Toilet-bound Hanako-kun
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Chiibi said: even so, claiming someone is transgender or is crossdressing simply based on their appearance is extremely rude and offensive and superficialAbout 50%. I just have a hard time believing Mitsuba is straight...and I KNOW I'm not the only one...and I'm pretty sure if I asked my guy friends 'Do you take pics of your guy friends without telling them?" they'd say "No, that's gay." |
ttcchen said: even so, claiming someone is transgender or is crossdressing simply based on their appearance is extremely rude and offensive and superficial Lol it's called a "headcanon", honey....don't get so offended over the sake of lines and ink. |
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Chiibi said: ttcchen said: even so, claiming someone is transgender or is crossdressing simply based on their appearance is extremely rude and offensive and superficial Lol it's called a "headcanon", honey....don't get so offended over the sake of lines and ink. Headcanon for this show, sure whatever. But the way you said it sounds like ur claiming when a guy looks feminine be it him having pink hair or cute features, then he must be gay or transgender. That's what i feel is offensive. |
ttcchen said: But the way you said it sounds like ur claiming when a guy looks feminine be it him having pink hair or cute features, then he must be gay or transgender. Because  I haven't seen  much anime that  PROVES ME WRONG  How is it offensive to state the truth? |
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Chiibi said: well then you haven't seen many anime at allttcchen said: But the way you said it sounds like ur claiming when a guy looks feminine be it him having pink hair or cute features, then he must be gay or transgender. Because I haven't seen much anime that PROVES ME WRONG How is it offensive to state the truth? |
| This episode was good but tbh things are progressing too fast to feel sympathy for the characters. |
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| This episode hit so hard. Tsukasa is even creepier than before. (What is it with villains being named Tsukasa?? First Dr. Stone and now this xD And I have a new appreciation for what a great character Kou is-- developing from the typical hot-headed secondary male protag to a very well thought out and empathetic character. His idea of making donuts and everything he did with Mitsuba made me internally go, 'Aww'. Really high hopes for this anime! |
ttcchen said: well then you haven't seen many anime at all Yes, I certainly have and I can post MORE images of such characters if you want. I bet you didn't even know most of those shows lol |
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| Just how much is the budget for this anime? There's hardly any motion at all. It's like watching a picture drama and the mouth movements sometimes don't match the voices. A shame since the visuals are so stunning. Development happened way too fast. Hard to empathize with someone we just knew 10 minutes ago. Would have been better if Mitsuba was introduced earlier in the show. Mitsuba arc is pretty underwhelming in general even in the manga. Since the next episode is already on the Tea Party arc, I'm guessing they really did just skip over the Mermaid arc lmfao. What a joke. |
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Chiibi said: the fact that someone doesn't watch the same animes as you doesn't mean they're any less knowledgeable on the topic of gender and sexuality in the anime medium.ttcchen said: well then you haven't seen many anime at all Yes, I certainly have and I can post MORE images of such characters if you want. I bet you didn't even know most of those shows lol |
ttcchen said: Chiibi said: the fact that someone doesn't watch the same animes as you doesn't mean they're any less knowledgeable on the topic of gender and sexuality in the anime medium.Yes, I certainly have and I can post MORE images of such characters if you want. I bet you didn't even know most of those shows lol You're definitely less knowledgeable just for using the word "animes". :/ But if you watched BL or shoujo anime, you'd notice effeminate characters just like Mitsuba are indeed gay...so it's weird to yell at me for expecting a stereotype when given what looks, sounds, and acts very much like an uke character in BL anime. |
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Chiibi said: well guess what? This isn't a BL anime. BL animes are about gay tomance so obviously if a guy's feminine he's gonna be gay. But in shoujo animes? Rarely is a feminine/pretty guy actually gay. And i used the word anime because anime is what we're talking about.ttcchen said: the fact that someone doesn't watch the same animes as you doesn't mean they're any less knowledgeable on the topic of gender and sexuality in the anime medium. You're definitely less knowledgeable just for using the word "animes". :/ But if you watched BL or shoujo anime, you'd notice effeminate characters just like Mitsuba are indeed gay...so it's weird to yell at me for expecting a stereotype when given what looks, sounds, and acts very much like an uke character in BL anime. |
