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Dec 4, 2020 8:49 AM
#1
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died, hentai tentacle tag out of nowhere.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:21 AM
Dec 4, 2020 8:50 AM
#2
Holy shit, what a wild chapter. We finally saw the flying titan! |
Dec 4, 2020 8:57 AM
#3
Love AOT, though I'm not sure with this chapter, need some time to think it over. I never thought there was going to be this much plot armor in an AOT chapter. No way this holds out right? With that being said, Isayama has a plan and I am here to see it through. We will just have to wait and see how everything plays out. |
EdTheAlchemistDec 4, 2020 9:11 AM
Dec 4, 2020 8:58 AM
#4
Damn its all out pandemonium. While it may be cool to see them fight titans of the past, I gotta admit, it seems a little stupid and overpowered. Also I'm glad Gabi, Falco, and Annie are here for the end. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:00 AM
#5
This chapter was great 9/10. But it would have been much better if any character had died. There are 12 characters in the same place. Kill . Why Issyama You became a coward |
Dec 4, 2020 9:05 AM
#6
Chaotic battle, those historical titans were cool to see. I just hope they actually start falling down. Pretty much everybody was about to die this chapter at least once but was saved in the last second with chapter ending by having all of them saved in the last moment. I just hope it doesn't continue like that because that's the thing I hated about Return to Shiganshina arc and now it seems even more abused. Hope they get Tominoed soon, that would be actual fun to see. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:07 AM
#7
Disagree with people saying this is a bad chapter. We got info dumps of how 9 titan shifters looks in the past and how hopeless the fight is for the alliance. I can see if falco’s flying titan a bit asspull but there’s still no further information about his titan and Zeke, there might be a huge twist incoming revolving around titans and the thing that looked like parasite. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:07 AM
#8
SethBigBoss said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. And characters dying isn't cheesy? Since the whole quest of stopping Eren, characters have been dying. Something like that gets old fast if repeated constantly and shows lack of skill to make something else happen. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:22 AM
Dec 4, 2020 9:08 AM
#9
Damn, things doesn't look too pretty for Armin and Co. Armin got swallowed up and he had visions of Berthold, damn. I read somewhere that Isayama wants to do a crushing ending, so I bet we're probably going to see many die (as if there hasn't been enough death in the surroundings, billions of people already massacred. Also, we know for a fact that Eren and all those that are titans are going to die sooner due to their shorter lifespan, so I hope to see some actual consequences to those that aren't, either they get incapacitated or killed. There has been a lot of foreshadowing regarding a flying titan, Falco even mentioned that he saw someone flying in his memories. So not sure how is this "ridiculous" |
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Dec 4, 2020 9:09 AM
#10
Johan3333 said: SethBigBoss said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. And characters dying isn't cheesy? Since the whole quest of Eren, characters have been dying. Something like that gets old fast if repeated constantly and shows lack of skill to make something else happen. Just be honest with yourself, you're just being retarded. No, people dying in war isn't cheesy, it's realistic. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:23 AM
Dec 4, 2020 9:09 AM
#11
Everyone was 1 meter away from the titans’ jaws but no one has died. On top of that, Annie came to their rescue by flying with Falco’s evolved jaw titan. It wasn’t a good chapter, I hope the next one will be better. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:10 AM
#12
Man damn we’re in the endgame now. |
"I only studied a little bit of history and I have learned there are two current thoughts in human history. The opinion that there are things worth more than human life and the opinion that there is nothing preferable to life. When the war begins, it is on the pretext of the former type of people and it justify the latter when the war ends" |
Dec 4, 2020 9:10 AM
#13
