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Jul 29, 2021 8:51 PM
#51
Btw, between this episode and episode 2, anyone else reminded of Yume Nikki when Nagara explores new worlds? Especially the One Way Trap one discovered this episode. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:06 PM
#52
deg said: to me its basically "we live in a society" show I completely agree with the show being about "we live in a society" or "there are rules and how we deal with them". I only disagree (as I said some msgs back) that this necessarily/immediately entails government or politics are somehow being addressed. (Family relations, friendships etc are social relations, with certain rules and expectations, but there's no government directly creating or forcing any of the rules) deg said: and Nagara might be the one transported them to this Absurd World for escapism purposes against society I completely agree, again. I had this impression from the 1st ep, where it seems to be implied that they were transported during Nagara's frustration (with life? with something to be shown later?) that day reaching a boiling point when he was locked on the school ceiling. (I think someone here mentioned the same impression). Nagara reminds me of Shinji Ikari: the frustrated, depressed character who somehow gets to decide the destiny of those around them. Maybe the show is some kind of exploration of his trajectory of getting out of his funk/depression and handling his life situation better or seeing things in a more constructive, less escapist light in the end. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:12 PM
#53
I honestly love how this show doesn't treat its viewers like dumbasses. Its a breath of fresh air from the dozens of anime that will spell everything out letter by letter just in case you don't get it. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:13 PM
#54
nautilus64 said: deg said: to me its basically "we live in a society" show I completely agree with the show being about "we live in a society" or "there are rules and how we deal with them". I only disagree (as I said some msgs back) that this necessarily/immediately entails government or politics are somehow being addressed. (Family relations, friendships etc are social relations, with certain rules and expectations, but there's no government directly creating or forcing any of the rules) deg said: and Nagara might be the one transported them to this Absurd World for escapism purposes against society I completely agree, again. I had this impression from the 1st ep, where it seems to be implied that they were transported during Nagara's frustration (with life? with something to be shown later?) that day reaching a boiling point when he was locked on the school ceiling. (I think someone here mentioned the same impression). Nagara reminds me of Shinji Ikari: the frustrated, depressed character who somehow gets to decide the destiny of those around them. Maybe the show is some kind of exploration of his trajectory of getting out of his funk/depression and handling his life situation better or seeing things in a more constructive, less escapist light in the end. they organize themselves with a governing body since episode 1 with that class representatives thing and now up to episode 3 they have their own division of labor going on so it is government in a way heck Mizuho just applies capitalism or free market to her powers too with digital currency exchange or just barter yes since episode 1 they all talk about rules of this world and that it might be an analogy for rules of society |
Jul 29, 2021 9:23 PM
#55
Jul 29, 2021 9:24 PM
#56
deg said: they organize themselves with a governing body since episode 1 with that class representatives thing and now up to episode 3 they have their own division of labor going on so it is government in a way heck Mizuho just applies capitalism or free market to her powers too with digital currency exchange or just barter yes since episode 1 they all talk about rules of this world and that it might be an analogy for rules of society This isn't really commenting on real politics. All it shows is these characters are interested in maintaining the previous order and how that causes friction with some of the others. It doesn't really say anything more than that. What they prioritize is going to come down to what they individually believe is most important as fictional characters with backgrounds we don't fully understand 3 episodes in. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:30 PM
#57