ttcchen said: Chiibi said: well guess what? This isn't a BL anime. BL animes are about gay tomance so obviously if a guy's feminine he's gonna be gay. But in shoujo animes? Rarely is a feminine/pretty guy actually gay. And i used the word anime because anime is what we're talking about.You're definitely less knowledgeable just for using the word "animes". :/ But if you watched BL or shoujo anime, you'd notice effeminate characters just like Mitsuba are indeed gay...so it's weird to yell at me for expecting a stereotype when given what looks, sounds, and acts very much like an uke character in BL anime. The plural of anime is 'ANIME' not, "animes". Hanako-kun is actually a shounen anime but that doesn't rule out a male character being gay. It happens...and it's been happening more and more because you know why. I'm not INSISTING Mitsuba's gay; we won't know unless Aida-sensei tells us. Just that he gave me those 'vibes' because of how much he resembles a BL character...along with how his scenes with Kou are directed. At the very least, it's Ship Tease...and the author is certainly having fun with it by having Mitsuba make all those molestation jokes about Kou having his way with him "JUST LIKE IN PORN". |
ChiibiMar 2, 2020 4:04 PM
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Chiibi said: now you're just being a grammar police. i don't care how i type on the internet as long as people can understand me i don't care if "animes" is a word or not.ttcchen said: well guess what? This isn't a BL anime. BL animes are about gay tomance so obviously if a guy's feminine he's gonna be gay. But in shoujo animes? Rarely is a feminine/pretty guy actually gay. And i used the word anime because anime is what we're talking about. The plural of anime is 'ANIME' not, "animes". Hanako-kun is actually a shounen anime but that doesn't rule out a male character being gay. It happens...and it's been happening more and more because you know why. I'm not INSISTING Mitsuba's gay; we won't know unless Aida-sensei tells us. Just that he gave me those 'vibes' because of how much he resembles a BL character...along with how his scenes with Kou are directed. At the very least, it's Ship Tease...and the author is certainly having fun with it by having Mitsuba make all those molestation jokes about Kou having his way with him "JUST LIKE IN PORN". Yes, shounen animes can have gay characters. im not denying that possibility. but, just because a guy looks feminine doesn't mean they're gay. and you said earlier something along the lines of "if they're not gay then they're transgender" and that's what i took the most offense at. just cause a guy looks cute/pretty means they're FTM or MTF? you gotta be kidding me. how shallow-minded can you be? |
ttcchen said: . i don't care how i type on the internet as long as people can understand me i don't care if "animes" is a word or not. Well, it looks stupid but if you choose to type stupidly, that's certainly your own decision. Yes, shounen animes can have gay characters. im not denying that possibility. but, just because a guy looks feminine doesn't mean they're gay. and you said earlier something along the lines of "if they're not gay then they're transgender" and that's what i took the most offense at. I also said I was "half-serious" so please get over it already :p |
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| I was excited to see how they would animate Mitsuba's arc and I've to agree that there were some evident mistakes such as some dialogues which were out of sync... but in the end, it didn't bother me that much. I still loved this episode! R.I.P. my precious Mitsuba. You know that Kou will never forget you.  |
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Chiibi said: this isn't something to joke aboutttcchen said: . i don't care how i type on the internet as long as people can understand me i don't care if "animes" is a word or not. Well, it looks stupid but if you choose to type stupidly, that's certainly your own decision. Yes, shounen animes can have gay characters. im not denying that possibility. but, just because a guy looks feminine doesn't mean they're gay. and you said earlier something along the lines of "if they're not gay then they're transgender" and that's what i took the most offense at. I also said I was "half-serious" so please get over it already :p And are you honestly resorting to calling someone stupid because you know you lost the argument and don't have any better insults? Wow. Even my ten year old niece knows better insults. |
They are fictional characters and they don't have real feelings so YES, I CAN joke about them. Who are you to say "You can't do that"? You're not a mod so don't boss me around. And I didn't call YOU stupid. I said typing "animes" looks stupid because it's incorrect. |
ChiibiMar 3, 2020 6:54 PM