AdolZeppeli said: Damn, things doesn't look too pretty for Armin and Co. Armin got swallowed up and he had visions of Berthold, damn. I read somewhere that Isayama wants to do a crushing ending, so I bet we're probably going to see many die (as if there hasn't been enough death in the surroundings, billions of people already massacred. Also, we know for a fact that Eren and all those that are titans are going to die sooner due to their shorter lifespan, so I hope to see some actual consequences to those that aren't, either they get incapacitated or killed. There has been a lot of foreshadowing regarding a flying titan, Falco even mentioned that he saw someone flying in his memories. So not sure how is this "ridiculous" Being foreshadowed doesn't mean it can't be ridiculous |
Dec 4, 2020 9:11 AM
#14
Holy shit this was an epic chapter. I really wonder what will happen with Armin and Pieck. It was amazing to see that Ymir actually freed the pigs. More Ymir screentime is allways great. The chapter would have been better if at least one character had died though. But the battle didn't take much time, so it dosen't bother me much. As long as someone dies in the final confrontation. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:26 AM
Dec 4, 2020 9:13 AM
#15
SethBigBoss said: AdolZeppeli said: Damn, things doesn't look too pretty for Armin and Co. Armin got swallowed up and he had visions of Berthold, damn. I read somewhere that Isayama wants to do a crushing ending, so I bet we're probably going to see many die (as if there hasn't been enough death in the surroundings, billions of people already massacred. Also, we know for a fact that Eren and all those that are titans are going to die sooner due to their shorter lifespan, so I hope to see some actual consequences to those that aren't, either they get incapacitated or killed. There has been a lot of foreshadowing regarding a flying titan, Falco even mentioned that he saw someone flying in his memories. So not sure how is this "ridiculous" Being foreshadowed doesn't mean it can't be ridiculous Example please, any show or manga like that. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:14 AM
#16
SethBigBoss said: AdolZeppeli said: Damn, things doesn't look too pretty for Armin and Co. Armin got swallowed up and he had visions of Berthold, damn. I read somewhere that Isayama wants to do a crushing ending, so I bet we're probably going to see many die (as if there hasn't been enough death in the surroundings, billions of people already massacred. Also, we know for a fact that Eren and all those that are titans are going to die sooner due to their shorter lifespan, so I hope to see some actual consequences to those that aren't, either they get incapacitated or killed. There has been a lot of foreshadowing regarding a flying titan, Falco even mentioned that he saw someone flying in his memories. So not sure how is this "ridiculous" Being foreshadowed doesn't mean it can't be ridiculous Why? There are plenty of animals that can fly. Why would it be ridicilous for a Titan to have this ability? |
Dec 4, 2020 9:16 AM
#17
nice the action was cool the will of Ymir is to kill all of humanity then Armin got his tongue stuff by the tongue of a titan though lol wtf ye i know its done so that he cannot transform and blow up or nuke the place all those past 9 titans and their past users will or soul are fucking cool to see Mikasa is the MVP saving them all and then Flying Falco titan rescue them all too what will happen to Pieck and Armin now? im sure Annie is gonna fight too now |
Dec 4, 2020 9:20 AM
#18
SethBigBoss said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died, hentai tentacle tag out of nowhere.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. Frankly, this chapter was great. But I agree with you. Issyama should have killed some characters. All of them being rescued at the last minute became very troublesome |
Dec 4, 2020 9:36 AM
#19
Great chapter. The action was really intense. I love how SC kept saving each other despite knowing full well how hopeless the situation is, and how they could die at any minute. Thank fuck for Falco and Annie honestly. Now I wonder where Eren is, but I hope they'll find him soon. Tbh I don't see how Isayama can wrap this up in less than 3 chapters. I don't think his estimated percentages were actually calculated though, so it remains to be seen. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:37 AM
#20
The day is here when Bifrost breaks Nor sun or moon will rise When the dead rise from their graves And Surtr spreads his fire All you know will wither away And sink into the sea A new world will be born one day Where everyone is free |
Dec 4, 2020 9:46 AM
#21
The battle would have been better and more terrifying if the characters died. Issyama, have you become a coward? There are 12 characters in the same place, why do not you kill? A character is in danger and then at the last moment is rescued. The same scenario is repeated, especially since Chapter 129, this has become very boring. This reminds me of the Battle of Winterfell in the Game of Thrones series. There is a fear, there is a danger, but there are no characters who die. Issyama said he did not like the end of Game of Thrones, but he repeats his mistakes |
