Attack on Titan
rtx_50 said: the alliance aint helping marley only few of them wtf r u talking abt¿¿¿ rtx_50 said: ????????????if eren was eradicate marley its fine but the world nah |
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MyllerPhiem said: HyperL said: Nationalism is too insufficient a term to describe Floch. Ultra-nationalism is the minimum term to describe his ideals but we would have to go even further for better accuracy. It's neither nationalism nor ultranationalism when you're defending your people from a genocide! This is literally the opposite of the nazis who, indeed, were ultranationalists and wanted to eradicated those who were different for their own prosperity. Floch is nothing like that. He PROTECTS, not attacks. And the world drove Eldians into a corner where it became a choice of "we" or "them". Please. Eren was the one who turned this into a ultimatum by going full Rumbling. Genocide could've been prevented from either side. And Floch is all for genociding the "other" just as Marley is, or did you forget him burning civilians and their homes back in Liberio. He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". |
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HyperL said: total headcanon...He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". |
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HyperL said: MyllerPhiem said: It's neither nationalism nor ultranationalism when you're defending your people from a genocide! This is literally the opposite of the nazis who, indeed, were ultranationalists and wanted to eradicated those who were different for their own prosperity. Floch is nothing like that. He PROTECTS, not attacks. And the world drove Eldians into a corner where it became a choice of "we" or "them". Please. Eren was the one who turned this into a ultimatum by going full Rumbling. Genocide could've been prevented from either side. And Floch is all for genociding the "other" just as Marley is, or did you forget him burning civilians and their homes back in Liberio. He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". Marley's whole plan is to commit genocide against Eldians. They're the ones that started this whole conflict. They're the ones that sent titans to Paradis. Ffs, the started discriminating Eldians just out fear of their potential. Only one side came to Paradis to commit genocide. Eren, Floch and his followers are defending their people and doing what the enemy intended to do to them: eradicate them. Because if they don't, the world will keep attacking and with enough technological advance, titans would eventually become useless. It's your decision if you like Armin, Mikasa and Gabitch better. But don't act like Eren is the villain here. |
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evoniee said: HyperL said: total headcanon...He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". Headcanon is totally ignoring all that he says and does back in S4p1, or even this here p2, to paint this neat picture of a person who only means well and it's only seeking to destroy the "other" cuz he's out of alternatives. |
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| Floch's motives were understandable but down the road he got corrupted by the great desire of a free Paradis. |
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MyllerPhiem said: HyperL said: Please. Eren was the one who turned this into a ultimatum by going full Rumbling. Genocide could've been prevented from either side. And Floch is all for genociding the "other" just as Marley is, or did you forget him burning civilians and their homes back in Liberio. He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". Marley's whole plan is to commit genocide against Eldians. They're the ones that started this whole conflict. They're the ones that sent titans to Paradis. Ffs, the started discriminating Eldians just out fear of their potential. Only one side came to Paradis to commit genocide. Eren, Floch and his followers are defending their people and doing what the enemy intended to do to them: eradicate them. Because if they don't, the world will keep attacking and with enough technological advance, titans would eventually become useless. It's your decision if you like Armin, Mikasa and Gabitch better. But don't act like Eren is the villain here. "technological advance" is only a issue if you let them. With the power to flatten anything with the rumbling, suppressing the worlds technology would be doable. Instead of genocide they could've used the rumbling to become the main power of the world and subjugate the others nations so that they couldn't overcome the rumbling's strength. And I'll just tell you right now, there's more to Eren decision you will learn later. |
