| Monogatari: bunch of pseudo pretentious conversations that only led to Araragi talking about how horny he gets for the girls including his sisters and a few minors. SNK: These guys are the definition of "In this essay I will" explain why SnK is the best piece of media in existance and willl go even further than the eva fanbase to justify and look for some weird clues that "everything was made from the start" like a few shadows being Eren in the first chapters and stuff. Ridiculous. Madoka: Thank god they are almost dead now, but it was painful how hard they went on "How Madoka defied every cliche in the magical girl genre" when other series did it before, better, and with less shit, like Utena. |
| The most notorious are Monogatari fans. They imagine that this mere harem ecchi show (which is 90% dirty talks and sexy poses) is something deep and thoughtful and the God's Epiphany itself. And if you dare to say it's not that good then prepare to have lots of insults and death wishes. |
Nemo_NiemandNov 19, 2020 2:29 PM
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| How do you detect a pretentious fanbase? How did you even manage to start a conversation with them in the first place? Why do you discuss anime? How do you manage to find a deep meaning in an anime? HOW CAN YOU FIND A DEEP MEANING INSIDE AN ENTERTAINMENT CULTURE? And once more: WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DISCUSS ANIME!?? |
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| Evangelion and Monogatari fans. KuroNekoAlchemy said: Hello friend. ;)no anime in particular, but if you see someone with a list of favourites full of anime from 1990's and older, run! |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| LOGH. Character limit sucks. You only need four characters to end the thread. |
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| For clarification: I don’t say something like LotGH is a pretentious show which consider to be “critically acclaimed” series. I only describe the fanbase themselves (not generally tho), and most LoGH fans are like unlicensed professors who just want to flex with their pseudo-intellectual knowledge, when in fact, you don’t even have something like Ph.D degree. You are just an anime fan with pretentious mentality to be preachy with your so-called “intellectual taste”. Like I get it, you really want something educational? How about giving us some sort of fundraising program to educate most youths who needs to be educated? In that way, you’ll benefit the society just how LotGH shows how most soldiers contribute themselves and the society as their moral sense that should have been a lesson to be learned from it. It’s kinda ironic that LotGH is an “elitist” show, when in my understanding, it has main theme that portrays about combating against elitism itself too. Wow, I’ve never seen that coming. Also, what mean in “professor” analogy is what Maneki-Neko’s reply best described for towards most intellectual shows, “Professor’s lecture with boring 20+ minutes”. Are you going to please the students to have 20+ minutes of boring lecture that is needed to “educate” with the requirement of high IQ standard? Psychologically, no. They will mostly tend to yawn and fall asleep with drowsy brain cells. With that, those intellectual shows can also failed one significant criteria that can psychologically affect the audience, and that is entertainment. If you think sitting in front of the “professor” discussing about his/her “boring” lecture is entertaining for you, that’s fine... I don’t give a shit. Keep educating. But you don’t have to be a dick to flex with your “superior” knowledge towards every average human being because we all have limited thought process. That’s just an excuse of how insecure and pedant you are. Thus, pretentiousness is one of the toxic traits within every Internet culture too. There's always a large barrier of pure definition between education and entertainment. Mixing it both can be determined to its own merits to be effective, but each audience's verdict will be subjectively depended on. |
HanashiD4Nov 19, 2020 6:56 PM
 "You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
| I find these types of threads tiresome and ill-willed. These have been here forever. Just another venting party for people who try to put others down for their opinions. These threads create nothing of value, but they give birth for a chance to ruin someone's day or perhaps encourage people to bring out their inner toxicity (which is both harmful for themselves and for others in both short and long run.). For anyone with any level of critical thinking it is obvious that confirmation bias plays a huge role whenever someone tries to make these kinds of general assumptions. These type of threads only serve to worsen the level of discourse and bring even more toxicity into the forums. More often than not the people who participate in these types of discussions are more of a problem than the few annoying fans of *insert a series of your choice*. |
GorimNov 19, 2020 3:39 PM
