Does Isekai really preventing other fan favs series to get adapted as quickly as possible? Your take on this?
| I have seen multiple claims over multiple threads by multiple people regarding while do think the popularity of isekai is a factor in this from a business standpoint but i dont think its main reason there are several more reason as to why an anime adaption of a fan fav manga or novel seems to come out longer than usual. Thoughts on this. |
| The popularity of Isekai is the reason for the popularity of anime adaptations of isekai. You might as well blame idols, romcoms, action shonens and CGDCT for your non-hyped, non-trendy manga not getting adaptation. |
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| I would say yes but at the same time I wouldn't be too sad about it, most of the isekai trash being adapted has some Horrific animation and you wouldn't wish for that on a well written story. |
| No, that's not how it works. There are several factors why or why not a manga gets an adaptation. |
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| I guess it is doing that for a fraction of the marked...but on the other hand the same production committees would pick some equally bland titles instead of said isekai ones if there was no such trend. |
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| maybe a little bit but I don’t think it is anything dramatic |
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| While it's no doubt much more complicated than anyone outside the industry knows, there's only a finite amount of studios to go around, so if more work on Isekai there are less available for other projects. So, definitely some sort of minor link, at least. |
| Well I for one already loved Lain. |
| The good studios are almost never the ones adapting isekai anyway |
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| It could be possible that the Isekai genre is preventing other fan favorite series from getting adaptations as quickly as possible. Right now the Isekai genre is still extremely popular. So it would makes sense the industry is focused more on it. In any industry, no one is going to produce anything with haste that isn't selling better then something else. |
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| Yes, if David Production stopped producing billions of isekai every month we'd have part 7 anime by now! ....oh wait |
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| Yeah I'm sure the studios would love to adapt these shows that a lot of people really like but they can't because they have to adapt the isekais that obviously no one likes but they still have to adapt them |
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PhillipMannering said: Yeah I'm sure the studios would love to adapt these shows that a lot of people really like but they can't because they have to adapt the isekais that obviously no one likes but they still have to adapt them Bro pardon but this was a sarcastic post right? :p |
| yeah it's isekai's fault that umineko chiru has not got anime adaptation, fuck isekai |
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Mention said: yeah it's isekai's fault that umineko chiru has not got anime adaptation, fuck isekai Vns are in general have very bad track record with anime adaptions they need more clannad, steins gate tier adaptions |
| Cold hard reality....It all a business in the end, no matter what people idolise or despise. If people's favorite are deemed as something which will produce money, i will get a adaptation. If not, it wont. Thats about it. |
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| it's because isekai adaptations tend to be cheaper to make and get easy profits as long as they have cute anime girls in it |
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| I don't think that's how it works also some people in those kind of posts often exaggerate things they make it sound like 70% anime those days are Isekai while it's obviously not the case. Popular stuff always get attention because money anyway it doesn't matter if it's Isekai or not. |
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| I can't really answer, I don't even understand how the anime market works like that, I can only work on observations and speculation. Honestly, though, I'd say no. Isekai is a prominent theme but it is no genre. I'd imagine genre would captivate more people than not rather than a theme alone. |
| A-1, MAPPA, Wit, TMS Entertainment, Doga Kobo, Bones, P.A. In other words the high profile studios don't even touch isekai. |
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FMmatron said: A-1, MAPPA, Wit, TMS Entertainment, Doga Kobo, Bones, P.A. In other words the high profile studios don't even touch isekai. A-1 has brought us several successful isekai titles like "Grimgar", "Gate", and above all "SAO" which has had a major impact that jump started the isekai genre the way it is today. We can actually thank A-1 for successfully influencing how the anime industry has become today with isekai. |
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ColourWheel said: FMmatron said: A-1, MAPPA, Wit, TMS Entertainment, Doga Kobo, Bones, P.A. In other words the high profile studios don't even touch isekai. A-1 has brought us several successful isekai titles like "Grimgar", "Gate", and above all "SAO" which has had a major impact that jump started the isekai genre the way it is today. We can actually thank A-1 for successfully influencing how the anime industry has become today with isekai. and here I expected a smartass to mention Sonny Boy Fair enough, I should've chosen my words more carefully. But point is that it's not preventing them from giving us other kind of anime as well. Quite the opposite, just in the last two years they adapted two of the most anticipated series, Kaguya-sama and 86. Aside from SAO(which I will count as isekai in this context), it's been years since their last isekai anime. Worth mentioning here is that those you mentioned weren't generic copy paste isekai. |