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HyperL said: MyllerPhiem said: Marley's whole plan is to commit genocide against Eldians. They're the ones that started this whole conflict. They're the ones that sent titans to Paradis. Ffs, the started discriminating Eldians just out fear of their potential. Only one side came to Paradis to commit genocide. Eren, Floch and his followers are defending their people and doing what the enemy intended to do to them: eradicate them. Because if they don't, the world will keep attacking and with enough technological advance, titans would eventually become useless. It's your decision if you like Armin, Mikasa and Gabitch better. But don't act like Eren is the villain here. "technological advance" is only a issue if you let them. With the power to flatten anything with the rumbling, suppressing the worlds technology would be doable. Instead of genocide they could've used the rumbling to become the main power of the world and subjugate the others nations so that they couldn't overcome the rumbling's strength. And I'll just tell you right now, there's more to Eren decision you will learn later. So without Eren around, Eldians would be screwed. So when Eren dies his early death, then what? You are taking chances where chances cannot be taken. A, say, 70% chance of that plan working out is not enough, when failure means literal extinction. Marley and the world started it, Eren wants to end it. He's correct. If there's nazis in this anime, it's Marley and the traitor group. |
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| his moral values are wrong, genocide in every form is bad, but that now doesn't matter, he is a well written character that died for his country, and I respect him |
| Hail Floch! Hail Our People! Hail Victory! Fuhrer Floch, 66 (FF) my Yeagerist brother! In all seriousness, him & the Yeagerists were the most sympathetic & understandable group left. Pre-timeskip, they made the choice to abandon their humanity in order to defeat the inhumane titan onslaught. Post timeskip, they are nationalists who have a strong sense of racial unity and fight to secure the existence of their people by any means necessary. The people who keep railing on about the 50-100 year plan aren't thinking about the future of Eldian children 500+ years from now. |
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MyllerPhiem said: HyperL said: "technological advance" is only a issue if you let them. With the power to flatten anything with the rumbling, suppressing the worlds technology would be doable. Instead of genocide they could've used the rumbling to become the main power of the world and subjugate the others nations so that they couldn't overcome the rumbling's strength. And I'll just tell you right now, there's more to Eren decision you will learn later. So without Eren around, Eldians would be screwed. So when Eren dies his early death, then what? You are taking chances where chances cannot be taken. A, say, 70% chance of that plan working out is not enough, when failure means literal extinction. Marley and the world started it, Eren wants to end it. He's correct. If there's nazis in this anime, it's Marley and the traitor group. What? Did you forget you can pass the founders powers around? Obviously they would feed Eren to someone else when his time is up, and with a royal line secured in Historia Paradis would have access to the Rumbling forever after. Also, you can call Marley fascist all you want cuz they are, but not the Alliance, they don't want either side to genocide each other. |
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MyllerPhiem said: HyperL said: Please. Eren was the one who turned this into a ultimatum by going full Rumbling. Genocide could've been prevented from either side. And Floch is all for genociding the "other" just as Marley is, or did you forget him burning civilians and their homes back in Liberio. He's not out there just to protect his country, his ideals are one of supremacy and superiority over the "other". Marley's whole plan is to commit genocide against Eldians. They're the ones that started this whole conflict. They're the ones that sent titans to Paradis. Ffs, the started discriminating Eldians just out fear of their potential. Only one side came to Paradis to commit genocide. Eren, Floch and his followers are defending their people and doing what the enemy intended to do to them: eradicate them. Because if they don't, the world will keep attacking and with enough technological advance, titans would eventually become useless. It's your decision if you like Armin, Mikasa and Gabitch better. But don't act like Eren is the villain here. I always fail to understand how literally almost everyone is unable to grasp everything that you said from the story to the point of totally ignoring those important facts as they go on in circles trying to justify failed characters. |
HyperL said: Also, you can call Marley fascist all you want cuz they are, but not the Alliance, they don't want either side to genocide each other. What they want is of no meaning when the consequence of their actions is exactly that, genocide. They simply go "less people dying better than more people dying" and justify Eldian's eradication that way. Also not sure what the rumbling would have of importance in the future. The rumbling turns Eldians that drank Zeke's spinal fluid into titan and controls the huge titans. But neither would exist in the far future, not necessarily. In any other story, Eren and Floch would be the clear heroes, a small group fighting the whole world against its plan to genocide their small nation. And yet people go "woah, Mikasa so badass, standing in a rain of blood!!!1" and still see her and her group as the heroes. Screw that. |
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| Bruh people really do be throwing terms like 'nationalist' and 'facist' while having no clue what these terms mean. Does no one realise that the show is deliberately meant to be morally grey? |