Gorim said: I find these types of threads tiresome and ill-willed. These have been here forever. Just another venting party for people who try to put others down for their opinions. These threads create nothing of value, but they give birth for a chance to ruin someone's day or perhaps encourage people to bring out their inner toxicity (which is both harmful for themselves and for others in both short and long run.). For anyone with any level of critical thinking it is obvious that confirmation bias plays a huge role whenever someone tries to make these kinds of general assumptions. These type of threads only serve to worsen the level of discourse and bring even more toxicity into the forums. More often than not the people who participate in these types of discussions are more of a problem than the few annoying fans of *insert a series of your choice*. The Anime Discussion section of the MAL forum has a "I just saw this thread yesterday by a different OP" problem, but it is too far gone to care about. Although I will say most of the shows being listed in a thread like this has more than "a few" annoying fans, and the people posting here are definitely not breeding more toxicity than those "few". |
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_FRB_ said: Gorim said: I find these types of threads tiresome and ill-willed. These have been here forever. Just another venting party for people who try to put others down for their opinions. These threads create nothing of value, but they give birth for a chance to ruin someone's day or perhaps encourage people to bring out their inner toxicity (which is both harmful for themselves and for others in both short and long run.). For anyone with any level of critical thinking it is obvious that confirmation bias plays a huge role whenever someone tries to make these kinds of general assumptions. These type of threads only serve to worsen the level of discourse and bring even more toxicity into the forums. More often than not the people who participate in these types of discussions are more of a problem than the few annoying fans of *insert a series of your choice*. The Anime Discussion section of the MAL forum has a "I just saw this thread yesterday by a different OP" problem, but it is too far gone to care about. Although I will say most of the shows being listed in a thread like this has more than "a few" annoying fans, and the people posting here are definitely not breeding more toxicity than those "few". About the amount of the annoying fans we just have to agree to disagree, because for sure I don't think there are more than a few. And even in the cases where there are few dozens it's just a droplet in the sea. I for one wouldn't feel comfortable as labeling a whole fanbase based on that. And I don't see any purpose in doing so anyway. I despair when OP and some other people here generalize others in this type of manner: "I only describe the fanbase themselves (not generally tho), and most LoGH fans are like..." On MyAnimeList LOGH has some 30 000 people who rate it 10/10. Actually just how many toxic LOGH fans have you seen in a past week lets say?I rarely ever see these pseudo-elitists being toxic or complaining, but I do see these types of threads with hundreds of disparaging comments on a weekly, if not daily, basis. The point is that I don't think there is need for either type of toxicity. Not the type which people are complaining here nor is there a need for these types of threads. These just bring out the worst in people. |
| First off, the OP did quite the malicious thing by saying "pretentious fanbase" which was simply a way to stoke tribalism among those who are prone to get offended by other people's opinions. With that said, the very premise of this thread is wrong. It isn't what anime's fanbase is pretentious, it's those in the overall anime fanbase who are pretentious. This is an important distinction because literally every fucking anime fanbase has it's group of pretentious individuals. Those who claim to have "refined taste" and ram their opinions down everyone's throats thinking they're hot shit. It doesn't matter if they like MHA or the Monogatari Series, because those type of people will champion either of those shows and act toxic regardless. Now there is nothing wrong with stating your opinion about something in a reasonable and civil manner, but pretentious posturing is what shitbags do. Anyways, we all watch cartoons, so it isn't really worth degrading a certain fanbase for no reason than just the fact that you didn't like that cartoon. Don't act like a child. |
it's over | we're so back | don't take this too seriously |
Gorim said: I find these types of threads tiresome and ill-willed. These have been here forever. Just another venting party for people who try to put others down for their opinions. These threads create nothing of value, but they give birth for a chance to ruin someone's day or perhaps encourage people to bring out their inner toxicity (which is both harmful for themselves and for others in both short and long run.). For anyone with any level of critical thinking it is obvious that confirmation bias plays a huge role whenever someone tries to make these kinds of general assumptions. These type of threads only serve to worsen the level of discourse and bring even more toxicity into the forums. More often than not the people who participate in these types of discussions are more of a problem than the few annoying fans of *insert a series of your choice*. Dude just check OP's post history and you'll see he's just likely projecting his faults and insecurities to other people. Note that he keeps on blaming others when he's been doing the same. |