Dec 4, 2020 9:49 AM
#22
Really chaotic chapter loll. Where tf is Eren, I haven't seen him in forever. Ymir is doing all the work now. "Even if we die, even after we die."- seeing all the titan shifters come back and bertoto crying was really interesting. I wonder if they're conscious, because if they are then that means they aren't free even in death. |
╭⋟──────────────────────╮ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma ╰──────────────────────⋞╯ |
Dec 4, 2020 9:50 AM
#23
On another note, great chapter. I think some of us fail to realize that there are still some chapters left and major characters dying here wouldn't really help the narrative. Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:28 AM
Dec 4, 2020 9:51 AM
#24
ramy22 said: The battle would have been better and more terrifying if the characters died. Issyama, have you become a coward? There are 12 characters in the same place, why do not you kill? A character is in danger and then at the last moment is rescued. The same scenario is repeated, especially since Chapter 129, this has become very boring. This reminds me of the Battle of Winterfell in the Game of Thrones series. There is a fear, there is a danger, but there are no characters who die. Issyama said he did not like the end of Game of Thrones, but he repeats his mistakes Chill a little, the manga isn't over. We don't know yet what Isayama is planning or what he's setting up. It would be better to wait for future chapters before coming to these conclusions. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:51 AM
#25
I read some of the fans were disappointed because no one died, first I don`t think having two major kills in a short time without giving a proper time and build for the next character to shine before death is a good idea (the first kill was Hange 3 chapters ago!), also don`t forget this is the first chapter of the battle, we should wait for a better moment, 80% of these characters had been with us since the beginning, they deserve a better ending than a random titans kill them. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:54 AM
#26
Tsarko said: Hope they get Tominoed soon, that would be actual fun to see. lol you sadist but if that Tomino trope of kill them all happens here too then ye Attack on Titan is really just a Gundam story a bio mecha |
Dec 4, 2020 9:55 AM
#27
Also why would anyone want major character death in this one when we had hange's death literally 3 chapters ago. In anime wise,it would have been in last ep. Any deaths here would have been a disaster narrative wise. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:56 AM
#28
I love how everyone who says "cheap death teasing is cheap" being called out as an "edgelord", "hater", "troll" and some other names. Awesome arguments, if somebody doesn't like something he must be a troll. Well I personally rate AoT 8,5 or even 9/10, and I still think somebody should have died this chapter. Rainer/Falco/Jean, pick one or even two. We all know Mikasa, Levi and Armin are important to die rn, but "Rainer can't die" is a meme which is not even funny anymore. It's not about hating characters or wishing to see people die, it's about realism and stakes. Instead we've got a lot of teasing so we couldn't relax and felt a constant danger plus last minute saving from flying cringe. Good chapter, but not "great 10/10 OMG best shit I've ever rear". Kinda predictable except for the titan shifters spamming. That part was cool as hell. |
Dec 4, 2020 9:57 AM
#29
SethBigBoss said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died, hentai tentacle tag out of nowhere.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. Whenever a main character dies in AOT, it serves to push the plot and develop and characterize other cast members. It's not just to prove "war is hell and ppl die all the time". If a scout member died just because of that it would be a shallow reason to kill them, all for the sake of "well it would make sense maybe". Quite a sad way to end a character's contribution to the story. Mikasa is very strong and uses her strength for the ppl she cares about, that's a big part of her character, her saving ppl is not that out of place. I do get why ppl thought the plot armor was odd tho. Flying titan is not an asspull. We have a monkey titan and a titan that can control the earth. It's also been foreshadowed several times, including in season 2 op. Sales have almost nothing to do with quality. At all. SnK's story has been pretty amazing to many with the last couple arcs. Even if you dislike one chapter that doesn't discount the whole thing, imo. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:29 AM
