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Sep 11, 2021 6:52 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The pacing wasn't as much of a problem as the fact that the beginning of chapter 983 and 984 were adapted. 5 and 4 pages, respectively. Almost exclusively transition panels, mind you. Add more Brachio Tank vs Big mom anime OG stuff and you end up with an episode only a true average One Piece enjoyer could dig. Which I fortunately am.


Still, the most stimulating parts were

- Luffy and Yamato fooling around along with the massive tease(face and Ace)

- Robin as strong independent woman. What was that boor even thinking? Lol. Franky got dibs on her, even tho it's admittedly looking bad for him since Boss Jinbe joined.

- the focus on the V-line of the mantis Gifter

- dog mouth Gifter

The episode was legit 1/5 tbh but these 4 points were enough for a 5/5


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Sep 11, 2021 7:31 PM
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That Yamato and Ace clash at the end was pretty hype. I can't wait to see more of it

That (and the luffy and Yamato part) was easily the highlight of the episode for me but Zoro being as great as ever was also a pretty nice part




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Sep 11, 2021 7:31 PM
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Luffy and Yamato fooling around was the highlight of the episode.
Well, there's not much to say. Zoro was a badass once again beating down a hundred man alone. Ussup and Chopper were close to losing their soul and Nami is in trouble..
I'm pretty curious at how old Yamato really is and her past with Ace...
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Sep 11, 2021 7:31 PM
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This episode was fine. I do not mind the pacing at all. Though it is bothersome now and then. But I been up with One Piece this far for years. I will handle it.
Sep 11, 2021 7:37 PM
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Wano went from Anime > Manga to Manga > Anime real quick. Dreadful episode.
Sep 11, 2021 7:56 PM
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I expected a mess, but damn that was bad even for Wano pacing standards. I dunno why they went ahead and spoiled that one scene that shouldn't have been revealed yet in the anime, but whatever. The pacing itself was the real problem, as well as the animation is some parts. Felt like an average episode rather than a big moment like it should've been.
Sep 11, 2021 8:09 PM
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I expected a mess, but damn that was bad even for Wano pacing standards. I dunno why they went ahead and spoiled that one scene that shouldn't have been revealed yet in the anime, but whatever. The pacing itself was the real problem, as well as the animation is some parts. Felt like an average episode rather than a big moment like it should've been.

Which scene are you taking about and why is the blood sensored to white colour
Sep 11, 2021 8:14 PM
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This really was a slow episode.

Poor Nami is going to be targeted by Big Mom next...

Interesting to know that Yamato once fought Ace.
Sep 11, 2021 8:19 PM
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Excessively dragged, was expecting them to show Yamato's face by now. The last red hawk was amazing. Looking forward for the next episode, hope there isn't filler!
Sep 11, 2021 8:22 PM

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Definitely one of the slower episodes even if I don't mind as much as others do.

It was surprising to see Perospero already at Onigashima. When he and the rest of the Big Mom went on another free fly by Marco I thought we wouldn't see anything of them for a longer period of time. Guess this will heat things up even more.

The Brachio part wasn't too special but it could have ended up very badly for Usopp and Chopper if Prometheus didn't interrupt Big Mom. But now Nami, Carrot and Shinobu are on a run.

Robin as cool as always and I really had to laugh when she mentioned the all-you-can-assassinate-buffet. Never heard anyone saying that before :D

Zoro the new king of pirates or something like that right? I mean the gifters never met Luffy so they couldn't know it wasn't him but still also a funny scene.

The part with Luffy and Yamato was definitely the most interesting one. We still don't exactly know why Yamato wants to talk to Luffy so badly, but his gender is 100% confirmed by the scene with Ace which was honestly unexpected. I didn't know Ace was also going for Kaidos head at some point and fought Yamato.

Next week face and identity reveal? Can't wait to see Luffys face and reaction to it and of course I'm also very curious by myself to get more information about Yamato.