justinian_1Nov 19, 2020 4:40 PM
| Evangelion, HxH, Tatami Galaxy, Monogatari, Texhnolyze, LoGH |
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| I guess I haven't spent too much time on LoGH threads because I fucking love that show and never thought it was this popular and that the fanbase is also this trashy. I have to agree with people when it comes to NGE tho, another one of my favorite shows like people really think they are really smart because they "get it". But back to the point of thread, yeah Re:Zero takes the cake and I even enjoy some aspects of the show but if you say anything about one of the shitty waifus and you get 200 people trying to tell you that you didn't pay attention to the detail in someone character that was there for half a frame and that will be explained 20 episodes later why this is the best show of all time space continuum from dimension W and next season will explain everything and your mind will be blown away, that you will be in a time loop in the universe of Steins Gate where a Gate will open and dinosaurs will fly and breath fire while fighting goku.... |
| It would be Madoka Magica. I think its fanbase don't know the meaning of "desconstruction" since they use this word very often to sell this series. Madoka just another Mahou Shoujo only with darker twist, just that :v. Steins;Gate. You need 200 IQ to understand this bullshit. It just another dating sim harem. Admit it :) |
justinian_1 said: Gorim said: I find these types of threads tiresome and ill-willed. These have been here forever. Just another venting party for people who try to put others down for their opinions. These threads create nothing of value, but they give birth for a chance to ruin someone's day or perhaps encourage people to bring out their inner toxicity (which is both harmful for themselves and for others in both short and long run.). For anyone with any level of critical thinking it is obvious that confirmation bias plays a huge role whenever someone tries to make these kinds of general assumptions. These type of threads only serve to worsen the level of discourse and bring even more toxicity into the forums. More often than not the people who participate in these types of discussions are more of a problem than the few annoying fans of *insert a series of your choice*. Dude just check OP's post history and you'll see he's just likely projecting his faults and insecurities to other people. Note that he keeps on blaming others when he's been doing the same. Eh? Since when I keep on blaming others? |
"You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
Lucifrost said: Umineko fans are easily the most pretentious. If you haven't noticed, it's only because most of them hate the anime. What I mean is, there's less exposure to the fanbase on MAL. Because this isn't a visual novel site. The anime and visual novel are two different entities. How does them not liking the questionable anime adaption make them pretentious? I don't dislike the anime, but it is hardly a fair representation as to why we love Umineko so much. When an anime is a poor adaption of the source material, it's fair to call it out. I don't see this as pretentious. |
 ☆☆☆ "There's a huge difference between one and infinity. However, compared to the difference between existence and non-existence, one and infinite are nearly the same. I am the child destined to become the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!" -Maria Ushiromiya ☆☆☆ |
| AOT fans, I reviewed AOT manga once and two guys came to argue on my profile about how deep it actually is. I have also seen a bunch of them in the wild calling it the greatest manga ever made because of the twist. They clearly have never seen Gundam before. |
| Maybe Dragon Ball. "Can he beat Goku though?" Whenever a fight discussion busts out. Demon Slayer fans usually are the most toxic fan base along with Boku no hero academia. |
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Gorim said: _FRB_ said: The Anime Discussion section of the MAL forum has a "I just saw this thread yesterday by a different OP" problem, but it is too far gone to care about. Although I will say most of the shows being listed in a thread like this has more than "a few" annoying fans, and the people posting here are definitely not breeding more toxicity than those "few". About the amount of the annoying fans we just have to agree to disagree, because for sure I don't think there are more than a few. And even in the cases where there are few dozens it's just a droplet in the sea. I for one wouldn't feel comfortable as labeling a whole fanbase based on that. And I don't see any purpose in doing so anyway. I despair when OP and some other people here generalize others in this type of manner: "I only describe the fanbase themselves (not generally tho), and most LoGH fans are like..." On MyAnimeList LOGH has some 30 000 people who rate it 10/10. Actually just how many toxic LOGH fans have you seen in a past week lets say?I rarely ever see these pseudo-elitists being toxic or complaining, but I do see these types of threads with hundreds of disparaging comments on a weekly, if not daily, basis. The point is that I don't think there is need for either type of toxicity. Not the type which people are complaining here nor is there a need for these types