Reelens said: deg said: they organize themselves with a governing body since episode 1 with that class representatives thing and now up to episode 3 they have their own division of labor going on so it is government in a way heck Mizuho just applies capitalism or free market to her powers too with digital currency exchange or just barter yes since episode 1 they all talk about rules of this world and that it might be an analogy for rules of society This isn't really commenting on real politics. All it shows is these characters are interested in maintaining the previous order and how that causes friction with some of the others. It doesn't really say anything more than that. What they prioritize is going to come down to what they individually believe is most important as fictional characters with backgrounds we don't fully understand 3 episodes in. rules of society is dealing with power struggle like politics as long as there is a need to maintain order or control it is politics as they say "politics is everywhere" and im just curious on that part of the show if you do not see it that way then fine fiction is open to interpretation anyway by anybody |
Jul 29, 2021 9:30 PM
#58
nautilus64 said: Ryuseishun said: I'm beginning to believe more and more that this anime will be an analogy for today's political climate. How it's inescapable and how we're all coerced into livelihoods that don't represent freewill. I don't think the anime is about politics stricto sensu (as in left/right, parties, ideologies, current events, vaccine denial, etc.) at all. I think it's much more a metaphorical reflection about society, social interactions, more broadly: human beings live in society, impose arbitrary rules on one another that don't come from any definite source in particular (what is right and wrong, how to behave, what are the worthy goals to pursue etc.), assign arbitrary roles to each other, confer authority to some people for whatever reason, punish one another for ["perceivedly"] breaking the vague, arbitrary rules, live constrained to the environment and roles that they assume have been assigned to them, sometimes see beyond and defy those constraints and find other modes of life, other interpretations of the reality around them, ostracize or ignore those who are not well-regarded or connected, etc. All of these things could, of course, be called "political" or "politics", but only in the vaguest, most etymological way possible, and it makes it confusing, because none of these things are particularly intrinsic to what most readily comes to mind when one mentions "political climates", with party politics, right/left, or ideological divides. All that I've seen in the anime is much less related to politics in this most readily thought of sense than to the usual types of situations that everyone, regardless of "lateralization", has to deal with on account of us being social animals. I think calling all these types of things and interactions "society", "social interactions" is the right level of broadness to refer to what I interpret is being addressed in the anime. This wasn't my own comment, btw. Someone else quoted me and had that very statement that you quoted here. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:38 PM
#59
By that definition, you're technically correct. Like any work of fiction about a group of castaway teenagers with no adult supervision, it's going to have a bunch of society-building stuff. The main character is Nagara though, so I don't recommend watching this for the politics. Having read The Drifting Classroom, which this anime seems like a love letter to, I don't expect this to focus on politics to any real degree, compared to the situations the characters confront while exploring worlds. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:41 PM
#60
Reelens said: By that definition, you're technically correct. Like any work of fiction about a group of castaway teenagers with no adult supervision, it's going to have a bunch of society-building stuff. The main character is Nagara though, so I don't recommend watching this for the politics. Having read The Drifting Classroom, which this anime seems like a love letter to, I don't expect this to focus on politics to any real degree, compared to the situations the characters confront while exploring worlds. if this is all about "knowing your place in society or whats my purpose in this world" kind of show then im fine with that too im not saying that politics is the only theme of this show anyway its just the one im curious about so i notice it more |
Jul 29, 2021 9:43 PM
#61
Ryuseishun said: This wasn't my own comment, btw. Someone else quoted me and had that very statement that you quoted here. So sorry! I made some confusion with the nested quote tags. I went back to my original msg and corrected the reference. (sorry the mistaken attribution to you ends up showing in the follow-ups to the discussion) |
Jul 29, 2021 9:46 PM
#62
Hoshi talking to god? This is definitely getting more and more interesting. I wonder if that's his power or just a rule. I also wonder if Nozomi's guess was a hunch (since she looked surprised when he confirmed) or if she was able to communicate with god too. We've seen lots of jealousy and attempts to "monopolize" other characters or friendships. It makes me wonder *again* about the origin of these feelings. Nagara apparently isn't the only one that can leap? There are items that allow them to teleport? I have so many questions and I hope we'll get at least some of them answered. Great episode! @deg, you're really putting 2 and 2 together. I liked your interpretation of how it all might have started. |