Sep 11, 2021 8:35 PM
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Why when Zoro cut those people the blood was censored or something like that?
Sep 11, 2021 8:41 PM
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Ok so we just watched episode 990 twice.. cool.
Sep 11, 2021 8:42 PM
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I waited all week for this episode just for nothing to happen. Smh I guess this is what it’s like being a weekly one piece watcher
Sep 11, 2021 8:52 PM

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Wow come on man, literally nothing much happened.
Sep 11, 2021 9:22 PM

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AmritAryan said:
Which scene are you taking about and why is the blood sensored to white colour


The revelation that Yamato and Ace had fought in the past. That bit of information wasn't revealed until a bit later in the manga, but they decided to spoil that in this episode ahead of schedule for some reason. Reminds me of how the first Wano opening theme song spoiled Kyoshiro's identity.
Sep 11, 2021 9:41 PM
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Very bad episode, wait a whole week, get this shit 10/0
Sep 11, 2021 9:45 PM

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Well shit.. This is not how I thought this episode was going to be handled. This is such a major moment in the manga and for them to allude to Yamato knowing ace before the reveal is going to diminish the impact a bit for the next episode. Man this pacing is just terrible. I was almost certain that this episode was going to cover the ending cliffhanger of CH 984 but i guess there saving it for next episode.

Why is it that the studio feels so compelled to introduce flashback sequences to hint or allude to things that oda has not even revealed in the present story. This is a case of anime studio's being far to liberal in terms of showcasing things based on promotional material and advertising. They should honestly stick to the manga, its structured and sequenced in the way that leaves the readers feeling the most impact from the story. Please do not let this be a "reverie situation all over again".



Sep 11, 2021 10:02 PM
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I only refrained from posting earlier, but...as a One Piece fan, I'd say this episode was a terrible letdown. This pacing is awful.

Why does Toei have to reduce the amount of manga pages that they'll adapt for an entire episode? They just keep doing this. I wouldn't really complain about the pacing if they had been faithful to adapt a complete 1 chapter = 1 episode format, but the studio decides to break down a manga chapter and adapting 50% (or even less) of a manga chapter then animating it with too much padding. They're doing this more often now. This episode is the result and it's too hard to watch.

Honestly, I was waiting for the reveal of
at the end of this episode, but....Toei rearranged the events to their own liking. Please don't ruin our expectations, Toei... I don't want Wano Act 3 to be a disaster in the anime. Ugh.. -_-

Btw, when was blood been censored in this anime by coloring blood as white? What gives?
Sep 11, 2021 10:16 PM
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A lowkey Yamato kinda a baddie
Sep 11, 2021 10:26 PM
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This episode was soooooooo slowwwwwww paced.
Sep 11, 2021 10:39 PM
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[quote=ManWild message=64370835]That Yamato and Ace clash at the end was pretty hype. I can't wait to see more of it

That (and the luffy and Yamato part) was easily the highlight of the episode
Sep 11, 2021 11:07 PM

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LunyRem said:
Why does Toei have to reduce the amount of manga pages that they'll adapt for an entire episode? They just keep doing this. I wouldn't really complain about the pacing if they had been faithful to adapt a complete 1 chapter = 1 episode format, but the studio decides to break down a manga chapter and adapting 50% (or even less) of a manga chapter then animating it with too much padding. They're doing this more often now. This episode is the result and it's too hard to watch.


I don't mean to sound rude, but I think it's really obvious why they do it: 1) they've gotten too close to the source material and more importantly 2) the One Piece manga goes on break too often usually one or two weeks per month on average, so the anime would catch up to the manga even faster if the anime adapted one chapter per episode.

Of course they could remedy the situation by making filler arcs to buy some time, but they don't do that because they're greedy and know that the ratings would decline if they resorted to too many fillers. Plus they know that the anime's most dedicated fans would rather watch canon episodes than fillers, even if the canon episodes are slow paced as ****.
Sep 11, 2021 11:15 PM
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Sweet_Escape said:
1) they've gotten too close to the source material and more importantly 2) the One Piece manga goes on break too often usually once or twice a month on average, so the anime would catch up to the manga even faster if the anime adapted one chapter per episode.

Of course they could remedy the situation by making filler arcs to buy some time, but they don't do that because they're greedy and know that the ratings would decline if they resorted to too many fillers. Plus they know that the anime's most dedicated fans would rather watch canon episodes than fillers, even if the canon episodes are slow paced as ****.

The anime deserves some breaks like how the manga can sometimes take a weekly break because of Oda-sensei's health. Some occasional weekly breaks could help preserve the quality of the anime when it comes to pacing and animation. But since they're greedy that they would never even consider this as an option.
Sep 12, 2021 12:01 AM

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RahulSenpai said:
Why when Zoro cut those people the blood was censored or something like that?

He has actually developed the ability to cut semen out of people anywhere on their body, hence why it was white. Showing blood isn't family friendly, duh.
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Sep 12, 2021 12:08 AM
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the episode was good but really don't like that zoro part . the ending was good ace and yamato .
Sep 12, 2021 12:34 AM

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The episode was average I guess, Zoro's fight was alright to see and the bit near the end with Ace was fun to see although I knew it was going to happen as soon as Luffy used the Red Hawk. Can't wait for next episode, then we can see Yamato's face.
Sep 12, 2021 12:36 AM

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_cjessop19_ said:
RahulSenpai said:
Why when Zoro cut those people the blood was censored or something like that?