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| No. Even if isekai entirely dried up tomorrow doesn't mean there would actually be a replacement and that replacement would be something you actually cared about. People just have a weird zero sum game mentality when it comes to what genres a media industry adapts. Isekai dying doesn't really help the industry might even harm it. Plus I mean outside of a few studios like Bind, A-1, White Fox there aren't that many high profile studios that do isekai. The vast majority of isekai glut is made by pretty average studios like Silver Link which I don't think anyone is going to be gushing over. |
FMmatron said: ColourWheel said: A-1 has brought us several successful isekai titles like "Grimgar", "Gate", and above all "SAO" which has had a major impact that jump started the isekai genre the way it is today. We can actually thank A-1 for successfully influencing how the anime industry has become today with isekai. and here I expected a smartass to mention Sonny Boy Fair enough, I should've chosen my words more carefully. But point is that it's not preventing them from giving us other kind of anime as well. Quite the opposite, just in the last two years they adapted two of the most anticipated series, Kaguya-sama and 86. Aside from SAO(which I will count as isekai in this context), it's been years since their last isekai anime. Worth mentioning here is that those you mentioned weren't generic copy paste isekai. It's funny that you mention "Sonny Boy" but cross out your statement because even Madhouse has the "Overlord" series. Season 4 of "Overlord" is suppose to release next year. But I understand your point. I mean I don't just watch isekai anime and it would suck if everything released today in the industry was just isekai. |
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ColourWheel said: FMmatron said: and here I expected a smartass to mention Sonny Boy Fair enough, I should've chosen my words more carefully. But point is that it's not preventing them from giving us other kind of anime as well. Quite the opposite, just in the last two years they adapted two of the most anticipated series, Kaguya-sama and 86. Aside from SAO(which I will count as isekai in this context), it's been years since their last isekai anime. Worth mentioning here is that those you mentioned weren't generic copy paste isekai. It's funny that you mention "Sonny Boy" but cross out your statement because even Madhouse has the "Overlord" series. Season 4 of "Overlord" is suppose to release next year. But I understand your point. I mean I don't just watch isekai anime and it would suck if everything released today in the industry was just isekai. You just reminded me that Sonny Boy was from Madhouse and not MAPPA haha. So far I'm not bothered by the amount of isekai either. There's still enough to watch. But one can't deny that they take the biggest share of the current seasonal market. |
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FMmatron said: A-1, MAPPA, Wit, TMS Entertainment, Doga Kobo, Bones, P.A. In other words the high profile studios don't even touch isekai. Now that you mention it, I went and checked and it does hold true for the most part. Some go even further it seems lol, it seems that IG never made a light novel adaptation except couple of Bungaku Shoujo OVAs now more than a decade ago now. |
1. Not an adaptation of hugely popular source thus not trying to milk some trend despite being isekai. 2. MadHouse is not the brand it was in the past. |
Tsarko said: FMmatron said: A-1, MAPPA, Wit, TMS Entertainment, Doga Kobo, Bones, P.A. In other words the high profile studios don't even touch isekai. Now that you mention it, I went and checked and it does hold true for the most part. Some go even further it seems lol, it seems that IG never made a light novel adaptation except couple of Bungaku Shoujo OVAs now more than a decade ago now. I didn't check, but my gut feeling told me so since I could hardly think of any big shot isekai aside from No Game No Life and Re:Zero that came to mind. But now I remember that J.C. staff also had a big hitter with Zero no Tsukaima and the masterpiece Okaasan online. I was about to say Danmachi too, but on a second thought, it's just fantasy(I still think it appeals primarily to the average isekai fan) They also did the Konosuba movie. Deen is another famous or rather infamous studio that did the first two seasons of the franchise. So yeah, a noticeable amount of the trashy ones are indeed from no name studios. So I guess isekai is still not there yet and it might never reach the same status as nekketsu/battle shounen for obvious reasons. I rather see it as an otaku thing that lacks the mass appeal. And damn, I forgot about Production I.G. As a fan of the studio it shames me, but good too know that they kept it classy for most parts. They still commited some other sins in the past...like Panzer Dragoon, lmao. alshu said: 1. Not an adaptation of hugely popular source thus not trying to milk some trend despite being isekai. 2. MadHouse is not the brand it was in the past. Sonny Boy is definitely not something I would lump together with the other modern isekai. |
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| Well, a series would receive an adaptation when the publisher wants to sell more, so Isekai isn't a genre to blame. |