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Maneki-Mew said: Dull_Lull said: Just how much is the budget for this anime? There's hardly any motion at all. It's like watching a picture drama and the mouth movements sometimes don't match the voices. A shame since the visuals are so stunning. Development happened way too fast. Hard to empathize with someone we just knew 10 minutes ago. Would have been better if Mitsuba was introduced earlier in the show. Mitsuba arc is pretty underwhelming in general even in the manga. Since the next episode is already on the Tea Party arc, I'm guessing they really did just skip over the Mermaid arc lmfao. What a joke. ... and that's great, because it's unique and still aestheically pleasing. The story has a lot about books as an element of "making up a story" (= rumors) and this style fits the idea perfectly. That's a poor excuse for its lackluster animation. I don't even mind the stylistic choice they went for some of the animation like when it cuts to manga panel-styled transitions but it's very evident there's hardly any motion in this adaptation. |
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Chiibi said: yes, by saying doing certain things is stupid ur calling the person who did those things stupid. Just because they don't have feelings doesn't mean you can joke around about their appearance and circumstances. Just having those thoughts make it obvious what kind of person you are. I am not telling you you can't do that. I'm trying to make you see my reasoning and understand that you're WRONG. But if u want to continue being a shallow fool, then so be it.They are fictional characters and they don't have real feelings so YES, I CAN joke about them. Who are you to say "You can't do that"? You're not a mod so don't boss me around. And I didn't call YOU stupid. I said typing "animes" looks stupid because it's incorrect. |
ttcchen said: yes, by saying doing certain things is stupid ur calling the person who did those things stupid. ....I don't think you understand how language works. Just because they don't have feelings doesn't mean you can joke around about their appearance and circumstances. Lol yes I can. That's exactly what it means. Just having those thoughts make it obvious what kind of person you are. I am a person who was fed a million of the same stereotype and have come to expect that stereotype when I come across a character who looks exactly like said stereotype. So don't make ME the bad guy here. Blame anime stereotypes. I'm trying to make you see my reasoning and understand that you're WRONG. I just gave you five stereotypes that prove me RIGHT...do you want me to find more cause I can do that. |
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Chiibi said: i don't think you understand how the internet works.ttcchen said: yes, by saying doing certain things is stupid ur calling the person who did those things stupid. ....I don't think you understand how language works. Just because they don't have feelings doesn't mean you can joke around about their appearance and circumstances. Lol yes I can. That's exactly what it means. Just having those thoughts make it obvious what kind of person you are. I am a person who was fed a million of the same stereotype and have come to expect that stereotype when I come across a character who looks exactly like said stereotype. So don't make ME the bad guy here. Blame anime stereotypes. I'm trying to make you see my reasoning and understand that you're WRONG. I just gave you five stereotypes that prove me RIGHT...do you want me to find more cause I can do that. Anime stereotypes? That cute/pretty guys are gay? That if girly guys aren't gay then they're transgender? I'd like to see some example of that. And give me proof that they're gay/trans. So just because you came across lots of asians who're good at math you'll expect the next asian you meet to be good at math? That's not expecting stereotypes. That's being racist. |
ttcchen said: i don't think you understand how the internet works. Oh I do. It's a pain in the ass and nobody can say anything about anything anymore because some sensitive little baby cries "REEEEEEEEEEE OFFENSIVE!!!" But I'm not going to f*cking walk on eggshells for YOU because you're reeeeeing over the sake of a fictional character whom I honestly liked a lot and am sad he is gone now. And give me proof that they're gay/trans. The characters I posted are Shuuichi (BL protagonist, gay af), Ran, (BL love interest, also gay), Nuriko, (shoujo character who dresses like a woman and is bisexual), and Shun another shoujo character who IS straight but he loves to crossdress....because. So go on, look them up. Other titles with characters like this (if not LGBT, they are crossdressers): Fruits Basket Sailor Moon (man there are a shit ton here) Pretear Ranma 1/2 Inuyasha Ouran High School Host Club Loveless Shinshi Doumei Cross Sakurahime Kaden Fate series Shugo Chara Yu Yu Hakusho Rurouni Kenshin Usotsuki Lily Happiness So just because you came across lots of asians who're good at math you'll expect the next asian you meet to be good at math? That's not expecting stereotypes. That's being racist. ...why the f*ck are you talking about racist things now? This has nothing to do with that. Anime character types are largely based on how they look. The way the character looks is normally what you get. I.e. "If she has twintails and a pouty expression, she's likely a tsundere". That's just how it works. So stop associating this with the REAL world like you're trying to paint me as a villain here. |
ChiibiMar 6, 2020 8:55 AM