He has actually developed the ability to cut semen out of people anywhere on their body, hence why it was white. Showing blood isn't family friendly, duh.
Can confirm that Oda foreshadowed Zoro's semen skills back in Punk Hazard 👍
Sep 12, 2021 12:38 AM

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VolKur said:
This episode was soooooooo slowwwwwww paced.
Forreal but I'd rather see this than a bunch of filler in the middle of the raid
Sep 12, 2021 1:02 AM

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Indeed the toughest battle for commander chopper and driver usopp but at the end of it a total victory considering they came out alive from a non-winnable battle against big mom. Quite unexpected to see an Ace flashback at the end, not that I want to complain.

Sep 12, 2021 1:12 AM
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As for me this episode was boring. The positive part of this ep was Zoro, he's badass.
Sep 12, 2021 1:53 AM

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5 pages of chapter 983 and 4 pages of chapter 984. Wow that's some abysmal pacing. And then for some reason at the end of the episode, they felt the need to spoil the fact that
when that was a pretty huge reveal in the manga.
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Sep 12, 2021 2:02 AM
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Did they really just censor the blood in the zoro scene or is it just me?
Sep 12, 2021 2:27 AM

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Chopper and Usopp almost got killed by Big Mom was scary af
The blood censor was bad
So Yamato fought against Ace in past... I wonder why

Sep 12, 2021 2:55 AM

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ACE?! vs YAMATO ooh

Sep 12, 2021 3:23 AM
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Ace may be gone, but he will forever be in our flashbacks
Sep 12, 2021 3:38 AM
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as usual the pacing is a bit slow like watching eps 990 yesterday, come on, why is the ace vs yamato fight even though it's shown now as if you want to quickly show Yamato's face.
Sep 12, 2021 3:43 AM
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KneelBeforeMe said:
Wano went from Anime > Manga to Manga > Anime real quick. Dreadful episode.


At which point exactly was the Anime > Manga?? LMAO get serious mate
Sep 12, 2021 3:50 AM

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link9us said:
Well shit.. This is not how I thought this episode was going to be handled. This is such a major moment in the manga and for them to allude to Yamato knowing ace before the reveal is going to diminish the impact a bit for the next episode. Man this pacing is just terrible. I was almost certain that this episode was going to cover the ending cliffhanger of CH 984 but i guess there saving it for next episode.

Why is it that the studio feels so compelled to introduce flashback sequences to hint or allude to things that oda has not even revealed in the present story. This is a case of anime studio's being far to liberal in terms of showcasing things based on promotional material and advertising. They should honestly stick to the manga, its structured and sequenced in the way that leaves the readers feeling the most impact from the story. Please do not let this be a "reverie situation all over again".


This is probably what's bound to happen when you have to buy time to make later episodes better, but then realize that you have to add some spice. Also, Toei always had the tendency to tease stuff(silhouttes of faces and chara designs), even when it was something that's about to be revealed, sometimes in the very same episode. There are harlmess examples like when Katakuri, Oven and Daifuku were teased before their actual introduction at the wedding. The last time they added something questionable to an eventless episode was when Zoro used Haoshoku. I personally thought that was worse than the stuff we got this time. Most anime watchers should already know about Yamato thanks to opening, seiyuu and the mini drama series(or other peoples MAL pictures)

How Mr.3 being on the scaffold wasn't a surprise because of several anime original filler segments in previous episodes, that featured him taking the place of one of the executioner. Now that was wild 😂


Their previews are wack, not to mention some of their infamous episode title (episode 988) Yeah, we already went through some tough shit alongside Toei. Yet they keep delivering when it counts most of the time.


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KneelBeforeMe said:
Wano went from Anime > Manga to Manga > Anime real quick. Dreadful episode.


At which point exactly was the Anime > Manga?? LMAO get serious mate


Legit, this never happened for more than two episodes straight and it will never happen.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Sep 12, 2021 5:33 AM
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We are one episode closer to seeing Yamato's face reveal, I'm kinda exited nil even tho I already saw his face. I also want to know what connection he has with ace. so happy I got see robin!! finally I missed herrr and when she said "all you can assassinate buffet" lmaoo it sent me. Zoro as well ahhh he's just so badass I can't. I still don't know how chopper and ussop didn't get beat up by big mom- major plot armor.
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ChMel said:
KneelBeforeMe said:
Wano went from Anime > Manga to Manga > Anime real quick. Dreadful episode.


