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Jun 26, 2022 5:27 AM
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Spy x Family was supposed to be the seasonal anime. However, the ending of Kaguya Sama S3 managed to make Kaguya S3 really well-loved, beating out Spy x Family as the most-loved show of the season. Do you think Kaguya S3's ending is actually better than Spy x Family?

I asked a similar question on the Kaguya S3 board and so I'm making a thread here to control for bias.


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Jun 26, 2022 5:31 AM
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Well if you’re talking about last episodes only, then yes, Kaguya sama had a better ending. If you’re talking about the whole season, then I liked SxF more.


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Jun 26, 2022 5:34 AM
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Remocracy said:
Spy x Family was supposed to be the seasonal anime. However, the ending of Kaguya Sama S3 managed to make Kaguya S3 really well-loved, beating out Spy x Family as the most-loved show of the season. Do you think Kaguya S3's ending is actually better than Spy x Family?

I asked a similar question on the Kaguya S3 board and so I'm making a thread here to control for bias.

you can't really compare Spy x Family to Kaguya Sama. Spy x Family is currently building up to something while Kaguya-sama is ending a chapter.
Jun 26, 2022 5:35 AM
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yeah I feel like Kaguya was overall a consistently good and hyped show till the end where obviously it picked up speed and insane hype with a particular scene in mind

Spy family was really good at the beginning but kinda fell in the middle after anya got into the school (imo).

Honestly kaguya for me was the better show with an elite ending, but the ending for spy family was still rlly wholesome - ended on a filler tho??
Jun 26, 2022 5:36 AM
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I think overall Spy x Family is better but for the ending Kaguya>>>>>>. Ofc Spy x Family just started and building up to something while we already into 3 seasons of Kaguya
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Remocracy said:
Spy x Family was supposed to be the seasonal anime. However, the ending of Kaguya Sama S3 managed to make Kaguya S3 really well-loved, beating out Spy x Family as the most-loved show of the season. Do you think Kaguya S3's ending is actually better than Spy x Family?

I asked a similar question on the Kaguya S3 board and so I'm making a thread here to control for bias.

bro stfu, kaguya sama was consistently good and the fandom loved it throughout. and fyi, a lot of viewers dont rate an anime until its airing is over, and once liw finished airing, many people such as me rated it and hence the rating unlike spy x family which got the rating purely out of hype for the first 2 episodes and went down.
stop making these stupid pointless threads and get a fucking life. if you feel sxf is better then rate it highly thats all
Jun 26, 2022 5:40 AM
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I am a manga reader, I can't tell which one will be better but personally, I liked SxF more.

In the manga, SxF and Kaguya seem to be building up to something serious



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Jun 26, 2022 5:42 AM
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Spy family is sitting at the score Kaguya sama had been all season and is only showing signs of dropping, although I doubt by much. People are saying that it’s only the ending of Kaguya sama that people liked but it had a score of just below 9 all season which is a very high score that put it in the top 15 all season.

Both are very good though. I prefered Kaguya Sama all season compared to Spy Family and the ending even more so but I could understand anyone disagreeing with me.
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Remocracy said:
Spy x Family was supposed to be the seasonal anime. However, the ending of Kaguya Sama S3 managed to make Kaguya S3 really well-loved, beating out Spy x Family as the most-loved show of the season. Do you think Kaguya S3's ending is actually better than Spy x Family?

I asked a similar question on the Kaguya S3 board and so I'm making a thread here to control for bias.

kaguya sama had easily way better final episode and was also really way better then spy x family but I think spy x family has just begun so it isn't right to compare these 2 for now
Jun 26, 2022 5:58 AM
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You can't compare like this, Spy x Family is S1 where Kaguya Same Love is war is S3 and ya you can't compare best season of an anime to newly released anime.