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Chiibi said: because you're talking about stereotypes.ttcchen said: i don't think you understand how the internet works. Oh I do. It's a pain in the ass and nobody can say anything about anything anymore because some sensitive little baby cries "REEEEEEEEEEE OFFENSIVE!!!" And give me proof that they're gay/trans. The characters I posted are Shuuichi (BL protagonist, gay af), Ran, (BL love interest, also gay), Nuriko, (shoujo character who dresses like a woman and is bisexual), and Shun another shoujo character who IS straight but he loves to crossdress....because. So go on, look them up. Other titles with characters like this (if not LGBT, they are crossdressers): Fruits Basket Sailor Moon (man there are a shit ton here) Pretear Ranma 1/2 Inuyasha Ouran High School Host Club Loveless Shinshi Doumei Cross Sakurahime Kaden Fate series Shugo Chara Yu Yu Hakusho Rurouni Kenshin Usotsuki Lily Happiness So just because you came across lots of asians who're good at math you'll expect the next asian you meet to be good at math? That's not expecting stereotypes. That's being racist. ...why the f*ck are you talking about racist things now? This has nothing to do with that. Anime character types are largely based on how they look. The way the character looks is normally what you get. I.e. "If she has twintails and a pouty expression, she's likely a tsundere". That's just how it works. So stop associating this with the REAL world like you're trying to paint me as a villain here. Crossdress does not equal to being transgender. Do you even know what the word mean? You kept stating characters from BL manga. Hanako san is not a BL manga So ur whatever stereotypes from BL manga WHERE EVERYONE IS GAY doesn't work here. And sure there may occasionally be one like Nuriko who really is part of the LGBT but most anime guys who dress girly are never revealed to be gay or bi or trans so ur point is invalid |
My previous quote was this: Lol yeah, they're just transgender or crossdressers. xD OR. OR. I SAID "OR". You kept stating characters from BL manga. I named like three; gave you plenty of titles that are NOT BL. Hanako san is not a BL manga Neither are most of the titles I gave you but such characters pop up anyway? but most anime guys who dress girly are never revealed to be gay or bi or trans HAHAHAHAHAHA. Name some. I bet I can name way more than you who are. |
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Chiibi said: Are? What are you insinuating?My previous quote was this: Lol yeah, they're just transgender or crossdressers. xD OR. OR. I SAID "OR". You kept stating characters from BL manga. I named like three; gave you plenty of titles that are NOT BL. Hanako san is not a BL manga Neither are most of the titles I gave you but such characters pop up anyway? but most anime guys who dress girly are never revealed to be gay or bi or trans HAHAHAHAHAHA. Name some. I bet I can name way more than you who are. "There is a lot of characters in the anime who have female looks/traits, but are not gay." To which you replied they're either transgender of crossdressing. So just because a guy is too pretty for his own good while is still dressed like a guy, he's a transgender or is crossdressing, as in a girl crossdressing as a guy? That's ridiculous. I told you to give me specific characters, not anime titles. And if you need someone else to name some pretty anime boys who're not gay or trans because you can't do it urself then u obviously haven't watched enough animes |
Stop being a pain; I can't remember ALL of their names! Why aren't anime and manga titles good enough for you? Kei, Jakotsu, Jun, Maimai, Maora, Nagihiko, Ritsu...off the top of my head I guess... And if you need someone else to name some pretty anime boys who're not gay or trans because you can't do it urself then u obviously haven't watched enough anime Why do you think this is ONLY about "being pretty?" I'm talking about effeminate (it's different) guys who act like girls...possibly dress like them as well. I mean MOST anime guys are "pretty" to look at...lol but not 'effeminate'. For example, ALL the boys from Akatsuki No Yona are freaking gorgeous...but they're not girly in the least bit. |
ChiibiMar 6, 2020 8:41 PM
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Chiibi said: not all girly guy dress like girls though?? like Mitsuba. you said he's girly. but is he dressed like a girl? no! he's wearing a boy's costume! the only thing that's girly about him is his posture, and the way he has long sleeves that lots of cutesy anime girls have. Yes, Mitsuba is effeminate, but he is not "acting like girls" or "dressed like girls".Stop being a pain; I can't remember ALL of their names! Why aren't anime and manga titles good enough for you? Kei, Jakotsu, Jun, Maimai, Maora, Nagihiko, Ritsu...off the top of my head I guess... And if you need someone else to name some pretty anime boys who're not gay or trans because you can't do it urself then u obviously haven't watched enough anime Why do you think this is ONLY about "being pretty?" I'm talking about effeminate (it's different) guys who act like girls...possibly dress like them as well. I mean MOST anime guys are "pretty" to look at...lol but not 'effeminate'. For example, ALL the boys from Akatsuki No Yona are freaking gorgeous...but they're not girly in the least bit. And that's just how argument works. If you want to be convincing you'll need precise evidence to support your claim. Don't give vague titles and have the other person searching for your proofs themselves. That's not how it works. |