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| Come on now... I actually like Floch's character a lot, but this isn't even Floch stanning it's straight up Armin slander lol. Half the crosses on Armin are false. |
Thorf said: Come on now... I actually like Floch's character a lot, but this isn't even Floch stanning it's straight up Armin slander lol. Half the crosses on Armin are false. it kind of tru though, what armin doing all this time? just whine and spreading umi da 'idealistic' belief whithout any shit done. cosplyaing as hisu is his peak accomplishment. |
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evoniee said: I'm too lazy to go into detail so I'll just say what's clearly false. He fully sacrificed himself to stop the enemy. That's blatantly forgetting season 3 part 2. He was a "real" character without the special abilities, why do you think he was even somewhat considered to be saved instead of Erwin? He had potential because of how smart he is. My man's been thinking of either plans or answers since season 1-2. Stuck with his ideals to the end is a sticky one, because he technically has, but that requires explanation and I'm pretty tired. There's multiple crosses that should be ticks fam.Thorf said: Come on now... I actually like Floch's character a lot, but this isn't even Floch stanning it's straight up Armin slander lol. Half the crosses on Armin are false. it kind of tru though, what armin doing all this time? just whine and spreading umi da 'idealistic' belief whithout any shit done. cosplyaing as hisu is his peak accomplishment. |
LoliFactoryOwner said: you really don't missed the show didn't you. erwins goal was to discover what was beyond the walls but he realised that his desire to do so was what was destroying him from the inside and that's why he pushed the syringe away from levi. levi understood that erwin deserved to be in peace and erwin was fine dying not achieving his dream which was consuming him. if he was revived instead of armin he would not supoort the yeagerists, erwin would not supoort genocide or be against it really he would have no reason to lead and would be horrified to learn the truth about the outside walls. erwin believed in preserving humanity, they believed the people behind the walls were the only humans and if he found our they were more humans and that some of them were the cause of the titans coming to eldia he would support a mini rumbling not goddamn destruction of everyone. Erwin would flip like Eren, or even worse when he would realise that the outside world he coveted so much wants to wipe them all out. Also, he didn't consciously slap the serum away. He was just relieving that moment in school when he raised his hands to ask his teacher about the outside world while taking last breaths. Letting him rest was a fine closure to his character. He would also understand mini rumbling is a nonsense plan because he has been a commander. |
| Floch is a true gigachad, fuck Isayama's absurd plot armour. |
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Inorichi said: I genuinely don't understand how anyone can like Floch unironically. Even looking at Floch as a bootleg Erwin replacement, he barely has any redeeming qualities. No charisma, no intelligence, no composure. His motivations and goals make no sense. No idea if he's actually planned this out with Eren or if he's just sucking up, but he's got no chill. And the half-assed attempts at making Floch look slightly competent backfire every single time since he never ends up actually shooting anyone. His existence makes little to no difference in the story. At best, it's the difference of taking the flying boat in a few less hours and a bunch of mob chars dying or not. The man couldn't even kill Yelena cause his dumbass was straight up recap monologuing. Has a gun right up against the azumabito grandma's head and somehow ends up getting armlocked by this old lady cause he's gotta get up and pace the room while he thinks... Can definitely understand why so many people hate the main cast now, but Floch is straight up useless. eat your anime with plot armour that could tople fairy tail somewhere else. |
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rach1m4n said: Inorichi said: I genuinely don't understand how anyone can like Floch unironically. Even looking at Floch as a bootleg Erwin replacement, he barely has any redeeming qualities. No charisma, no intelligence, no composure. His motivations and goals make no sense. No idea if he's actually planned this out with Eren or if he's just sucking up, but he's got no chill. And the half-assed attempts at making Floch look slightly competent backfire every single time since he never ends up actually shooting anyone. His existence makes little to no difference in the story. At best, it's the difference of taking the flying boat in a few less hours and a bunch of mob chars dying or not. The man couldn't even kill Yelena cause his dumbass was straight up recap monologuing. Has a gun right up against the azumabito grandma's head and somehow ends up getting armlocked by this old lady cause he's gotta get up and pace the room while he thinks... Can definitely understand why so many people hate the main cast now, but Floch is straight up useless. holy shieeeeeeeeet, BASED |
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| But then he got taken down by an old lady + got shot by a kid. Yeah, he truly is a hero. |