If forgetting this opinions, personally i like Kaguya Same Love is war S3 more than Spy x Family. but Spy x Family is also really good. These are some few animes that both their manga and anime adaption are so good.
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Remocracy said:
Spy x Family was supposed to be the seasonal anime. However, the ending of Kaguya Sama S3 managed to make Kaguya S3 really well-loved, beating out Spy x Family as the most-loved show of the season. Do you think Kaguya S3's ending is actually better than Spy x Family?

I asked a similar question on the Kaguya S3 board and so I'm making a thread here to control for bias.

hmmmmmmmmmm
I wonder which ending will be the better one
the one that has been building up its story for three seasons
or the one that just started building up its story
Jun 26, 2022 6:07 AM
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I will say it again Season 1 ends on part 2, it was not the finale episode
Jun 26, 2022 6:12 AM
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Probably because it wasn't a finale lol
Jun 26, 2022 6:19 AM

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Besides the 'Kaguya-sama is S3 and the confession was a good ending', there's one thing that is pretty clear: SxF episode 12 doesn't feel like an ending, not even close. For example, other seasons of Kaguya-sama ends in a way where, while it isn't the end end, it can be taken as one. SxF last episode feels more like a normal one rather than a 'oh, part 1 is over'. Also I miss Bond :( I thought he would appear as to close part 1, sad.

There's also the fact that SxF had its hype during the first 5 eps then went down while Kaguya skyrocketted on the ending.

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Jun 26, 2022 6:28 AM

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Spy x Family is kind of overhyped. However, it's really damn good. As in it meets my expectations but not beyond it.

Kaguya S3 on the other hand blew me away, especially because of the last episode. It was unexpecting because I expected it to be another ROMCOM fun and happy time again. My lord, I even cried. Cried harder than when I was watching Spy x Family (but I do admit that I cried more in Spy x Family, though not as much compared to when I cried during the final episode of Kaguya S3).

Kaguya S3 is something highly anticipated for fans who have followed it since S1 like me and Spy X Family is something highly anticipated as an adaptation of a highly regarded manga. I and a lot of us had a feeling that Kaguya will go BIG during this season and that Spy X Family on the other hand will be introducing itself and laying its foundations and showing that it's worth watching and how much it's worth. That's how I saw it, and because KS3 exceeded my expectations and Spy x Family did not, I believe that Kaguya indeed is better than Spy x Family.

If solely judging based on S3 ending alone against Spy x Family? Then... I don't know and I don't want to answer. I'm sorry. But everything I wanted to say, even if it's not related to this thread is already said above.
Jun 26, 2022 6:42 AM
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I read the manga of both, and I knew Kaguya was going to end up much better than SpyxFamily the moment I realized that the SxF adaptation was moving very slowly and they kept adding original scenes to fill in episodes.
Jun 26, 2022 6:54 AM

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Let's put it this way - KS S3 was much more consistent in its storytelling than SxF and therefore I was more engaged in its plot. SxF is twitching in convulsions between main mission, cute Anya simulator, difficulties of life under cover, school shenanigans and a touch of noir. There's no whole picture in it as you can shuffle the episodes out of their original position and not miss a beat.
Jun 26, 2022 7:00 AM
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kaguya-sama is more coherent and had some continuity with its episodes but i personally liked spy x family for the wholesomeness (my preference). animation-wise, spy x family is a bit better too.

i feel like it's natural that kaguya-sama got the better season ending tho because spy x family still has part two.

both are great tho. these two series stands equal to me.
Jun 26, 2022 7:16 AM

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yes, Love is war has a better ending but SpyxFamily has a better start. they are both equally good shows
Jun 26, 2022 7:19 AM
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But spy family have 2 parts in first season right?
 
Jun 26, 2022 7:21 AM
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Kaguya was way better than this. This show has terrible pacing. Most of it is just sol and no action. Gags ran old. Tired of hearing Anya spaz out. Plot is predictable. Bully drowns and Anya savers him. Jokes and humour sucked compared to Kaguya. Not witty just childish cringe. Jump is going to mil this show since the media shilled this to oblivion. There is a reason this anime crashed so hard in every single poll
Jun 26, 2022 7:26 AM

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I don't think it's a fair comparison because season 1 isn't over for SxF while S3 of Kaguya completed a pretty important arc that has been building up for the 3 seasons. This is why I kind of have a problem splitting an anime into 2 cour and spreading it into the fall (though I can see why they did it for SxF).