ttcchen said: not all girly guy dress like girls though?? like Mitsuba. you said he's girly. but is he dressed like a girl? He wears a pink jacket, has pink hair, and has said hair tied in a high ponytail. Close enough because that's girly as f*ck. I thought he WAS a girl until it was made clear that he wasn't. And that's just how argument works. If you want to be convincing you'll need precise evidence to support your claim. Don't give vague titles and have the other person searching for your proofs themselves. That's not how it works I gave you character names AND anime titles. I'm not doing anything more. In fact, I'm done with this idiotic "conversation". |
ChiibiMar 7, 2020 3:22 PM
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Chiibi said: ttcchen said: not all girly guy dress like girls though?? like Mitsuba. you said he's girly. but is he dressed like a girl? He wears a pink jacket, has pink hair, and has said hair tied in a high ponytail. Close enough because that's girly as f*ck. I thought he WAS a girl until it was made clear that he wasn't. And that's just how argument works. If you want to be convincing you'll need precise evidence to support your claim. Don't give vague titles and have the other person searching for your proofs themselves. That's not how it works I gave you character names AND anime titles. I'm not doing anything more. In fact, I'm done with this idiotic "conversation". you gave me a bunch of randomass anime titles then in the next reply a bunch of randomass characters how the hell am i supposed to know who is who what's wrong with boys wearing pink? Boruto wears pink, and is he girly? fuck no! there are tons of NOT-girly anime guys with pink hair (like Saiki, Natsu, Shima Renzou...) and that doesn't make them girly. Same with the high ponytail. i can name dozens of not girly guy with high ponytails off of the top of my head, like Yatogami, Hyakkimaru, Shikamaru, Abarai Renji, Yato... so what if Mitsuba prefers pink and high ponytails? That doesn't make him girly. It's a person's mannerism and posture that makes them girly. And back to my original point. just cause he's girly doesn't mean he's gay or trans or is crossdressing and whatnot. |
ttcchen said: And back to my original point. just cause he's girly doesn't mean he's gay or trans or is crossdressing and whatnot. I think he's gay not only from how he is designed and his traits but how he acts toward Kou as well. And so do other people who follow this series. Deal with it. |
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| Dangerous ghost xD... its look like cute ghost |
| That was fucked up how they killed a gay kid just cuz he was gay/femme/trans. I guess you have to take representation where you can get it. But wow Japan is old fashioned. Killing off the minority/LGBT character is so old hat. I mean he was crying over him so much you could ship it, which is some consolidation. It's just so damn tragic. Unless you kill a straight/normie character now I'll be upset. |
| Mitsuba... Really liked him. Sad he couldn't be saved. This episode was so good, despite the emotional pain i felt |
| Wow, a really dark and sad episode this time. Didn't expect that... It brought me to tears. :( |
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| Ok, that was sad. I thought Kou would have a ghost friend until the end of the show but Mitsuba disappearing completely was shocking. I was thinking he would somehow be able to come back Yep, I would have liked that the buildup was longer but nvm. Tsukasa is a true evil version of Amane, we know how he gives wishes. It was also interesting that the evil brother was killed by his brother, when I thought it was the other way around. Pretty good episode 4/5 |
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| I take back my words from the previous episode-- Mitsuba is best boi, he's just so wholesome and adorable. It's such a shame he got a donut from Yugi. Looks like Araki isn't the only manga author to give donuts to their characters LOL. |
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| Hanako, I hope you have no regrets. I hope you don't want to disappear :< |
| Its my favorite episode so far, I can feel the emotions overflow and I liked it, and Kou being sweet and sincere to Mitsuba is just.. hng. |
| Rest In Peace mitsuba. Feels bad man |
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| Besides him being a bit rude, Mitsuba was actually a pretty sweet guy with a simple wish, that was pretty sad there... |
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| Nene and Hanako's fate might be foreseen in this episode. And that's just too sad.😕 |
 She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did! |
| So they finally tackled the subject of dead and how it's the end with no future. I personally liked how they depicted it and happy we won't be seeing Mitsuba anymore. |
 「 To other people, I might not have changed at all, but I feel like I was able to change... 」 |
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