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FMmatron said: Tsarko said: Now that you mention it, I went and checked and it does hold true for the most part. Some go even further it seems lol, it seems that IG never made a light novel adaptation except couple of Bungaku Shoujo OVAs now more than a decade ago now. I didn't check, but my gut feeling told me so since I could hardly think of any big shot isekai aside from No Game No Life and Re:Zero that came to mind. But now I remember that J.C. staff also had a big hitter with Zero no Tsukaima and the masterpiece Okaasan online. I was about to say Danmachi too, but on a second thought, it's just fantasy(I still think it appeals primarily to the average isekai fan) They also did the Konosuba movie. Deen is another famous or rather infamous studio that did the first two seasons of the franchise. So yeah, a noticeable amount of the trashy ones are indeed from no name studios. So I guess isekai is still not there yet and it might never reach the same status as nekketsu/battle shounen for obvious reasons. I rather see it as an otaku thing that lacks the mass appeal. And damn, I forgot about Production I.G. As a fan of the studio it shames me, but good too know that they kept it classy for most parts. They still commited some other sins in the past...like Panzer Dragoon, lmao. I, too, don't see isekai ever having mass appeal like battle shounen do (hopefully we are right). Even if you gave them great production values I still think they wouldn't make it. Maybe some would but most wouldn't, unless we are talking about 'isekai' such as Twelve Kingdoms, but just mentioning TK together with other isekai is a grave insult to it. Also, what are you talking about?! We all know Panzer Dragon and Abunai Sisters are two pillars, two grand masterpieces of the studio. Ghost in the Shell and Run with the Wind can only wish they were that good! :3 Really now, I am convinced those two were the result of the staff being drunk after Ghost in the Shell and Sky Crawlers wrap-up parties and no one can convince me otherwise. I don't think better explanation for those even exists. |
Tsarko said: FMmatron said: I didn't check, but my gut feeling told me so since I could hardly think of any big shot isekai aside from No Game No Life and Re:Zero that came to mind. But now I remember that J.C. staff also had a big hitter with Zero no Tsukaima and the masterpiece Okaasan online. I was about to say Danmachi too, but on a second thought, it's just fantasy(I still think it appeals primarily to the average isekai fan) They also did the Konosuba movie. Deen is another famous or rather infamous studio that did the first two seasons of the franchise. So yeah, a noticeable amount of the trashy ones are indeed from no name studios. So I guess isekai is still not there yet and it might never reach the same status as nekketsu/battle shounen for obvious reasons. I rather see it as an otaku thing that lacks the mass appeal. And damn, I forgot about Production I.G. As a fan of the studio it shames me, but good too know that they kept it classy for most parts. They still commited some other sins in the past...like Panzer Dragoon, lmao. I, too, don't see isekai ever having mass appeal like battle shounen do (hopefully we are right). Even if you gave them great production values I still think they wouldn't make it. Maybe some would but most wouldn't, unless we are talking about 'isekai' such as Twelve Kingdoms, but just mentioning TK together with other isekai is a grave insult to it. Also, what are you talking about?! We all know Panzer Dragon and Abunai Sisters are two pillars, two grand masterpieces of the studio. Ghost in the Shell and Run with the Wind can only wish they were that good! :3 Really now, I am convinced those two were the result of the staff being drunk after Ghost in the Shell and Sky Crawlers wrap-up parties and no one can convince me otherwise. I don't think better explanation for those even exists. It would be interesting to see how something like TK would fare nowadays. In particular the feedback on Youko as a character. Is she something fans of the subgenre would like to see? Would she attract a different crowd? Many comments I saw in the episode discussion threads were pretty yikes. So I guess she wouldn't do too well. Imagine going from Ghost in the Shell to that. The first paragraph of lawlmartz top review raised a good point. What happened on that day? How? Why? Haha. |
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| Nope. It is responsible for its own saturated market, though. |
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AnimeFA78N said: I have seen multiple claims over multiple threads by multiple people regarding while do think the popularity of isekai is a factor in this from a business standpoint but i dont think its main reason there are several more reason as to why an anime adaption of a fan fav manga or novel seems to come out longer than usual. Thoughts on this. If we look at the last few years with numbers and numbers only, I can probably agree that Isekei has started to oversaturate the market. To add icing on the cake, I usually love seeing new harem series come out, but you don't see that much anymore. I know harem series don't come out as much as they use to but having Isekei come out ever season is not helping either. Don't get me wrong, I love a good adapted Isekei anime as the next person but enough is enough, you know? |
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dustinator1991 said: AnimeFA78N said: I have seen multiple claims over multiple threads by multiple people regarding while do think the popularity of isekai is a factor in this from a business standpoint but i dont think its main reason there are several more reason as to why an anime adaption of a fan fav manga or novel seems to come out longer than usual. Thoughts on this. If we look at the last few years with numbers and numbers only, I can probably agree that Isekei has started to oversaturate the market. It add icing on the cake, I usually love seeing new harem series come out but you don't see that much anymore. I know harem series don't come out as much as they use to but having Isekei come out ever season is not helping either. Don't get me wrong, I love a good adapted Isekei anime as the next person but enough is enough, you know? I dont mind going back to normal fantasy action too as long as i get stuff like misfit danmachi goblin slayer seven spellblades with lots of action i dont mind stuff either |
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