I would be curious to see a breakdown in score by manga fans vs anime onlys for both series. I think if you're an anime only Kaguya might be more satisfying because it has a solid buildup and you know what to expect without reading the manga. Where as I've seen some complaints for SxF because of the heavy SOL component or being tired of following Anya's school adventures, which might feel like a weird pacing issue if you are an anime only that came in expecting more gag humor and or/action.

I would also be curious to see the scoring in Japan vs MAL. MAL users are predominantly Western and my understanding is that this platform is not heavily used by Japenese people (please correct me if I'm wrong though).

I'm a manga reader for both and I personally like SxF more. I like the adult cast, the SOL, and the buildup; where Kaguya's story kind of plateaued after the arc that this latest season covered, and the plot went a fantastical route that feels like an odd turn.

At the end of the day though, scores are arbitrary. People have different definitions of what the scores mean to them, so an anime's value shouldn't be judged by the score, and the score shouldn't be used as a marker of someone's taste to attack other users.
Jun 26, 2022 7:33 AM

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For me:

Kaguya-sama S3 > Spy x Family
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Spy x Family > entirety of Kaguya-sama
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I still prefer Spy X Family as a whole because Kaguya S3 1st half was weak but I prefer Kaguya S3 ending than Spy X Family.
Jun 26, 2022 7:56 AM
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I mean shouldn't we compare Spy X Fam with S1 of Kaguya sama? Sequels will obviously have higher scores (for similar quality) because of the simple fact that those who didn't like the first season wouldn't continue watching it anymore. Non sequels are generally watched by a wider range of audience and hence there will always be more people who don't like it.
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Well 1 is the mid point
The other is like a clear ending for 1 arc
I dont see why 1 is better
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I don't think it's a fair comparison because season 1 isn't over for SxF while S3 of Kaguya completed a pretty important arc that has been building up for the 3 seasons. This is why I kind of have a problem splitting an anime into 2 cour and spreading it into the fall (though I can see why they did it for SxF).

I would be curious to see a breakdown in score by manga fans vs anime onlys for both series. I think if you're an anime only Kaguya might be more satisfying because it has a solid buildup and you know what to expect without reading the manga. Where as I've seen some complaints for SxF because of the heavy SOL component or being tired of following Anya's school adventures, which might feel like a weird pacing issue if you are an anime only that came in expecting more gag humor and or/action.

I would also be curious to see the scoring in Japan vs MAL. MAL users are predominantly Western and my understanding is that this platform is not heavily used by Japenese people (please correct me if I'm wrong though).

I'm a manga reader for both and I personally like SxF more. I like the adult cast, the SOL, and the buildup; where Kaguya's story kind of plateaued after the arc that this latest season covered, and the plot went a fantastical route that feels like an odd turn.

At the end of the day though, scores are arbitrary. People have different definitions of what the scores mean to them, so an anime's value shouldn't be judged by the score, and the score shouldn't be used as a marker of someone's taste to attack other users.


I think you summed up my thoughts very well. I like the SxF manga much more than the Kaguya manga right now, because the former has a little bit of everything; action, comedy, drama, a bit of romance, etc. But the SxF anime focused much more on the slice of life part of the series, so I can understand the frustration of some anime onlys.
Jun 26, 2022 8:31 AM
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why are you watching anime!! because you have nothing up there in your head spy x family hasn't ended yet! you dumbass ony part 1 has released wait for part 2 ending you will be fucked
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Literally everything > Kaguya S1.
Who cares about S3 lmao
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Bruh, Love is War had it’s FINALE. Of course it’s gonna be HUGE. Spy x Family is only on part 1 of season 1. PART 1. If anime was how it used to be before having part 1 and part 2 of seasons then this wouldn’t be a discussion.
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well well, your thinking is okay too, but spy Family ending is not the true ending for this season, second part will be the truth ending for ended spy Family 1st season, I think it's not quite right to compare it to the ending of Kaguya S3, especially since there will be more events that will come out in the second part of Spy Family later on.