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Jul 29, 2021 9:48 PM
#63
I think they can all leap after Nagara discovers a portal, but he has to do that first, which he did with the curtains. |
Jul 29, 2021 9:51 PM
#64
samashi20 said: @deg, you're really putting 2 and 2 together. I liked your interpretation of how it all might have started. thats the beauty of original anime since its not about expositions or spoon feeding like anime adaptations but more of show do not tell so ye lots of ways to interpret the show that way |
Jul 29, 2021 9:58 PM
#65
deg said: samashi20 said: @deg, you're really putting 2 and 2 together. I liked your interpretation of how it all might have started. thats the beauty of original anime since its not about expositions or spoon feeding like anime adaptations but more of show do not tell so ye lots of ways to interpret the show that way I also read somewhere that the producer or author (not exactly sure who it was) said that they're leaving a lot open to interpretation, and that makes it even better in my opinion, since I personally enjoy reading and learning about the different perspectives. |
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Jul 29, 2021 10:00 PM
#66
samashi20 said: deg said: samashi20 said: @deg, you're really putting 2 and 2 together. I liked your interpretation of how it all might have started. thats the beauty of original anime since its not about expositions or spoon feeding like anime adaptations but more of show do not tell so ye lots of ways to interpret the show that way I also read somewhere that the producer or author (not exactly sure who it was) said that they're leaving a lot open to interpretation, and that makes it even better in my opinion, since I personally enjoy reading and learning about the different perspectives. thats great news then it also makes the mysteries more interesting |
Jul 29, 2021 10:34 PM
#67
ezegonz said: Natsude_tanaka said: ezegonz said: + It was stated that Nozomi was after Nagara but that was NEVER shown. They just... hang out a lot without any kind of even flirting. they explained it tho in the first ep, nozomi said that she was bored and dont have anyone to talk beside nagara. besides, she just got back from abroad so i guess no one knows her i supposed. but again just watch the ep 1 and u understand and plus u dont really need a reason for her to stick around with nagara. This may be my mistake since I find Nagara's character to be so annoying, so I just take it out on the poor guy xD i mean he's not annoying bro hahha come on man. |
Jul 29, 2021 11:01 PM
#68
Jul 29, 2021 11:51 PM
#69
The fact that Nagara is a teleporter was almost confirmed, and this settled the senseless issue of sudden change from black to colorful world at the end of episode 1. It seems the character description for Nagara in the official web site of the show has been rewritten too. Also the supernatural power of Asakaze was revealed by the note: gravity control. The strange crack in the space when he contorts gravity in episode 1 would express "slow light" effect. |
Jul 29, 2021 11:56 PM
#70
Zean_9435 said: Lack of music in this show makes it kinda boring. Anyway this episode as usual was confusing asf. My brain is totally fucked up. I don't think so. They adapt the show very well in a way soundtrack is not needed. Only the first episode felt like the lack of soundtrack made it boring but that's done to make up for the void environment. Maybe try to enjoy the vibe? This is just an opinion. I feel like you're not actually enjoying the anime in a way the staff wanted you to. I might be wrong. |
Jul 30, 2021 12:06 AM
#71
Scomoth said: Yaa you may be right, Good sound track always enhance my enjoyment level, Apart from the plot AOT , Death note and Re Zero is my favourite because of there amazing sounds track.Zean_9435 said: Lack of music in this show makes it kinda boring. Anyway this episode as usual was confusing asf. My brain is totally fucked up. I don't think so. They adapt the show very well in a way soundtrack is not needed. Only the first episode felt like the lack of soundtrack made it boring but that's done to make up for the void environment. Maybe try to enjoy the vibe? This is just an opinion. I feel like you're not actually enjoying the anime in a way the staff wanted you to. I might be wrong. This show kinda feel dull and boring to me but still I am going to watch it because of the premise which is very unique and overall this anime is very different from the other which I recently watched. |
Jul 30, 2021 12:46 AM
#72