of threads. These just bring out the worst in people. You know, there are most fans who fail to understand the merits of how LotGH intended to do. I have watched 13 episodes of it, and I can determine the narrative theme and theory which is the political and social criticism against elitism itself, considering that as a concrete reference towards everything that every politician, aristocrat, and general is highly proud of themselves, which it is an ironic effect towards most fans since they mostly think of themselves as same as these aforementioned examples rather than how the main cast of LoTGH being portrayed to. It's becoming a meme right now to the point that most fans have became pretentious due to the failed application of morality from how LoTGH delivered to be in a moral sense. That is blatant hypocrisy and betrayal by ignoring what they learned from the theme itself. Every show like LotGH has its value, and yet most fans (in elitist sense) are contradictory from understanding and applying the value of it. It’s more of their just own style. |
HanashiD4Nov 20, 2020 2:51 AM
"You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
Adimus_prime said: This thread is absolute ass cancer. Why does it have more replies than my horniest fandom thread? The denizens of this website just find cancer much more fun than something as wholesome as praising the 10/10 fate doujins or the godlike AL fanarts. |
| I like how people bitching about this thread's toxic nature have like, a couple of hundred posts at most. Let's see if they stay active for 5 more years and keep saying the same things in threads like this. Spoiler: This board was always a dump, is a dump, and will continue to be a dump. This thread is absolutely nothing in comparison to the scope of that, and even if you're a member who leaves a crater of an impact and spends the better part of 10 years writing multi-thousand word essays railing against threads like this one and going after people in them with equal vigor - like Pullman did - you're not changing anything. Even if you reach someone and get them to disapprove of threads like this, they'll leave, just like all short-term regulars, and new ones will pop up and you'll get stuck in a cycle of starting from scratch every time you fight against shitty behavior because some of the new folk will always bring that sort of thing in with them. Do what most people do and ignore threads like this one on account of your problems with them and let us vent about shit that annoys us. Cut the goodie goodie, "but this is toxic" bullshit. Nobody wants to hear your soapboxing about how threads like this one are shitty and bad, you're not opening anybody's eyes unless they're similarly inexperienced and lacking perspective. Or, for a more cynical interpretation, stop trying to leapfrog onto the obvious to pretend you're making a profound statement about people acting like assholes. It doesn't matter how articulate you are whenever your post has the depth of a fucking puddle, if you can't distinguish yourself through legitimate knowledge of a topic or multiple topics and you don't stick around long enough to prove it, you're not getting much spotlight any time soon. It doesn't make you look smart or interesting to anybody worth talking to, I promise. Everything you're saying has been said hundreds of times before, and all you're doing is joining in that sea of same-faces who also thought people would think that they were smart or observant for pointing out the obvious. |
ManabanNov 20, 2020 5:55 AM
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operationvalkyri said: To Love Ru has the most pretentious fanbase. thank you, finally someone says acknowledges it we are the LotGH fans of anime tits |
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WNchad said: EndlessMaria said: The anime and visual novel are two different entities. How does them not liking the questionable anime adaption make them pretentious? I don't dislike the anime, but it is hardly a fair representation as to why we love Umineko so much. When an anime is a poor adaption of the source material, it's fair to call it out. I don't see this as pretentious. PREACH KEEP PREACHING MATE. And then he'll call you pretentious, won't he? That’s not what I meant at all. It’s because the anime is considered bad that Umineko is rarely discussed on MAL. So there’s few opportunities to see just how pretentious the fanbase is. It’s the attitude towards the games that’s pretentious, not the attitude towards the anime. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| Oh, and VN fans are also just an entirely different thing all together. They have a tendency to sourcefa(n) so hard that they can put LN and manga sourcfa(n)s to shame, which, yes, is not only impressive, but failing to understand what being an adaptation even entails and basing your criticisms around a lack of diehard commitment to displaying every nook and cranny of the usually very long material its based on is extremely pretentious, at least if we're operating under the established definition of pretentious in this thread. You don't know shit about decent critique if you have to base it around that much. That's putting aside other amazing stuff I've run into. My personal favorite experience is when someone tried to argue to me he was more of an ecchi fan than I am, purely on the basis that he reads VNs and I don't, or how some people got their posts screened and pulled over to some wanky subreddit where people could shittalk them and pat each other on the back for being the only ones to truly understand and appreciate why VNs were superior. I don't know what it is about voice acted picture books with BGM that elevates it so far above pretty much any semi-related media, but I'm clearly not ascended enough to grasp the amazing depth of such things. I'm reminded of when South Park did an episode about Prius drivers where they just keep sniffing their own farts the whole time. Just replace the cars you drive with preferring VNs. |