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I haven't experienced much of Kaguya-sama (it's in the list though), but I can see why the scores have sky rocketed.

Like a lot of people have said already, it is both a season finale and a satisfying conclusion to an arc that's been building up for a long time. SpyxFamily, on the other hand, hasn't actually ended and the last episode showed isn't even a part of the main storyline, it's more like a little side story. The manga even lists the chapter it adapted as an "extra mission", while the main story chapters are plainly called "missions".

Now, seeing as Kaguya-sama is already in season 3, it has an advantage SpyxFamily didn't have. It's rated mostly by people who were already fans.
SxF, despite having a high score, is being rated by a lot of people who had different expectations from what they finally ended up getting.
You can tell by the comments that most people who are giving it low scores are people who a) Didn't read the source material beforehand and b) were expecting something more along the lines of a noir film or action focused James Bond films, instead of a gag comedy with sparce serious moments sprinkled here and there. Dissappointed that the show is not living up to the "hype" when the show itself doesn't even bother building an actual "hype" whatsoever most of the time.
So, I'm optimistic for SxF's future, 'cause future parts and seasons will be watched by people who know exactly what they have gotten into.
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Is anyone seriously trying to compare the final episode of the hyped romcom franchise to the premiere season of the hyped spy action comedy? Did you create this thread just to cause another conflict?
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Is anyone seriously trying to compare the final episode of the hyped romcom franchise to the premiere season of the hyped spy action comedy? Did you create this thread just to cause another conflict?
I posted a thread in Kaguya. Someone said there was bias because it was in the Kaguya section, so I made a companion thread. The biases cancel each other out. It's simple math


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In before mods turn up by Kaguya CLEARS Spy x Anya
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Literally everything > Kaguya S1.
Who cares about S3 lmao

I stopped buying volumes after the fireworks arc. Heard it got worse after the anime aired and I never went back. What did I miss?
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LoveScope said:
kataneer said:
Literally everything > Kaguya S1.
Who cares about S3 lmao

I stopped buying volumes after the fireworks arc. Heard it got worse after the anime aired and I never went back. What did I miss?


Why did you stop?

Kaguya is way better after firework.

About Spy x Family, I read The manga. If we would compare-se first season of Kaguya, Spy would win.

But Kaguya gets way better and now we are peak Kaguya in The anime. That part and what happens after is really amazing, and I am not surprised when it got first place as a manga reader.

Spy x Family unfortunaley there was little advance plot wise. Anya still only have One stellar, most mission kinda Fill filler. They are good, but they don’t add much lorewise or building up some main plot.

Spy x Family lowered The score I think because it didn’t finish with a blast.
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One episode of Kaguya-Sama is better than entire Spy x Family.
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No need to compare them but yeah, easily better in my eyes.
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One episode of Kaguya-Sama is better than entire Spy x Family.

your comment is so bias lmao

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One episode of Kaguya-Sama is better than entire Spy x Family.

your comment is so bias lmao

I don't think so. Spy x Family is the most overrated anime of the decade, it doesn't even have good qualities but 100% fanservice.
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Okeanix said:
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your comment is so bias lmao

I don't think so. Spy x Family is the most overrated anime of the decade, it doesn't even have good qualities but 100% fanservice.

Well it's your opinion thou, i can't Deny that, absolutely i didnt watch Kaguya's since im listed to watch it later, ill try to watch it soon.

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LoveScope said:

I stopped buying volumes after the fireworks arc. Heard it got worse after the anime aired and I never went back. What did I miss?


Why did you stop?

It felt like the right time to drop it and also felt like an ending. I know Aka. After that he most likely didn't make it official or made a bs arc. Then he most likely turned his attention to his self insert and started focusing on the mobs and their misunderstandings. I mean the other main characters. I wish we had more stuff like Do Chokkyuu Kareshi x Kanojo, that's how you do a romcom.
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Why did you stop?