asakaze u have a nice face but man ur such an ass. i really like mizuho and nagara's fight, how they resolved it too. it wasn't just a "mizuho actually likes nagara but doesn't know it so thats why she was mad at nozomi and nagara" she was just annoyed at how he acts, agreeing and doing anything as he's told without fighting or talking back the slightest bit. we got to know hoshi's powers(?) he can talk to satan i guess, and nagara can possibly go to different worlds. interesting |
Jul 30, 2021 1:10 AM
#73
Looks like this episode reaffirmed Nagara's ability, after what happened previously. He now worked together with Mizuho solving the strange case that in fact also related to the world's rule, and the school. Heaven for the hikkikomori. Too bad Nagara found the portal to that place, and, well, farewell for the perfect place to them.... Still, they also revealed a little thing about Hoshi. Apparently he wasn't the one who brought them into that world. He got the voice telling the school will be rift apart, and then, the voice told him about the savior? The unknowingly voice should be the real culprit. But, why? Looks like something big will happen next, or soon. Lets see.... Cool episode as always, with no oped required. I understand, you don't wanna spoil anything, right? Or you don't have enough time to create a different part for the oped? Whatever it was, man, whatever xd. |
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Jul 30, 2021 5:23 AM
#74
This is exactly what i thought when i saw that art. Maybe the voice in his head is a dark souls boss. |
Jul 30, 2021 5:37 AM
#75
Jul 30, 2021 6:20 AM
#76
Another very wtf and abstract episode, but we also got some really interesting information. So some of them can already use their powers even before transporting. I guess Hoshi's power is "God" talking to him or it could be much more than just a power. I'd rather have nyamazon though lmao. Someone finally noticed specifically Nozomi that Nagara's power might be to jump through worlds, but still no 100% confirmation, it could be just as Nagara said, a coincidence. The savior Hoshi's "God" is talking about must be Nagara and I don't like the sound of that. Whoever brought them there if it's not Nagara himself must really want them to stay lost in those worlds. Looking forward to the next episode. |
Jul 30, 2021 7:22 AM
#77
Longicaudatus said: I honestly love how this show doesn't treat its viewers like dumbasses. Its a breath of fresh air from the dozens of anime that will spell everything out letter by letter just in case you don't get it. It is doing a good job of giving out information at a slow pace. There are a few things I would like to understand abit better but I am fairly sure that will come based on what we have seen so far. |
Jul 30, 2021 8:30 AM
#78
Natsude_tanaka said: ezegonz said: Natsude_tanaka said: ezegonz said: + It was stated that Nozomi was after Nagara but that was NEVER shown. They just... hang out a lot without any kind of even flirting. they explained it tho in the first ep, nozomi said that she was bored and dont have anyone to talk beside nagara. besides, she just got back from abroad so i guess no one knows her i supposed. but again just watch the ep 1 and u understand and plus u dont really need a reason for her to stick around with nagara. This may be my mistake since I find Nagara's character to be so annoying, so I just take it out on the poor guy xD i mean he's not annoying bro hahha come on man. hahaha no, I mean I find him kinda annyoing. Apathetical, bland... it just doesn't go with me. Not trying to say it's bad character design at all |
Jul 30, 2021 9:20 AM
#79
The characters are edgier than the usual anime edginess. A teenager wanting capitalistic nightmare among 36 people-populated society in the middle of magical absurdity and being so casually cold about it. wtf is that? Chill out, kids. Though I'm more interested in the mystery part, so I'm overlooking the edginess part. |
Jul 30, 2021 9:59 AM
#80
So why did they even bring back the missing students? Why force them to take part in their society, when no one even cared about them and they were happy (albeit through distractions than actually fixing their problems?) The main characters didn't even seem to care about it that much, they just wanted to complete their mission of bringing them back. I hope they actually address those characters' issues later on, instead of just side-stepping it. |
Jul 30, 2021 10:06 AM
#81
Gwenpool said: So why did they even bring back the missing students? It ties into Asakaze's lie, Sagara's fight with Mizuho and his realization that nobody ends up alone like that on purpose. They weren't actually loners by choice. The guy was streaming games hoping people would watch him. The girl gives Mizuho a plushie. They had been excluded from the group and nobody was taking responsibility for it, not even themselves. |
Jul 30, 2021 10:12 AM
#82
