86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
| yeah, If you watch an anime and when watching it, it's like watching 5 minutes or 10 minutes, it means you really enjoy the anime. |
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| My thoughts exactly. This series deserves all the praise it gets. |
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| Wtf is wrong with the fanbase of this show that can't do punctuations ? |
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| As a LN reader, I'd say it's consistent with it's greatness since episode 8 of first cour. The thing is many people are now slowly getting used to the elements in the show and appreciating them as they should. This is the magic of a good novel adaptation (Other example: Monogatari series). For mangas, it doesn't happen, because the style and techniques are understood early on. |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
| Agreed. Easily my favorite of the year. |
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| While I don't hate this show, I have a hard time seeing what makes it great. I don't hate it or anything. I'm just not seeing what makes it so great. What am I missing? |
UserAnonymous117 said: I don’t think that’s going to help.animedude1287 said: A lot, check S1 againWhile I don't hate this show, I have a hard time seeing what makes it great. I don't hate it or anything. I'm just not seeing what makes it so great. What am I missing? |
UserAnonymous117 said: I still disagree. I’ve already watched season 1, why would my opinion change if I watch it agin? I know what happens, so it just seems like a waste of time.animedude1287 said: It will. also it doesn't need a Deus Ex-Machina kind of thing to get interesting. Also, the character moves the plot, not the plot that moves the charactersI don’t think that’s going to help. |
animedude1287 said: I don't want to be that guy, but why did you insist to continue watching 86 if that's the case? Why makes yourself suffer?UserAnonymous117 said: I still disagree. I’ve already watched season 1, why would my opinion change if I watch it agin? I know what happens, so it just seems like a waste of time.It will. also it doesn't need a Deus Ex-Machina kind of thing to get interesting. Also, the character moves the plot, not the plot that moves the characters 86 anime is designed to be rewatched. The directing has many symbolism, parallels and subtle hints to potray what's the character's thinking at the time. You may see Lena's an annoying and naive girl who whined all the time and not seeing how much she tried to change and finally breaking the limit. You may see Shin as a stoic character only and not noticing inner turmoil in his heart that slowly eating away at him. Or 86ers could come out as ungrateful children soldiers that didn't accept peace, but in truth they represent what war vets experienced in life. Or how the anime tried to show you that war isn't something you cheered on by exposing eugene's death, which you don't even know what killed him, where he died and how useless his death was. All those are provided by directing, and you may or may not miss it during first time you watch. Unless you don't want your opinion to change in the first place, then I don't have anything more to say to you. |
| Current favourite ships: - Chika x Satowa (Kono Oto Tomare) - Shin x Lena (86) - Vanitas x Jeanne (Vanitas no Carte) |
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mimisannn333 said: animedude1287 said: I don't want to be that guy, but why did you insist to continue watching 86 if that's the case? Why makes yourself suffer?I still disagree. I’ve already watched season 1, why would my opinion change if I watch it agin? I know what happens, so it just seems like a waste of time. 86 anime is designed to be rewatched. The directing has many symbolism, parallels and subtle hints to potray what's the character's thinking at the time. You may see Lena's an annoying and naive girl who whined all the time and not seeing how much she tried to change and finally breaking the limit. You may see Shin as a stoic character only and not noticing inner turmoil in his heart that slowly eating away at him. Or 86ers could come out as ungrateful children soldiers that didn't accept peace, but in truth they represent what war vets experienced in life. Or how the anime tried to show you that war isn't something you cheered on by exposing eugene's death, which you don't even know what killed him, where he died and how useless his death was. All those are provided by directing, and you may or may not miss it during first time you watch. Unless you don't want your opinion to change in the first place, then I don't have anything more to say to you. Well, I didn't say it was a bad anime, I'm just saying I don't see what makes it so great to people. Most of the time with animes with a part 2, part 2 has the most improvements about them, like Re:zero. Most people don't like part 1 of season 2, but some like how part 2 was of that season. I want to still give this one a try. As for re-watching it, I just don't see why my thoughts would change. I remember part 1 and what happens to everyone. Yes, it's one of that life is unfair, and Shin takes on a great mission to bring death to those on the field so they don't have to suffer from the enemy. Still, they could make things less obvious. |