╭⋟──────────────────────╮ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma ╰──────────────────────⋞╯ |
Dec 4, 2020 10:00 AM
#30
Ok chapter. All the interesting build up get thrown out of the window when Annie comes and saves the day. LoL, Isayama is in hurry. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:01 AM
#31
deg said: Tsarko said: Hope they get Tominoed soon, that would be actual fun to see. lol you sadist but if that Tomino trope of kill them all happens here too then ye Attack on Titan is really just a Gundam story a bio mecha Attack on Titan has been Zeta Gundam clone this whole time! |
TsarkoDec 4, 2020 10:06 AM
Dec 4, 2020 10:02 AM
#32
TitanGotRekt said: Also why would anyone want major character death in this one when we had hange's death literally 3 chapters ago. In anime wise,it would have been in last ep. Any deaths here would have been a disaster narrative wise. Such major characters as... Pieck. Or, oh my god, Connie. Not him please. You know we can lose 1 character here, 1 character there? This is the war, people die there... Hange dying doesn't mean everyone else became immortal for few hours lmao. I haven't complained about everyone surviving Monkey's attack at the previous chapter, but this is just thicc plot armor. Especially Reiner's one. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:02 AM
#33
TheMangaManiac said: I love how everyone who says "cheap death teasing is cheap" being called out as an "edgelord", "hater", "troll" and some other names. Here I'll disagree without hating: Whenever a main character dies in AOT, it serves to push the plot and develop and characterize other cast members. It's not just to prove "war is hell and ppl die all the time". If a scout member died just because of that it would be a shallow reason to kill them, all for the sake of "well it would make sense maybe". Quite a sad way to end a character's contribution to the story. this is just my perspective tho, I get why ppl might've found it strange. |
╭⋟──────────────────────╮ "All problems come from the human mind. In the mind, one's consciousness is just the tip of the iceberg. What lies beneath the surface... the subconscious... is far more vast." - Shun Aonuma ╰──────────────────────⋞╯ |
Dec 4, 2020 10:04 AM
#34
Tsarko said: deg said: Tsarko said: Hope they get Tominoed soon, that would be actual fun to see. lol you sadist but if that Tomino trope of kill them all happens here too then ye Attack on Titan is really just a Gundam story a bio mecha Attack on Titan has been Zeta Gundam clone this whole time! lol there is actually memes for it, i hope the original gundam and zeta gundam gets a remake so i can watch those |
Dec 4, 2020 10:05 AM
#35
Chill a little, the manga isn't over. We don't know yet what Isayama is planning or what he's setting up. It would be better to wait for future chapters before coming to these conclusions.[/quote] I am talking about this battle. It was a terrifying battle and there was no hope. Any character should have died. No one knows what will happen in the next chapter |
Dec 4, 2020 10:06 AM
#36
SethBigBoss said: Johan3333 said: SethBigBoss said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- 3 last minute rescues; cheesy last panel, nobody died.. Yeah it wasn't great Oh! And a flying titan, ridiculous, why not a titan who teleports? No wonder snk'sales dropped to the tenth position this year with this writing. And characters dying isn't cheesy? Since the whole quest of Eren, characters have been dying. Something like that gets old fast if repeated constantly and shows lack of skill to make something else happen. No, people dying in war isn't cheesy, it's realistic. What's cheesy is main characters dying constantly for the sake of shock value or melodrama. Their whole plan was already brought to ruin, which is realistic considering they were naive. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:30 AM
Dec 4, 2020 10:09 AM
#37
So, you believe in Titans came out of thin air but a flying titan is too much for your brain cells, quite watching you hypocrite. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:13 AM
#38
It was a 4/5 for me. While I did dislike everyone somehow surviving, it would have been anticlimactic to have anyone at the place die by a random titan. What worries me is the implications this chapter poses. Isayama could have made someone have a meaningful death and spent less time on just random titans popping up and being defeated. I do hope some of them will die in the next chapters but I am worried if Isayama is telling us this will be a much more positive ending than expected. In a way, I felt like he went all out in this chapter for the alliance haters fanservice just to get it out of there so he can start writing a somewhat ''happier'' ending. In conclusion, whether this chapter is a hit or a miss will be decided by the next one, if no one dies in 136 either, then this is a cause for worry, as we would be heading for a typical shonen ending. I trust Isayama tho, so lets just wait. I extremely enjoyed Ymir stuff in this chapter as well as the Bert cameo. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:16 AM