Reelens said: Gwenpool said: So why did they even bring back the missing students? It ties into Asakaze's lie, Sagara's fight with Mizuho and his realization that nobody ends up alone like that on purpose. They weren't actually loners by choice. The guy was streaming games hoping people would watch him. The girl gives Mizuho a plushie. They had been excluded from the group and nobody was taking responsibility for it, not even themselves. Yeah, we know why they're there, but they didn't actually fix their problems. They just pulled them out of their worlds and threw them back into the group. That's why I'm hoping they follow up on this, because otherwise their problems won't actually get fixed. In fact, they'd just be worse off because now their escape is gone. |
Jul 30, 2021 10:24 AM
#83
sKyBlazer08 said: from the official database, Hoshi' ability is called "hope" which is from that power he can projecting images like he do to asakaze in episode 1 and Mizuho in episode 2. If you look closely the ability is active when hoshi make some praying hand thingyAnother very wtf and abstract episode, but we also got some really interesting information. So some of them can already use their powers even before transporting. I guess Hoshi's power is "God" talking to him or it could be much more than just a power. I'd rather have nyamazon though lmao. Someone finally noticed specifically Nozomi that Nagara's power might be to jump through worlds, but still no 100% confirmation, it could be just as Nagara said, a coincidence. The savior Hoshi's "God" is talking about must be Nagara and I don't like the sound of that. Whoever brought them there if it's not Nagara himself must really want them to stay lost in those worlds. Looking forward to the next episode. |
Jul 30, 2021 3:42 PM
#84
I'm intrigued by Nozomi. She seems very outwardly laid-back and easygoing, but I feel she's perhaps one of the most perceptive and observant characters. Like she watches everyone just like that annoying president dude with a star on his face. She had an intuition that he knew more than he had let on and she was right. She seems to know that MC and cat girl had gotten into a fight, and that flying boy must've said something out of jealousy to spite MC & so she very subtly and in-directly said something to directly address what had been troubling the MC. |
Jul 30, 2021 3:42 PM
#85
kind of like the fact that the main kid actually argued back with that girl who kept bringing up the subject he was trying to ingore, i mean i know in her own way she thought she was doing something good and possibly necessary, but at the same time i was like unlike u like him stay out of his business....mainly cause i find her somewhat annoying...it's weird i both like and dislike her. that other kid with the telekinesis powers who was flying around seems like as ass and felt like he was trying to keep the main kid away from main girl nozomi. this is a weird show, it's good but at the same time it's not really going anywhere so far. |
Jul 30, 2021 4:04 PM
#86
I really felt a drop in the animation. The plot seems good as usual. 3/5 |
Jul 30, 2021 5:34 PM
#87
Loving Mizuho more and more each week! Interesting episode overall though |
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Jul 30, 2021 9:03 PM
#88
Good episode, but not completely sold on the series yet. It's definitely a show that has its own style and makes you keep thinking and guessing, but at the same time, I'm not sure if I find it all the entertaining. Definitely will keep on watching for now, but I'd like a little more clarity soon. |
Jul 30, 2021 9:46 PM
#89
Man, this show just keeps getting better and better. The visuals are an absolute feasts for the eyes and I love that the animators are just getting to go wild here. Multiple different powers are hinted at here which makes it very interesting. As well as the possibility of the powers being around before the dirft, things are just gonna keep getting interesting and complex at this rate, can’t wait to see how it all comes to a head. I’m in particular interested in the girl who was able to re-enter the dimension by flipping her clothing around, cause it has clearly been destroyed, yet she’s still able to get back in on her own, and the fact that student council ass hole has a voice telling him everything that’s going on. Plus that strange door or whatever it was that he has, which might be linked to the voice since he seemed to be talking to it. |
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Jul 30, 2021 10:08 PM
#90
Is there any thread or something about the list of student's power so far? |
Jul 30, 2021 11:32 PM
#91
This was another interesting episode. The entire show attracted me. It's a very underrated anime, just like Odd taxi was in the previous season. More people should watch it. |
Jul 31, 2021 1:59 AM
#92
Interesting powers, Starboy a Great Sage. And world rule excludes the recluses. Might be first episode actually feel invested in. Nagara & Mizuho arguing quite intense and revealed their weaknesses. |