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| I'll bite. Yeah, Floch turned into a badass. |
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| FLOCHCHADS > explanING how floch is a better written character and do his thing according the situation and his experience Random tourist trolling the forum > HAHAHA FLOCH PINNED BY GRANDMA AND 360 NO SCOPED it's so easy to see those trolls |
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Thorf said: Come on now... I actually like Floch's character a lot, but this isn't even Floch stanning it's straight up Armin slander lol. Half the crosses on Armin are false. Armin is the biggest disappointment of the series. After all the prep talk "Armin so great!", what has he done all these years? He literally came up with 1-2 ideas, that's it. He should be making plans nonstop. Weak. |
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deg said: Floch is a White Eldian Supremacist thats the problem with Nationalism it breeds that kind of mentality like he said it himself he wants the Eldian Empire to rise again Versus the rest of the world who want Eldia to fall forever. |
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OneEyeOwl said: Well f**k floch,he's the most irritating chara in aot even gabi was better than him at first, glad he died. You know that's untrue. Gabi = worst |
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MyllerPhiem said: That's not the argument though. I do see what you're saying, but the point is that the crosses are wrong lol.Thorf said: Come on now... I actually like Floch's character a lot, but this isn't even Floch stanning it's straight up Armin slander lol. Half the crosses on Armin are false. Armin is the biggest disappointment of the series. After all the prep talk "Armin so great!", what has he done all these years? He literally came up with 1-2 ideas, that's it. He should be making plans nonstop. Weak. |
HyperL said: rach1m4n said: I love how most of peoples sole argument to against him is nothing but nationalism, who/which nationalist that violated you? Nationalism is too insufficient a term to describe Floch. Ultra-nationalism is the minimum term to describe his ideals but we would have to go even further for better accuracy. He lives in a universe where their nation and people have been oppressed and slaughtered for years due to racism and gaslighting by the entire planet. Of course he's an ultra-nationalist, who wouldn't be if they were an Eldian in AoT, except if you're a cuckold like the Alliance members then I might understand |
| Sympathizing with yeagerists is not the issue btw, but not at all associating with the perspective of the Scouts at all definitely is. As someone who actually wanted more prominent characters to explore and represent the side of the yeagerists rather than them mostly being consisted of npcs, I don't think I am in any position to demand any of that when even after the seemingly caricaturist portrayal of this faction we still have as many people view scouts' actions as 'not making sense'. I very much appreciate floch’s character writing but he literally represents how war and trauma can affect someone so negatively as to take a path so horrible lmao Both sides are the same Both have committed horrible acts, both have innocents One side does not deserve destruction But yeah Ofc The 'cuckolk' Alliance who trying to prevent the massacre of billions of innocent people are traitors, they are betraying their 'comrades' Floch who made his comrades drink wine with spinal fluid,yeagerists that literally sacrificed lots of military police, scouts with levi in the forest the titans in Shiganshina killed people, killed those who disagreed with him, organized a genocide where even Paradis' people died– but yeah it's FINE! He's saving ELDIA ofc they are just Eldians who just want to save their people and their country by killing their own comrades and real heroic stuff mate The reason why Floch & many Yeagerists are called fascist is not because they are supporting the rumbling but the way they are act as people with power. As a Paradisian, he has all the right to do what he thinks is right for the country, whether it is right or not is a different deal altogether. The things Yeagerists say and do like "They are no match for Subjects of Ymir!" is clearly an extremely racist statement showing what they believe in is the superiority of the Eldian race, which is going too far when these people are "supposedly" doing this just to "protect" themselves. There is a fine line between doing it for the sake of Paradis and doing it for the "New Eldian Empire" which they have clearly crossed. As shown in Chapters 125, 126 & 128, they have been using only force and fear upon the people who are reluctant to comply or are not agreeing with their views, providing them with a ultimatum of becoming bootlickers or just simply dead, which is again not a way to show that they are not into this for also the prospect of gaining power themselves. https://twitter.com/AksharJain/status/1506274051375104000 never thought that people could root for a fictional country to the point of celebrating global genocide in favor of said country, but here we are. Welcome to the Attack on Titan Fandom Especially not when said country was heavily criticized by the story and an entire arc was spent on showing that that country has terrible sides to it. |
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