It felt like the right time to drop it and also felt like an ending. I know Aka. After that he most likely didn't make it official or made a bs arc. Then he most likely turned his attention to his self insert and started focusing on the mobs and their misunderstandings. I mean the other main characters. I wish we had more stuff like Do Chokkyuu Kareshi x Kanojo, that's how you do a romcom.


C’mom, you are very wrong. Yes, Ishigami and Iino a lot of attention and development, but Shirogane and Kaguya are The main characters and still having The most screentime, and the best arcs focus on them like festival arc and Ice Kaguya arc.

Actually most of their development is because of the main characters. The development of Kaguya and Ishigami is very beautiful. At the beggining he is scared of her and Kaguya don’t think much of Ishigami. Now they have a great and wholesome senpai/kouhai relationship.
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Penguim556 said:
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It felt like the right time to drop it and also felt like an ending. I know Aka. After that he most likely didn't make it official or made a bs arc. Then he most likely turned his attention to his self insert and started focusing on the mobs and their misunderstandings. I mean the other main characters. I wish we had more stuff like Do Chokkyuu Kareshi x Kanojo, that's how you do a romcom.


C’mom, you are very wrong. Yes, Ishigami and Iino a lot of attention and development, but Shirogane and Kaguya are The main characters and still having The most screentime, and the best arcs focus on them like festival arc and Ice Kaguya arc.

Actually most of their development is because of the main characters. The development of Kaguya and Ishigami is very beautiful. At the beggining he is scared of her and Kaguya don’t think much of Ishigami. Now they have a great and wholesome senpai/kouhai relationship.

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C’mom, you are very wrong. Yes, Ishigami and Iino a lot of attention and development, but Shirogane and Kaguya are The main characters and still having The most screentime, and the best arcs focus on them like festival arc and Ice Kaguya arc.

Actually most of their development is because of the main characters. The development of Kaguya and Ishigami is very beautiful. At the beggining he is scared of her and Kaguya don’t think much of Ishigami. Now they have a great and wholesome senpai/kouhai relationship.

Wait so I was right? Neat.


I don’t know where lol. If you really a problem with a story where it develops the main characters and secondary characters you are right, it is ‘bad’.

If it is so importante to you the story focus only in the main pair and the others are just plot devices, yes, Kaguya ‘fail’ here.

Besides, even with a little focus in others, Kaguya and Shirogane still have the best couple development of the roncoms I read.

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Well Kaguya sama S3 has been better than SpyxFamily from the start.
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I didn't enjoyed Spy x Family as much I would have anticipated. I was expecting a story of spy husband and assassin wife, but I got kid school drama.

OP of spy X family is bad. Ed is good. Comedy is fine and action ( which I was expecting more of it) is null.

They focuses too much on Anya. We seen only 1 yor mission. They don't even show the whole mission properly. They show few scene and then you have to assume they did their job.

If you compare to kaguya sama in terms of entertainment. S1 of kaguya >>>> S1 spy x family. Kaguya Sama delivered what they promised. It makes you laugh audibly. In kaguya sama, even side characters feel like main characters. Even if main character is not on screen, you don't miss them. That's how great written this show is. But in spy x family, main characters feel like side characters. Loid feel like half side character and half main, but yor feels like supporting character tbh. They named it spy x family, just name it Anya and her spy father because she gets way to much screentime. Which is annoying.
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I gave the same rating to both series, because I can't put 8.5 and I preferred to round up (Plus I read this part in the manga and loved it).

But you can't compare the beginning of a series, with the closing of another... As the end of an arc Kaguya S3 was perfect! This season of SxF is a very good start that will continue to reach a conclusion, which I hope will be equal to or better than Kaguya's.

But yes, Kaguya S3 takes the "best of the season". We'll see what happens with part two of SxF.
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Who. Cares.

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