-way, was that, because the kids didn’t seem to grow or mature (The manga had the same Time-axe, but the artstyle changed to make the kids seem more mature) I couldn’t take them seriously anymore. This was especially bad in Normans case. The dude is talking about eliminating the demons and destroying their society, and while that was a horrible thing to witness in the manga, because Norman seemed so mature, done, broken and vengeful………. I COULDN‘T TAKE HIS ANIME-SELF SERIOUSLY BECAUSE HE STILL HAD HIS STUPID BABY-FACE!!!!! It was PAINFUL to watch the second season, and I‘m STILL trying to get my boyfriend (we watched both seasons together as they aired. One episode each week) to read the manga, just so he can see what could have been….. |
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| I have recently finished Monster, and I'm mad. There is a lot of good things about the show, the character arcs of some of the side characters are awesome. (Eva is best girl, don't @ me) But some others are kind of pointless, and don't really build up to anything, just slow the already slow pacing even more. And the main characters, and the core plot falls so flat... Tenma is just a preachy anime protagonist. Nina spends half the anime fainted. And Johan doesn't have enough screen time to really be a real character! |
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| Maison Ikkoku. Currently 26 eps in and it irks me the most with its teases and stuff like "sike, it's a misunderstanding!" or the mc fantasizing and then hitting things. JaniSIr said: well they just expand the show's themes of being humane i see nothing wrong with that.I have recently finished Monster, and I'm mad. There is a lot of good things about the show, the character arcs of some of the side characters are awesome. (Eva is best girl, don't @ me) But some others are kind of pointless, and don't really build up to anything, just slow the already slow pacing even more. JaniSIr said: how is he preachy?And the main characters, and the core plot falls so flat... Tenma is just a preachy anime protagonist. JaniSIr said: Nina spends half the anime fainted. JaniSIr said: i thought that's what makes him stand out above 99% of all anime characters. Minimal screentime yet has some of the best writings out there.And Johan doesn't have enough screen time to really be a real character! |
TRC_Randy said: Maison Ikkoku. Currently 26 eps in and it irks me the most with its teases and stuff like "sike, it's a misunderstanding!" or the mc fantasizing and then hitting things. JaniSIr said: well they just expand the show's themes of being humane i see nothing wrong with that.I have recently finished Monster, and I'm mad. There is a lot of good things about the show, the character arcs of some of the side characters are awesome. (Eva is best girl, don't @ me) But some others are kind of pointless, and don't really build up to anything, just slow the already slow pacing even more. JaniSIr said: how is he preachy?And the main characters, and the core plot falls so flat... Tenma is just a preachy anime protagonist. JaniSIr said: Nina spends half the anime fainted. JaniSIr said: i thought that's what makes him stand out above 99% of all anime characters. Minimal screentime yet has some of the best writings out there.And Johan doesn't have enough screen time to really be a real character! Ugh, I was thinking of starting that anime, but I guess I'll need to find my fill of trashy romance elsewhere. I suppose all the best parts came out of the side content, so I could forgive some not so great side plots, if I wasn't mad about the core plot not being developed well enough. Well, he is basically portrayed as the ultimate morally good character, and he talks quite a lot about not killing anyone while actively trying to kill Johan... That's the thing though, he has no writing. He is hyped up as this eldritch monster, like if he were Cthulhu or something, but in practice we see almost nothing of that. And much of his plans just come down to having hired goons do his dirty work, so the master manipulator title people gave him is kind of undeserved. He is also supposedly smart, but in practice he just has the knowledge of the author, since we never get to know his way of thinking. |
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JaniSIr said: if you think Monster (or in this case Tenma's character) is about morality then you're mistaken. It's about human nature with Tenma being the good human side by valuing human lives/not killing people and Johan the opposite "Monster" side. Now, are they the ABSOLUTE representations of each side? NO. Tenma has his own Monster when he TRC_Randy said: Maison Ikkoku. Currently 26 eps in and it irks me the most with its teases and stuff like "sike, it's a misunderstanding!" or the mc fantasizing and then hitting things.well they just expand the show's themes of being humane i see nothing wrong with that. how is he preachy? i thought that's what makes him stand out above 99% of all anime characters. Minimal screentime yet has some of the best writings out there. Ugh, I was thinking of starting that anime, but I guess I'll need to find my fill of trashy romance elsewhere. I suppose all the best parts came out of the side content, so I could forgive some not so great side plots, if I wasn't mad about the core plot not being developed