Jul 31, 2021 7:40 AM
#93
ezegonz said: + What was that weird looking antenae they were holding while looking for the kids? + What was the dogs they were using when closing (?) the portal? + Was that portal just linked to that school room? Then why were there (pressumably) a lot of space? + What was that fight between Azakase and Nagara? + It was stated that Nozomi was after Nagara but that was NEVER shown. They just... hang out a lot without any kind of even flirting. + How did they destroy the portal in the island but Mizuho still found what (probably) acted as a key? I feel disappointed as per chapter 3. The premise of chapter 1 was good, but the plot seems so mediocre and efortless that now that it enrages me. 1. Thats a device made by Rajdhani that was designed to do that. His power seems to be building things out of thin air with specific purposes, ala Scribblenauts 2. See number 1 3. The school room is just the doorway in, a interstice between worlds. Inside each room is a world, and each world seems infinite in scope, or at least this one. 4. Azakase is a prideful dick and is a teen with a pretty strong and easy to see power, which inflates his ego. Nagara has terrible self esteem, and seems to think of himself as powerless. Nagara wants to help Mizhuo but lacks the courage to stand up to Azakase and the pride to stand with her, while Azakase wants his power for his own gain. Tldr teenager things inflated by ego and a lack of ego. 5. Lets wait and see for the future, but fair point. Show not tell was this animes game. 6. Because it seems like each world is a bit like a proverbial pandoras box. Once you find the way in, it will be linked forever, and you can find ways in from in. Even if the doorway is seemingly blocked with concrete, there are still holes and sidedoors, that is to say. |
Jul 31, 2021 7:48 AM
#94
Ok crackpot theory time The voice Hoshi is talking to is a representation of someone in the animes staff, probably Shingo Natsume. His future sight is in fact implicate knowledge of how the anime works from talks with his gods, and he's to be the arbiter of the characters and, to a lesser extent, the audience. Reminder, this is literally me talking out of my ass based on one episode and some camera angles. But wouldn't you love an anime all about the nature of power ending in a confrontation with the ultimate power in their world? In a more grounded discussion, when the music kicked in and they yeeted the curtains out, that scene is freaking mesmerizing. I really hope they release whatever ost they got after this. |
Jul 31, 2021 8:34 AM
#95
This anime is so interesting. This episode definitely helped us learn more about their abilities and I think this episode has had a really good pace to it. I think maybe there is a meaning to this show which could be about different topics like isolation, greed and the want for power and much. This episode has just made me even more interested to see what’s going to happen next and I honestly think the characters are really well done like the girl with the cats, however I do not trust the girl with the voice in her head one bit. She’s always there and had that smile on her face. |
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Jul 31, 2021 1:41 PM
#96
JohnnyDee said: Ok crackpot theory time The voice Hoshi is talking to is a representation of someone in the animes staff, probably Shingo Natsume. His future sight is in fact implicate knowledge of how the anime works from talks with his gods, and he's to be the arbiter of the characters and, to a lesser extent, the audience. I would not be surprised if it was something like this, though with a production of this size, I doubt it will reference real people. Rather, I think he might be hearing the voice of a fictional author writing about this. Think about the bit in the first episode when Nozomi talks about "past supernatural incidents at the school". It has the ring of "this current set of circumstances is a sequel to previous works set in the same school/universe" to me. |
Jul 31, 2021 2:43 PM
#97
How did they unfreeze the students? They seemed to use the weird colored dogs to blown open the curtains. Very confusing. |
Jul 31, 2021 7:39 PM
#98
That last minute is WAYTOODANK |
Jul 31, 2021 10:47 PM
#99
This bunch of characters is really testing my patience. Plot is somewhat intriguing so far but goddamn are they unlikeable as hell. So, some students had already manifested their powers way before getting transported, huh? And it also seems that Nagara's supposed power was the cause of the school leaping in the first place. And on other news, Hoshi is about to go full Jesus next episode and I'm honestly not sure what to expect from that. |
Jul 31, 2021 11:25 PM
#100
Im becoming more curious after watching 3 episode on how this'll be |
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