animedude1287 said: mimisannn333 said: I don't want to be that guy, but why did you insist to continue watching 86 if that's the case? Why makes yourself suffer? 86 anime is designed to be rewatched. The directing has many symbolism, parallels and subtle hints to potray what's the character's thinking at the time. You may see Lena's an annoying and naive girl who whined all the time and not seeing how much she tried to change and finally breaking the limit. You may see Shin as a stoic character only and not noticing inner turmoil in his heart that slowly eating away at him. Or 86ers could come out as ungrateful children soldiers that didn't accept peace, but in truth they represent what war vets experienced in life. Or how the anime tried to show you that war isn't something you cheered on by exposing eugene's death, which you don't even know what killed him, where he died and how useless his death was. All those are provided by directing, and you may or may not miss it during first time you watch. Unless you don't want your opinion to change in the first place, then I don't have anything more to say to you. Well, I didn't say it was a bad anime, I'm just saying I don't see what makes it so great to people. Most of the time with animes with a part 2, part 2 has the most improvements about them, like Re:zero. Most people don't like part 1 of season 2, but some like how part 2 was of that season. I want to still give this one a try. As for re-watching it, I just don't see why my thoughts would change. I remember part 1 and what happens to everyone. Yes, it's one of that life is unfair, and Shin takes on a great mission to bring death to those on the field so they don't have to suffer from the enemy. Still, they could make things less obvious. Are you saying that other posters aren't allowed to say they think it's great until they've persuaded you!? And I'll bet you missed a ton of subtle references in the first season, I found re-watching a few times very rewarding, but if you think one run through is enough well that's your loss. But at the end of the day what you hate, like or love is entirely personal to you and probably has little to do with any objective evaluation of the show. So you go on "not hating" it if that's your thing. |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
animedude1287 said: Fair enough if you want to give a try. As for your 2nd paragraph, it's more like of the beauty of the directing rather than things or story that is told to you that you say 'obvious'. Example: how Lena bought different flowers after asking 86's real names, Lena's always alone when she's communicating while 86 are always together, Lena redecorate her room in 2nd cour, parallelism between Lena and Shin on ep12/13 when they got theirselves ready, one in bright room and one in the dark and many more I can write an essay of them. It's something not everyone can appreciate, so I understand if you find the anime mediocre or nothing new, but 86 has movie-like directing that is unusual for an anime and it's thought provoking.mimisannn333 said: I don't want to be that guy, but why did you insist to continue watching 86 if that's the case? Why makes yourself suffer? 86 anime is designed to be rewatched. The directing has many symbolism, parallels and subtle hints to potray what's the character's thinking at the time. You may see Lena's an annoying and naive girl who whined all the time and not seeing how much she tried to change and finally breaking the limit. You may see Shin as a stoic character only and not noticing inner turmoil in his heart that slowly eating away at him. Or 86ers could come out as ungrateful children soldiers that didn't accept peace, but in truth they represent what war vets experienced in life. Or how the anime tried to show you that war isn't something you cheered on by exposing eugene's death, which you don't even know what killed him, where he died and how useless his death was. All those are provided by directing, and you may or may not miss it during first time you watch. Unless you don't want your opinion to change in the first place, then I don't have anything more to say to you. Well, I didn't say it was a bad anime, I'm just saying I don't see what makes it so great to people. Most of the time with animes with a part 2, part 2 has the most improvements about them, like Re:zero. Most people don't like part 1 of season 2, but some like how part 2 was of that season. I want to still give this one a try. As for re-watching it, I just don't see why my thoughts would change. I remember part 1 and what happens to everyone. Yes, it's one of that life is unfair, and Shin takes on a great mission to bring death to those on the field so they don't have to suffer from the enemy. Still, they could make things less obvious. Plus I like both MCs and this anime relies heavily on the character, so that's probably another problem if you can't relate or like the MCs. |
| Current favourite ships: - Chika x Satowa (Kono Oto Tomare) - Shin x Lena (86) - Vanitas x Jeanne (Vanitas no Carte) |
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