well enough. Well, he is basically portrayed as the ultimate morally good character, and Johan with his humanity when he That's the main theme of the show. JaniSIr said: that's literally his character's conflict that he can't shake off the guilt of being the one saving Johan which lead to all those serial killings but at the same time can't violate his no-kill principle and the story gives the solution to that at the very end which i'll explain.and he talks quite a lot about not killing anyone while actively trying to kill Johan.. bcoz he's the hero of the story and is trying to prevent someone from stepping into the villain's rabbit hole? and that's the solution. Btw, fate and parental love are another important elements of the show which gives even that random character a reason for why it happened but i'll stop there for now. um, she's like the biggest victim of trauma in the whole show. What's the issue? Look i know you (and others) might've been irritated by how she's portrayed but i don't think you can deny the fact she's well-written. JaniSIr said: oh no, HE HAS. This is a common thing among people who complained about Monster that they missed what the show's trying to say and mostly surrounding Johan's true motives. Not sure if you've seen it but this video covers a lot of thatThat's the thing though, he has no writing. And i'm not saying this for nothing. Just watch it first and then i'll respond to your further doubts if any. And finally, Monster isn't an anime about characters talking people into knowingly/unknowingly doing things in their favour. It simply doesn't do that. The same way you can't say Death Note and Code Geass having too much "WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT?" moments as a valid criticism. Also, for the record i myself don't think Johan is a "best manipulator" material character tbw as the vast majority of those he has manipulated are all people with unstable minds. |
| AoButa had potential for me to give it a 8+ but I felt they rushed it too much to make it fit in 12 episodes. The first three were fine but the rest of the anime needed at least a series of 20 chapters. I haven't read the novel but I feel like that. Another case would be Ryokunohara Meikyuu, they had 40 minutes but they still wasted like 30% of the time in useless transitions. The story's premise is interesting but it was terribly executed. Finally the case that frustrates me the most: although I really like the Haruhi Franchise, Endless Eight could have been put in only one chapter just like it appears in the novel, and adapt Disappearance arc into the 2nd season. The movie is 161m, that could have been adapted in the 7 chapters of 23 minutes each, opening and ending would take time but the movie itself added stuff that didn't appear in the novel so it would be still a great adaptation without losing much. |
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TRC_Randy said: JaniSIr said: if you think Monster (or in this case Tenma's character) is about morality then you're mistaken. It's about human nature with Tenma being the good human side by valuing human lives/not killing people and Johan the opposite "Monster" side. Now, are they the ABSOLUTE representations of each side? NO. Tenma has his own Monster when he Ugh, I was thinking of starting that anime, but I guess I'll need to find my fill of trashy romance elsewhere. I suppose all the best parts came out of the side content, so I could forgive some not so great side plots, if I wasn't mad about the core plot not being developed well enough. Well, he is basically portrayed as the ultimate morally good character, and Johan with his humanity when he That's the main theme of the show. JaniSIr said: that's literally his character's conflict that he can't shake off the guilt of being the one saving Johan which lead to all those serial killings but at the same time can't violate his no-kill principle and the story gives the solution to that at the very end which i'll explain.and he talks quite a lot about not killing anyone while actively trying to kill Johan.. bcoz he's the hero of the story and is trying to prevent someone from stepping into the villain's rabbit hole? and that's the solution. Btw, fate and parental love are another important elements of the show which gives even that random character a reason for why it happened but i'll stop there for now. um, she's like the biggest victim of trauma in the whole show. What's the issue? Look i know you (and others) might've been irritated by how she's portrayed but i don't think you can deny the fact she's well-written. JaniSIr said: oh no, HE HAS. This is a common thing among people who complained about Monster that they missed what the show's trying to say and mostly surrounding Johan's true motives. Not sure if you've seen it but this video covers a lot of thatThat's the thing though, he has no writing. And i'm not saying this for nothing. Just watch it first and then i'll respond to your further doubts if any. And finally, Monster isn't an anime about characters talking people into knowingly/unknowingly doing things in their favour. It simply doesn't do that. The same way you can't say Death Note and Code Geass having too much "WHAT SHOULD I DO NEXT?" moments as a valid criticism. Also, for the record i myself don't think Johan is a "best manipulator" material character tbw