At which point exactly was the Anime > Manga?? LMAO get serious mate
what chapter is the manga on? if you don't mind me asking
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ChMel said:


At which point exactly was the Anime > Manga?? LMAO get serious mate
what chapter is the manga on? if you don't mind me asking


Today will be the official release of ch. 1025
Sep 12, 2021 6:06 AM

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censsored episode with white blood... slow episode with not much important thing who take long time for nothing (usopp and chopper vs Big Mom... usseless to take so much screentime). Just the end who is interesting when Yamato reming her past with Ace
Sep 12, 2021 8:29 AM
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Can anyone guess when this arc will end? because I don't want to see 1 episode per week
Sep 12, 2021 9:09 AM

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pinto008899 said:
Can anyone guess when this arc will end? because I don't want to see 1 episode per week


Gonna keep it real. Come back in 80 weeks or better in 2 years to be on the safe side.

One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron


Sep 12, 2021 9:12 AM
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watched in 1.1x really enjoyed this episode ..nice animation too, only problem was blood censoring.
Sep 12, 2021 11:26 AM
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What is this pacing? OH MY GOD! The still shots and dragged out stares. Make it stop please. Toei is ruining One Piece with their greed. I don't care how nice the animation is. This anime is doing the Manga injustice. ODs should switch animation studios now.
Sep 12, 2021 12:03 PM

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Great ep. though the pace was slow. In fact, it was so slow that you noticed it. Big Mom got some scary power. Like seriously controlling the souls of unliving and living things are a dangerous ability. For a short moment, I thought Chopper and Usopp was dreaming being in front of Big Mom about taking their lifespan away. Lucky enough for them, they got away.

The fight between Luffy and Yamato was decent, but that Red Hawk animation had a nice touch, though the animation was quite decent. Nevertheless, you could see the difference between this attack and Usopp's tank shooting cannons at Big Mom.


Sep 12, 2021 12:05 PM

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What is this pacing? OH MY GOD! The still shots and dragged-out stares. Make it stop, please. Toei is ruining One Piece with their greed. I don't care how nice the animation is. This anime is doing the Manga injustice. ODs should switch animation studios now.


OnePace justifies the animation of OP and I am so happy about it. Although their releases are not fast as Toei, they do an excellent job at being faithful to the manga's pace.
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AnthonyLuffy said:
censsored episode with white blood... slow episode with not much important thing who takes a long time for nothing (Usopp and chopper vs Big Mom... useless to take so much screentime). Just the end who is interesting when Yamato remaining her past with Ace


It's stupid to censor when blood was shown at Zoro cutting and killing that mayor dude at the beginning of the arc.
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USOPP AND CHOPPER REALLY BELIEVE A TANK IS GOING TO TAKE DOWN ONE OF THE FIVE EMPERORS OF THE SEA?!?!??!?! A TANK?!?!?!? IF IT WERE THAT SIMPLE SHE'S ALREADY BE IN IMPEL DOWN. ALSO NEITHER OR THEM ARE AWARE THAT SANJI WENT TO SEARCH FOR SOME WOMEN IN THE PLEASURE HALL AND HE ISN'T WITH NAMI, SHINOBU, CARROT, AND ZEUS.

As Zoro is slicing cheeks left and right some Gifters of the Animal Kingdom Pirates converse with him. They are under the impression that Zoro wants to be the King of the Pirates, but Zoro obviously sets them straight and makes it clear that's Luffy's job and Luffy's job alone. They offer him an opportunity to join Kaido, but Zoro obviously refuses as he's Luffy's right hand man. Hence, he continues to slice cheeks left, right, up, down, and around.

Lastly the business between Yamato and Luffy. Firstly, why is Ulti trying to claim that Yamato's Thunder Bagua didn't hurt when she can't even fight anymore?! Stop the cap right here and now. Page One knows that Luffy decked him with his Gum Gum Elephant Gun and he got his jaw dislocated. Also, Yamato doesn't understand that Luffy's in a hurry and needs to kick Kaido and Big Mom's asses immediately, rescue Momonosuke, and free the Land of Wano from the trash that run the place. Then Yamato is reminded of a fight between her and Ace in the past as Luffy uses Gum Gum Red Hawk, in which Ace was also aiming to clap Yamato.

I can't wait for more to unravel in One Piece. More and more badassery is coming!
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