ManabanNov 20, 2020 6:11 AM
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WNchad said: I love how you write paragraphs upon paragraphs but the content within is truly vapid. Scamboli was right. then go for it break apart what i have to say and expose me for the farce that i am |
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then it shouldn't be an issue for you to totally tear apart please, rip me a new one, i'm waiting |
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Manaban said: I don't know what it is about voice acted picture books with BGM that elevates it so far above pretty much any semi-related media, but I'm clearly not ascended enough to grasp the amazing depth of such things. I'm reminded of when South Park did an episode about Prius drivers where they just keep sniffing their own farts the whole time. Just replace the cars you drive with preferring VNs. I think it’s the relative obscurity that creates an echo chamber. The visual novel market is so much smaller than the anime market that most of them are aimed at niche audiences. The upcoming Muv Luv anime will disappoint, mark my words. |
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Lucifrost said: I think it’s the relative obscurity that creates an echo chamber. The visual novel market is so much smaller than the anime market that most of them are aimed at niche audiences. The upcoming Muv Luv anime will disappoint, mark my words. The issue I tend to take is the same for pretty much all three, between LN, manga, and VN - usually it's just responding to issues people are taking with the series, and then trying to move that discussion to an area where they can dictate the contents and quality thereof to the other party, which they're likely unfamiliar with. It's a cheap way to try to negate criticism, and it's why it almost invariably boils down to people saying some variation of "it was way better in the manga/LN/VN." The differences between adaptation and source and the severity of their impact are incredibly flexible at that point, so long as the other party can use it in a way to dictate the *actual* quality of the series and why the anime is just some cheap knock-off. It's a pansy-ass way of trying to deflect criticism towards the series, more or less. It's not tackling it head-on or discussing it in any meaningful way whatsoever. Worse yet is when the criticisms from their end are rooted in an adaptation not being 1:1 with the source material, as if any adaptation was ever obligated to do that. The adaptation doesn't owe shit to the source material, it's functioning as an independent entity with entirely different creators that are just using the source as a basis for their own work - and hell, I'd argue that in cases like Nazo no Kanojo X or Sankarea, the drastic changes the adaptations made were significant *improvements.* In that context, trying to pass the adaptation off as cheap bullshit compared to the real deal reeks more of fans being insecure of their content reaching a wider audience more than anything. Could be a lack of confidence in their series' quality, or it could be just a way to try to flex how they were into something before it's cool. That matters little in the face of it usually just being absolute bullshit, though. |
ManabanNov 20, 2020 7:11 AM
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| @Manaban You have a point. But discussions of an anime’s source material can also be pretentious when criticism of any sort is frowned upon. It’s always “you don’t understand” or even “it gets better.” Of course it will seem to get better if the haters all drop it before that point! |
| その目だれの目？ |
| A lot of pretentious fanbases out there like LotGH or something but the most arrogant about it are like the romance fanbases imo Toradora, Tatami Galaxy, monogatari, bunny girl are just euhhghhhgh @Kshitij007 is on to something though. |
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| Monogatari, 3-gatsu no Lion, Steins;Gate & Neon Genesis Evangelion. |
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| Can somebody understand the intentions of satire around here? This is like writing a fucking 5-paragraph serious essay about a certain meme in "X starter pack" format. |
"You don't get it, a million sorry's is not equal to one thank you." — Emilia |
| @WNchad What the fuck does scamboli have to do with this? HanashiD4 said: I see you're still new around here.Can somebody understand the intentions of satire around here? This is like writing a fucking 5-paragraph serious essay about a certain meme in "X starter pack" format. Is this criticism towards @Manaban? |
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