as the vast majority of those he has manipulated are all people with unstable minds. I don't see how "human vs monster" would be so much different from "good vs bad". Also that's really just nitpicking, Tenma being angry and saying something he regretted a minute later doesn't really make a dent on his otherwise "flawless" personality. And by flawless I mean morality on the intention based sense, not accounting for the consequences. Because if you think about it, that was the action that allowed him to save the most lives in the story: working in a hospital for 10 years. And if that out of context line about a TV show, that a character, who wasn't even even on screen at the same time as Johan, is the solution to the story, that's just sad. No wonder people didn't pick up on that, because neither should have the characters in the story. Nina was a good character at the beginning, but then she basically lost her own will, and turned into a flashback machine. And speaking of useless recurring character, Dieter didn't do anything past the Turkish district arc either... That video reminded me why I hate people over analyzing things. Telling how you should feel about certain scenes can ruin the experience, even retroactively. And that's true even when you agree with them, and some of these video essays are really far fetched. I've once watched one, where the guy turned the Amigara fault manga into a metaphor for the horror of growing up and getting a job. And that last bit about Johan being the master manipulator, please write that up to the anime community for false advertising and overhyping. |
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| Witch Hunter Robin had an interesting premise and character design but the plotline fell flat around the last 7-9 eps.... |
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dumbandinsane said: Glad I'm not the only one who thought it was too slow/boring at the start.ngl chainsawman it has potential but ruined by boredness Rinrinka said: I feel like the potential shined through the most in Fairy Tail (2014) with the Grand Magic Games, but everything else tends to be painfully mediocre. Nothing like salty or bitter, just kinda disappointed whenever I encounter wasted potential anime, like Fairy Tail for example. The concept is pretty good but the execution could have been 100x better, too bad. |
Scavendgarr said: Kimetsu no yaiba have a potential, too bad it's just a bleach bootleg. Well, some might say "Bleach is good, but damn, why it had to feel like Saint Seiya with swords?", due to how it was influenced by Masami Kurumada's manga and how Tite Kubo is a fan of Saint Seiya in general. ;p Newer works of art will always be inspired by previous ones, this way or another, more or less. About OP's question, I think I'd go with Saintia Sho anime. It had great potential to be something really cool; a fine mix of shounen and mahou shoujo themes. Too bad its anime adaptation was well... underwhelming, to put it in diplomatic way, haha. Most of fans agree that the anime simply was bad, both as an adaptation of source material, and a show in general. |
JaniSIr said: still different. I mean "good vs bad" is a general term. "Morality" and "human nature" are two distinct more refined versions of it the same with asking "is 120 IQ considered genius?" is fundamentally different to "what are the different levels of human intelligence?".I don't see how "human vs monster" would be so much different from "good vs bad". JaniSIr said: no it ain't. The point i raised was "is Tenma the ABSOLUTE representation of human nature that values lives?" which he isn't proven by his rage (unless you don't know what "absolute" means). In other words it's NOT nitpicking. You simply missed the point i was tryna say.Also that's really just nitpicking, bruh, the guy was on edge, mentally unstable after all that's happened. Why on earth would you expect him to make rational properly calculated decisions? It's a bloody "PSYCHOLOGICAL" story man. It's ridiculous if you didn't realize that. the video i gave addresses that as well but seems like you didn't even watch it. boring is more of an innate thing that depends on each person but to say he's static is outright wrong. The fact that Tenma He also grew more hair and started having facial hair and stuff which he didn't earlier. umm, he was SHOCKED... JaniSIr said: wrong again. She simply began Nina was a good character at the beginning, but then she basically lost her own will, and turned into a flashback machine. JaniSIr said: oh he DID sth. In And speaking of useless recurring character, Dieter didn't do anything past the Turkish district arc either... JaniSIr said: please address the contents specifically in the video first before making any conclusions. Saying "i hate people over analyzing things" doesn't prove jack. If that's the case I can say the exact same thing to you too; you're UNDER analyzing things.That video reminded me why I hate people over analyzing things. JaniSIr said: why me? Just do it yourself. Or at least be the first man and i'll follow. Besides, you can blame them for that but you also have to blame YOURSELF for believing it.And that last bit about Johan being the master manipulator, please write that up to the anime community for false advertising and overhyping. |
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