#39
I'm glad that Ymir is still playing important part in the story. Even as full Eren supporter I gotta say Alliance had some epic moments this chapter. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:19 AM
#41
Is this what Isayama meant by the Guardians of the Galaxy ending? |
Dec 4, 2020 10:26 AM
#42
Are they really hating on the chapter because it lacked a charcter death ? You guys just want to throw their development just so they can have a cheap random death ? That's not even how death scenes are built they need to have substance them with stakes to know what the charactdr is giving up and give them a proper send off, you dont just kill characters because "No OnE SaFe, GOT style so kool 🤪😱🤯". Mod Edit: Removed baiting. |
anime-primeDec 21, 2020 2:31 AM
Laugh and the world laughs with you, weep and you weep alone. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:33 AM
#43
TheMangaManiac said: TitanGotRekt said: Also why would anyone want major character death in this one when we had hange's death literally 3 chapters ago. In anime wise,it would have been in last ep. Any deaths here would have been a disaster narrative wise. Such major characters as... Pieck. Or, oh my god, Connie. Not him please. You know we can lose 1 character here, 1 character there? This is the war, people die there... Hange dying doesn't mean everyone else became immortal for few hours lmao. I haven't complained about everyone surviving Monkey's attack at the previous chapter, but this is just thicc plot armor. Especially Reiner's one. Someone already said it once here so let me just rephrase it.It would be a disaster narrative wise.What purpose would any death serve in this chapter? Killing off anyone as you suggest here like connie,pieck would be seen as cheap death and Won't serve any emotional purpose nor any plot progression.The chapter's purpose was to give off the feeling that even the humanity’s best soldiers and shifters can't stop this disaster and it gave it off successfully.Also you do Understand that there are more chapters left,right? |
Dec 4, 2020 10:35 AM
#44
This chapter was rather disappointing. The entire chapter is about fighting a completely hopeless battle, but everybody survives. Maybe if it wasn't a monthly manga, it wouldn't be so annoying to have a chapter with basically nothing happening at all. |
Dec 4, 2020 10:37 AM
#45
Really disappointing chapter. The flying Titan is so fucking dumb I know it was foreshadowed but my god was it disappointing. |
FUCK HER RIGHT IN THE PUSSY!!! |
Dec 4, 2020 10:43 AM
#47
YeagerBonebone said: out of all the ridiculous things that happen in the series, a flying titan is where they draw the line. These people are just too selective about what they want to trash talk.SethBigBoss said: AdolZeppeli said: Damn, things doesn't look too pretty for Armin and Co. Armin got swallowed up and he had visions of Berthold, damn. I read somewhere that Isayama wants to do a crushing ending, so I bet we're probably going to see many die (as if there hasn't been enough death in the surroundings, billions of people already massacred. Also, we know for a fact that Eren and all those that are titans are going to die sooner due to their shorter lifespan, so I hope to see some actual consequences to those that aren't, either they get incapacitated or killed. There has been a lot of foreshadowing regarding a flying titan, Falco even mentioned that he saw someone flying in his memories. So not sure how is this "ridiculous" Being foreshadowed doesn't mean it can't be ridiculous Why? There are plenty of animals that can fly. Why would it be ridicilous for a Titan to have this ability? |
Dec 4, 2020 10:45 AM
#48
Dec 4, 2020 10:49 AM
#49
its also too predictable to kill off another character so soon after hange. Realistically he could've only taken a minor character, which just follows a pattern of killing the insignificant. I would rather him not just pick off random minor characters that are left just for some bad fan service shock value |
Dec 4, 2020 11:01 AM
#50
cAbaddon said: I think people might be missing the point aswell. If eren is controlling the titans, then the likelihood is that he does not want to kill themThe battle is beginning, the deaths will come. |
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